Does it Work? - Finally! An all natural appetite suppressant without stimulants?????

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/le/naturalappetitecontrol.html

I came across this while surfing. Now I have read other sites that talk about pine nuts reducing appetite naturally, and it seems like this product just has pine nuts in it, so it would be safe, yes? Who knows, just thought I'd throw that out there. :D What do you ladies think?

In my opinion, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

I'm not saying it replaces a healthy diet, but those few, like myself, who naturally cannot suppress appetite through protein for example, and do not emotionally eat, it might be a nice supplement to take along with a healthy diet and exercise plan. It just might be true after all; there is tons of research on the web about it being great as a supplement:

web md http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20060328/pine-nut-oil-cut-appetite
wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut_oil
medicinenet here http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=60784 I really think I'm onto something, if even doctors verify this :D wow

Korean pine nut oil. Jennifer bought some after her nutritionist suggested it, and will report her results in a few days :) Though it's important to note that her nutritionist receives a kickback from the product :chin:

interesting - yeah I think I'm gonna try some myself. Since I know 100% the real thing works for me (toasting pine nuts for a salad), I bet the oil would work too. I just think it would be more cost effective than paying $6 for a little bag of pine nuts.

Are Korean pine nuts the same thing as the ones we buy at our local grocery stores? I'm not familiar enough with them to know. And as far as I know, it's just the Korean pine nut oil that has the appetite suppressing properties - if it's actually true. Keep in mind that supplement manufacturers can say anything and they don't have to prove it. It's an unregulated industry. :shrug:

If you try it, please let us know what you think :)

Suzanne - the "pine nuts" we buy in the store aren't always the Korean pine nuts, but that is one of the most common varieties grown for consumption. So they are often the same ones as you buy at the store.

Hey Suzanne, I can't say if they are Korean or not, cause I only see Fidelgio's (sp??) pine nuts at the store, and those are the ones that I toast a couple tbsp to toss over my salad I was talking about; I would think that a pine nut is a pine nut ya know, regardless of where it came from. It's just a seed I believe, no it's the pineolic acid (I totally don't know how to spell that lol) specifically that has the appetite suppressing properties, whether or not its Korean. I looked at Kroger signature and Walgreens just cause it's night and I'm too lazy to go to GNC at 9pm ;) but no dice. I'll go this weekend for sure, and keep you guys posted. The links I posted were just a handful of sites not selling the stuff but had some interesting things to say about it, especially webmd and medicinenet. Neat.

well I got some today yeahhhh and I discovered on webmd and other sites that it is specifically the pinolenic acid that suppresses the appetite, which is present in any pine nut, regardless of where it came from. I was starving, but then took three of these babies, and the hunger pains are g-o-n-e. You're supposed to take them right before a meal, so of course I'm going to continue taking them. We'll see....

Please keep us posted with your results. My main problem with sticking to a diet is feeling hungry. Where did you buy it?
Thanks,
Donna

http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?xs=86EDBFBAE2E8493D9AC76949817C068E&PID=1754&CID=&CPID=2994

this is exactly what I have, it's just pine nut oil capsules, 100% natural. I got mine from vitamin world, but gnc or any health food store carries it. the bottle says to take 3 capsules immediately before a meal. I also take one capsule of metamucil (natural psyllium fiber) with a glass of water before a meal, which also helps a lot. :) And since it's just pine nut oil, I don't foresee any reaction with the fiber, so I likely will be taking them together. I'm feeling a little fuller now, still hungry of course (it's been 7 hours since I ate last) but it sure is keeping me from snacking. I will continue to post my progress for sure. Oh I almost forgot, I also started taking a daily vitamin, I wasn't taking them before and I know I should.

I don't want to hurt my reputation as Cynical Sue, so I have to throw out the following: :p

We've heard about pine nut oil for appetite suppression for a couple of years, but we've yet to hear of anyone actually seeing any benefit. Also, if it really was as good as they say, why isn't it a highly recommended product? So far, most of the recommendations come from those with financial stake in the product.

AND it looks like the only study done involved just 18 subjects, and was conducted by the manufacturer and not an independent organization.

It is recommended to take 3 grams 30 minutes before eating a meal. Subjects reported 29% less hunger (I think that was it, could have been 27). I'm not sure how they come up with a figure like that :lol:

One caveat: The vast majority of people do not overeat due to appetite. We surveyed over 10,000 people to find out why they overate. Was it due to true, physical hunger? Or was it due to stress, boredom, or other emotional eating patterns. Only 6% said they ate due to real hunger. Those are going to be the only people that benefit from an appetite suppressant, natural or not.

I've been eating pine nuts the last couple of days. While I must admit it has helped me stop myself from snacking, I've been wondering if the 190 calories is worth it in the long run. :D I also wonder for how long it will work, lol.

What I've been doing is measuring out a serving, then dividing it up into three portions. I eat one portion about 15 minutes or so before my meal, and it does seem to help keep me from snacking inbetween meals.

I'll keep you posted as to whether this continues to work or not. :carrot: I wish there was a lower calorie alternative, though. ;)

I tried a bottle of Nutrabolics Super Fats (http://www23.netrition.com/nutrabolics_super_fats.html), with pinolenic acid from Korean pine nuts. Unfortunately, it did absolutely nothing for me so far as appetite suppression. And I'm one who overeats because I'm hungry, so I was really hoping for a miracle. Darn it!!

Steels,

There are tons of low calorie natural appetite suppressants. Anything with fiber is a natural appetite suppressants. Veggies are a great example of that. If you snacked on carrots, celery, cucumbers, etc before eating a meal, it would help fill you up and eat less calories during your meal.

Liquids are also great for filling you up naturally. Eating a low calorie soup such as a veggie soup before a meal would also act as a natural appetite supreesant.

Well, I would think it is obvious "cynical sue" ;) that emotional eaters are not going to benefit from a suppressant. Nor would people who continue to eat after they are full. I however am not one of them, which is a good thing :D For those of us who truly are hungry, and truly need some help, though I think it's a grand idea. Meg I'm not familiar with that product but I can tell you that I take 3000 mg of pine nut oil caps, no other additives in it, with my lunch and dinner meal, and boy does it help. I'm talking instant fullness. Now for lunch I have steamed broccoli or fresh green beans and carrots with a lean cuisine meal, and 2 clementines or a thick and creamy light yogurt. then, I'm still hungry, so I'll have one metamucil capsule, and 3 pine nut oil capsules (1000 mg each) and man, five minutes later I'm so stuffed lol. Not even five. I tried it without the pine nut oil caps just to see how much of that fullness was the metamucil, and then just having a tall glass of water too, and not much was. It helped though, don't get me wrong. But the pinenut oil is really tremendously helping. I guess the capsules, cause they're the soft kind you know the kind that almost instantly dissolves, softgels, kick in like immediately. But I have to do both the metamucil and the pine nut oil. I don't even want to see food for a good four hours at least. It is really helping me behave a lot, and all without the jitters or dangerous stuff. So try both and see what that does for you, I bet you'll find success too. :) Oh and guys...I've lost two lbs in the last two days I've been doing this, and staying steady at 1600-1800 cals a day. :D :D :D

by the way Meg that supplement only has 15% pinoleic acid, so I bet that's why it didn't work. I just got the real deal, no additives, nothing but the oil itself and it's also a much higher % of it. (see my link above to vitamin world where I got mine, but I'm sure any health food store has it). Worth a shot :D

And Steele, the pine nut oil softgels are going to do a lot more for you than the nuts themselves, just cause there's more of the pinoleic acid in the softgels (and they are only 30 cals for 3 softgels as opposed to 180) It's also a lower cost alternative for you, I paid about $15 for 90 softgels from vitamin world.

I just ordered some. I hope it helps!! I read 2 five star reviews on Amazon that sounded good. I need help in the afternoon and before bedtime-that's when I get the snack attacks. The 2 reviewers on Amazon said they only needed to take one capsule and it curbed their appetites.

I received these this week and I have to admit that with the holidays and all the goodies surrounding me, I have not tried them yet. I'll give them a try after Christmas, when I'll be desperately trying to shed the lbs that I gained over the last week or so. Merry Christmas to all!!

So sorry I've been scarce, with the holidays I guess I disappeared lol. Even though I did allow myself treats, I was thinking weight loss was out of the question lol, but whaddya know I STILL lost 8 pounds!!! So that's a total of just over 10 so far that is permanent yeahhh. I'm so totally thrilled...unbelievable. Donna what product did you buy btw? I just got the all natural 100% softgels for pine nut oil, but it sounds like you might have gotten something different? Anyhoo, a VERY happy new year to all of you!!! :D Let's rule 2008!!!!

I bought the Life Extensions brand that was on the first link at the beginning of this thread. Each softgel has 1000mg Korean pine nut oil and the "serving size" is 3 softgels. I still haven't given them a really good try yet. I'm gonna take them this afternoon when my afternoon snack attack hits.
I'm glad you found something that helps you! I wish you continued success!
Donna

awesome!

by the way Meg that supplement only has 15% pinoleic acid, so I bet that's why it didn't work. I just got the real deal, no additives, nothing but the oil itself and it's also a much higher % of it. (see my link above to vitamin world where I got mine, but I'm sure any health food store has it). Worth a shot :D

And Steele, the pine nut oil softgels are going to do a lot more for you than the nuts themselves, just cause there's more of the pinoleic acid in the softgels (and they are only 30 cals for 3 softgels as opposed to 180) It's also a lower cost alternative for you, I paid about $15 for 90 softgels from vitamin world.

I contacted Vitamin World to ask how much pinolenic acid was in their pine nut oil product and they finally answered me today. She said pine nut oil does not standardize pinolenic acid; however, it may naturally occur in the plant material. Since this is not a standardized product, they do not guaranteed it is present in any amount or that it contains pinolenic acid. This is standard to the industry.

So I guess this is going to be one of those situations where it doesn't matter what brand you buy and it's a roll of the dice from one capsule to the next. Unfortunately, this is the case with most supplements as an unregulated industry. :shrug:

Well that's nothing new, IMO pine nut oil isn't like, caffeine or a dangerous supplement, and it doesn't cost a lot either, so to each his own if they wanna try it. Alls I know is, for me at least, it's working. I am one of many, I'm sure, that have tried diets in the past but just couldn't succeed cause I couldn't reduce the amount of food I ate and I couldn't stay in my caloric limit. I always went over regardless of drinking a glass of water with each meal, or eating more protein, etc. And like we always say, what works for one might not work for the other. I can't speak for everybody who has taken pine nut oil, but for me, it works. I haven't not once gone over my cal limit since I started taking it together with the fiber. Fiber alone wasn't cutting it, so that's why I added the pine nut oil in the first place. And it works for me. I guess to me, as long as there are no dangerous side effects, and it works, it's okay to take. a note on Vitamin World though....I went there yesterday to get some more fiber, and the lady had no idea what I was talking about. I had to find it on my own LOL. Yeah, real knowledgable hahaha.

But I would agree it's not regulated, that's a given to anything where the FDA is not involved. Just like for some extra protein does the trick, to another maybe drinking more water helps, and to another it might be that emotional hunger right, not actual physical stomach growling hunger. for the life of me I can't remember who said this, but I read on this site that finding what works for you is really just trial and error, cause all of our bodies are different. I know I am doing a few things different this time around that, for the first time in 7 years, I've found what works for me. And those things are: drinking lots of green tea at night (fresh brewed no sweeteners), taking fiber and pine nut oil caps, and having a ratio of 1 protein-3 veggies with lunch and dinner (for ex, however much meat I have, 3 oz usually, I eat three times that amount with fresh or steamed veggies, keeps meal cals low but filling), and no eating after 8pm except for green tea or hot tea or fresh fruit. do I like taking pills - nope. do I feel it is helping me at least now in the begininng? yes. but sure, it may not help everybody. and it is good to be reminded to be realistic, that it really is a roll of the dice. :D