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12-13-2007, 11:06 AM
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Boston Qualifier and MOM
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The problem with Volumetrics....
I dont follow volumetrics the book, but when I am eating healthily it is very similar. Lots of veggies that really bulk out a meal for very few calories. Salads, soups, etc.
The problem comes when I go off plan. My stomach isnt shrinking, its stretching. Now when I DO have a binge I can do so much more damage. I can eat more without feeling any physical discomfort.
hmmmm.... of course the IDEAL solution would be to figure out why I binge and stop that
Not really looking for any suggestions, just making an observation.
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12-13-2007, 12:18 PM
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Moderating Mama
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I run into the same problem! 19/20 meals I eat at home - control the calories, fill up on tons of veggies, and yes, have giant portions. For the 1/20 meals I eat out, I have to be SO careful not to overeat...my home portion size is WAY different from what I should be eating in a restaurant.
Still, I'd rather than 1/20 meals be a little high than to feel like I'm getting starved the other 19/20, ya know?
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12-13-2007, 12:25 PM
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3 + years maintaining
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I also load up on tons and tons of veggies. But luckily, I'm still at the point when I do go off plan, planned - or unplanned, that I simply can not eat as much as I used to. Or even close. Or even close to close. And boy, it's a good thing. It amazes me. Even if I want to keep going, I simply can't. That's just how much pain my stomach gets into. I know though, that if I keep pushing it - that my stomach WILL start to stretch again. And that TERRIFIES me.
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12-13-2007, 12:28 PM
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Just Yr Everyday Chick
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Florida
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Interesting observation. I've simply gotten used to eating less food! I fill up a LOT faster now--I couldn't eat a full meal at most restaurants if I had to.
Here's an interesting study:
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...articlekey=648
It says that stomach capacity may actually shrink, but also stretch sensors in the stomach become more sensitive again, when one reduces food intake.
Jay
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12-13-2007, 12:42 PM
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Moderator
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Interesting article, Jay!
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12-13-2007, 12:51 PM
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3 + years maintaining
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Yes, interesting article.
It doesn't surprise me though. I am well aware of just how much my stomach has shrunk. The only thing that does surprise me, is that there were such drastic results in only 4 weeks time. The truth is, it could have been that quickly for me, though I doubt it. I just don't remember.
I'm surely though, that just as quickly as it shrinks, it can EXPAND once again - just as quickly. My luck - probably quicker.
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12-13-2007, 01:16 PM
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Just Me
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It may depend if you practice volumetrics with 3 largish meals per day or if you spread out using small meals during the day. I personally use the smaller meal per day method and it is hard for me to eat a lot when I eat out because I'm used to smaller meals.
I don't follow volumetrics but I do tend to eat a lot of fiber (A LOT) and things that volumetrics teaches.
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12-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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Just Yr Everyday Chick
Join Date: May 2004
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Hey rockinrobin,
I think there were such drastic results in 4 weeks' time because it was a pretty drastic program--600 cals a day! Of course, the participants were under medical supervision. And, the average weight lost was a bit over 18 pounds in those 4 weeks, which is pretty darned swift.
It would be interesting if they do a follow-up study on the same people to see what happens to them afterward.
But it does show one reason why gorging oneself is such a bad idea...
Jay
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12-13-2007, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
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Ennay, I've noticed the exact same thing and has been a niggling worry recently. I don't specifically follow volumetrics, but I do eat as large a quantity of food as I can within my calorie budget (so, many, many veggies). It's all very well and good when there are plenty of veggies to fill up on, but when there aren't, well, I eat rather alot. Actually, I suspect that, cup for cup, I eat more food now (and certainly more often) than I did when I was overweight.
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12-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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Boston Qualifier and MOM
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Well and lets compound my "problem" with marathon training and nursing. In August my maintenance calories were around 2700/day. Even spread out over 6-7 meals it was A LOT of food. Coming back down to earth has been really hard.
But I have noticed times when my normal breakfast stuffs me and times when my normal breakfast ...I am starving by 8 am.
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12-13-2007, 07:26 PM
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I rarely eat out, or when I do, there is a salad bar, so I am not really sure what would happen. I do have to say that filling up on veggies, soup etc a la volumtrics has made loosing weight much less painful, mentally and physically than other diets I have tried. I can see myself eating this way forever. I can't see myself eating thimble sized portions forever.
I probably eat more volume of food than I did before I started loosing. It might be all in my head, but I feel like having a stomach full of spinach, bean sprouts and tomatoes makes me less likely to want to binge on something calorie dense. I also think that not letting myself get too hungry is very important. I guess, like a lot of things, it's a trade off.
Ennay, it must have been fun eating 2700 calories a day.....sigh.
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12-13-2007, 10:22 PM
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Boston Qualifier and MOM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gailr42
Ennay, it must have been fun eating 2700 calories a day.....sigh.
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Sadly, when the body NEEDED 2700 calories a day it WANTED 3500. It really wasnt as much easier as you would think.
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12-13-2007, 10:42 PM
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Senior Member
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Volume has always been a problem for me. I want to eat. Alot. All at once. And spread out over several times a day. I just want to eat like a horse!
I need a way of convincing all the parts of my brain that I don't need to be constantly stuffing my face with a ton of food.
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