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cecil
11-19-2007, 01:48 PM
I have a question for all you ladies. I am a newbie for sure just sarted 10/31/07. I am still within my first 4 weeks. So for the first 4 weeks I am trying not to drink. However when that is up I am definately thinking about going out and celebrating how good I have been and having a few drinks. He he. Any suggestions for my night out. Of course I am planning on staying POP. So any suggestions for what would be best to drink. And is it bad to save all my starches and fruits for drinking? Thanks for any advice I appreciate it! :dizzy:


Time for a change
11-19-2007, 02:16 PM
As for the alcohol, how about a White Wine Spritzer? A little white wine in a tall glass of ice, fill with club soda & add a squeeze of lime. It's about as low cal & low carb as you'll get. Just remember though that your body will burn the alcohol for energy and save the calories from your food as fat. So you'll want to do a little extra exercise to burn off the excess calories from the alcohol.

Stardutchess
11-19-2007, 02:19 PM
Cecil, I'm not on the same diet plan you are, but I'm in the same boat. When I go out I usually bring those Crystal Light packets with me. They are delicious mixed with vodka. And, since vodka comes in so many flavors it doesn't get boring.


BarbaraB
11-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Cecil, I have definitely saved fruits and starches for a few drinks. I think they say 3 per week max to be considered POP, and mostly I try to stay in that limit, but I suppose I've gone a bit over a time or two, especially when I was on vacation. 1 light beer is just one starch. I don't know if the new plans have that 3 per week limit, but I do think it is a good way to moderate yourself.

Dan2112
11-19-2007, 03:01 PM
The plan allows for you to exchange one fruit for a glass of wine and two starches for a beer... (If I recall correctly)...

However, this is not an excuse to give up your daily starches and fruits to have multiple drinks in one setting... That's how the WW people get into trouble by saving their points for the bad stuff..

This early on in your program, your body will be less forgiving for going off plan for a night... If you have multiple drinks, don't be surprised if you go up a bit or at least not lose much... I'd keep it to one or two drinks at the most.. And then make sure you get plenty of water the next day to help rehydrate your system...

Joni135
11-19-2007, 03:08 PM
Cecil - you won't like what I'm going to say, but alcohol is the reason I have only lost 15 lbs in 16 months. I won't give it up. And I'm not a lush, but maybe one time a week I have a few beers (okay, may four or five, but they are light!). Then the next day, I want food and then the 2 lbs I lost that week are back on.

If you follow the plan (or at least the plan I was on), you are only allowed 3 drinks per week and 1 light beer = 1 starch; 1 oz of hard liquor = 1 starch and one 3 oz glass of wine =1 fruit. Maybe if you stick to these amounts, you'll be okay. I'm not sure how many fruits and starches you get, but you definitely have to count the alcohol as part of those daily servings (that's what my program book says).

Okay, Dan and I were posting at the same time...he's much wiser than I am and, obviously, been way more successful. Do what he says!

QueenLucia
11-19-2007, 03:20 PM
Yup - alchol really affects some - and I am one of those...I usually save my two little fruits and have 6 oz of wine...the next day I am up two lbs and it takes me all week to get rid of that.... but, once in a while it is sooo worth it...we just have to keep on living, no matter what otherwise we will give up --- and that would be worse.
Moderation in everything...

BarbaraB
11-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Dan, regular beer = 2 starches and light beer = 1 starch

1 glass of wine is generally 2 fruits, since 3 ounces is not much, but if you have a wine spritzer, I think that would count as one fruit, since you don't get much wine in there.

If you are sticking with the 3 drinks or less per week and fit them into your exchanges you can totally be successful losing weight. It is best to not try to have all 3 drinks in one night (especially if you are at a party with a lot of food available). Bad judgement almost always follows that.

Lynx
11-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Cecil, I have definitely saved fruits and starches for a few drinks. I think they say 3 per week max to be considered POP, and mostly I try to stay in that limit, but I suppose I've gone a bit over a time or two, especially when I was on vacation. 1 light beer is just one starch. I don't know if the new plans have that 3 per week limit, but I do think it is a good way to moderate yourself.

Just chiming in to say that the new plans have the same limits - consume infrequently- alcohol up to 3 times a week.

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cecil
11-19-2007, 04:06 PM
You guys that was a lot of great information... of course I am kinda bummed. But Does 3 times per week mean 3 drinks per week or only drink within the program 3 times per week? I am confused. This is what I was planning and by what you guys said sounds like it's not on program. Ugh! 3 3oz glasses of wine. 2 shots or Tequila and 2 Bacardi diets. I am awating a response I am sure it won't be what I want to hear. But thanks for all of your thoughts and information it is greatly appreciated!

marzbe
11-19-2007, 04:08 PM
I have saved the starches all day so I could enjoy several Bacardi and Diet cokes one night. :devil: (Okay, it was my baby cousin's Sweet 16 and she had 80 something classmates I needed those Bacardi and Diet Cokes to make it through the evening :dizzy:) What I could tell you is, me who was known to out drink my college guy friends, woke up the next morning with a HANGOVER! Lesson learned--savign starches for liquor consumption is not smart, I should've gone over a starch and at least had something in my system to absorb the liquor.

What I do now is I order a cosmo or a sea breeze, and count it as a fruit and a starch, the fruit juice slows down the liquor and I can sit and sip my drink. I've also saved 2 fruits and mixed 6 ounces of sangria in a hurricane glass with seltzer and ice, then I can sip it through a staw over several hours.

Worse comes to worse pour some Crystal Lite into a martini glass and have yourself psychollogically belive you're dirnking liquor. I do that with Diet Cranberry Gingerale quite frequently, it's all about the psychological aspect.

BarbaraB
11-19-2007, 05:39 PM
Cecil, I always took it to mean 3 drinks per week.

Joni135
11-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Cecil - good try, but it means you only can have a total of 3 drinks in a one week period. You can have one drink on three separate days or have all three drinks on one day...but that's it. I'm still trying to figure out how the French stay so thin and drink wine at most of their meals????

cecil
11-19-2007, 06:50 PM
Ha ha ha! I figured so. Ugh! Very frustrating. I don't know how I am going to do this? I guess I didn't know what I was getting my self into. 16 days of no drinking I think that's the longest I've ever went. I guess it will be good for me. But I don't know that I like it all to much. Wish me luck!

Dan2112
11-19-2007, 07:13 PM
You guys that was a lot of great information... of course I am kinda bummed. But Does 3 times per week mean 3 drinks per week or only drink within the program 3 times per week? I am confused. This is what I was planning and by what you guys said sounds like it's not on program. Ugh! 3 3oz glasses of wine. 2 shots or Tequila and 2 Bacardi diets. I am awating a response I am sure it won't be what I want to hear. But thanks for all of your thoughts and information it is greatly appreciated!

Cecil, I'm gonna sound like a hardass here, so I apologize in advance...

The only way this plan works is if you follow it too the letter. A few months from now, as your body is better able to handle it, an infrequent cheat won't affect you that much, but for now, you gotta stick to it.

In college, I played rugby and joined a fraternity - both of which are associated with drinking.. In recent years as professional and family life took precidence, my drinking waned, but I still would drink when out with friends or hanging with the guys. On weekends, I'd usually have a couple of beers after the kids went to bed...

My point is that it was hard to give up, but I was so bound and determined to lose weight that it became easier than I thought it would. After a month or so, I didn't miss it at all and it became a real treat to have a couple small glasses of wine or the occasional beer...

What I'm saying is that you have to exercise some willpower and just deal with the fact that you can't maintain ANY of the kind of consumption you're used to, whether it's food or drink. The reward is that after a night out with your pals, if you stick to the plan, you will not onle reap the rewards of not gaining weight, you'll feel AWESOME about your ability to say no. The mental rewards are mandatory to make the physical rewards tangible.

Just do it.. If I can, you can...

cecil
11-19-2007, 08:32 PM
Dan, I don't think you sound like a hardass at all. I know that I have to stick to it like glue. Although when I started I guess I didn't realize that I would have to limit alcohol too. Now that I am doing it it's not so terribly hard but I do miss being able to go out. And I am sad to say I don't know what there is to do besides going out and going out to eat? ha ha! Anyway I know I can do this and I will. Thanks for being honest. Oh and by the way when I started this thread I didn't mean to leave you out by saying ladies. Thanks for the advice. I will stay strong and not drink. Ugh!

Dan2112
11-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Don't worry about the ladies thing.. I get that a lot.. :lol:

There's nothing to say you can't go out... I know it's hard not to "go with the crowd", but it's a learned behavior.. You can still go out, but now you just can't overdo it.. Have your glass of wine and then stick to diet soda or water the rest of the night.. It seems weird at first, but you'll get used to it.

And depending on what your friend like to do, "going out" can mean going to work out... Or going to the movies (stay away from the popcorn :lol:), etc etc...

marzbe
11-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Just volunteer yourself as the Designate Driver . . . one glass of wine and you're on to soda because you have to drive. My drinking buddies loved that fact when I was on weight loss. Plus after just one "You puke, you pay for detailing" incident they all found themselves cutting back on drinking too. :whoo: Thus the bar thing was no longer an issue.

IKIF
11-21-2007, 07:23 PM
I'm on the blue plan... and 1 light beer counts as 1 starch and 4oz of wine count as 1 fruit... any 4oz of any type of liquor counts as 1 starch (this was said by the girl at my COD)

so when I go to drink I save 2 fruits, 3 starches for my night out
it's like being on TO lol

cecil
11-23-2007, 04:48 PM
In my book it says one Oz of liquor is 1 starch?
I guess everyone has different information? Huh?

cecil
11-23-2007, 04:58 PM
I just wanted to let you guys know that I asked at my COD. And they said that 3 times a week. Means don't drink more than 3 times a week. But that you can save up your starches and fruits if you have a night out planned and use them for up to 4 drinks and 3 3oz glasses of wine. Of course they don't suggest you do this often but it is considered being POP. So I just thought I would throw that out there. Although I am still sober 20 days! Whoo hoo!

cecil
01-11-2008, 04:19 PM
Just bumping this up for Jill! Thought she might want to take a look!

ChefsGirl
01-11-2008, 05:46 PM
Oh Ceclia -

Thank you so much. I am definately in the same place you were when you started. I keep telling my friends I'm in sequester and I'll be back in a few weeks.

So, I can have 4 drinks on my 1st night out? I can stick to the no more than 3 times a week thing pretty easily. I usually only go out one night on the weekends.

I'm not sure that I can stick to only 4 drinks though! But I am committed to no alcohol for the 1st four weeks. I'm in my second week now.

Lord help me.

cecil
01-11-2008, 06:01 PM
Yeah 4 starches equals 4 drinks. Although if I were you I would have at least 1 starch just so you have food in your stomach. You can also have 3 3oz glasses of wine which isn't much but it will be something to drink for a little bit! Ha ha! Good luck I know you can do it if I did!

Repo girl
01-11-2008, 07:29 PM
I just wanted to let you guys know that I asked at my COD. And they said that 3 times a week. Means don't drink more than 3 times a week. But that you can save up your starches and fruits if you have a night out planned and use them for up to 4 drinks and 3 3oz glasses of wine. Of course they don't suggest you do this often but it is considered being POP. So I just thought I would throw that out there. Although I am still sober 20 days! Whoo hoo!

Just wanted to note that I did this once, saved all of my fruits and all of my starches for a night at the bar. By the time we got to the bar I was STARVING! Just a few drinks into the night I was so trashed I could barely stand, due to my very empty tummy. My DH marched me down the street to Jack In the Box and made me eat a hamburger to slow the alchol down. Of course, I was so messed up that I really didn't care about eating on plan at that point. So, just so you all know, if you do this, make sure to get a big portion of protein in BEFORE you go!

amylou7777
01-12-2008, 01:31 AM
Cecilia- I think you will be surprised at how 1 glass of wine affects you now that you are eating right and not drinking! I didn't know how I was going to stay on plan with the drinking thing either, but now that 2 glasses of wine is more than enough to get me to where I was when I would drink three or four Tanqueray and Tonics...it's kind of fun being a cheap date ;)

ChefsGirl
01-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Thanks Katie, Cecilia & Amy -

I will definately be coming home to eat dinner before heading out for a night. Before, I would just go straight after work and not eat until we were ready to come home. Usually a late-night stop at a drive through. Gross!

Lots of veggies and a couple of portion of protein before I head out. I'm sure I'll be a total light-weight too. This plan is saving me so much money! Seriously, between eating out and partying, I cannot believe how much money I spent. The $449 it cost me to join has more than paid off already and I've only been on plan for 11 days.

The grocery store bills kind of suck though.....

Hope everyone is having a great weekend!

Repo girl
01-12-2008, 04:07 PM
I sure wish that I would listen to my own advice. After I wrote my post last night, I headed out to the Resevation casino for my dad's birthday. We got totally trashed on the way there, before dinner. Not the DD of course! Anyway, one wine and sprite zero spritzer and I was feeling really good. Then I drank a Mike's cranberry lemonade too! So, even though I saved fruits and starches, I still went over. And drank way too much on an empty stomach. Hmmmmm......can I blame peer pressure?

ChefsGirl
01-12-2008, 11:22 PM
Katie -

I'm so jealous. And I think Cecilia is at a wine-tasting tonight.

Me, I'm still in sequester. Until February 1st! I was going to hold out until February 8th, we are going to a concert that night, but I don't think I can. I'm so bored!

I'm going to have to go out and go shopping or something next weekend. But it will be a challenge to not go out to lunch. Must get out of the house!

Tell you what though, my house has never been this clean or organized. ;)

These 1st 4 weeks are brutal!