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01-01-2008, 05:51 PM
Hey PIC's,

:welcome: to 2008! :celebrate::celebrate:

I took the proverbial bull by the horns and here's our 2008 thread! I'm also copying the last few posts from the 2007 thread to start us. I hope it's not going to look to confusing.
Let's have a great OP (day, month) and Year Ladies!!!! :grouphug:


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12/29/2007, 12:09am

Hi everyone! I hope you all had a good holiday. I've been hiding from the scale. I'm afraid with not exercising because of my elbow and holiday eating I've been packing on the pounds.

I have about 3 more weeks of healing but it is a lot better. I had my first day back at work yesterday.

Valerie Joy
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12-30-2007, 04:25 AM (
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: southern MD

hey val glad to hear u are feeling better!

Petra my parents also lost their Ashley just before christmas, her neck was swollen and pressing on her windpipe, we think a salaviary gland problem, she was having difficulty breathing.. so they took her to the 24 hour vet hospital that is over an hour away ( we are rural so no vets are open on sunday nor do they take emergencys) the vet promised all kinds of treatment.. trach tube etc

all the did was run the bill up to $3,000 dollars and never gave her any treatment just lots of expensive tests... I later found out in a local forum that this is standard business for them...There must be some type of agency that you can report veterianry malpractice to isnt there? plus now we have been waiting 2 weeks for her remains. what a bunch of shysters...

I took my mom yesterday to the rescue adoption, but she said she really isnt ready yet... she saw a dog that she liked but the people ahead of her adopted that one.

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12-30-2007, 07:30 PM iwmonn ( (

Hey PIC's,

Val, good to hear you're healing. Too bad it takes so darn long.

Curly, That's a sad story about your parents pet. It really does suck that someone can take advantage of us like that. It's the main reason I have Lee do the vet visits. He loves the animals as much as I do- but he is realistic re: finances and WILL ask the questions AND draw the line if it's getting to be excessive. Anyway, I hope they get their pet back soon!

My weight is doing ok... still not in the 20's lol. But my high is now what my low was for a long time. I'm having terrible heartburn these days. Really bad. I think it's from the Byetta but I don't want to tell my dr cuz I don't want to go off of it (and I can't afford any more meds). Actually I'm about to ask for the next level dose. I've been taking otc rantidine.

Christmas was nice. I missed working, and had to run to the store for bread heheehe. I made a small turkey and actually have been enjoying the white meat lmao.... I usually don't like it ;) We headed to Santa Rosa the day after... ackkkkkkk the crowds!!!!!!!!!!!! I have NY day off- plans are to kick back and watch some college football. We MIGHT try staying up until Midnight (west coast time) this year. PARTY ON GIRLS!

Hope you all have a wonderful new year!!!!! We'll be seeing you soon I hope.

Love Dee~
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1/1/2008 06:30 AM
petra65 ( (

Hi ladies. I went home for a week for Christmas which was really nice. I got to see a lot of relatives I hadn't seen for awhile. It's also nice to be home with Kobe again. I met one dog already but she had obvious fear aggression and that was a red flag. I have decided I want a german shepherd and applied to a shepherd rescue in Alabama. It is about 3.5 hours away but it appears to be the one nearest me with the most dogs. There is actually one in new orleans but they only have a couple dogs and recently most of their dogs have not been compatible with other dogs which sort of defeats the purpose. This may take a while longer but I should end up with a dog I'm happy with. Also, I'm planning to do some nursing home work with my job and I'm hoping this new job will have the potential to be a therapy dog and I might be able to take it to work which would be great. Val-yes you can report vets. They have to get a license just like doctors so you can report them to the state medical board. I think I have not run into that problem because I am a doctor and I know enough to know when they are ripping me off.

Curly, congrats on the grades and the move. Sounds like you have gotten a lot settled in your life that has been up in the air for awhile.

I have been having a pretty intense conversation with myself about my weight. I can't seem to get myself back on track and I don't know what the problem is. I know what is required. I now have a job I like so I can't blame it on the stress of the job. I also now have the time so I can't even say it is that I am too busy. The only thing I can blame it on is laziness or an unwillingness to give up my addiction. I'm not sure which. Neither are things I like to admit about myself. I've contemplated going back to weight watchers even though there are things about that program I don't like simply because I think the structure might be good. Anyone with suggestions on how to slap myself out of this, I'm ready to listen.

Who is going to start the 2008 thread this year? Hopefully we'll attract some more people if we are more consistent in posting and also all working our respective programs.
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1/1/2008, 11:54 AM iwmonn ( (


One of my clerks' dog had puppies, ready to go last week. Ohhhh, I want one soooo bad lol. She owns both the parents, papered German Shepard and a papered Husky (i think).. She plays really rotten pool tho- emailed me pics yesterday. They are so adorable, but gonna be big. I made sure to show them to Lee ;). I know her next step will be to bring one to work. I want one but in my head I know it's still not the right time. I won't tie a dog up (especially since we have 2 wooded acres he could run it). We need to fence one last section of our yard before I get serious about a puppy so he can't get on the road. Also, Sam- our skittish Siamese has started to come in the house ( to eat and sleep again, tho he still runs at the sight of Lee (?????). He loves me *G*

Petra~ Glad you had a good visit. I think using a dog as a therapy tool is a great idea! Could Kobe be trained too?

Well, I'm having a break from housework. Time to get my head back into the oven.

Let's get together soon Girls!


01-01-2008, 06:19 PM
hi again PIC's,

So I'm in complete agreement with Petra regarding the need to post more regularly here. To hopefully get some new members, but also to make myself accountable again.

My goal will be to make some sort of mention of my program, something to do with my journey or at the very least I think I'll keep my ticker posted. I love that you have become my friends, and that I can talk of personal, fun, stressful matters but It has become a habit for me to ignore why I originally found this place by talking of puppies and work instead of what I had for dinner, etc.....

Okies, offa my personal soapbox now.

here's to you Ladies, my friends.... my Partners in Crime ;)


01-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Thanks for starting the new thread. You may need to send a message to Suzanne to ask her to archive the old one. That is what I did last year.

I think I accomplished an amazing dietary feat today. I managed to eat 58 grams of fiber! I think I may be sorry. I also did well in terms of staying on my program today. I have borderline high blood pressure and cholesterol now which should be enough to motivate me. I know if I just lose about 25 lbs it will solve that problem and I have done that several times already. Maybe I just need to make an appointment with a primary care doctor to yell at me or something.

Kobe is a wonderfully sweet labrador but too high strung to ever be a therapy dog. He would be bouncing all over the nursing home. I joke that he is part kangaroo. Buddy could have passed the test but I never did that with him.

01-02-2008, 08:53 PM
Okay ladies. How is everyone doing in the new year? I've had a good couple days. I'm praying I can keep this up. I even cooked myself a good dinner tonight-porkchop, zucchini with roasted red peppers and couscous. It is surprisingly cold here today and is supposed to be that way for a couple days.

I went to a nursing home today to see a couple patients. It turned out sort of oddly. We planned to go over and talk with them and set something up. Instead, they called me and asked me to come over and see some patients they were having difficulty with. I don't like the shotgun approach very well but we'll sort it out.

01-03-2008, 12:47 AM
Congrats on the menus Petra! Sounds yummy.

I had an ok yesterday. Had actually set myself up for a failure, buying chips, dips, salamie & cheese & crackers..... football snackie food - before I got re-inspired half way thru the day. I really didn't go too overboard on them at all. BUT we know chips have no place in my house- never ever lol.

I'm going to hit the store tomorrow and get more Calorie Countdown and start my protein drink in the morning again. I am using my little plate for dinner. Tonight a small bit of pot roast, 1/2 small red potato, carrots and 1 slice whole grain flax seed bread with earth balance spread.

We're looking at some nasty weather moving in tonight too. Hopefully the power will stay on. It seems to affect the sattellite though, so I may not be able to get on line.... we'll see.

(((((Val, Curly, Petra)))))))

Happy New Year to you!!!!!!!!!!

Something good is going to happen. I can feel it. :)

Valerie Joy
01-03-2008, 03:44 AM
Hi everyone!

I am making some changes for the new year.

I am back to exercising after a month off because of my broken arm. I'm giving myself a couple weeks before I step back on the scale because I know it's going to be bad. The combination of no exercise and holiday eating is bad.

So far so good I did exercise today and had 1800 calories.

01-03-2008, 11:26 AM
Hi PICs :wave:

I have been out of the game for the last year, but I am officially off the bench :D

Hope you have all been keeping well and had a happy holiday season.

01-03-2008, 06:59 PM
Welcome back Louie. Glad to see a familiar face. Are you done with school?

I have a challenge already tomorrow. I am going to lunch with a collegue and one of my bosses. We are going to meet a new psychiatrist in the community who isn't planning to work in the hospital to introduce ourselves so he will know who will be taking care of his patients if he has to have them admitted. I have to go to this event. I just pray we go somewhere I can find something decent to eat.

01-03-2008, 11:53 PM
Hi Petra, thanks for the welcome. It is great to see some familiar faces still here !

I am just about finished. I have one final report and presentation to do - now through to the end of May - and then I am all done... countdown is on.

I have been trying to do abit of catch-up - so sorry to hear about Buddy. I hope Kobe is doing well.

01-04-2008, 07:52 PM
I survived the luncheon today although the restaurant we went to was a disaster. They have a saying down here..."if it ain't fried, it ain't food." This was that kind of restaurant so there wasn't much healthy for me to pick from on the menu. I ended up with a chef's salad. I also have to give myself a pat on the back for something else. I stopped to buy gas today (at $3.08/gal but that's another story) and found a piece of candy in my purse. My first instict was to immediately put it in my mouth but I stopped and thought about it for a minute and threw it away instead. YEAH!

While I was at lunch, I got a call from the german shepherd rescue. They said they would call me again later but they had reviewed my application and wanted to talk to me about some dogs. :carrot: They normally do home visits too.

Hope everyone else is doing well with their respective programs.

01-05-2008, 11:41 AM
Good Morning :coffee:

I am up and at it early this morning, so taking the opportunity to catch up on reading some posts. Lots of good information sharing here !

Anyone have big plans for the weekend? I joined a new gym just after christmas, so going for a fitness assessment today. Not sure what it entails, but it will at least provide me with a starting point that I can measure my progress against.

Other than that it is date night - hubby is arranging tonights so not sure what we will do ?!?!

Anyhooo, I will carry on with my reading. Have a great saturday :D

01-05-2008, 06:51 PM
How's everyone doing today? I did some serious grocery shopping today so should be set for some good healthy meals this week. I also talked to the people from the german shepherd rescue so we are one step closer to getting a dog. They have to find someone to do a home visit. I'm hoping I'll have a dog by the end of the month.

01-07-2008, 09:56 AM
Where are all the PIC chicks? Hope you are all doing well. I had my home visit last evening from the rescue. They had to get someone from a different rescue group but it went well. One step closer to my new dog. I'm trying to get something going on the Sonoma board.

01-08-2008, 07:45 PM
Ladies, what happened to our effort to try to post more regularly?

I made that appointment with a primary care doctor. I have an appointment for the 17th. I think it will help to have someone to be accountable to. I'm going to try to get her to give me 3 months before making me go on blood pressure or cholesterol meds because I'm close on both of those right now and I know if I get this under control I can avoid both of those.

I got approved for my new dog. We are finalizing the date for me to go meet the dogs with Kobe and find the right match. Hope to see someone else posting here soon. It isn't much fun talking to myself.

01-09-2008, 01:41 PM
Hey PIC's,

Well, We had 3 1/2 days without power- (late Thurs nite thru monday afternoon), then yesterday was nasty weather still so I was without satellite most of the day. Kinda weird- when I was able to get online, I couldn't access 3FC.... anyways, we survived. We do fine here without power, but worse yet is that ":^: someone :^:" didn't run the pump after doing laundry on Wed before the storm so we also ran out of water. That sucked!! Lesson learned.

Eating wasn't great. I did easy top of the stove meals, using what I was able to salvage from the meat case at the store or getting a burger to go from the restauarant..... I was tired and cranky and working too much and got into the I don't care mode. I had a couple donuts, some chips & full fat full sugar cocoa..... and I forgot my meds several times. OH, and I smoked again- 2 packs throught the outtage, but only 3 cigs since Monday.... The good thing is the freezer and fridge are cleaned out now lol.
Fresh start for this house.

Petra~ I'm so excited for you getting a new dog. I grew up with a german shepard. He was a wonderful and very loyal dog. Good Luck. This storm made me realize I am not ready for the responsibility of a puppy right now.

LOL I can't remember gas being 3.08. WE got up to 4:00 gal here but it has dropped and stayed about 3.40 for a couple weeks now...

Louie~ Great to see you back! Wouldn't it be awesome if more of the oldtimer pic's popped in again!!

VAL~ Keep it up GF! you can be that exercise & diet woman again.

Curly~ hugssssssssss

01-09-2008, 11:32 PM
Hi :wave:

Back to work this week and it has been hectic. Doesn't take too long for you to feel like you didn't have a holiday at all :(

Petra, so happy to hear that you are getting a new dog.

3.5 days without power - I'm not sure I would know what to do with myself !

I'm heading out of town for a few days as I have a session for school on friday/saturday, so if I don't make it back before then have a great weekend !

01-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Good luck with school Louie. Hope your eating program is going well. It's easy to get off track when you start to get stressed out.

I'm on call again starting today for the next week. This is when I start to get stressed out so I'm hoping this will be different. I do have some healthy food in the house which is a good start.

01-11-2008, 12:22 PM
I hope it's going ok for you Petra. Good idea keeping OP foods around. Relax & breathe ;).

Isn't that the truth Louie? LOL sometimes I would prefer not to get any vacation at all rather than come back to what piles up on my desk!! Hope your trip is good!!! NAWWWWWWWWWWW ;)

Things are back to normal back here. My scale is broken tho..... I never thought I'd be a scale stressor, but I'm stressing cuz I can't keep a daily accountability. I'm going to talk to Dr. about going off of Byetta. My stomache hurts so bad these days it's just not worth it. But I still have a $200. pen I haven't even opened yet. *sigh*.... no miracle cure there. When will I ever learn?!?

Today will be on track for me~~~~~~

Hugsss D~

01-11-2008, 08:14 PM
Don't we all wish there were an easy way. That is my issue all the time Dee. I get stuck on the fact that this is so much darn hard work. I hope your weather is improving.

I'm on call this week and so far so good. No major disasters.

I keep asking Kobe what he wants his new dog to be like but he hasn't been much help so far. :lol:

Hope to hear from more of the PIC chicks soon.

01-12-2008, 10:27 AM
HI guys!

well a few more weeks of freedomand then the new semester starts... Dee I am wondering about ur tummy as last night I had a very bad experience, starting feeeling sick to my stomach & indigestion @ 4 pm yesterday .. then was introduced "HELLO LISA I AM YOUR GALLBLADDER... NOW CURL UP IN THE FETAL POSITION & JUST TRY TO BREATHE" omg... I have a very very high tolerance for pain but that was just tooooooo much, this was the second major attack the 1st time i wrote it off as a 24 hour bug ... but after researching I am pretty sure its Mr. Gallbladder.

looking back I can remember other mild symptoms thru the years but this has become a major issue now... I have a drs appointment next week but my family dr is just a country bumpkin dr... so hmm what type of specialist takes care of gallbladder? endocrinologist ?

Anyways.... after all that I think I better get on the stick and watch my food intake,, at this point I am pretty much afraid to eat anything.

Petra, I know u are looking for a purebred GS, just wanted to mention that I had a purebred german shepard and purebred lab mix once was the most awesome dog ever!

ok gonna get outside and take the "chai monster" for a walk since the sun is out and shining...

Valerie Joy
01-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Hi Everyone,

Dee I'm glad you survived without power. That must have been crazy.

Curly I had gallbladder (sludge) a few years ago and my doctor suggested I have it out. Instead I changed my eatting habbits and it seems to clear up on it's own. I haven't had another mri but I it just feels better. It is hanging over my head that it could flare up at anytime.

I hope you're feeling better soon.

I gained 4 pounds over the last month which I wasn't surprised about. After I broke my arm I couldn't exercise at all for the month. The good news is after exercising last week I lost one pound. So my ticker is only going up 3 more pounds. :?:

01-13-2008, 09:15 PM
Curly, its a gastroenterologist that takes care of gallbladders but if you need it out you need a surgeon. A good internist should be able to order the needed tests to confirm that is what the problem is.

I'm driving to AL next weekend to look at dogs. There are enough to choose from that I should be able to find a suitable match. I keep telling Kobe to "think German Shepherd" LOL.

01-14-2008, 08:04 AM
can u speak german Petra? lol just kidding!

I have a drs appt on friday just with my GP, guess i will go from there...

Going now to pack my gym stuff!

01-14-2008, 10:30 AM
Curly-I'll give you a hint. He should order an ultrasound. If that doesn't happen, maybe you should go see another doctor.

I have my appointment with my new primary care doctor on Thurs. I need someone to hold my feet to the fire about losing weight so I don't end up on blood pressure and cholesterol meds. Also, I'm going deaf (for real) and need to have my hearing retested. This started in PA but I think is getting worse. I have not heard my pager go off a few times this week. I may need a hearing aide at this point.

01-14-2008, 08:20 PM
Well went to the grocery store tonight and got my supplies for healthy lunches, since my lunches lately seem to be my down fall....

I am gonna see about setting an appointment with a specialist. I am sure I will get blasted when I go to the GP friday... since my weight has continued to go up... well the chai monster is whining so that can only mean one thing... brrrr its cold out there too!

01-15-2008, 09:09 PM
Hey PIC's,

I have been trying to get on the site but I keep getting hung up. It's been happening a lot lately. 3FC is the only site I have this problem with. Anyone else???

So.... I hope your feeling better Curly. I've had 3 other ppl tell me I should check out the gall bladder- based on where this pain is. I've been dx with gerd for years, and a side effect of byetta is acid so I've just been chalking it up to that. But it's really getting unbearable, and I'm noticing it has lots to do with what and how I'm eating..... Thinking about the cost of a specialist and diagnostics tests isn't helping either lol... we'll see what happens. I'm curious to hear what's up with you!

Petra~ That's so exciting. I want a dog soooooo bad. My friend has 3 puppies left. Thank goodness Lee and I have not seen them at the same time. Right now I can say no cuz he would kill me and he can say the same. We're both suckers for a cute animal tho and if we ever got caught together we'd wind up taking one lol. There is just enough sense in each of us to know we are not ready for a dog at this time. Does Kobe get to go with you to see how he and the new one interact?

Val~ I was inconvenienced by our power outtage, but our weather was next to nothing compared to other parts of the world. I try to look at it as an adventure lol. Glad to hear you're back in the saddle again gf. you'll have those 4 lbs + gone in no time I bet!!

I'm still staying steady. I fluctuate each morning from 233-234.5.... seldom above or below that. I've had a real bad week for sweets. I have eaten some sort of candy every day. Today I did buy a sugar free chocolate bar that I'm savoring and just having little pieces of. I plan to make it last four days.

You all enjoy your eve/day and i'll get back when I can again.

Hugssssss Dee~

01-16-2008, 10:06 AM
I have trouble getting on this site too. I think the server gets overloaded. Just a Jan. thing I think with all the new people.

Yes, I get to take Kobe with me Sat. It's a long car ride. 3.5 hours and he isn't the greatest in the car. I'm going to put his crate in the car so maybe it will go a little better.

Val-glad to hear you are feeling well enough to exercise again. You go girl! You were the exercise goddess.

I got a call from a new nursing home yesterday. I'm going to visit them on Tues to set up my arrangements with them. Things seem to be getting settled. I'll have to find dog school soon too. Talk to you all later.

01-16-2008, 04:45 PM
awwww poor kobe. I don't do well on long trips (winding coast roads), so I guess I can relate to him hehehe. I so hope you find the dog you both need.

I hadn't thought of the overloaded thing. I asked in another thread also and suzanne mentioned 3fc was just listed in another magazine so the hits are a lot higher. It's just so frustrating :shrug:

Oh..... about the chocolate bar yesterday? I just have 2 words: Sugar Alcohol. I forgot about that. I ate just enough to make myself uncomfortable all night. LOL.

I'm sticking on plan (whatever that may be) pretty well. Happy with the way I'm feeling right now.

Does anyone read First Magazine? There is an article about weight loss using soy AND whey protein. It's interesting.

have great days girls!!!!! :grouphug:

01-16-2008, 10:10 PM
I was a big believer in the "whey protein" .. it works... its pricey but good! I should go get some! Ive been doing real well staying OP cuz I really dont want to go through another one of those GB attacks anytime soon... hopefully I can quiet it down with diet..

didnt make it to work out yesterday... instead had go go to the dentist and give him all my money I had saved to buy propane (for heat) ... sigh...
$500.00 for a @##$$%%^^ crown! but he said I was very lucky that the tooth did not abcess ... lost a part of my filling and there was a gulley beyond the small crack in the tooth... yep I am a tooth grinder.. at night and when i stress.. I said great as if i didnt have enough to stress about .. now I will be grinding cuz of the expensive crown I had to get..........

anyways.. now that I am broke... I cant afford any junk food hahahaha!

01-17-2008, 08:05 PM
I had my first visit with my new primary care doctor today. She did my pre-employment physical for this job but it took her a few minutes to remember that I'm a doc too. She gave me 4-6 mon. to lose about 20 lbs to get my blood pressure and cholesterol down or else I have to go on meds. My blood pressure was 140/90 today so I don't have much room to play with. She said she'd be my drill sargent, lol.

I had a really stressful day today at work and I'm really looking forward to Sat. I got the second crate out and Buddy's food dish. Kobe has been sniffing around. Talk to you all later.

01-18-2008, 09:52 AM
hey lets all join in with Petra. and vow to lose 20 lbs in 4 months thats our goal.. not the 30, 40 or 50 we really wanna lose.... but just 20 for now... we can do it! we have the power!

ya know I was looking through my vast collection of diet books "dont eat fat", "eat fat dont eat carbs" yadda yadda yadda... and I think in a nutshell it all boils down to TIME.. ya gotta take the time to prepare and plan your meals.. most of us falter when we are in a situation where we are hungryand we want something to eat..... food... anything.. whatever is there.. so I think what we really need to do is plan ahead and have good choices available...

for me the big thing has been being lazy & broke and a cheeseburger at McD's is like 99 cents I can grab a piece of fried chicken for 1.98

but I had an epiphany yesterday...
as I sat eating my lunch of a granny smith apple,
a lovely sandwich of turkey,
fancy baby lettuce,
sugar free bread & butter pickles,
brown mustard and
tomato... on 2 very thin slices of whole wheat multi grain bread
then topped it off with a sugar free jello cup...

my thought was ... man that tasted good!

cant say that for my previous lunch choice... the difference was that I had to take the time the night before and make the sammich...pack my lunch

ok ... so thats 20 lbs (or more) in 4 months the challenge is on..... haha
lets call it the 20 for now! challenge :cheer:

01-19-2008, 09:25 PM
Count me in!!! It sounds so doable!

Your sandwich sounds yummy Curly. Tell me more about the pickles. I have to know about the pickels LOL. What is the brand. I love bread & butter pickels!

01-20-2008, 08:29 AM
aww i am a pickle lover also! especially the bread & butter pickles so I was really happy to find the sugar free ones that are sliced lengthwise... umm vlassic makes them as well as Mt. olive

I usually get the bag of salad- baby greens to use on my sandwiches instead of regular iceberg lettuce..

oh an my trip to the dr (tho his scale is usally higher than mine) I will be adjusting my ticker up! :yikes:

so thats a total of 13 lbs I have packed back on... :yikes:

01-21-2008, 08:26 PM
okay, so now I have some support to help me with this?

You are right Curly-it's the time committment. Losing weight is hard work and time consuming.

I got my new baby yesterday. You won't believe this although you may have seen it on the news. It got postponed on Sat because it snowed!! It didn't snow this far south but I went to Montgomery, AL to get my dog and it snowed in Montgomery. She is about 2 years old and has longer hair than the typical german shepherd so she almost looks like a Collie. She and Kobe seem to like each other. They aren't in love but there have been no spats and they are sharing pretty well. I'm not sure how to attach pictures or I would. Maybe Curly the graphics genius can help me with that. Oh, BTW, her name is Tammy.

01-21-2008, 10:40 PM
awwww thats so neat Petra! lol did u tell them that u are no stranger to snow? lol I am sure that most everything came to a halt with snow there tho!

back to work tomorrow... I just had a lazy weekend.. I have to go thursday for a sonogram of my gall bladder... :yikes: at 7 am oh well get it over with early...

dr has me on a bland low fat diet... I had cereal for dinner yesterday... wow I think its been about 2 years since I have eaten cereal.. Special K...

yep gotta get some weight off cuz none of my skirts will button :lol:

01-21-2008, 11:14 PM
Wonderful news Petra! It never dawned on my you might get a female lol. It's great she and kobe are getting along. Our weather is goofy here too. Gorgeous day Saturday, but the fog rolled in evening.... today snow was falling about 30 miles south.

Curly~ I love cereal. But mostly just cheerios lol. I'll never understand the people who put sugar on their cereal tho....

Yep, this is extremely a time consuming venture. I have yet to make that whole commitment which is why I'm probably where I am. However, thinking about it just one meal at a time- ie making that sammie for lunch- it isn't so overbearing. I'm hovering between 232.5-233.5 these days. Tomorrow is weigh-in for me so I'm crossing my fingers and toes ;)

Have fun ladies.... ttfn

01-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Tuesday Morning! Drumroll Please.................... 232.5

I'm thinking I may make weigh in day on a work day. I way slept in today, then had coffee, and took my pills before I weighed. On a work day, it's up and into the bathroom, weigh- then coffee etc... OK so it's probably a bit nit picky but we know every single ounce counts when it comes to moving that ticker lol.

I know I definately did way to much salt yesterday. Salted Peanuts are not my friend ;) Tuna casserole is also probably not the best choice either. Tho I did make a lofat version of it with no chips on top.

OH!!!! I'm finally getting a treadmill. Now NO MORE EXCUSES. I'll be getting it in the next couple days. Ths one is a for sure. I just hope it's in the condition I've been told it's in.

Ya'll have a great day!
:grouphug: Dee~

01-22-2008, 08:51 PM
Wow, sounds like some serious people here. I've been really distracted with my new dog and I need to get refocused. I haven't been grocery shopping yet this week. Hopefully in the next day or two. Good luck with your sonogram Curly. I'm attempting to attach a photo of the new girl.

01-22-2008, 10:14 PM
Petra.... She is beautiful!!

How is she adjusting? Is Kobe enjoying having her around yet?

01-23-2008, 06:41 AM
She's very pretty Petra!

:cheer: way to go Dee 1 down 19 to go! I am thinking I will make saturday my weigh in day..

:cheer: Petra I see your ticker is heading down also... :cheer:

01-23-2008, 07:51 PM
I got my treadmill! :tread:

it's not as sturdy as some, but it works :) LOL When Kelsea told me she'd only used it 15 times I thought wowwwwww cool. She didn't mention that her kids used it for a trampoline:eek: it probably needs some routine maintenance and the rails on the side (for your feet if need to jump off) are cracked in a few places but I'm not complaining!!! It was free and I'm excited. Hehehe I tried to get fast, pushed it to 6.5 and thought I was gonna biff a faceplant right then and there! I'll be doing a nice walking speed from now on.

Thanks for the mentioning the idea of an attainable goal Petra, and thanks for the push to follow the idea Curly. I feel like the 20 For Now challenge woke me up again.

Oh, my stomach has been much better. Maybe it's my diet, maybe not. I don't know but I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing lol. But, I'm upping to 10mcg on the Byetta when I get my next Rx.

How you doing out there Val????? :hug:

:grouphug: Ciao Ladies, Hope you're all well!

01-24-2008, 09:33 PM
hi guys!

well I am proud of myself.. wanted so badly to go out for lunch but stayed with my turkey sammy.

had my sonogram today... tried to get the lady doing it to give me a hint but no luck... gonna have to wait till next thursday when i go back to the gp.

tho i think when just the pressure of the sonogram paddle makes ya hurt thats a pretty good indicator that something just aint right...

01-26-2008, 02:18 PM
I finally went shopping and have had a few healthy meals in a row. I cooked a pot of soup today so I'll have some take to work lunches for the week. I also got some easy stuff like progresso microwave soups and those yogurt snack cups.

We've had some really disgusting weather. Hope it clears up soon. My new dog has been testing the boundaries here which is pretty normal but overall I'm happy with her. I think once she gets adjusted and trained she will be a great dog. She has finally started to show some interest in playing with Kobe.

curly-we call that a sonographic murphy's sign. It's a pretty good indication that you have stones or at least sludge.

01-27-2008, 09:18 AM
no wonder I have no energy I might be full of sludge!

01-27-2008, 07:11 PM
LOL curly-you can have sludge in your gallbladder that gives you symptoms.

01-28-2008, 08:19 AM
well I was 250 on the doctors beam scale, but 252 on my digital scale,, today I am 251 on my scale :cheer:

01-30-2008, 01:22 AM
Yayyyyy Curly!

I did the Dr. today too. I don't like the numbers on their scale lol..... clothes and all BUT it was 7 down from my checkup 2 months ago. Also glucose down, total cholesterol down, bad cholesterol down. I need to bring my good cholesterol up though. It was a motivating appointment.

My official weigh in scale in my own bathroom said 230.0 this morning!!!!

I've been walking on my treadmill. OMG girls, 20 min and I feel dead hehehehee... give me time~~ I'll be a walkin' fool.

It's been a tough week. Cold (for here).. we even had a teeny little snow flurry yesterdey morning. Lost power on Saturday again. Only 15 hours this time. Oh the wind was sooooo loud.

:grouphug: ttyl Ladies!!!! D~

01-30-2008, 07:39 AM
wow those are awesome results!!! way to go Dee! You are doing a great job!!!!

01-31-2008, 08:22 PM
well dr says the report shows no gall stones no thicking of the gall bladder, but my liver is enlarged... hmmm i ask why would my liver be enlarged? dr says cuz you are overweight...

hmmm no do u drink? have u been exposed to hepatitis? umm possibly anemic? nope automatically cuz I am fat??? dam drs

02-01-2008, 12:23 PM
Good news (i think) curly! no gall stones. I'm not sure what it means to have the enlarged liver though.

I'm plugging along here. Happy with my scale these days ;). Doing the treadmill, but still not as much as I'd like to. I'll get there! Bad news is I finally have to admit I've started smoking again :(. Is it just coincidental that I started losing a bit at the same time I started again? Hopefully I can stop as easily as I did last time when I decide it's time. Heh, I already know I won't be able to or I wouldn't be smoking now.

How you all doing weather-wise? I laugh at myself here, whining about a lil chilly wet skies. Then I read about some of the other areas of the country. I guess we don't have it so bad here lol.

Val~ where are you GF?????? Let us know how things are going for you.

Petra~ I bet you're keeping busy with Kobe and Tammy! Hopefully they're getting along well and she's making a quick adjustment.

LisaWY & Louie~ How are you doing ok, op and everything. Shoot us a quick update too.

I love to hear from old PIC's!!!


Valerie Joy
02-03-2008, 04:21 AM
Hi Everyone!

Sorry for not being much recently. I'm just getting over a really bad cold and unfortunately not exercising for another week caused me to gain another 2 pounds. It's so frustrating but I'm really struggling.

02-03-2008, 12:21 PM
Curly, I'm really surprised you don't have stones. Yes, you can get an enlarged liver from fatty infiltration of your liver. It is most common in alcoholics but also in people who are overweight.

Dee-you are doing great. I'm a little concerned to hear about the smoking though. Not a good trade off.

Val-hope you feel better soon. You certainly have had a run of bad luck lately.

My new dog has been challenging. It's been several years since I have had an untrained dog in my house that I really can't trust. I think she may have been an outside dog in her previous life. She ate a frog this week which she then threw up in the middle of the night and I'm not sure she was completely housebroken either so that has been another major challenge. Good thing I have a steam cleaner.

I've also not been so compliant with my diet either. I'm wondering if Sonoma is too permissive and that is why I'm having such a hard time sticking to it. Is that crazy? I plan to go grocery shopping again today and do some cooking so I'll have some left overs for this week. I go on call on Thurs so I like to have healthy food in the house and left overs ready so I don't have to worry about what I'm going to eat.

02-04-2008, 02:29 PM
Heya Val :hug: Gotta get that Airborne down ya ;). Sorry to hear you've been feeling icky. I've missed hearing from you. I hope you're up and about soon. How's the arm?

Petra~ I"m not real happy about the smoking either. It's like I just was going to have a couple during the power outage here- I've done it several times throughout the 3 or 4 years since I stopped- I could have 1 cigarette then not think twice about not having another for months. This time the absolute addiction has me again. I'm going to make a day to stop soon. As I said, I've been dropping the pounds. But you're right and I know it. Not a good trade off. I've also upped the Byetta. I'm not sure if I'm trying to come down with something (as there is something really nasty going around here), or if it's the meds; but I am soooo not hungry and feeling like I have to force myself to eat... lol never thought that would happen!

Sounds like you definately do have your hands full with Tammy. The visual I got with the frog pretty gross LOL. You can imagine with 5 cats I get some pretty icky hairballs and the occasional gift of a mouse or bird upon wakeup- but a frog- ACKKKKKK.... good luck and keep up the work with her. You know she'll be well worth it!

Curly~ Howzya feeling? Chin up GF!

:cheer::cheer: for us all :)


02-05-2008, 01:27 PM
Here we are at Tuesday again. 227.5!!!!!!

Not much else to say this morning. Election day here in Sunny California. They're pre-empting The Biggest Loser for election results. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I know it's important, but dang.... in this day of cable and satellite- FOX, MSNBC, CNN and all those other news channels you'ld think they could leave the regular ol' broadcasting stations alone. Or at lest just use tickers along the bottom of the screen.

whew! Glad I got that offa my chest lmao.

You Ladies have a wonderful day.


02-07-2008, 06:30 AM
thats super Dee!!! :cheer: you are doing great 6 down!!!! Ive gotten my eating back under control now I just have to get the exercise going again!

Don't give up Val I am struggling along with ya!

Petra: my mom & dad adopted a dog on sunday she is really sweet 1 yr old and obedience trained a lab of course... lol my dad thinks labs are the only type of dog,, the rescue groups claims she is pure lab .. but she points like a pointer so we think she may be mixed with pointer. shes a really good girl

Valerie Joy
02-10-2008, 03:12 AM
I'm not giving up. It is fustrating to see my weight creeping back up but I was thinking if I never lost that weight in the first place and also put on 20 pounds a year (that was my going rate) for the last 3 years I would be over 300 pounds now.

So the good news is I'm still trying to be healthy! Summer will be easier. No ice to slip on.. less colds to be caught and I can start walking outside again!

02-10-2008, 10:15 AM
no change this week.. I am with u Val cant wait for spring! My thoughts this morning.. amazing the difference 15 lbs can make in the way that you feel I feel like a slow slug! My psychology professor expects us to devote 12 hours per week to the class.. I am really thinking hard about this decision to go back to school.. I think my time could be better spent improving my health then sitting on my backside studying...... hmmm

02-10-2008, 10:46 AM
Curly-you won't be sorry you went back to school. I look at it this way. I have a lot of student loans that will be hanging over my head for many, many years. They can take away my car, they can take away my house, but they can never take away my education.

Val-sorry to hear you are struggling but I know how you feel. I'm having a similar problem. Although, I think I am slowly getting to the bottom of it.

I have come to the conclusion that Sonoma may be too permissive-meaning, it allows me to eat too many things. There is no question that I did best on my low carb diet. Although I am absolutely convinced of the health benefits of mediterranean eating, it doesn't do any good if I can't stick to the program. Mary's first commandent of dieting: the best diet for you is the one you can stick to for life. I've only been able to stick to this for a couple weeks at a time. I stayed on my low carb diet for well over a year. My parents are coming to visit next week so this is not a good time to start a new eating program. As you guys know, I'm a big fan of Four Corners. I think it is probably the most healthy low carb diet out there (unless there is a new one I don't know about). I think that is what I'm going to go with when my parents leave. I can also start moving in that direction between now and then.

02-10-2008, 09:43 PM
I have to agree Petra, the weight just fell off with the low carb.. was cleanning out some junk from boxes and the book "protein power" dropped on my foot.. hmmm maybe thats a sign from above?

02-11-2008, 10:53 AM
LOL Curly. When I went shopping yesterday, I thought low carb.

02-12-2008, 12:21 PM
Goooooood Morning Ladies,

I've thought low carb too, but I don't think it's something I could continue for life- Maybe in the future. Because I know it's important for controlling my blood sugars. I have a copy of the Four Corners that Petra is talking about if anyone would like it, I'd be happy to pass it on to one of you if you need it. Let me know. I actually loved the book, but between Lee & I both being so picky, I can hardly use the recipes in it. :shrug:

We're doing a major changeover of the backoffice and front end computer systems at work right now. Will go live tomorrow. I've been doing lots of hours this week. I'm supposed to have today offf, but already delt with 3 phone calls from the store so far lol...... Ahhhhhhhhhh management hehehehe.

Anyway, new meds are doing ok. Not much pain in my stomach at all. I wonder if I build up a tolerance, or if the weight lost so far has anything to do with it. I can sure tell that I'm not working out tho- I'm about the same weight I was when I stalled before, but having a little trouble getting the old (used to be loose-ish) pants buttoned. Gonna try to do some yard work today. Heavy duty brush dragging kinda work... ick ;)

Mary- Have a wonderful visit with your family. I get to go to Seattle in August Yayyyyyyyyyy...

Val- Hope your weather is picking up there. It's always so nice when the cold & flue and elbow reaking weather is over!

Curly~I bet school and work and working on your health all at once is hard, but it will be so well worth it for you in the long run. Can you cut down on your classes for a while? I know when I 'took a break from school' it was all over. It was just to easy to keep procrastinating going back until I had to admit I wasn't going to go back. Now I regret it..........

You all have a nice day today or whatever it is when you read this- hope you're having the gorgeous blue skies I have this morning!


02-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Dee-I wish we were having your blue skies too. We have been under a tornado watch. One thing I don't like about living down here is tornadoes. They completely freak me out. I even have a NOAA weather radio.

You know you didn't have to use the recipes in the book. You could find your own that just met the goals of the diet or as close as possible but if low carb isn't for you, it isn't for you.

I have to say, these past few days trying to eat lower carb has felt much more comfortable. I don't know if it is just familiarity or if it just agrees with me better. I'll have to see how I'm doing after a couple weeks.

02-12-2008, 10:11 PM
I dont know dee .. I think Low carb might be what will get ya past that hurdle.. give it a shot , you dont have to go super low, OR focus on good carbs whole wheat instead of white, whole wheat pasta etc..

Got my hair cut tonite, my hair stylist wanted to try something new that she thought would look really cute.. let me tell ya its super SHORT!!! but its cute..

I am sad today... my boss who i just adore is taking a job in another county :cry:

i am only taking 2 classes, but I have to stay at least 1/2 time to keep my student loans.. so I will press on...

yeah I notice that I feel better with low carb... I think I
may go back to the whey protein as well

its been insanely cold here 13 yesterday morning!

02-12-2008, 11:54 PM
thanks girls.... I've tried to do the low carb. Actually I tried almost no carb and it was ridiculously difficult. right now I am focusing strong on good carbs- Whole grains etc.... That, along with a huge loss of appetite from the meds seems to be working for the time being.

And Petra, lol I know I could probably easily make my own recipes or whatever. I guess (no, I know) that was my excuse. I just don't really want to go strictly low carb. Not to say I'm not watching my carbs because I am. Really.

*sniffl sniffl* I'm the only non-low-carber of us!

Curly~I've been doing protien drinks in the morning. I was doing whey, but found a good one that is whey, soy and casein. Fair priced at costco. It's EAS Premium Protien. I read an article in First magazine talked about you should do whey AND soy..... maybe that's helping too?!? I dunno.......

anyhooooo.... stay warm and dry PIC's!!!!


02-13-2008, 07:33 AM
well u are doing great Dee!!! :cheers:

02-14-2008, 09:59 AM
Kobe is teaching Tammy bad habits today. How to knock over trash cans!

I had a terrible day at work yesterday which unfortunately led to some bad eating but I am back on track today. I'm also off call as of this morning. YEAH! Really, call is not as bad here as it was in PA but it lasts for a whole week at a time. My parents should be here either Sat. or sun. Talk to you soon.

Valerie Joy
02-15-2008, 04:05 AM
I tried low carb and it didn't work for me. I just felt so tired on it. I need my carbs!

I've been trying to add fiber to my diet to increase feeling of fullness (to avoid overeating)

What do you all think of benefiber? I've been adding it to my water 3 times a day.

BTW I HAD to take off my winter ticker and avatar. I am so sick of winter. We're getting more snow today.

I'm thinking SPRING!

02-15-2008, 06:43 PM
I remember when I lived in PA, by Feb. I would be so sick of winter too.

I think the fiber idea is a good one.

Valerie Joy
02-19-2008, 02:30 AM
Hi PICS! I've been getting in my workouts. Mostly walk away the pounds 2 miles video.

It's so cold out. I don't know why I am always more hungry when it's freezing.

02-19-2008, 01:59 PM
Hiya Girls,

Tough week this time around. Staff has been sick so we've been shorthanded- I've been working lots of extra hours. Tooooo bad I'm salary now lol. My weight has fluctuated this week, but this being Tues. it's my official day. I didn't lose, but I didn't gain. I've been a bit wreckless in my choices of what I'm putting in my mouth. Using the lunch size plate has really helped me tho. OH..... I tried those steam bags Ziplock makes now. YUMMY. I've only used it for veggies at this point but they are so much better- and faster. Just a lil FYI for ya'll.

Yayyy Val!! Keep up the good work.

Hope things warm up for all you.

Love, Dee~

Valerie Joy
02-20-2008, 03:29 AM
Dee sorry to hear about all the staff being sick. It's going around here also. I'm just hoping I don't get sick again.

I want to walk outside so bad but it's all ice because the snow melted then refroze!

I can't wait for spring!

02-21-2008, 01:09 PM
I have eaten all kinds of junk this week with my parents being here. We had a good trip to Natchez. Beautiful antebellum mansions. We are having terrible weather again today. Glad to hear everyone else is doing well. When I was eating low carb, I was losing about 1 lb. a day. I know that won't hold up for long but it was a good start. Parents are planning to leave tomorrow so I should be able to get back on track.

02-24-2008, 12:03 AM
Thanks Val. The sick staff is about over... but short handed now cuz I had a guy stealing..... he had to be let go. *sigh* I'm taking Sunday off next week to go to a ham radio swap meet with lee. WooooHOOOOOOO heheheheh... I'm excited to meet all the ol guys he talks with every morning. it's gonna be a challenge tho because they lunch at a chinese buffet. They talk about it all the time and Lee says it is really good. problem: The only chinese food I like is all deep fried with sticky goooey sauce on it. I'm thinking of banking some calories for that day.

One of the girls at work got me a puppy!!!!!! lol.. I love it even if it is a stuffed one lmao..... it's a chocolate lab pupperweight!

Another storm is here today. Been raining heavy with some high winds but hopefully the December storm took most of the weak trees down already. We're crossing our fingers we keep power this time around.

The scale is looking good these days, but Tuesday's weigh in will tell the tale ;)

Petra~ How's it going now, back on your own? How did Tammy do with the company?

Val~ HOpe it warms up for you soon too. I'll never figure out how all of you handle such drastic weather!!!!!!!!

Hey Curly Gurly~ :wave: here's hoping you get some spare minutes for yourself!

:grouphug: Loveya PIC's

02-24-2008, 06:11 PM
hi guys!

must say that I have been cutting back, no more fast food lunches.. and I feel much better! Got myself a container of whey protein, and I have been alternating that for a meal each day... I am so excited I bought myself a washer & dryer yesterday!!! woo hoo

if you have ever schleped laundry to the laundromat.. you know the joy that I will be feeling when thursday comes and they deliver them... chai on the other hand wont be happy cuz that space in my pantry is his "nap nook"

cant wait till the time changes back and it warms up... the days just seem too short when it gets dark early must be a psychological thing that makes ya feel tired.. but lately I have been feeling that spark again...

hope everyone is doing well... haha we have an assignment in my biology class to write about nutritional supplements.. I was like oh yeah I am ready for that one! so guess i better go get that done!



02-25-2008, 07:01 PM
How about that Curly. I bought some whey protein today too.

You know that argument about calories in and calories out. I'm not sure that is the whole story with low carb. Certainly you can't eat 3000 calories a day and expect to lose weight but you can eat more calories without it slowing you down. Maybe not true for everyone but I have found it to be true for me.

02-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Where have all the PIC chicks gone?

I had a hideous day at work today but hopefully these won't happen very often. I didn't get off track with my food which was a little victory for me. Hope you are all doing well.

02-29-2008, 12:09 AM
:wave: I'm here!!!

Been busy.... been a bit off track. I need to stop this behavior NOW.... it's the same story every time. I'm beginning to do a bit of self sabatoge. I went shopping in the city yesterday. I didn't have Lee with me and was hungry. I was getting some :eek: KFC to take home for dinner and since it was a kfc/A&W combo place I had a cheesburger and ff and root beer for lunch. I (accidentaly HONEST) ordered a #1 instead of a #5 so wound up with a huge Double cheesburger. I ate the whole burger. I do give myself credit for throwing out most of the fries before I could eat them all up tho. I had a small binge on Monday too... some Fritos, 2 cookies and some ritz crackers with cream cheese and my yummmmmy homemade habanero jelly on them. Again, in hindsight I should not have done it, but I also realize it was a handful of Fritos- not the whole bag, 2 cookies-not the entire package and I'm sure toooo many crackers but still not pig-worthy. I know i'm somewhat rationalizing these events and need to move past them. Today it was 1/2 huge order of FF, and an entire 550 cal Toblerone Bar. WHY do I do this? I'm feeling good about myself and then I just undo everything...... anyways, no dinner tonight. Heh I fessed up to Lee rather than force myself to eat more food that I'm not even hungry for!! Other news..........

I go to Anaheim to the Natural Food Expo on the 13-16 of March. I'm going with the 3 owners of the store and one girl from their other store. I know we'll be eating out. I'm going to really watch my choices. yup yup yup!!!!

Petra~ :hug: hope your day tomorrow is better!!!!!! Good job staying on track!!!!! WooooHOOOOOO

03-01-2008, 10:14 PM
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I've been hanging out on the LC forum. I have to say, I'm sort of feeling like I crashed their party but for the most part they have been welcoming. It's a lot more active than it used to be. I remember a couple years ago, there wasn't much going on there. That's why I spent so much time on the protein power board, not to mention almost everyone here does atkins. I think I may be the only non-atkins person on the board.

I seem to have settled back into low carb pretty easily. I still don't have my carbs down to where I want them but I'm making progress. I also got some greek yogurt and kefir today.

03-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I went to visit the protein power board today-even though I'm not doing protein power exactly and they have inactivated my account. I can sign in but I can't post. I sent them a message asking them to fix it. Not sure how involved I want to get over there but I always felt more like I "fit" over there. People here sometimes get uncomfortable with my approach-even though I almost always mean well.

03-02-2008, 11:18 PM
What is there to be uncomfortable about? I don't get that lol. I have actually learned a lot from you; weather or not I actually put it to use myself, or if it's just knowledge I keep for possible future use. I just want you to know I love having you here!!!! :hug:

Valerie Joy
03-03-2008, 02:47 AM
Hi everyone!

I've been doing ok. Eating is not what it should be but I am still exercising everyday.

I can't wait for winter to be over. I just want to be able to get outside and walk!

03-03-2008, 10:00 AM
Dee-I think some people think I come off as a "know it all" or something like that. That isn't the intention but I think you know what I mean. The protein power board is more science/medicine based and people are genuinely happy to hear my perspective. There are a couple other people there with advanced science degrees so there is discussion on those topics.

My eating has definately improved but my scale hasn't moved yet. I recall this happened last time so I'm not going to freak out yet.

03-04-2008, 08:32 PM
I think I do know Mary. And again I say I love hearing your thoughts. Personally I find them informative and I respect them. I enjoy, and I learn from everyon's various thoughts and ideas here. We all have some sort of knowledge and/or approach that each of the others can take something from. We all support each other and sometimes we've used a tough love type of approach. :cheer: PIC's are wonderful :cheer:

heh.... sounds kinda sappy ;) but you all know what I mean........

Val~ It's so good to hear from you. Glad you're keeping up on the exercise. I can't seem to motivate myself to get on that darn treadmill on any regular basis at all. grrrrrrrrrrrr.

I haven't been to hungry lately. I spent to much time last week snacking, and seeking out sweets and chips. Well.... along came TOM and maybe now I have the culprit. lol. I'm not having any cravings the last couple days. yayyyyyy!!!!!!!

Here's to hoping you are all feeling good and having some happy days!

Love, Dee~

03-05-2008, 10:26 AM
I've come down with some nasty upper respiratory infection. I thought it might be the flu but went to the doctor yesterday and got swabbed and it's not flu but I am certainly miserable. I feel like I got run over by a truck and now I have lost my sense of taste. I've had this before so it must be some specific virus that does it but I don't which one. At any rate, no interest in eating when you can't taste anything.

On top of that, I have some sort of electrical problem in my kitchen. My stove stopped working. I called an electrician this morning but don't know when they will be able to come yet.

Dee-TOM sure can cause some terrible cravings. Hope once it is over, you can get back on track.

Val-hope you are doing well and it is warming up for you.

03-08-2008, 09:57 AM
Don't know where everyone went. have been really sick with a URI but am starting to get better. Went back to work yesterday and am on call this weekend so don't have any choices today. Hope you are all well.

03-11-2008, 12:05 AM
Hey Petra :hug:
Glad to hear you're feeling better! I've just been so busy. So many hours at work. And when I leave the store, I'm still always thinking about work... I'm feeling good these days though. I leave for the Natural Products Expo on Thursday. I'm nervous about that lol. gotta FLY!!! Yikes!

One of my favorite customers was in the other day buying some expensive chocolate. I happen to have several of the bars that had gone outdated and I got credit for them so I comp'd him a couple. OMG he came in with the most fabulous cookies for me.... and I couldn't stop munching them. chunks of chocolate, walnuts and dried cherries..... so OK they're gone now. I'm on my way :)

My weight is staying fairly stable. Was down to 221 last weigh in day. Now I'm still hovering 222-223. This is where I was when I fell off last year. I WILL break this 220 plane and get into the teens!!!!

Hugssss to all the PIC's!!!! Hope you're well and happy chicas!

Love Dee~

03-13-2008, 12:34 PM
Gooooood Morning PIC's,

I'm off to Anaheim in a bit. Ya know.... I found out the hotel I'll be at is just across the street from Disneyland. I've never been to Disneyland... grrrrrrrrr lmao. I may have some evening time I can go be a tourist if I want. We'll see.
I'm going to really try to make smart choices with my food intake. I'm sure it won't be easy. I'm also using these days to try to kick the smoking habit again. Everyone I'm going with are non smokers so I hope that will help. I really don't like how I feel since I started again. I don't enjoy it all- it's just another addicition. So---- No Smoking, No horrid food choices. Maybe visit Disneyland :). I'll see you ladies in a few days.

:grouphug: Be good!
Love, Dee~

03-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Have fun Dee.

I've been working like a wild woman but seem to have settled nicely into eating low carb again. Almost like I've been doing it forever.

03-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Hey ladies. Where is everyone? Hope you had a good St. Patty's Day.

03-17-2008, 10:04 PM
Hey Ladies,

I'm back. Things didn't go too bad and YES I got to go to Disneyland!! Thursday night I was starving. I had my shake for breakfast then nothing til about 9:30pm. At Dennys even. I broke down and wolfed a chicken fried steak w/ff dinner. And I paid for it. I hardly slept cuz I was so overfull. Everytime I laid on my tummy it hurt lol... Serves me right hehehehe. Anyways, the rest of the week was fairly sensible. I was way off my regular schedule tho. And wqe walked and walked and walked. The show was HUGE. The Owners went out to see Tower of Power Friday nite and stayed out way late (translation they were hung over Saturday). The buyer from the other store and I went home back to the hotel early cuz we are smart hehehe. Anyway, at breakfast he suggested we skip the rest of the show and took us to Disneyland instead. It was soooo fun but 1 day definitely doesn't cover it. Again we walked a lot all day! So I'm figuring my walking probably worked off that dinner lol.
So now I have a horrible cold. Either that or maybe just a reaction to the polluted air in the city. I'm sooooooo happy to be home Yayyyyyyyy.

How is everyone here? Mary how are you feeling after your URI? I'm so hoping that's not what I'm working on.

Oh, I didn't quit completely on my smoking, but I'm almost done. I've cut so far back that another couple days should see me smoke free again!!!!!

Val and Curlyyyyy!?!?! where you girls been???? Hope your weather is getting better!

:grouphug: Dee~

03-23-2008, 11:17 PM

Come out Come Out wherever you are ;)

03-23-2008, 11:32 PM
Hi Dee, I'm still here. I've been posting on the LC forum, visiting the protien power board, etc. The protein power board has changed a lot. I think my scale is finally going to cooperate for me. Let's hope it continues.

03-24-2008, 12:43 PM
Hey Petra. I'm glad to see you're doing well and I hope that scaleand your body keep cooperating with you!!!!
It seems it's just you & me around here lately. my scale is wavering. I really think it's a mental thing with me to get into those 'teens. I'll break it soon. I know I will. LOL Then I'll have the same emotional/mental issues when I get near wonderland too. Been there-Done that hehehehe.... We will persevere!

VAL & CURLYYYYY?!?!?! ~~I miss the PIC's. Pop in and just say hi :wave:

:grouphug: ~Dee

03-24-2008, 09:42 PM
You can do it Dee. I have set a little goal to be in Onederland by the beginning of summer. Let's see what happens.

03-26-2008, 05:54 PM
Great goal Petra :clap: I'm still doing the 20 for Now. After that (and I WILL succeed) I'll set a onederland goal.

Here I am tho- the scale up/down. You know I just realized (less than 5 minutes ago), I feel like a child living home with dad again. I'm sneaking food. Eating in my car. Waiting til he's asleep or out of the house, then binging. Garbage I KNOW I don't need, or necessarily even really want for that matter. I know it's wrong, it's self sabotage, it's unhealthy...... BUT I don't need anyone else lecturing me about it, calling me names, laying on the guilt and/or then pretending it's because they care- grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I'm 40-freakin' 9 years old!!!! OMG, it's SOOOOOO history repeating lol. Does anyone else ever go thru this? Thank heavens there are no fast food places anywhere close enuf to actually go to!!!!!!!

wow PIC's, that was actually really emotional to write and read over. I'm a litte exhausted lol.

OK, Rant over.
Negative behavior is now acknowledged. What I to do with this revelation is now in my own hands.

Dee~ :grouphug:

03-28-2008, 11:51 PM
or like alcoholics who hide a bottle in the back of the toilet bowl tank? I think he might be able to relate.

03-29-2008, 10:06 PM
heh, so true.

I'm back at 221 today!!! Now I'm going to really push to get under that 220 mark. Yesterday wasn't a great food day for me. Had a meeting at the other store and didn't get lunch before I went. They have a hot deli with chicken strips and corndogs (among other things)... but you can guess what I went for lol. (3 strips and one dog)... But, I didn't hide, and it was lunch, not an extra snack.

So I hope you're doing well Petra!!! btw, how's everything going with the new pup? Did she finally settle down and stop pottying in the house?

Everyone have a great weekend!!!!!


03-29-2008, 10:42 PM
OMGosh Dee. The new dog....... Pottying in the house has been the least of my problems. The dog has health problems. She is throwing up all the time. Trying to figure out what is wrong with her. I started her on new food today but the vet is thinking either pancreatic insufficiency which is common in German Shepherds or inflammatory bowel disease. She is still 20 lbs underweight. She also can't smell!

04-01-2008, 05:33 PM
oh my gosh Petra, I'm really sorry to hear that. Is this something the rescue group should have (or did) know about, that you should have been told before the adoption? No matter now though- I have no doubt there is a reason you and she found each other ;). btw, how do you detect her ability to smell?

Well, I saw 219 earlier this week, then back up to 222. I'm happy 222 is now my higher end weight!!! 220 this morning but I'm still holding back from adjusting my ticker until it is a stable weight. I guess lol...

I have to read the silly food handlers book today. I have been putting it off and now the seminar/test is tomorrowand I'm only 4 chapters into it. I know the basics but I DO NOT test well. And why is it necessary for me to know the actual freakin names of all the foodborne illnesses anyway? LMAO..... Whatever, I best get to it.

I wish you well Mary, And all the other missing PIC's (hint hint)....

:grouphug: Dee~

04-01-2008, 07:07 PM
I contacted the rescue group and they told me she was never a good eater for them but they never noticed any vomiting. The good news is that I have switched her from chicken based to lamb based food and she is eating like a horse and keeping it all down so far. I'm hoping it was just a food allergy.

The smell thing was sort of a coincidence although she has never sniffed on walks which I always thought was strange. Last week at obedience we trying to teach them to retrieve by throwing a treat, having them find it and then return to you. She couldn't find the treat even when it was right under her feet. I came home and tested her with a bunch of other smells and it became obvious she couldn't smell. I called the vet and she said they use rubbing alcohol. She failed that test too.

Now about the foodborne illnesses.....if you are actually a food handler you do need to know that stuff. You need to know how they are transmitted so you can prevent them. You don't want your place shut down for causing some epidemic.

The low carb forum here has gotten interesting. They renamed it "carb counters" and split it into Atkins and Others. It is certainly more interesting than it was a few years ago. I've also settled into the protein power board again and seem to be finding my place there. I think I'll be okay. I forgot how time consuming this whole thing is. Maybe in a few months I won't spend quite so much time on it.

04-06-2008, 12:18 AM
Hey Petra :wave:

How's the pup doing? Still keeping the food down I hope.
My older, fat cat Clyde has had a problem throwing up ever since he found me. I've done the vet, who suggested hairballs- but the OTC med, and combing never really helped. He'll go weeks without doing it, then every morning we get to wake up to his gagging. I switched to lamb & rice foods (both dry and wet) a couple years ago. It seems his "spells" are fewer and shorter. Anyways good luck with it.

I did my test and actually I think I did fairly well. Most the info was pretty simple, common sense, and things I already know and practice. I was worried about all the names of the illnesses and their symptoms etc... I know how to handle food. Temps etc.... but why I had to know names was freaking me out lol. Actually that was only 1 or 2 questions on the test. What was really odd to us was that questions regarding temps were very limited too. I felt that should have been a main focus. Soooooo... I'll know in a week or so how I really did.

How are you doing with your carb/protein plan? That worked so well for you beore! Hope you're doing great!!!!

Curly~~~ Don't you have spring break coming up soon? I miss you!!!!

Val~~~ I miss you too!! How have you been???


04-06-2008, 10:17 PM
Tammy is doing better on her new food.

Dee-you and I seem to be the only two here which is a little spookie. I'm pretty content eating low carb again but my weight loss is going slow. I'm making some adjustments to see if I can find out what is stalling me. I cut out grains last week. I'm going to give it another week before cutting anything else out. I seem to be losing inches even if I'm not losing pounds. 2 people at work this week commented that I look like I've lost weight and I haven't lost that much yet.

04-08-2008, 02:42 AM
I've noticed it's just us two too, but I have faith other PIC's will return with spring just around the corner!

That's wonderful people are noticing. They say it's not all in the scale. LOL whoever They are ;). I still weigh every morning, and sometimes at night too but I don't obsess over the numbers and I do think I am able to keep it in a proper perspective. I think I do it more out of curiosity how the body works.

What protein powder do you use? I'm still confused about all the different kinds. I recently tried a rice protein (low cals, and low carbs) but it was not very tasty. I've switched to AES (?). I get it 6lbs for about $30 at Costco. It tastes ok. It's a Whey/Soy/Casein mix. I mix it with chocolate Calorie Countdown (used to be called Carb Countdown) and it's pretty good. Anyways, I was just wondering if you had any input.

Have a great day!


04-11-2008, 10:25 PM
I use designer whey right now. I used to use optimum nutrition. There's a brand a lot of people on the low carb sites like but I can't remember the name right now. It has no carbs and 40 grams of protein per scoop.

04-13-2008, 06:50 PM
The one they like is isopure. I've never tried it. Do you like my new avatar?

04-13-2008, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the info. There are so many out there. I have 2lb can of Naturade Whey at work too. It's pretty tasty.

I LOVE your avatar! I sure hope Tammy is doing much better. I didn't realize she was so big. Or, is it kobe is smaller than I thought?

I got back on the ol' treadmill today. I got out of the habit when I got sick about a month ago. Not that it was a great habit yet lol. Sporadic at best ;). Anyways, I got into the 3fc 5K thread and, tho I should have done it on Wed (my day off) I put it off til today. YIKES!!! It was a busy busy weekend at work. Weather was beautiful, abalone season started this month....... we were SLAMMED and I wound up working extra hard and extra hours... but I did it :) I even did a couple running intervals just to see if I could. It still took me over an hour to do it. But I did it, and that's what matters most. I remember in Seattle I regularly walked around Greenlake, approx 3 miles and always 50-55 min. I'll get there again.

Hope you're doing well Mary. :hug:


04-16-2008, 07:01 PM
Yay to Ali from TBL! Oh, to be in my 20's again.

I doesn't look to good for my 20 for now challenge. I started out so gung ho, then sort of fell out of it. I never gained back tho. So I'll just start another one :)

It was great to see your post in the 5k thread Petra. I sure wish I had the dogs to take out. Would totally make it more interesting lol.

Hope your day is wonderful!

:hug: Dee

04-16-2008, 11:57 PM
the other big news is that got inspired enough to join a yoga studio. I've been two yoga classes so far this week. They were beginner classes and were actually too basic so I'm moving on to another class tomorrow to see if I can find something that feels right to me.

Tammy has still been sick off and on. She was tested for pancreatic insufficiency this week. I'm waiting for the results. I'm also planning to take her for her canine good citizenship test on the 26th which is most of what she needs to be a therapy dog.

I haven't lost much of my 20 lbs either. I plan to go back to the doctor next month after I come back from a conference. I can't feel too badly about it because I have been eating pretty much on plan for over a month now. And now I'm exercising as well. Can't ask much more of myself. It will come off when it comes off.

04-19-2008, 05:01 PM
Dee-I've been trying to find Seitan in my local area and have been unsuccessful. Do you sell it at your store? If so, can you ship it? I know it is usually refrigerated. I also know it is possible to make it from scratch but I wanted to try a commercial version first.

04-20-2008, 10:40 PM

boy this semester has been kicking my butt! BETWEEN WORK AND SCHOOL i am just worn out... 2 more weeks and school is done till september! yahoo!

they asked me if i would like to have some of my loan money moved for the summer semester.... eh no thanks!

well I was just reading the posts that I missed.. I have to agree petra the low carb works for me.. isopure huh? thats awesome 40 grams protein and no carbs... is that soy?

havent been on the scale ... almost afraid to look... thos i do know nothing in my closet will fit so thats not too good...

I agree You have to have your mind focused on only weight loss ... i am amazed at the amount of time i spent reading, planning etc when i was melting away before, I am still taking the metformin but i am not seeing any weight loss effects from it, i guess your body adjusts to it.

petra, my dog chai also has food allergies, tho he tends to have skin reactions more so than tummy troubles.

I ended up keeping the lil calico kitten....

anyways I am planning to get back on track... I thinkk low carb high protein!


04-21-2008, 10:28 AM
Curly-great to hear from you. Sorry this semester has been so rough. Hopefully you will have time to catch your breath over the summer. The pictures are sweet.

A while ago I think you posted a site where you could look up various exercise and see how many calories it burns. Do you remember that website?

I'm reading a couple interesting books. One is on carnitine. The other is Potatoes not Prozac. Have any of you read this book? It's actually about sugar addiction. She has come to many of the same conclusions I have although by slightly different routes and she is much more gentle about her approach to it. She has a program for dealing with it which eases you into a low carb/low glycemic diet. There are several protein power folks who follow this program. I'm experimenting with it. It relies heavily on journalling to learn how food affects your mood. I think that is going to be a very enlightening part of the process for me. It's written by a PhD level psychologist. Her science is actually pretty good although I think she may oversimplify a little bit.

04-21-2008, 10:44 PM
hmmmm doesny prozac make most people put on weight? lmao, I v'e done a lot of reading on the effects of serotonin on weight loss, they have said that why the phen-phen combo worked so well (eh expect for the side effects) is because it changed the levels of serotonin in the brain... We had an interesting chapter in my psychology class regarding the "fat rat" experiment.. where they stimulated areas in a rats hypothalmus and the rat either became obese or starved its self to death... that got me thinking tho... seems it also involved the chemical leptin... my brain is cramped right now with child support overload.. but the rat thing was interesting..

I am thinking tho maybe this potato theory has something to do with the serotonin levels of the brain the dopamine effect..

I don't know.. but one thing i am sure of is that I am a carb and sugar addict... and my plan before worked... so i think high protein low carb is for me.....

04-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Hey Curly!!! :hug: It's wonderful so see you posting again. I'm sure you must have been so busy with work and school. I'd be taking the summer off too lol.

So I had this big long post all written out this morning before I went to work, but it disappeard on me... grrrrrrrrrr. I don't even remember what I said now. The most important though, welcome back :)

Petra, we don't carry commercial seitan anymore. I did, but it just kept going outdate. I really think most of our customers who even know what it is prefer to make their own. We do, however carry a snack strip and I would be happy to send you a couple if you want. Here is the site about them. We carry the teriyaki, thai peanut and mesquite lime. Let me know.

How's Yoga going? I tried it once a long time ago, but everyone was so small and bendable. I felt like an elephant and didn't enjoy it. I hope your experience is better than mine ;)

Although I was 6 lbs shy of my 20 for now goal, I have finally made it past one of my mental stops of 220lb. I can always seem to get to 222-221 then stall for months and eventually go right back up. I'm at 217 this morning (I know it's not my weigh in day but it was still good to see). I'll probably go up and down a lb or two, but the fact I've seen it is huge for me!!! Next point (which I haven't seen in years) is the 200 mark. HERE I COME!!!

Have a great day ladies!!!!


04-22-2008, 08:42 PM
Curly-yes, the potato is about serotonin. You'd have to read the book. She does not advocate a high carb diet-far from it. In fact, several people on PP follow this plan because there is reasonable overlap.

Dee-I'll pm you about the seitan.

My shepherd is turning into an expensive dog. I had her hips xrayed today to make sure she doesn't have hip dysplasia and she doesn't. She was dragging one leg last night. Go figure. She's getting an endoscopy on Thurs. Hopefully we will get to the bottom of her vomiting episodes.

04-23-2008, 12:38 AM
I found something really good at the grocery store, tyson grilled chicken strips yummy.. gonna add them to my salad tomorrow for lunch..

amazing when i get off the sugar and carbs... my energy level just zooms and i feel better also!

petra is isopure soy?

u are doing great dee!

04-23-2008, 01:21 PM
Yummmm Curly. With a lil bit of cheese and a hard boiled egg you have some great protein and a chef salad!

Petra, Is there any way the rescue place can (or will) help you out with some of the bills? I mean, you didn't try to "return" her. I'm sorry to hear how ill she seems, but I'm sure you love her just the same! She's a lucky lucky dog. How is Kobe with her?

04-26-2008, 10:11 AM
I think the isopure is whey. I just ran out of chocolate powder so I'm going to look for some.

Yoga-love yoga but because the classes occur at prescheduled times, sometimes I can get there and sometimes I can't. Last night I went to a class I had not been to before. It was all stretching exercises which I liked although it uses a lot of props. I don't like props in yoga in general.

About the dog-the point about going through a rescue is that you get a pure bred dog at a discount. Some people do return the dogs when they discover they have health problems but I made a committment to the dog and I can afford it so I will do the right thing here. She and Kobe are in love. Very different than the relationship he and Buddy had but they are very attached to each other.

We are taking our canine good citizenship test today. The funny thing is I'm sure she can do everything on the test except lay down on command. This dog is a total couch potato so she certainly loves to lay down-just not sure she will do it when I tell her to. We could have used a few more days of practice on that command but we'll see how it goes. Otherwise she should sail through it. This is almost everything needed for the therapy test. After this she just needs to prove she is comfortable around medical equipment-wheelchairs, walkers, crutches; handicapped people; can ignore food; and is good with children. She has no experience with the medical equipment or the handicapped people but the rest of it she can do. One of the nursing homes I go to is going to let me bring her in for practice so we can get the practice to pass the therapy test.

04-26-2008, 10:14 AM
:carrot: an entire week OP, there's hope for me after all!

04-26-2008, 04:08 PM
We failed our test. :( Tammy wouldn't lay down on command but I knew that was very iffy. We had only been working on that command for a week and she wasn't consistent on it. She did everything else perfectly. We took the therapy part of the test too and she passed all the therapy elements so that was a relief. She can't get the therapy certification without the CGC and the down on command is part of the CGC so no certification today. Not sure when we can test again but I now know what to expect and what to work on. Should be a breeze next time. The evaluator was impressed that I had done this much with a rescue in just 3 months and I hadn't really thought about that. She's right.

04-26-2008, 10:56 PM
LMAO .... You had to be there but K.C. just fell off his window seat.

ok.... Yayyyyyyyyyy for OP Curly! There is always hope for you. :hug:

Petra, Sorry about the test. But 3 months really isn't a long time. She'll figure it out. I knew, somehow, that you could never return her to the rescue. I really have trouble imagining anyone who could. But, the financial aspect hadn't crossed my mind. I guess in some cases someone may have no choice but to send the animal back- as opposed to not getting proper treatment.

I finally got my test results back from that horrible food manager exam I had to take. I was so worried. I do not test well!!!! I passed with a 98. LOL I was so shocked.

OK, so now my week- I have spent the last 2 days binging on any and all sugar and chips I could find. The new owners have added Lays and Hostess into our store. :yikes: .. I know it's not the healthy way to deal with it but I just denied myself a wholesome lunch/dinner for those days. As of a few minutes ago, I'm down to 116. Today was a really good day for me (as far as the nasty foods), but I actually don't feel like eating at all.

Oh, here's a nice thing... I called my Dr the other day to see if he would renew my Byetta Rx since I'm heading to the city next week. I can save $35 gas (which has hit $4.10 here!!!) by getting it while I'm there as opposed to waiting til I have my next appt THEN getting the renewal. Anyways, they called me back, and there is another patient on byetta who decided he dind't want to be. He gave them 3 unopened pens and the office passed them on to me! That is over $600. They are half of my dose so I'll be using them up double time, but I'm sure grateful they thought of me :)

You both have a wonderful Sunday!!! I hope you are sharing the same sunshiney weather we are having here.

Dee :grouphug:

04-27-2008, 09:03 AM
Dee-have had similar funny scenes at my house with dogs falling off the couch, bed, etc. I can imagine.

You might want to read Potatoes not prozac. Even if you don't follow the plan, it might give you some insight into why you do the things you do sometimes with your diet. BTW, if you do decide to do the plan, you can eat a sweet potato. When I get to that point that is what I'm planning to do.

Curly-good job staying on plan. Never tried those chicken strips. Might make a good wrap too.

Yes, the price of gas is getting ridiculous and I have a gas guzzling Jeep Cherokee. I don't want to get a new car until they sort out what direction we are going with alternative fuel. Sort of like being afraid to buy a Beta VCR.

04-27-2008, 06:33 PM
Dee-I ordered some of the Tankabars. The smallest number you could order was a dozen so I hope I like them.

04-29-2008, 10:48 PM
Wow Dee way to go on your test...rub a lil bit of the smarts off on me plz! I have finals friday and saturday and then I am FREEEE!!!!!!

Cant wait to be free to do what ever i want to in the evenings again..

Hostess & lays.... No no no... if I have to stay OP so do you! I know I keep repeating this but with high protein and low carb you can eat a lot of food.. and as hard as it is to believe those cravings go away... I feel 100% better... no headaches.... ok I will step off my low carb soap box...

I have a big jar of vlassic pickles in my desk drawer for when the munchies hit!

just finished up my paper for biology-- 10 pages, Shoot i think i am afraid to eat anthing now-- my paper was on the use of antibiotics as growth stimulators in livestock and the resulting antibiotic resistance in humans..... (yawn...) it was interesting tho!

got my walk in sunday... the outside kitties (down to 3) were calling for their breakfast... don't ask me why... but i am in the habit of double checking the back door when i go out cuz chai can turn the doorknob... (dogs are too smart!) so off i went fed the cats then realized that yes i had locked the door and the keys were inside... lucky tho i gave my parents a spare key........ however did i mention i was barefoot and in my pj's ... yep off i trekked 2.5 miles each way..

Petra sorry to hear Tammy didn't get her certificate.. but i think she did a great job.... and next time she will ace it!

petra have you thought about getting a lil hoopty for running to work? the best car i ever had was a geo metro 4 cylinder it got 40 mpg! maybe a small used car in good shape and use your jeep on the weekends.

my dad has a used toyota corolla that he drives for everyday.. and then a newer larger car for travel...

oh and i am still op ... have not gotten the scale out... gonna stay op for a while then get brave and step on the scale...

ok ladies if you dont hear from me in the next few days .. i will be back after finals!... " why did i go back to college?"

p.s. oh btw my hair is this short now! lol towel dry in the am now!

04-30-2008, 06:03 PM
Hey Girls!

I can't wait to hear what you think about the Tanka Bars Mary! I just loved them. I'm kind of still trying to talk the owner into getting some. I think, even if we have to get a lot (for wholesale pricing), they will sell. LOL He tried them too, and really liked them- but he's thinking the two of us will get sick of them when they don't sell. :shrug: BTW, you should be getting the others soon.

I may check at the library to see if I can get a copy of the book. I"m just not sure if knowing why I do what I do will even help me. I feel like I just need to do right, and stop trying to analyze myself so much.???? It's like, by the time i'm in that funk it really doesn't matter whether I know why I"m there because by that time I just don't give a darn. I'm intelligent enough to know the obvious, but then, emotional Dee takes over and bops intelligent Dee on the noggin and just takes over. LOL :dizzy: Know what I mean??? Regardless, you guys' (did I apostrophe that right?) just being some support is great. ALL PIC's ROCK!!!!

Curly~ About the hostess and Lays..... it's not even a craving for them that got to me. It was just the fact they were there! They've been there now for a couple weeks and I'm over it! I think I may have broke down and got some plain ol potato chips last week, but I will only stock the lunch size packages so the damage was minimal- and the small bags satisfied my desire. As a matter of fact there is still 1/2 the bag in my car. I'm working on a plan of "nearly" everything in moderation so I don't get that panic of wanting something I CAN'T have. It seems to be working. Slowly, but working.

I'm sending alla my test smart vibes to ya GF!!! Good Luck. I can't wait to see more of you over the summer! OMGOODNESS!!!! I can't believe you've gotten your hair so short. I bet it's adorable. I just remember that first cut you were so nervous about a while back. I love short hair. YAYYYYYY for towel drying!!!!

OK< back to the car cleaning! :grouphug:

04-30-2008, 10:05 PM
Good luck on your finals Curly. I'm sure you'll do great. I got my hair cut short too. I find it takes more time to style with it short which I find annoying. It gets so stinking hot here in the summer that it was just a practical decision.

05-01-2008, 08:32 PM
The Tankabars arrived today. The taste sort of like jerky but with a different texture. They are okay but I'm not sure I'd want to eat them all the time.

Valerie Joy
05-01-2008, 11:08 PM
Hi everyone, Sorry I haven't been around. My modem was broken for a while.

I've been ok. Still evercising with my DVDs everyday. Eating is ok. I hate to admit I'm still doing some binging. I eat well for a few days and then sneak something like a huge bag of chips. I know it's stress related. I've been being canceled from work more often then not. Money is tight and my efforts looking for a new job are not doing well.

I'll try to stop in more often.

05-02-2008, 12:03 AM
((((((Val))))))!!! Great to see you. I'm so glad you got the modem fixed. I've been wondering how you've been.

Petra~ I liked the idea they were so jerky like, but moister. I only had a taste at the show, not even a whole bar. I still want to get them at the store. I think for the calorie/carb benefit, they would do well. Just have to talk the boss into it lol.


05-02-2008, 08:44 PM
Dee-my package arrived today and when I pulled it out of the mailbox and saw the return address sticker I thought "who on earth is that?" For a second I thought I had gotten a package from the unabomber.:lol: I'm on call this weekend so I'll probably take one to work with me as a snack.

Val-good to see you again. Nice to have the whole group back again. Now we need to attract some others to the group.

Valerie Joy
05-05-2008, 04:53 AM
Hi everyone!

I went out to eat 3 times in the last three days! Well it is my birthday weekend. Wednesday is my actual birthday.

My cat pockeyway is really going downhill. She's 20 years old. She's been loosing a lot of weight. Having trouble eating and stopped using the litter box. She's stuffy and congested and coughing. I was really hoping she would die on her own peacefully but I think I'm going to have to make a decision soon.

Just for once I wish I didn't have to make this decision

05-05-2008, 10:49 AM
Val. So sorry to hear about your kitty. :hug: I remember how difficult that is. Try to enjoy your birthday.

Dee-I've been carrying the seitan around in my bag at work but I haven't eaten it yet. I'll let you know when I try it.

05-06-2008, 12:08 PM
LMAO Unibomber of Gualala!! I'll be curious Petra what you think. I always liked the mesquite Lime one that you didn't want to try. Go figure lol.

Val, I went thru that with Annie last year. I had made the decision that if she made it thru the weekend, I was going to take her to the vet. I awoke that Sunday morning and she had passed peacefully at the foot of the bed. It is so hard. My thoughts are with you :hug:

BTW Happy belated... i mean EARLY Birthday

Lee & I went to Livermore on Sunday for an "oh so exciting" Ham radio swap meet. LOL... actually it was quite fun and I got to meet a bunch of the guys he talks with every morning. We went after work on Saturday- 4 hours on big freeways through the East Bay area :yikes:. There was some big wine festival in town, so major streets (the ones mapquest told us to take) were blocked off and we got lost. Finally found a motel that looked friendly and clean, and got a good night sleep. Up at 5 for breakky, then on to the meet. Afterwards we all went to a chinese buffet. There were 17 ppl at the table! I did ok I guess. We are so limited in restaraunts here, it's really hard for me when we get away. I want everything! Prime rib w/ff on the way there Sat Night.... then a small normal eggs and toast breakfast. The lunch was amazing with all the choices. I mostly kept to meats- one small helping of fried rice. Before you all say where were the veggies, I'll just say I know, I know lol but dang the spread was just tooo tempting. I guess I have more work to do on myself. I decided if we go again next year I'm promising myself to hit the Mongolian grill bar there first!!! oh, and after all that, it looks like I'm up a pound :(....

All of you have a wonderful wonderful day!!!!

05-07-2008, 06:57 PM
OK here's the latest. I found this in a trade magazine I read about natural foods trends.... And even tho I don't care for pickles, I'm thinking of bringing these into the store lol..... It's called PickleSickle. Frozen treats made from freshly squeezed pickles.

Curly, I know you are a little pickle fiend already... would this appeal to you?

They sound weird, even maybe a bit gross- but personally if I saw one at a store I'd probably get it, if only for the name lol.... Anyway, it says once people try them they are hooked.

Petra, do you know of any actual health benefits of pickles?? It states that studies have shown pickles blunted blood sugar spike by as much as 30% after a high carb meal. ( I hadn't heard this and I wont carry them if the advertising is misleading/false). They have no fat and less than 1g sugar.....

I am so intrigued lmao

VAL~ Today is really the HAPPY BIRTHDAY day!!!! :hug: Hope it's a good one!


05-08-2008, 09:50 PM
Dee-haven't heard anything about the health benefits of pickles. That does sound kind of gross to me personally but I suppose some people might like them. I tried the seitan. I don't like the texture-too chewy. I guess it's a good thing I tried it first before I made a whole batch and discovered I don't like it.

My vet has decided to go ahead and treat Tammy for inflammatory bowel disease so we started prednisone this week. Every day since we started it I have come home to diarrhea in the sunporch where they stay while I'm at work. Fortunately, it has a tiled floor. Today we had diarrhea and vomit. However, I'm not sure it's related to the prednisone. She didn't want dinner tonight so I didn't give her any medication either. I think there is a limit to how much she can eat at one meal without getting sick.

Valerie Joy
05-10-2008, 12:51 AM
Thanks for the birthday wishes.

I put Pockeyway to sleep the day after my birthday. It was very sad. She was very unhappy and crying and yowling while being given the shot. Not a very peaceful ending. She was always a mean kitty at the vet.

She was my lap cat. I miss her :(

20 years is a good long life though.

05-11-2008, 06:05 AM
:hug: Val .... wow 20 years! what a long life! never an easy thing to do, but I am sure you did what was best..:hug:

umm Dee I am not too sure about the pickle sickle... tho' maybe it will sell just cuz people are curious.. :lol: i would probably try it!

I am still doing my salad lunches! got all my finals over last weekend! I will do well staying OP these next few weeks cuz I wanna get into my cute lil black dress for a dinner I am going to.. :lol: and my old "cutie" boss will be there....

have a happy mother's day!!!!:flow1:

05-12-2008, 09:23 PM
Hi Girls,

Curly~ Yayyyyyyy for summer ;) keep up the good work and show that cutie a thang or two lol...

Val~ :hug: I'mm so sorry about pockeway. It's always a tough decision.

YooHoo Petra~ :wave:

Well I had to get Jack (our black lovey kitty) to the vet this morning. He showed up Friday night with a huge abscess on the back of his neck. Has definitely been lethargic. The darn thing finally started draining as we went to the vet. I found that out the hard way (ickkkkk)... Anyways, he's home. But very very out of it. They put him out and stuck 2 drainage tubes in and sutured him up. Poor baby. He wobbled straight over to his food bowl and stuck his face in it.... no eating it- it must be a comfort place for him lol. Wonder where he might have gotten THAT from ;)... I've tried putting him on his pillow, and Lee's lap but he just wants to be by the food!

It's really windy here, but the sun is shining. I hope you're all doing well.


05-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Greetings from Washington DC. I'm here for a medical conference. I'm afraid it hasn't been very good for my eating. I've had to settle for whatever I could find which hasn't always been on plan food so far. I brought some Tankabars with me. I have to say they kind of grow on you Dee.

The weather was terrible when I arrived yesterday but it is beautiful today. I hope it stays this way for the rest of the week. Hope everyone else is doing well. Internet service is expensive in the hotel so I probably won't buy it everyday.

05-15-2008, 12:46 AM
hey you are @ 60 miles from me Petra!

I need to come lay on you sofa... cuz never in my life have I wanted to smack someone as much as I would our new co-worker she is pure evil! shes been here @ 5 months... ya know the type that most of the day is hiding passing time... fixin her hair and when the boss shows up magically pretends like she has been working... not only that she dreams up stuff to get the rest of us in trouble! and that smirk! grrrrrrr

well my psych grade just went down the tubes.. my professor posted comments on one of my assignments that it looked as if i copied and pasted the info from a web site verbatim... i emailed him and informed him that i most certainly did not nor did i appreciate his insinuation of plaigarism! sigh...

ok still op, was nice today to wear my skirt with no muffin top!!!

oh and wait till u hear this "crazy new chick" says while i am eating my salad...

i just dont understand how if thats all you eat you stay that size!

after she polished off 6 slices of pizza... i said really i was just gonna ask you how you stay your size the way you eat. grrrrrrrr

lmao no wonder the dentist said i am grinding my front teeth away in my sleep!

ahhhhhhhhh ok iv'e vented i can go to sleep now... :lol:

05-16-2008, 12:23 AM
woah Curly, I don't know how you didn't deck the twit!!! That's not even a possible innocent statement, it was pure evilness. Just remember, what goes around comes around...... she'll get hers some day!
Good for you to write back to your prof letting him know he was way off base. I wonder if he can show you where you supposedly got this c&p from. doesn't sound very fair to have it affect your grade if he can't show reasonable cause.
I'm so proud of you staying OP!!!!

Petra~ I hope your doing ok at your conference. It is so hard to stay OP when you're in a different atmosphere.

Well, I got quite a scare last night. My sister called to tell me dad is back in the hospital. His real estate agent found him in the house, totally incoherent. She was there because they are getting ready for an open house. Anyways.... they did an mri and found a spot on his left brain. Did another today of the rest of his body and found some very small spots on his lung. To small to biopsy so they went into his head. I just got a call that it is not, in fact a tumor but some sort of infection. (Don't know about the lung thing yet, tho he was hospitalized a couple months ago with pnemonia. He had a bout with Lymphomia about 5 years ago and has had regular MRI's since... the last one a few months ago came up clean.

Dr says this infection is totally curable! I am so relieved! We all are. Sorry to make you guys read all this, but I'm actually so excited to get the 'good' news. I just wanted to tell someone else lol.

Me, I'm stressed, hot, tired, grumpy.... but I had a 215 on the scale 2 days in a row now...

One day at a time, one pound at a time!!!!


05-16-2008, 05:45 PM
Wow Dee-you are doing great. I wish my scale was looking that good. I'm also glad to hear your dad is going to be okay.

Curly-good to hear from you. I'm also surprised you didn't slap that woman. I'm not sure I would have been able to restrain myself. Well.....I guess I probably would but I would have been pretty mad.

The conference has been pretty good. I went to a women's lunch today. Sat next to a med/peds doctor from Philadelphia. We had a bit in common but I didn't have much in common with anyone else at the table. I've gone to a few geriatrics lectures and I have to say it sounds like I'm delivering very good geriatric care in S. Mississippi. I seem to be right on target.

05-20-2008, 01:13 AM
It's been a rollercoaster of a week. Dad is still in CCU. His BP dropped way low, low sodium, fluid in lungs, high respirations, low oxygen levels. Very close to needing to be intubated.... Everytime they get one thing under control, another crisis happens. Last night they gave him a blood transfusion and he's stabilized somewhat. Now, they can concentrate on the brain infection- how to deal with it. We're keeping his house on the market, but putting a stop on the condo he was going to buy. Once we know the extent of (if any) brain damage my sisters will start looking into assisted or independent living. It's so freaking hard being 1000 miles away, but I'm so thankful for my sisters being there for him.

I'm stressing out, still losing weight, but I'm not eating well. Calories are down, but all the wrong foods. I keep finding myself eating junk- realizing it after the fact. LOL I went in to get us take out at the mexican place in town- got Lee his usual, and me my usual PLUS a cheeseburger and fries!!!! By the time I got home I had time to think about what and why I did that- and tossed every single ff to the Ravens. Lee had the burger for lunch the next day. I actually felt a little control in that episode.

Petra~ It's good to hear you're having a good conference. I'll bet it feels good to know you're doing things 'right"!

Curly~ Did you happen to catch the thread about another crazy coworker comment??? I will try to find the thread because I'd like to give proper credit but a response one of the ladies came up with is to look at the evil person and say: Do you know you just said that out loud?? Something like that. What a great answer, especially if others are there to witness it. hehehe...

here's the thread.

Have a wonderful Day Chickies!!! :grouphug: Please send some prayers for my dad. I feel like he's just so tired.

Love, Dee~

Valerie Joy
05-20-2008, 03:57 AM
Dee sorry to hear about your Dad. I'll be sending prayers for him and you.

05-20-2008, 10:52 PM
Dee-I'll definately keep your Dad in my prayers.

05-20-2008, 11:36 PM
Dee: will keep your Dad in my prayers also

crazy girl at work was escorted out of the building by admin-- will not be returning..

professor: changed my grade and apologized--tho gave me a 79 as my final grade... yes 1 point from a B-- oh well...

getting back into my walking.. walk everyday to the house I am trying to buy... :lol: dream of the picket fence with little pink roses growing on it...

things are going pretty good this week tho that is apt to change thursday when i visit the dr and climb on that scale! My gp is retiring gonna go load up on drugs! lol prescriptions rather.. so i will be well stocked till i find a new dr.

next wednesday is the dinner for the guy who is retiring from our department... no admin invited.. but my old boss (d r o o l ) will be attending..........

05-20-2008, 11:56 PM
Ohhhh what happened with Crazy Girl?!?! Do Tell, Curly ;) .... Congrats on the grade. You'd think he could have given you an 80 LOL.. GJ n the walking, GL with the house buying!!!!

Petra, are you home yet? How's tammy been doing?

Val~ How're things????

Thanks for the prayers girls.... I haven't heard anything from my sisters today. They're exhausted, so I'm not going to bother them by calling (unless I don't hear from them by tomorrow afternoon). I'm going on the assumption no news is good news. They promised to call me with any changes....


05-21-2008, 07:37 PM
Yes, I'm home. They didn't feed Tammy properly at the kennel so she lost some weight but she's eating well at home again so we appear to be back on track.

Curly-what goes around, comes around as they say.

I'm doing pretty good although I'm having a little trouble getting back into the groove completely. It's now ridiculously hot here.

I had professional pictures taken of me and the dogs yesterday. Have been going over the proofs to try to decide which ones I want for what purpose-mostly Christmas.

05-21-2008, 08:11 PM
oh my goodness rofl!!!! Someone just posted photos from my high school 30 year reunion. (held a couple months ago). These people all look so OLD! Mostly its the men. Gray, balding, etc... THe pics are mostly of one of the "popular" groups of people. The girls all look kind of the same. At least I could identify them by sight. *snicker* and still dressing like floozies in their mini dresses, plunging necklines, and heels- with too much makeup and jewelry... I had to break out the old yearbook to figure out the men, and even then I'm not sure the names on the photos are right! The jocks who've gotten bald & pudgy, the nerds who look like preppies now. It really hits home I'm almost 49 years old!!!!

Self image is a weird thing... hehe...

Petra~ I can't imagine getting a picture with my cats lmao..... dogs are sure easier to deal with sometimes. Glad to hear everyone's well. Keep cool!

love Dee~

06-06-2008, 11:51 PM
hey the pages are all all the june posts are gone

06-07-2008, 12:06 AM

so anyways,
I called my Dr. today to see if I could get out of a $100 visit next week. I had a blood draw last week and was hoping the results were still going down..... but she mentioned they are up. I don't know if she's talking A1c or cholesterol, or what.... in any case I'm bummed. And I have to keep my appt. I think I need to start journaling again. I'm still maintaining or losing weight, but I'm also backsliding into more bad carbs and junk food. So eating less and losing weight does not necessarily mean I'm on the right track- for me.

I hope you ladies are doing good!!!!!

Here's the news on the missing posts:

:grouphug: Dee~

06-07-2008, 01:08 AM
try the soy & yogurt smoothie... the 25 grams of protein in it keeps you really satisfied, & fills ya up I am replacing 2 meals a day... try it replacing 1 meal just to see ... cuz soy is also sposed to lower your cholesterol also...

check out this article:http://www.************.com/soyprotein.html

06-07-2008, 01:24 AM
I think you may be right curly.... but I would have to use Whey protein because I have a huge can of it lol... I was doing a shake every morning, but have really gotten out of that habit. I know, somewhere on this computer, I have the drink recipes that Petra posted a while back. I'm going to see if I can find those.

lol they blocked your posting that site. :shrug:

P.S. What are you doing up this late????

06-07-2008, 10:16 AM
Yes, the server crashed and they lost about 2 weeks of data. We'll all live.

I got my lab work back yesterday. My cholesterol is looking good. Total cholesterol is down to 192, LDL down to 137 from about 160 so I have managed to avoid meds. Even if I'm not losing weight, the diet has achieved some of its goals.

Dee-here are two of my favorite smoothie recipes. 1 cup plain yogurt, 1 cup frozen strawberries, 1/2 cup frozen peaches, 1 scoop strawberry whey protein, and 1/2 cup milk and 2 tbsp sugar free davinci syrup if you have it. I think it would be fine without it. This is about 425 calories so it would be a meal replacement. It is zone perfect (40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat)

1.5 cups chocolate calorie countdown milk, 1 scoop chocolate whey protein powder, 2 tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder, 1/4 tsp peppermint extract and a few ice cubes. That one is low calorie as well (about 250). This is not zone perfect. 22%carb, 47% protein, 31% fat.

I had some professional pictures of the dogs taken. They are too big to post as attachments here. If you want to see them: They are under Tricia's pictures. Tricia is the photographer who took them.

06-07-2008, 10:23 AM
ehh sometimes i just can't get to sleep.. well heres what i do with the soy protein.. oh btw what flavor do you have?

i just add @ 1 cup milk, then @ 6 oz yogurt, the powder,... then run the blender to mix it up... then add @ 7 or 8 ice cubes and use ice crush to moosh it all together...

and i have been taking the one a day weight loss vitamins each day.

:lol: some days i would really like to have a real dinner ... but i made a deal with my self if i make it thru the entire week i can have whatever my mom makes for dinner on sunday...

i was really suprised.. it really has cut off my junk cravings... i was even able to walk to the snack machine with a girl at work and not induldge... she said come on.. i will get ya something what do you want? i said no i am gonna stay on my program! but the smoothies just seem to fill you up and you stay satisfied...

then at lunch i would have my salad or a low carb wrap with turkey, swiss cheese and salad mix on it.... then i would be full till dinner, and drink my dinner smoothie when i get home,

like i mentioned i am gonna try to keep this going until i am back to 235 where i left off or maybe until 199.... then i will just replace 1 meal per day...

works well for replacing breakfast cuz you can mix it up and drink it on the way to work

06-07-2008, 10:28 AM
petra: love the shots on the beach!

06-07-2008, 08:44 PM
I have a low carb smoothie recipe book so let me know if you get bored and I'll give you some suggestions. I've tried quite a few. There's only a couple I haven't liked. I have some that include coffee granules if you are into that.

06-07-2008, 09:52 PM
well today has gone well.. i had some concerns cuz it is much easier to stay op during work days... but no problems, the smoothies were refreshing today... since the temp combined with the humidity was 107!

i am sure by week 3 i will be ready for some smoothie suggestions.. but ya know i am the weirdo who can eat exactly the same thing for months..

its really strange.. i have some radishes in my garden ready to pick,

i planted zuchini, yellow squash,onions, carrots, :carrot:cherry tomato, regular tomato and lettuce :lol: an entire salad.... but looks like everything is in different stages... :lol: the lettuce is the size of clover right now

06-07-2008, 10:30 PM
thanks for the ideas, ladies. I never know exactly what to put in a shake. I'm afraid of all the fruit, but I've been eating it a lot anyways..... I'll try some of those on my days off or the days I go in later :)

I just picked up a carton of Calorie Countdown which I just mix with the powder- it's quick and I don't have much cleanup lol. BTW curly- I have a vanilla flavor powder.

I found a post linking to a site with 70 different protein shake recipes. I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking that having a scoop of ice cream in my shake kind of negates my purpose LOL...

Petra~ Beautiful photos. I love the one with the profiles!

06-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Dee-here's one with vanilla protein powder that I really liked and is probably low calorie also. 1 cup yogurt, 1/2 cup calorie countdown milk, 2 tbsp vanilla whey protein powder, 1/2 tsp crystal light lemonade mix. You could probably adjust the protein and lemonade mix amounts to suit your nutritional and taste needs. It tastes like lemon cream.

curly-I'm contemplating your suggestion of replacing at least one meal a day with a shake. I have enough recipes that it would take awhile to get bored with it and it might help me get the scale moving. I'm seriously starting to believe that my problem is sleep deprivation. I've never had this kind of problem losing weight before but I've also not been this sleep deprived since I was in residency. Coincidence?

06-08-2008, 07:49 PM
Petra.. it seems to be working for me.. and i sure don't mind not having to find something for dinner, washing dishes etc. i can see where it will get boring, but i made a deal that if i do it all week, on sunday i can have dinner with the family and eat whatever i want for that 1 meal, tho i noticed this past sunday that i did limit my serving of "evil carbs" to a very small serving. but the thought of that sunday meal gets me thru the week..

i think the idea of not eating "bad carbs" ie: bread, potatoes ever is too limiting and when you finally eat them you just want more... i think if i go thru the week with the mind set that if i stay op all week .. that on sunday and only on sunday at that one meal i can have whatever i want..... now when that meal is over thats it... no more till the next sunday no exceptions.......

:lol: it also gives you a lot to think about ... during the week ... "do i really want what i am craving? will it be worth waiting all week for? but i think its just the idea that if you really want something you know in your mind you can have it on sunday.... instead of thinking .. "no ____ (fill in blank) ever!!!!

oddly i have been sleeping better since the soy shakes ... hmmm

i did one with key lime yogurt and it was yummy! :lol: tylenol pm is my friend also...

after tuesday i will be a pirate for a few days... i have a cyst on my lower eyelid, and have to go in tuesday morning for op surgery to remove it.. dr says a stitch or 2 but i have to wear the patch for a day or two........ then in a few weeks go back for the opposite eye which has a twin! :lol:

my friend just bought a 15 foot albacore sailboat so guess i will have to learn to sail now... oh and a p.s. i got a real kick out of.. my friend saw my short hairct and said i look like jamie lee curtis...

i was thinking yeah .... i look like her all right if she gained 100 lbs :lol:

06-12-2008, 12:27 AM
I went to the Dr. yesterday.... and my A1c was slightly up. Tho, I have lost 16 lbs since my last appointment. Yayyyy. Cholestorol is still ok thanks to the drugs lol. I'm back to writing food down again. Yesterday wasn't great but I'm calling it my last hurrah.

Today I wore a shirt I got last year that I didn't try on before I got it home. At the time I could hardly get it on it was sooooo tight. Today it fits!!!!! I found a pair of jeans in my drawer that I couldn't get over my hips a year ago. They are still tight, but I can button and zip them AND I can comfortably sit in them heheheheh. I'm not seeing the difference in my spandex shorts pics..... but I am seeing it in the way my clothes fit. BTW, I'm still searching for the answer about WHY I own spandex shorts?!?!?!?!?!

Have a great day ladies!!
:grouphug: Dee~

06-12-2008, 06:56 AM
:cheer2: that's awesome!!!!!!! i think i may have a few pairs of spandex shorts also ! i like them for walking cuz they are made of that stuff that wicks the sweat away.. i 4get what ya call it...

one day at a time.........
sounds like u had a good check up! come on saturday!!!!!!!!!!!

06-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Dee-that's awesome! I have a couple biking shorts that I wear to workout in. I have a shirt made of that material that wicks the sweat away. I love that stuff. Should have gotten more of them.

06-14-2008, 05:48 PM
weatherman said 85 today..... he missed it by a few degrees... it's 104

06-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Ack Curly!!!! lol. It gets warm here sometimes too... I'm NOT a heat person. I think 75 is a heat wave ;)

06-15-2008, 08:19 AM
i made an interesting casserole yesterday.. it's basically lasagna- but in place of the noodles I used eggplant slices- :chef: I cooked it yesterday cuz usually that kinda stuff tastes better the next day:hun:

This is really strange but .. i keep getting these cravings for things i usually don't eat.. like a few weeks ago all week i kept thinking i wanted a tuna steak- and this week i kept thinking i wanted eggplant really weird cuz i really am not that fond of either---

:goodscale: 249.5 this morning :cheer2:

have a great day everyone!

06-15-2008, 10:32 AM
ok ladies... i am curious.. all my life, i have been overweight since @ kindergarten, and my parents dragged me to dr's ... ya know why is she fat? my mom is thin in her younger days barely moving the scale to 97 lbs, dad is small framed @ 160 lbs and 5'6"... no other overweight members in my family......... or so i thought

a few months ago my mom told me that her grandmother was very obese..
and then recently i heard that after having kids my cousin went from @ 150 lbs to way over 300 .. yes on my mom's side of the family...

makes me wonder if the "fat gene" skips a few generations? i really do believe there is a genetic link... Now i am just wondering how this genetic link and the carb issue is connected...

i am doing a bit of research on "leptin" which is the factor the researchers have determined to be the genetic factor....

:lol: so back to my 1st question for u ladies... do you know of any family members in your family possibly a few branches back.. that were obese.. (i hate that word!) but you know what i mean... not just chunky but quite heavy????

interesting article:


Nora K. Shire
Your body’s parts function like a big family: everyone is related, interdependent and vying for attention.

One member is finally finding its voice—and, in the weight-loss fight, is gaining respect. Leptin, researchers are discovering, is one of the most influential hormones—to the point of winning out over old-fashioned will power. Leptin regulates appetite, energy expenditure, body weight and fat, plus it tells the liver what to do with its glucose reserves.

“Your leptin level rises as you gain weight because this hormone is produced by fat cells,” says Karen Gibson, R.D., Women, Infants and Children (WIC) program director at The University of Texas Medical School at Houston. The hormone decreases as you lose weight.

One of leptin’s jobs is to signal the brain when the stomach is full so you will stop eating and a “normal” weight can be maintained. But, should an imbalance occur, this natural process is diverted and unwanted pounds emerge.

Research shows that when you put on the pounds, the body adjusts to the new levels of weight as well as new levels of leptin in the blood. Unfortunately, when you lose weight, several systems are fierce about returning to that higher level. There are major changes in your nervous system and thyroid. Appetite increases a lot.

All these alterations in your complicated body will probably cause you to regain those pounds. Have pity on your poor will power: with all these molecular mechanisms at work, it never had a chance.

The loss-gain see-saw
Maintaining body weight after the pounds are lost was the focus of a recent investigation into the basic biology of human body-weight regulation. Ten subjects were put on a liquid diet to lose 10 percent of their body weight. After attaining that goal, they were given low injections of leptin to bring that hormone level back to where it was before the weight loss.

The hypothesis was that once the body had dieted and lost weight, the brain would perceive the new condition as the body being leptin-insufficient; then it would try to correct the situation. Previous studies showed that when a person loses 10 percent of their fat, the amount of leptin in the blood falls by 10 percent.

Michael Rosenbaum, M.D., director of the Columbia University Medical College study, determined leptin will not help people lose weight but could help in weight maintenance.

This answer could lead to a new class of weight-maintenance drugs designed to keep people from regaining lost weight. In reality, the pills will be tricking the brain into believing that leptin levels are higher than they really are.

The sponsor for this study and a current and longer clinical trial, enrolling 60 persons, is the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases.

If the leptin levels are too low or too high, you will always be hungry and never feel full. This process is complicated by two other hormones: insulin, which also regulates weight gain and increases appetite, and serotonin, which must be released if a feeling of fullness is to be achieved.

“Eating whole grain bread, brown rice and unrefined sugars and more fiber, such as beans and whole grains, plus fruits and vegetables can help accomplish this goal.”

Look for protein foods low in saturated fats. Dairy products low in fat, such as one percent milk, skim and soy milk, non-fat or low-fat cheese, are good choices. Decreasing your stress levels also helps lower the amount of cortisol, a stress hormone that plays a role in weight gain.

“If a patient has real trouble losing weight, I strongly recommend a visit to an endocrinologist to have his or her growth hormone level checked,” Machenbach observes. “If it is too low, leptin will not work effectively. If thyroid levels drop and leptin levels are low, the thyroid’s production will be hindered.”

06-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Dee-you would never survive in MS. The heat here is oppressive and I normally tolerate heat pretty well.

Curly-that dish you made with the eggplant is very similar to a Greek dish called Moussaka. Sometimes they use lamb as the meat instead of beef. Have you ever had it?

As you may remember I wasn't raised by my biological family but almost all of the members of my biological family that I know are obese. My biological mother is over 300 lbs, my sister is also obese and has diabetes, hypertension, the whole metabolic syndrome. My maternal grandmother who died earlier this year was also obese, the one uncle I know on my mother's side is obese, and my biological father who is deceased was also obese (not morbidly so but definately obese). Yes, there is no question I have a genetic predisposition to obesity. My biological mother has already had a heart attack and stroke and she is in her early 60's. Even my niece who lived with me for a few months is obese.

06-16-2008, 12:36 PM
My maternal grandmother has been overweight as long as I can remember, but I've seen pics of her in her 20's where she is slim. My mom was always small- 5'2", maybe 110 at her high. And my mom's twin sister (who is 5'7" or more, I'm not really sure) has had a problem most her adult life altho I would not call her obese. My sisters are both taller than me too by 3-4" and while not obese, both have had issues keeping their weight down.
You know, even in high school, I was swimming on 2 teams, and also had 2 swim classes for approx 5 hours per day in the pool and I still always had a weight problem. I wasn't fat necessarily, but still wearing a 14-16. I was a lot more muscle back then, but still a big girl. Dad's side of the family (that I know) are all WNL for weight.

I know there is some correlation with genetics.... but in my case, it still has a lot to do with choices :shrug: lol.

LOL my sisters and I all have absolutely no curves (other than we got grandmas "girls") No matter what we weigh, we seem to be built straight up and down. No waist, hips or butt to speak of).... Buying clothes for this body is a nightmare. They seem to feel someone with a waist my size should have huge hips too.... I have to buy my pants in the mens dept!

Congrats on the loss Curly!!!!!! Keep it up!

06-16-2008, 09:26 PM
i've heard of Moussaka, but i have never eaten it.. lamb tastes a bit strong to me, i really am not a big meat eater.. i like a good steak, or roast oh and i like turkey... but pasta, bread and cakes & cereal yummmmmm! I am the carb poster child! :cheer2:

can't wait i see a few baby zuchinni and yellow squash in my garden oh and 2 baby tomatoes!

i haven't started back up with my exercise, i wanna hold off till my weight loss plateus then add it back in.. I gotta catch up with Dee .. she's left me in the dust.......... sounds like we are very similar in body type.. i also have no butt or hips..

i think my lowest in this journey.. was 232 i am not sure about the goal of 165, i have been down to 180 and didnt look good at all, but that may be because i did it with phen-phen but i was exercising a lot.. so for now my goal is under 200..

i dedicated my self to the 2 smoothies for 1 month.. i guess this is the half way point.. and yes Petra.. even I am begining to grow tired of them :lol: its always amazing how you don't notice the changes as you are gaining weight... but even losing a few lbs makes you feel better!

my experiment tonight was adding raspberry crystal light to my chocolate soy shake.. ummm it was yucky! :lol: i would not recommend that one!

anyways.. i am still interested in this leptin issue.. tho everything i have read basically says your leptin levels decrease with fat loss, darn i was really hoping there was some other magic way to decrease the leptin in your body... :lol:

i found a really neat site called the daily plate its for tracking weight and the food that you eat its thedailyplate dot com

hey i only have to lose 20 lbs 4 times !!!!!! to be at my tracker goal..

06-19-2008, 12:15 AM
ack.. I've just had a horrible week nutrition-wise. anything and everything with sugar and empty carbs/calories has passed my lips. Cookies, chips, other cookies, potatoes, Cool Whip.......if it's within my arms reach, I've eaten it :(. and, I've forgotten my med 2 nights in a row........ Time to get my bum back on track!

hugsssss girls. Hope you're doing well!


06-19-2008, 11:31 PM
oh well.. maybe you have gotten it outta your system and will have a better week next week !

06-20-2008, 08:23 AM
since i was too lazy to stop at the grocery store the other night... i had to venture out for lunch yesterday... ended up with mcdonalds asian grilled salad.... eh it was ok, but that sesame dressing they give to go on it is just gross! lol well just to salty for me.. i liked the chicken tho and the mandarin oranges... i just didnt care for the salad mix they use... really bitter!

anyways i think next time i will just save my 6 bucks and eat my emergency can of tuna in my desk :lol: i guess i have been working so hard to save the down payment for the house i want to buy that i have become a grinch with my $$$, they have finally dropped the price on the house .. now if i can just get the realtor to write up my offer and stop piddling around.. i am so afraid some one is gonna beat me to it and this house is the only thing in my price range ... and believe me most houses around me are waaaaaaaaaay outta range .. this house is a bank repo...

so crossing my fingers... i have saved up 2,400 in 2 months .. just need 600 more for my 3% down ,,, which truth be told i am sure my dad would loan me the remaining 600 but gonna try to do it myself...

anyways ... i am sooooooooooo glad its friday! can't wait for 5 pm!!!!!!!!

gotta go at lunch and get the stitches outta my eyelid... :cheer2:

have a great day!

06-20-2008, 08:49 AM
Good luck with the house Curly. I hope you are handy or know someone who is. Repo's are usually sold AS IS.

I've been rebelling for a few days, refusing to write down my food or check in here. I am trying to get my act back in gear.

Curly-do you need some smoothie recipe suggestions? I have one for a chocolate raspberry one that I thought would be good too and it was gross. Go figure. I think maybe to taste good it has to be mostly raspberry with a little chocolate instead of the otherway around.

I really don't feel like going to work today but I guess I don't really have a choice. Well, I suppose I could call in sick even though I'm not but that isn't my style. Guess that means I better get moving. I'm also getting a hardwood floor in my living and dining room and the workers will probably be here in about 45 minutes and it would be a good idea to be dressed by then.

06-20-2008, 07:53 PM
i think a few people at my work felt that way as i was the only one who showed up out of 6!.. oh well the day fly by since it was busy as heck!

went to the dr and had a bit of a complication... he said he didn't realize i was such a fast healer and he had a devil of a time getting those stitches out!!!!!!!!! they were grown in!!!

now i go 7/22 for the left lower lid!

i tried mixing key lime yogurt into my soy shake tonite.. its pretty good!

06-23-2008, 09:43 PM
Hey, we fell off the first page! Where are all the PIC chicks? I had a busy weekend but trying to get my act back together. How is the 2 smoothie a day diet working Curly? I was thinking about that today.

06-24-2008, 07:16 AM
well so far the smoothies are working... I am thinking I will hae to remove the banana soon to drop the carbs/calories once I start to plateau,or get with the exercise again... but I am gonna keep going until I get stuck and then start my walking back up...

other than that work is crazy... 5,000 cases -4 agents and govenor has frozen all hiring

the realtor and lenders are driving me crazy- i refuse to have a house payment larger than my 2 week paycheck- I have been in the position before where i was scraping pennies together to survive and i am not going to push myself to that point again...

and the thought of classes soon starting is driving me crazy... so basically i am crazy......

06-24-2008, 06:14 PM
Curly-no one should let you take on a mortgage larger than half your net income.

I'm glad your smoothie diet is working. I will keep that in mind if all else fails. I know my problem is calories. It's just finding a way to consistently keep them under control.

JCAHO is visiting our hospital right now so everyone is on edge. That's the agency that accredits hospitals. They haven't visited my unit yet but I'm sure they will. I'm hoping they come on Thurs. when I'm at the nursing home.

06-25-2008, 12:57 AM
Hi Ladies :),

I'm still here.... still sitting 215. Hurry up and catch me curley *na na na na nana* Last couple weeks actually up a couple and down a couple but that 215 is the number that stays fairly consistent.

Good luck with the house Curly. Sounds like things are moving along. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for you.

Petra~ JCAHO visiting sounds a lot like when the health inspector shows up at the store lol... I hope they find everything all in order.

We had unusual lightning/thunder storms last week. Set off tons of fires here in northern cali. The closest one to us is probably 15 miles and they're starting voluntary evac tonight. Apparently they can only fight it from the air at this time as they can't physically get into it. It's been smokey and hazy for a few days now. The wind has shifted tonight so it's pretty clear.

We're so lucky to live in a beautiful place like this. It really makes you stop and think about the remoteness. Lee takes really good care of our property, keeping good fire lines, brush cleared and easy accessibility for FD in case of emergency. For all of this, I am truley grateful.
Have a wonderful day or days! :grouphug:

Valerie Joy
06-25-2008, 02:55 AM
Dee congrats on the clothes fitting better! I know that feels good! You've been doing a great job!

I'm still trying to stay on my lifestyle plan. I've stopped fitday for the most part. I know what I should be eating and my diet is pretty much the same everyday. I have been cheating a bit with things like cookies (bad val)

I've been keeping up with the exercise everyday. I'm afraid to step on the scale.

Valerie Joy
06-25-2008, 02:56 AM
I just wanted to add that I also believe in the predisposition to obesity. It definitely runs in my family.

06-25-2008, 07:26 AM
hi ladies!

well yesterday i put in a offer on the house! I guess we will see what happens.. houses are very expensive here in the 300k and up range so this little house is really a fluke at 100k.. i offered 86

Dee you are doing a great job! at least you are holding your weight steady, and did not gain it back like i did-

Val good job on the exercise! I need to get back into mine.. I am walking a bit in the evenings with my dog... but I gotta get in gear, the animal rescue where my parents adopted their lab from is having a reunion fund raiser walk in sept of 3 miles and i want to take their dog to that.

Petra- the social services office where i work is going thru accreditation right now- thats why we are being sent to all these training updates... leaving not much time fo actually doing our job----which makes for a very piled up desk and angry custodial parents!

have a great day!

06-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Good to see you again Val. Glad things are going a little better for you.

Well, I didn't luck out. They came to my unit today. They actually arrived while I was in another part of the hospital doing a consult so they were already starting their questioning before I got back to the unit. They pick a chart and scrutinize it. I don't know why the nurses chose the chart they did because it is the most complicated chart we have. It's a patient who was court committed from another county which is extremely unusual. I actually have no idea how we did.

I went to pilates tonight. We had a substitute teacher and she did more difficult stuff than the usual teacher. I know I'm going to be sore tomorrow. I go back on call tomorrow for the next week but this is the last time I'll have to take a whole week at once.

06-27-2008, 07:08 AM
friday :cheer2:

06-27-2008, 12:10 PM
Friday......... whoopie! LOL and that is said with a huge amount of sarcasm from one who works every weekend ;)... I'm probably the only one who gets excited to see Monday. (Monday is MY Friday.)

I know it's not going to stay, and I'm not sure why it says it but my scale this morning says 211!!! The lowest I usually see is 113. It was sure a surprise to me.

I have such a headache this morning. The smoke got pretty thickish last night and still hanging in there now. The sun is just bright orange. It's still hard to get any detailed info about the fires nearest here (10 miles away or so) cuz they aren't considered major incidents, but there are a few and they aren't controlled yet. And, they are saying now that we may get more lightning tomorrow.... Hopefully they are wrong.

Anyway girls, have a good day and enjoy your weekends!

:grouphug: Dee~

06-28-2008, 08:07 AM
:cheer:211:cheer2: 211:cheer:211:cheer2:Dee is heading to ONDERLAND! Girl.... update that ticker!

Monday........... YUCK!... mondays I am in court all day, listening to fairy tales...

Not sure what I am gonna get into this weekend, I know one thing i have to do is choose classes for fall... maybe another sociology class and a law class gonna avoid algebra till they catch up with me... :lol: hey i am paying i should be able to take whenever i want! :lol:

anyways.. checked my scale down a few 10ths of a pound but not to the 246 mark yet... gonna go pick my zuchini today

wow Dee those fires sound scary, hope they stay away!!

Petra- how did things go at work? are the snoopers gone? I need to make a grocery run.. I have been thinking about making that south beach dish- cheeseburger quiche

5 eggs, milk, groundbeef & cheese... but maybe i will sub bacon and chopped tomato

walmart has the most awesome bacon- applewood smoked bacon very lean and yummy

VAL- good to see u posting how are things going there? is it hot yet?

06-28-2008, 10:11 PM
I'd love to update curly... but I only count the number I see on Tuesdays. So I have a few days to wait. Besides, this morning it was back up to 213... grrrrrrr. I'm backing off the salt!!!!! Onderland has been on my mind a lot lately. It's been YEARS since I've been there.

Today is fairly clear here, finally. I just saw "real" fog and moisture on the way to work. We didn't get the lightning thankfully. I wish we could get more info regarding the incidents near here. So many rumors in town lol... ( I still love the small town though!) I'm hearing they are getting things more under control which is wonderful!

Have a great weekend PIC's!!!
:grouphug: Dee~

06-29-2008, 09:16 AM
boy.. this is a mixture I have come up with this morning!

chocolate soy protein powder, 2 tbs sugar free pnbutter, small banana!!

its ummmm different! I think I prefer the vanilla powder- the chocolate tastes too fake...

wow I just noticed the date... I have made it thru the month!!! :cheer2:

think I may as well... keep going and do another month! see what number I can hit by the end of august when i have my business trip....

DEE- i am trying to remember and i think the lowest ihave been in my adult life was @180- it was odd tho that at 180 i really looked sickly- like a scarecrow! people even said i looked too thin - weird cuz the drs think for 5 foot 5 you should be @ 150

I like Queen Latifah's view she says she's a size healthy! its nice to see the weight loss programs telling people that even a 10% loss makes you a healthier person

07-01-2008, 05:01 PM
I'm thinking too Curly, and 180 is what I remember for a low. I definately dind't look sickly though!!! lol. I carry most all my weight from my chin to my belly with rather large "girls" so I've never looked small.

Happy July, Ladies!!!!!


07-04-2008, 07:32 AM Ladies!!!

Well here's my update... got all registered for the fall semester... i recd a partial scholarship so i ended up having to take 3 classes this semester.. you know use the $$ or lose it...

good news... i got my credit score up higher so now i am eligible for a program called "more house for less"... where my employer gives 2500.00 and the program matches that for a total of 5,000 toward closing!!! so that means all i need is my 1,000 good faith deposit.. submitted my offer and just waiting to hear back !

in scale news.... it's not budging from 247.. guess its time to start walking on a regular basis now...

Dee for some reason my weight seems to go on my back and stomach, grrrr

07-09-2008, 06:44 PM
Wow.. talk about a fall from the front page. We were the last group on the list!

Sounds like you're going to be busy curly. I hope you will still be able to set aside a few moments to keep us all updated on your life. You have so much going on.

Me, I'm still hanging out. It's hot here and I fell like I'm going to be ill. I haven't been eating real well, but not horrible either. I'm still willing myself to be conscious of the snacking at work, so it's staying under control. I'm still not exercising though. I've got to get over that hump soon!

Hope you all had a nice holiday. Mine was very very busy. We had the busiest day (dollar-wise) than ever!!!
I'm still in search of that elusive employee who would be willing to WORK in exchange for a paycheck hehehe.

Have a wonderful wonderful night/day girls!!!
:grouphug: Dee~

07-10-2008, 11:04 PM
Hi Dee!

I have this idea now that i want a kayak! lol anyways... very glad tomorrow is friday... yeah my classes start sept 8th just around the time.. that if the bank accepts my offer i will be moving! won't that be fun? not!

yeah i need to get going with my walking program or go to the gym that i am paying for and not using!

even more so since the scale is refusing to move!

yeah i think i am trying to pick up some lil bug have a lil temp and sore throat...

hope u are feeling better...

07-14-2008, 09:40 PM
247...........247..... 247


07-15-2008, 02:07 PM
awwwww Curly :hug:

Mine's hovering too! I've come to accept that with my current lifestyle it's gonna be slow going. Lose a couple of lbs., then stall, then 1 or 2 more lbs., then stall again. Until I make the decision to up my exercise and watch what goes in my mouth more closely it's just going to be like this. And we have to remember at our age (with all our wondrous hormonal changes ;)), weight loss is just that much more difficult. On the positive side, at least I'm not gaining any weight.

Keep up your hard work GF!!! You know it will pay off eventually.

07-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Hey... Where'd we all go???

I've been busy here at work. Not the best excuse, but I have no other lol. I'm off to Sacramento tomorrow (Tues) for another work type food show. I'd almost prefer not to go considering it's actually my days off, but I was not given a choice ;) It's just an overnight trip this time.
Been trying to get a new schedule for work too.... it's making me crazy. The owners keep telling me I'll get real tired of trying to cater to everyone else's wants and I'll eventually make a schedule that works for the store. We'll see. I'm trying to prepare for a trip to Seattle at the end of the month too... and my freakin deli girl just gave me her notice. She'll be leaving 3 days before I get back. This is all making me really really stressed out. I've met with most of my staff and explained that we'll all just have to buck up and be flexible.... I've found myself placating myself with junk again so I've got that back under control....

Anyways.... Hope you're all doing well! I'll check in when I get home and confess to any indiscretions (which I plan to make very few of- if any) lol.....

:grouphug: Dee~

07-26-2008, 03:46 PM
hi there...

just got back from shopping... stopped at gnc and picked up the whey protein powder this time.. and a new product they have ... a chewable omega 3 supplement looks like a starburst candy.. not bad!

also got flax oil to add to my smoothies...

07-27-2008, 12:33 AM
hey Curly!

I was starting to think you started back to school already. Good to see you're still around :hug: I sholuldn't have worried- you have always been the glue here ;)

Well, my deli girl decided that today would be her last day. She told me around 9am and was gone by 11.... Now I have another outbreak of "cold sores" on my upper lip. grrrrrrrr... I haven't had this in years, and now twice in a month!!! I have to re-work the schedule again plus get my desk cleaned up along with all my other work before I leave Monday. AAARRRGGGGGGGGG!

thanks ;) I feel better now hehehe.

The Sacramento trip was good.. Had a welcome dinner Tuesday night. It was a buffet, but we got there pretty late and lot's of the food was gone already (yay) I was very reasonable in my choices. Well, except for the coconut and pineapple sorbets lol. I couldn't decide so I got one of each- tho I did only have a few bites then shared it around the table. My boss rented us a big SUV limo and we went to a really dive-y bar to listen to some blues. Fun, but I tell ya I'm toooo old for that! I was so tired, then my roomie decided to talk til like 2:30am! Talk about tired hahaha. Breakfast was a bagel and TWO double mochas! Not the best choice I know but I had to wake up. At the show the first area was bakery so lots of breads and desserts.... I tasted a little but stayed under control. It made me full tho, so I mostly took samples for trying later.

To sum up, I think I did OK :) NOW--- Off to Seattle on Tuesday. Road food... that's a tough one for me, but I'm aware of my issues and I will practice for 'the rest of my life" I'm excited to see my family! Lee's excited to go to the hydroplane races lol. Neither one of us is too thrilled to go to a Mariner's game heheheehe...

Val & Mary?!?!?!?!?!?! How are youuuuuuuuu?

:grouphug: Dee~

07-27-2008, 07:51 AM
ooooooo you need the stuff I give the outdoor kitties- my mind just went blank- haha L-Lysine, will make the cold sores go away, I give it to the kitties outside cuz they have outbreaks of sniffles and sneezing.. which i found out is actually a form of herpes... vet says most all cats are born with the herpes virus.. just doesnt activate in all cats...

when people say their cat has a "kitty cold" its usually an outbreak of the herpes virus.. sooo as you know cold sores are also from the herpes virus...
:lol: these days when you say herpes virus people automatically think you mean the sexually transmitted virus... but there are many forms/ types..

I became interested in this becuz I have had the chicken pox @ 7 times and the shingles @ 3- I just don't build immunity to the chicken pox when I have them like other people do.. even worse they can pop out on me if I get super stressed!

Anyways enuff of that.... sounds like you had a fun trip.. I was dreaming of a bagel the other day :lol:

I went last tuesday and had a cyst removed from my lower eyelid... no biggie but was suprized that my BP was a bit high... told the nurse.. I have hospital phobia.. and the BP is normally not high..

in limbo with my house purchase- the list price was 129,900 i offered 97,000 and the seller (bank repo) countered at 129,900 so generous..:lol:

so my realtor sent back "no thanks" i see this week they have dropped the price to 119,000? my friend says offer them 100k but I think I will hold off- I may lose it but I refuse to get in over my head in debt that I can't handle.

I have a business trip in August to D.C., just for 2 days, but the conference is being held in a luxury hotel.. :lol: country mouse goes to the city....

ok gotta scoot.. gotta find a scat mat for my back door- my 10 yo male neutered cat has found a new hobby -spraying at the back door :yikes:

07-28-2008, 12:00 AM
That's really interesting Curly... about the cats. I wonder if that's whats going on with my siamese. His nose is all broken out again. Same thing happened at the same time last year so I'm thinking along the lines of an allergy, but it could be. It also shows up on his ears too... little bumps that I could almost say look like little blisters.... he scratches at his nose til it's all raw :(... I put anitbacterial ointment on it but he doesn't much like that at all lol. I'm shopping for some L-Lysine for myself so I'll try giving that to him too. Can't hurt, can it???? (I cannot believe I don't have L-Lysene at the store!!!!!!!)

My big fat cat actually ruined a wall in the house spraying.... I finally broke down and got him a litter box and he's been ok since :shrug:

Good luck on the house offer. You are so very smart to stay within your budget tho.... So many people in Sonoma and Mendocino Counties who got easy loans, are now in forclosure.... I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

I'm packing for my trip to Seattle. Lee's sick. I told him if we don't leave til Wed. I'd be ok with it. I'd actually like a day to decompose from 2 weeks without a day off hahaha. I have no idea what kind of internet connect I can get at my dad's house where I'm staying. Since he went into the assisted/independent living place my sis had the phone and cable disconnected. I hope his neighbors have some unsecured wireless networks ;).

OH, my scale this morning was 210!!!!! but I'm not changing anything til vacation is over hehehe.

Have a great weeek if I'm not able to get here!!!!

:grouphug: Dee~

07-30-2008, 08:41 PM
210 thats AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been reading up on flax oil for weight loss... sounds like a good idea!

08-05-2008, 02:54 AM
It's been a long week! We're on the way home at a motel in Grants Pass Oregon. I can't wait. 8 hours driving left!!! yayyyyyyyyyyy...



08-06-2008, 05:58 PM
I'm Home!!! got here about 5 last night. I love my family and I love Seattle but it is so nice to be here lol. We had a great time. Dad's house is about empty and that was a huge shock. He fell down 3 times while we were there and the final time they stuck him in the hospital again. Hopefully they can find out what's going on with his balance.

We went to a Mariners game, and the Hydroplane races. Saw the Blue Angels and several other cool planes at the races. And of course visited lots of family.

Boy, I'll tell you it didn't take long for me to appreciate the (lack of) traffic problems around here lol. I'd never move back to the city!!!

So I got on the ol scale today and it was 212.... not bad for a week vacation I guess. I'm happy ;)

How has your week gone?

08-07-2008, 08:28 PM
welcome home!

yeah i am with you i am a country girl for sure... well not much to report here scale remains stuck,,, have a new pet project "soldiers angels" you adopt a service person - you promise to send cards or letters once a week and a care package 1-2 times per month... sounds pretty cool

they have 42 service people waiting to be adopted so if you think you might like to join in the address is soldiersangels .com

well somone put a contract on my lil dream house it went for 119,000 but i just don't think i can afford a 1,000 a month house pmt. sigh i am sure this was the only time anything will sell in that range in my neighborhood..

but they say everything happens for a reason ... soooooo...

ok better scoot....

08-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Okay, another prodigal has returned. I skimmed through the posts. Sorry you didn't get the house Curly but I'm sure you'll find one that fits your budget. It's still a buyer's market in most areas. I know it is here.

I'll give you the brief version of what I've been up to. I tried going to the 24/7 gym with the yoga studio for a month. It didn't work very well and I was hungry all the time so I ditched that idea. Fortunately it didn't require a committment. I'll stick to yoga which I really like and will actually go to.

I got very frustrated about not losing and was really not paying much attention to what I was eating. Even ate some sugar! I've finally gotten desperate enough to try weightwatchers again. I'm doing the online version because I'm not sure I could consistently get to meetings with my work schedule. I'm also doing the core program which is basically their twist on Volumetrics if you've read that book. I peed like a racehorse yesterday so I guess at least the diuretic part works. I'll try to post more often and let you know how it is going. It also appears it will take a little while for me to completely get the hang of it.

Next Sat. I'm going to the beach for a week. I rented a house so I can take the doggies. I'm looking forward to that. I was on call this weekend but it wasn't too bad.

08-11-2008, 02:32 PM
:hug: Petra! Nice to see you again. I'm so sure you'll get back into the swing of things again. It seems to me once your mind is set, you are able to accomplish just about anything!
The beach with the dogs sounds like a wonderful vacation! I hope you enjoy yourself.

Curly~ sorry about the house deal. I know it's not much to say, and you've probably heard it already (too many times lol) but here goes. It probably just wasn't meant to be. Somewhere out there, sometime, the perfect for you place will come to you :). You were so smart not to get locked into something you weren't 100% sure about. Lot's of people around here are in big troubles because they didn't show your restraint. :hug:

I hope you are both having a great day. I know I am. Finally a day off for lounging (sort of) ;)

:grouphug: Dee~

08-11-2008, 09:35 PM
Our nurse practitioner is on maternity leave so my life has gotten a bit busier. I now only go to the nursing home for half a day and I go on Mondays, then I have to come back to the hospital and see all my hospital patients in the afternoon. Makes for a long day.

I've lost 5 lbs since starting my little WW experiment. I know it's all water but I'll take it. It's still nice to see my scale move. I haven't eaten fat free cheese in a long time. Have either of you had any recently? If so, can you recommend a brand that doesn't taste like rubber. I'm hoping they have improved it in the past few years. I really don't like skim milk either. I can get to 1% but I don't know about skim. Adjusting to this low fat eating after years of low carbing is tough. I have a fair amount of low fat stuff in the house and I'm not going to throw that out. I'll try to switch to fat free as I use it up.

Tammy brought a dead mouse in last night. Completely grossed me out. I started screaming like a crazy woman. Neither of my other dogs were ever hunters.

08-12-2008, 09:17 PM
I took Kobe in for his annual check up and took Tammy along too. She is up to 70 lbs!! She can probably still afford to gain another 5 or so. Unfortunately, Kobe is 101 lbs so we have some work to do. I'm going to try to do more walking with him. It will be good for both of us.

08-14-2008, 08:36 PM
this will be hard to believe but the best fat free american cheese is "food lion" brand do you have that store?

now this i find hilarious... well I grind my teeth under stress and at night... the dentist said i need braces cuz my teeth are developing gaps from the grinding.. braces? at 47 :lol:

yeah I was dissapointed.. cuz there is not a house in my neighborhood under 300K and probably won't be again.. but they say there is a reason for everything...

got my books today for my classes ... class starts 9/8

my new boss......... ehhhhhh dont ask.. lets just say I am looking to transfer!

08-17-2008, 11:32 AM
No, we don't have Food Lion here but I'm familiar with the store from living in Delaware and Virginia earlier in my life.

I ate about 30 points over my allowed last week but I still lost those 5 lbs that I'm sure were water. I'm going to try to reduce that every week until I get down to what I"m supposed to be.

I'm on vacation this week in gulf shores. I rented a house so I could bring the dogs but so far this has been a disaster. Tammy normally only goes to the bathroom in her own yard at home and she was giving me a stroke yesterday. She didn't pee for about 15 hours. I also tried leaving them in the house this morning while I ran to the grocery store to pick up a few things and they trashed the house-knocked over the kitchen trash and had it everywhere and Tammy pooped in the house. I'm debating my options. I may end either having to find somewhere to board them down here or just pack up and go home. This is my first time travelling with Tammy and I think it will be my last. Right now they are both laying down very content.

08-18-2008, 03:09 PM
LOL Curly. I had braces in my 30's. I wanted them so bad growing up, (all the cool rich kids had them ;) ) but my teeth were just about perfect. Then I lost some of my molars and those I had left drifted. When I was going to get bridges etc to fix them they decided they needed to be straightened up first..... Anyway, I still thought it was cool to have them lmao!!!! (I changed the band colors regularly to coincide with holidays, and my favorite sports teams. )

Petra, I'm sorry to hear things aren't going as smooth as you'd liked on your vacation. Hopefully by now it's gotten better. You know, even when I was doing WW I didn't do a lot of the FF foods. So many of them are loaded with HFCS to compensate for the loss of flavor and texture. Hmmmmm... could that be why it didn't work well for me? hehehe. Congrats on the 5lbs!!! Water or not, it's still motivating!

THings are going well here. I finally get 2 days in a row off!!!! I haven't really relaxed since about a week before we went to Seattle. I'm sure doing it today :)

:grouphug: Have good days Ladies!!!!

08-23-2008, 09:29 PM
oh geez Petra.. maybe Tammy will chill... new surroundings and all.. I myself am just totally disgusted.. went to buy some outfits for work and had to get size 22 when just last year I was wearing 16's grrrrrrrrrr didn't take long for my "protein powder fast" lbs to come back in all the wrong places... i swear I don't know whats wrong with me ... I just have become so lazy.....

I don't even have fantasies of being thin.. but crap under 200 would be nice! sigh.........

Its like when I get home from work ... I am am just worn out... like i am perpetually tired!

I don't know about the braces Dee.. lol you think after they put them on .... they could wire my mouth shut??????????/

08-24-2008, 08:40 PM
I'm home from vacation. I found doggie daycare for the dogs which worked out pretty well. I dropped them off every morning and picked them up every evening and could enjoy the rest of my day while I was on vacation. I think they are both happy to be home but especially Tammy.

Dieting didn't go real well on vacation. I'm getting back on track. I don't think I can get into the fat free thing real well but I actually bought skim milk this week and I am down to fat free yogurt so we'll see how it goes. I want to give it a few more weeks.

I also went to yoga today. That is one positive change I have made in the past 6 months. I still go to yoga regularly as my schedule allows. I'm trying to focus on the positive changes I've made toward better health even if it hasn't caused any great result on the scale.

08-27-2008, 09:37 AM
Back from the big city... ugggh I don't know how people can stand living there... I guess its all what you get used to. My friend picked me up in the evening and showed me some sights... beautiful archecticture.. but who wants a home where your odds of getting mugged are once every six months? ...

hmmm scary those mirrored elevators... kept trying to figure out who that fat lady was looking back at me :lol:

took today off .. but looks like rain all day I guess the remmanats of Fay have gotten here..

have a great day pic girls!

09-01-2008, 12:05 PM
Hey Girls!

Petra~ I hope everything is ok for you. Stay safe.

Curly~ I's SO with you. I don't mind visiting the city, but I'll never be able to go back to live. hehe.

I have to go to a manager party today. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to it totally though. I've heard most of them use the day to get as drunk as they can. ACK! I've also heard there are nice bonus checks given out too... yayyyyy! I'm think I'm going to get my hair cut and hilighted then pay off bills. :)

You ladies have a great day.

:grouphug: Dee~

09-03-2008, 09:57 PM
hey guys remember when i was dating that engineer who was a workaholic? well news story just broke in fl ... he has 3 wives and no divorces!!!!!!!!!! google bigamist florida.....

the reporter told me at least 9 women have stepped up and said they dated him... one was 71 yo

09-04-2008, 12:32 AM
OMG Curly!! That is so weird! I'll have to check out the story.

I'm off to San Francisco tomorrow at 6am... YUK. Another work trip, but this one isn't overnight. A long long day. (It'll still be fun tho)

Have a great day!!!

09-09-2008, 07:47 PM
What's up PIC's????

It's finally cooled off here. Fog and overcast today. I love it!!!

Petra~ How goes the FF?? Btw, try the 0 fat yogurt from Fage. It's actually really creamy. Hope you're doing well!

Curly~ How's school going? You better be making time for yourself, as best you can. Good Luck!


09-14-2008, 08:40 PM

yes.. I am having my start of the semester...why am I doing this to myself... panic.. started writing papers at 730 am today and just stopped... my brain was getting mooshy...

figured out last night I will be a 2012 graduate... if I last till then :lol:

still stuck... weight not moving... sigh

sound like a broken record here don't I?

everynight I tell myself gotta get up in the am and walk...

morning comes.. alarm goes off.. and I say sleeep must have sleep...

date? whats that? lmao

soooooooo how is everyone?

09-18-2008, 10:05 AM
Hey guys. Me and WW just didn't work out. I gave up on it after about a month. I'm trying Sonoma again. There is something about that plan that keeps attracting me back to it. It just seems so sensible but we will see what happens. Still doing yoga and pilates several times a week when it fits my schedule.

I've had a small taste of hurricanes here. I also found out I will never be able to leave during a hurricane which is not really a surprise. I was locked down in the hospital during Gustave. A friend took my dogs.

Curly-school will go faster than you think. Hang in there. It will be worth it.

09-19-2008, 12:08 AM
hmmm I was thinking about WW online program... been trying to get back into my walking, I am back up to two miles every other day. never have made it back to my ladies workout express... and here lately seems like the weight is just packing back on.. I don't know if its from menopause or what but geeez.

09-20-2008, 08:29 PM
Curly-on the Sonoma site there is a lady who has lost 80 lbs. She eats the same thing every day. I thought about you and how well you did when you ate the same thing every day. I'm amazed at people who can do that. maybe that is part of why this is so hard for me-I crave variety. One of the nice things about Sonoma is I should never get bored on this diet unless I want to but it could make it more challenging.

09-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Did I scare you all away?

09-25-2008, 03:01 PM
Thank heavens, I found you all (along with 60 pounds of junk in my trunk, 2 love handles, and a closet of clothes that don't fit me... Yes, was singing that).

It's been a long, long time ladies, and now that I found myself and put on my big girl panties, I desperately needed to find my PICs. I could write you all a novel, but it sounds like a really bad Lifetime movie.

Would it be okay with all y'all if I came back to this site? I really missed you all, but I want to make sure I am not intruding. You women truly are amazing, and ladies to look up to, sticking together, and hanging in here together. WOW!

I am so happy I could dance (except my cubicle rattles and shakes the computer monitor of the undernourished soul on the other side of the wall (who just offered me a homemade organic nourishment bar that is truly made with sticks and dried leaves of plants from their hiking trip) Uh, ok...

Have a great day everyone! (((HUGS))))

09-25-2008, 09:19 PM
of course you can come back!!! It would be nice to see some of the old PICs back. This is not the active forum it once was but you are certainly welcome, jump right in. The more the merrier.

09-26-2008, 12:07 AM
Hey ladies,

L2L~ Welcome back!!!! The more the merrier. I'd love to get this joint hoppin' again!

:hug: Curly and Petra :)

So things are about the same here. I've been more lenient with myself and have to get back to my basics. I'm still sitting at 208..... but now it is my low weight whereas a couple weeks ago it was the highest end of my average. I seem to be hitting 208-209.5. Not a huge fluctuation, but I don't like seeing that jump none the less. SOOOOO I'm journaling as of tomorrow, and I'm going to vow to walk at least 3 times this week.

Thanks for being there girls!!!!!!

09-30-2008, 08:56 PM
Alright, where are all the PIC chicks? Hope everyone is doing okay.
I have to say I'm glad I joined the Sonoma website. There isn't a lot going on there either but there is more than what goes on in the Sonoma/Med forum here. It has a couple other nice features that I think are worth the $4/month. I've decided for Oct. I'm going to start a support thread in that forum even if I have to post to myself. We'll see if anyone comes and talks to me.

09-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Hey there L2L welcome back!

Well Dee I have come to a decision as nothing fits me anymore and even the nrewly purchased 22's are cutting into my waist... I guess I had an epiphany the other day in the store hunting clothes.... and I said all the cute clothes are 18's and I remembered when 18's were toooo big!!!!

I swear I am afraid to get on the scale .. So tonight I made myself go out and walk.. and the weird thing is once I get going .. I am like wow I have missed this so much... and start singing the BINGO song to keep my pace!

So yes.. I am gonna take your advice.. make time for me...

I know my problem is that I have to be totally focused on losing weight.. and I have to have a goal...
so... I have a friend that I met online back in 1999, I always teased him about when we were gonna met and go on a date.. and he would always say .. when i retire.. well his best friend who is our same age passed away and it made me think .. we really need to bump that date up and he agreed.... well needless to say I must unchunk before I can even think of meeting him in person sooooo

I said ok we will go out in the spring .. so i gotta get cracking!

school- sigh what can I say .. I am getting deep in debt ... taking classes i am really not enjoying.. I swear if I wasn't so close to being done I would quit.. by the time I get done I will be at least 25,000 in debt, it's creating too much stress and my job is nothing but stress...

ok .. I feel better now!

Petra, you really didnt like ww? I'm thinking about the online deal, cuz my health insurance will give me a good discount on it...

well mostly my problem now is lack of exercise cuz remember back I used to be able to eat a lot of food and still lose... Maybe I should go back and see my menus from fit day...

10-01-2008, 09:57 AM
I really can't buy into the fat free thing at this point. I'll eat low fat but fat free is just going too far for me. Also, there is nothing that says you have to eat processed food on WW but there is certainly nothing that discourages it either. I just have philosophical problems with it. I suppose you could probably find a way to make it work if you tried.

I went over 100,000 into debt for my education and am still paying for it almost 10 years later. I still believe it was worth it.

I go to a new nursing home today for the first time. I'm stressing about that a little but I have been very good about taking my lunch. I know what I'm taking today too so I won't have any excuse to eat junk. So far, I'm still losing slowly and steadily. One of the interesting things I found on the Sonoma website, many of the success stories they have are of middle aged people. Clearly, this is a program that people my age can do successfully.

10-01-2008, 09:12 PM
ok checking in... walked again tonight gonna work my way back up to my 3 miles... bout 1.5 tonight, then when it gets cooler in the daytime will start walking at lunch... I get an hr for lunch so can get some miles in there

that fat free stuff is full of carbs or sugar or both! I am still a big advocate for HIGH PROTEIN... I saw the difference today when I started the day with 2 boiled eggs no sugar cravings at all and stayed satisfied till @ 1 pm took a sandwich of ham and cheese on high fiber whole wheat... its 10 carbs for 2 slices

my other fav is sugar free pb with smuckers no sugar strawberry jam.. I think the hardest thing to do is to get back to that zone where you eat cuz you are hungry... not just to eat... but gonna try to get straight...

Petra I guess 25k isnt too bad.. I was lucky I had 2 AA degrees and between the two a lot of the classes transfered...

ok gonna try to report my walking each night... working my way up to getting back to the gym :cheer:

10-05-2008, 09:15 PM
hmmmmmmmmm looks around..... see's no pic's

10-06-2008, 08:57 AM
Hey Curly. I'm here. I didn't have the best weekend. I overate on Saturday-all healthy food but too much of it.

Took the dogs to get blessed yesterday for the feast of St. Francis. They did pretty good.

I've decided to experiment with the internet dating thing for a month or two. The problem is, I'm actually ambivalent about this. I'm perfectly content being alone which is probably not helpful in this process. I guess I better get ready for work.

10-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Be careful .... lol the engineer (?) I dated thru an internet dating site is now in jail in fl because he has 3 wives and no divorces :lol: but you never know.... I hear ya.. not much extra time for dating here either!

10-10-2008, 07:23 PM
How are all the PIC chicks doing? I'm still up my 4 lbs from last weekend which I'm annoyed about because I have been pretty much OP all week. I guess it will come off when it wants to.

I have a bite on the internet dating thing. Not sure if it is going anywhere yet. I'm doing the eharmony thing which is interesting. They have it arranged so you can exchange pretty innocuous information for awhile first before having direct contact. We are still in that stage-deciding if we have enough in common to want to talk to each other. He lives close by. I'll let you know what happens. As I said, not sure I'm really into this.

10-14-2008, 10:15 PM
hey PIC chicks, we fell off the first page. Time for you all to come back and post.

10-20-2008, 01:08 PM
Hi Ladies,

I've been in a computer funk lately. It's hard to imagine going from my addiction of 18 hours a day to not even turning on my puter for 3-4 days at a time. It seems even when I do check what's going on here, or my email I just can't even make myself respond to anyone. So anyway.............

I'm sitting at 205 right now. Been up and down for a couple weeks but all in all i'm ok with what's going on. I had my blood draw, and an appt with Dr. next week.... ackkkk. They've been talking about insulin the last couple visits, and I'm still not very well controlled so maybe I'll stop being a baby about it and give it a try. :shrug: (Heh, this is what my mood has been like the last few weeks.... just :shrug::shrug::shrug: at everything.

How's the internet meeting going Petra? :hug: You know that's where I met lee. Yup Yup Yup.... not a dating site tho. It was during my heavy chat addiction period lol.....

And Curly :hug: How have you been doing? And school????

well... hope you're both fabulous and happy. Will try to get over this whatever is up with me and post again soon.


10-20-2008, 08:23 PM
eharmony not so good but a coworker introduced me to a free site that has been a bit more fruitful. I think there even may be a date in my near future. I haven't been out on a date in so long I'm not sure I remember how to act, LOL.

I'm really surprised you need insulin considering how much weight you have lost.

10-20-2008, 08:46 PM
I'v been doing Metformin with Beyetta which did help but my readings are still averaging 140-150 (my guess since strips are so freakin' expensive and I only check a couple time per week). It's been as low as 118, but more often my AM reading is closer to 170-200+. I know if I would get off my lardbutt and exercise I could totally turn things around Mary, but I just can't seem to make myself do it.

WOW I HAVE to break this funk. Just look at me whine lol. It's been a long long time since I've been this low......

LOL!! dating!! It's so ackward. Then again, I have always been a social misfit ;) Sometimes I really miss it tho. Have fun with it GF!!!!


10-23-2008, 09:58 AM
Well girls, I have a date for tomorrow night. He's left it up to me to decide where to go so I have to pick somewhere today. Haven't done this in years. Hope it goes okay. He sounds like a really nice guy on the phone. Very southern.

10-24-2008, 01:05 AM
Yikes Petra!!!! Relax, be comfortable, Have Fun!!!

Good Luck!!!!!

10-26-2008, 08:42 AM
Date went pretty well. I think there will be a second one. He is a really nice guy but I have a lot more education than he has. He doesn't seem to be too bothered by that right now. I have a feeling this will end up being more of an issue for him than me but we will see.

10-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Yayyyy petra!! It's great you hit it off. Hopefully the education thing won't be huge. As long as you can talk and connect that's the important thing, I think.

I went to the dr today.... everything is down!!! weight, cholesterol, A1c, BP :) I'm happy :carrot:

Slow and Steady

Hope you guys are well! HUGS

10-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Good job Dee. Keep up the good work. So far the education thing is not a big deal but it is early.

11-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Hey ladies, we fell off the first page!

11-02-2008, 11:10 PM
yikes!!! sorry. We've had some nasty- but welcome- weather. Rain and clouds.... The satellite went down for TWO freakin' days!!!! Oh well, I started a good book ;)

My sis sent me a Body Bugg.... I've just gotten it all registered and I think it's working... but since I haven't been able to get online I haven't been able to really check it out. She got it then promptly sat in her hot tub with it.... lol. She ordered a new one and we think this one dried out ok so I'm going to give it a try. We'll see.....

So, how'r things going for all the pic's?

I'll be back tomorrow. My mood, my emotional side is pretty much back in check now. Everything is looking better!!! I'm seeing a half full glass again :)

Hope to hear good things from you ladies!!!

:grouphug: Dee~

11-03-2008, 05:59 PM
As my internet date and I get to know each other better, the less optimistic I am about this. Oh well. I've said all along that if I was going to find a man at this point in my life, he would have to fall in my lap and sweep me off my feet. That certainly hasn't happened yet.

I'm still pretty much on plan with my eating, approaching the 2 month mark. I feel pretty good about that.

11-08-2008, 09:52 AM
Hi guys..

4 more weeks till I get my sanity back! next semester only 2 classes! Ha what was I thinking working full time and taking 4 classes!!! crazy girl!

sigh men... a lot of trouble! I was seeing a guy I dated in my younger years but I've gotten to the point I just can't tolerate him, If I am online working on my classes he has some crass remark to make about how I live online..... And he is educated!

remember the guy that i used to walk with? but he got back together with his old gf? got an email asking how i was doing so maybe she ditched him again.....

anyways... i could use a hiking partner again...

I am hoping that after dec 6th things can calm down for me after finals...

work is going well.. think i will be getting a promotion in feb!

whats up with you guys?

Petra any romance? Dee you feeling better?

I had to buy 2 bags for dried beans for a biology lab so I think I will try to make soup with them can't just throw away 4$ worth of beans ...

maybe I can plant them and grow a magic bean stalk!!!!!!

11-09-2008, 09:50 AM
Curly, I love the magic bean stalk idea. I sent you a yahoo message.

I got pretty fed up with this guy this week and told him so but he then got very apologetic. I've decided to give him a second chance but he is going to have to show me he's worth the effort here.

I've been doing my sonoma/mediterranean thing for almost two months. I've lost 11 lbs. Certainly not winning any records for speed but I suppose that isn't the point. I'm finding it very livable and that is probably the more important thing. I'm on call this week. Have to go to work today.

11-09-2008, 11:14 PM
well chai liked the beans ... i didnt care for them much! better go get some sleep .. I have to be in court for work all day tomorrow! petra.. add me as lisa_kay_001

11-10-2008, 09:26 AM
I have to go to court as part of my job too. Don't particularly like it but they do pay us extra to do it.

11-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Hey Girls,

I'm headed out the door to the dentist... Think of me as weird but I love going to the dentist lol. I lost most of a filling which was actually most of the tooth :shrug:... I'm getting a new bed for the guest room today. It is really nice. And, since I sleep in there on my bad snoring nights I'm pretty excited about that too.

I'll do more here when I get back....

I'm feeling much better and I miss you guys ;)

:grouphug: Dee~