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Dee72
10-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Can someone tell me why the Special K Protein snack bars are not a good substitute for the Lites, while the Meal bars are?

I have decided to go with the Lites (or some alternative) after getting advice here, but there is only one flavor I can tolerate...peanut butter. My mom is diabetic and was told to eat the Special K snack bars. They are much healthier than the Lites when comparing nutritional information. So, I'm curious why the snack bars are not okay.

Also, do those of you who use Luna bars recommend them? The Amazon special is hard to pass up. But, I've never even heard of them before coming to this site.


Dan2112
10-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Protein content may be a factor.. You need something with at least 8g... Not sure how the special K bars stack up...

I like the South Beach diet cereal bars.. They come in chocolate, peanut butter and oatmeal raisin (I think).. They are 150 calories, have 10g of fiber and taste fantastic...

Hint for the lites.. Microwave the PB bars for about 15 seconds and eat with a fork.. Talk about tasty! Same goes for the smores...

Kim0303
10-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Wow Dan, That sound wonderful. I will definately have to try that. Thanks for the tip.


marzbe
10-09-2007, 05:34 PM
I'll be doing my amazon order later on this week. I'm about 4 boxes short of lites to make it through maintenance and I'm gradually weaning off. For the luna's I usually go with Cookies and Cream, Lemon Zest, or the Choc Peppermint Stick. the S'mores arent' too bad either.

Like Dan, I actually love the South Beach High Protein bars. The cinnamon raisin are my favorite. I can give or take the chocolate but the peanut butter are pretty good too.

Also, the Zone advantage bars are pretty tasty too. Their chocolate mint and coconut almond totally trump the lites.

It's really a matter of taste, after a while you realize what works best for you too.

shshshhh
10-09-2007, 06:42 PM
Protein content may be a factor.. You need something with at least 8g... Not sure how the special K bars stack up...

I like the South Beach diet cereal bars.. They come in chocolate, peanut butter and oatmeal raisin (I think).. They are 150 calories, have 10g of fiber and taste fantastic...

Hint for the lites.. Microwave the PB bars for about 15 seconds and eat with a fork.. Talk about tasty! Same goes for the smores...
Hey Dan

If you are not on a program using the Lites and want to use an occasional SB cereal bar as a treat, do you count them as a starch and a fruit? I need a snack sometimes, can't have soy and was going to check out the SB Cereal Bars since you and others on this board rave about them.

Thanks
Roberta

Lynx
10-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Protein content may be a factor.. You need something with at least 8g... Not sure how the special K bars stack up...

I like the South Beach diet cereal bars.. They come in chocolate, peanut butter and oatmeal raisin (I think).. They are 150 calories, have 10g of fiber and taste fantastic...

Hint for the lites.. Microwave the PB bars for about 15 seconds and eat with a fork.. Talk about tasty! Same goes for the smores...

I like to nuke the double chocolate lites for the 15 seconds and then add 1 serving of fat (almonds or pecans) and some cool whip to top it off. Brownie sundae anyone?

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..

bradleys mom
10-09-2007, 07:33 PM
OMG, Brownie Sundae! What torture!!! Yummy!!!

Lynx
10-09-2007, 07:51 PM
This version of brownie sundae is on program so plan for it and enjoy!!!!!

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..

Dan2112
10-09-2007, 09:14 PM
Hey Dan

If you are not on a program "without lites" and want to use an occasional SB cereal bar as a treat, do you count them as a starch and a fruit? I need a snack sometimes, can't have soy and was going to check out the SB Cereal Bars since you and others on this board rave about them.

Thanks
Roberta


I'm actually on a plan that calls for lites, but all of our LAWL shops closed down because the franchise owner ran the business into the ground.. Even though I had bought bulk lites, Liz and I were left with no way to get them.. It's a long story.. sigh...

I've done a lot of homework investigating what bars would work best for me.. I've found Luna Bars, but not "by the box" and I don't feel like grabbing a handfull of them each week. The Zone perfect bars have a lot of protein, but they are also higher in calories, carbs and sodium.. The Special K bars are a good choice, but I didn't like the taste as much..

As far as I'm concerned, the SB cereal bars are like eating rice crispie treats, but drizzled in chocolate or peanut butter (God's greatest gift to mankind, as far as I'm concerned :lol:)

bradleys mom
10-09-2007, 09:31 PM
:O WOW Lynn Thanks I didnt know that!!!!

shshshhh
10-10-2007, 01:09 PM
I'm actually on a plan that calls for lites, but all of our LAWL shops closed down because the franchise owner ran the business into the ground.. Even though I had bought bulk lites, Liz and I were left with no way to get them.. It's a long story.. sigh...

I've done a lot of homework investigating what bars would work best for me.. I've found Luna Bars, but not "by the box" and I don't feel like grabbing a handfull of them each week. The Zone perfect bars have a lot of protein, but they are also higher in calories, carbs and sodium.. The Special K bars are a good choice, but I didn't like the taste as much..

As far as I'm concerned, the SB cereal bars are like eating rice crispie treats, but drizzled in chocolate or peanut butter (God's greatest gift to mankind, as far as I'm concerned :lol:)

Dan - I have tried the SB bars before and loved them (a while ago before I started LAWL). I made a mistake in my question - I am on Red1 WITHOUT Lites (My question said I was on the plan with lights, I apologize). If I have a bar, do I count them as a fruit and a starch? I seem to remember on one of the threads, someone saying that but could not find it when I searched for the answer. Since you are one of my heros ehre on the boards with your amazing success, I thought you would know the answer.

Thanks again
Roberta

Katy66
10-10-2007, 01:10 PM
Lynn - the "brownies" sound wonderful. I'll have to try that.

Dan - Thanks for the tip on the south beach bars. I'm getting low on the lites I purchased and really don't want to invest that kind of money in more. I've been "stretching" my bars by substituting Lunas occassionally so this might be a good alternative. I'll give them a try.

Dan2112
10-10-2007, 01:20 PM
Honestly, Roberta.. I'm not sure how to count them if you don't have them on your plan.. Sorry to let you down there... That said, I'm sure someone else here knows the definative answer...

Thanks Katy.. Give them a shot.. The chocolate ones dunked in coffee are really, really good...

aguerin
10-10-2007, 01:55 PM
LOL about the Luna box Dan. I actually pick up one of the open "single sale" boxes and start "stuffing" it until its full with what I want in it. There's not that much different in the cost, but I had rather pick what I want than just what they offer in the bulk box (which is about 2 choices where I shop).

That gives me a week supply at ~ $15.00 vs. $32.00 at LAWL.

Lynx
10-10-2007, 02:10 PM
Hi Roberta,
I had never heard of substituting a fruit and a starch in place of a lite or a lite substitute. This is my understanding here - On the color coded plans a starch is about 50 calories and a fruit is 60 or so calories so you would be short on calories which is not a big deal, but the real purpose of the lites, as I understand it, is to be a good protein source. You would be missing that extra protein component of the menu plan. I know, I know they are high in sugar, but after all protein is the key here.

Dan - what about the luna special for October at Amazon that Suzanne 3FC told us about? 15 bars for $15.09 plus free shipping. Ok you have to buy them 1 flavor to a box, but I thought I would mention it again in case someone had not seen it.

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..

Lynx
10-10-2007, 02:21 PM
Roberta and everyone else reading this - forget my answer to Roberta as shown above. My thinking is apparently turned around today. If she is having a lite or a lite substitute, she is getting more protein, not less.

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..

KSingleton
10-10-2007, 02:45 PM
I have tried the Luna bars, and I really don't like them. I like the Honey Nougat, Double Chocolate and the Caramel Lites. Does anyone know of any comparables to them? I just can't afford to buy the Lites from LAWL. Right now I am on a plan without the Lites, but changing my plan to include Lites is not impossible. It sounds like the SB bars are similar to Lunas if they have the Crispy Rice inside. Any recommendations?

Dan2112
10-10-2007, 02:59 PM
The South Beach bars aren't bad, pricewise.. Unfortunately, I can't remember how much they are, right off the top of my head..

Zone Perfect bars (very yummy but higher in calories by a bit) are reasonalbly priced as well...

Dan2112
10-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Hi Roberta,
I had never heard of substituting a fruit and a starch in place of a lite or a lite substitute. This is my understanding here - On the color coded plans a starch is about 50 calories and a fruit is 60 or so calories so you would be short on calories which is not a big deal, but the real purpose of the lites, as I understand it, is to be a good protein source. You would be missing that extra protein component of the menu plan. I know, I know they are high in sugar, but after all protein is the key here.

Dan - what about the luna special for October at Amazon that Suzanne 3FC told us about? 15 bars for $15.09 plus free shipping. Ok you have to buy them 1 flavor to a box, but I thought I would mention it again in case someone had not seen it.

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..


No.. I don't remember seeing that.. Thanks for the tip!

Lynx
10-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Dan - Re the Luna bars - look for the sticky from Suzanne in the Announcements section. There is a coupon code to enter for a discount.

week 40
LAWL franchise center
Plan 2 with lites
total lost 50 lbs.
Motto - My new motto is - I know how this _______ tastes. I have had it before. I will have it again someday, just not today……..

Dan2112
10-10-2007, 04:25 PM
Got it! Don't know how I missed that.. Thanks!

marzbe
10-10-2007, 04:41 PM
On the South Beach Bars if you're doing the plan without lites 1/2 Protein and 1 Starch. A regular nutra grain would count as a fruit and a starch.

And I wonder how I would ever survive without my little green maintenance book. ;)

shshshhh
10-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Lynn and Dan (and everyone) . Thanks so much for answering my question, even if we don't exactly know how to count the exchanges of a Luna/Lite/SB bar if my program does not include Lites. Here's what I found out by calling the COD. If you don't have Lites in your program (the color coded ones) and you DO eat a Lite Bar, count them as a starch and a fruit. Lynn, there is extra protein in them, but I am thinking their counting straight calories, but not exactly sure.

Dan, the price of the SB bars at Target is 99 cents/bar when they put them on special and they sell boxes of bars that are a good value compared to the individual bar price. Most times I have been there they have been on special.

Roberta

ronlu
10-12-2007, 12:22 AM
Hello all,
I was originally on lites but had to discontinue for financial reasons. To make up the difference in food, my center increased my intake by 1/2 protein and 1 starch. Hope this helps

BarbaraB
10-12-2007, 01:33 PM
Krista, Sometimes you can buy LAWL lites on e-bay for cheaper than the franchise will ever sell them to you. There are several types of lunas. Some of them are better than others. I'm quite fond of the nuts over chocolate. There is some brownie thing also that I like. I found that luna bars vary a lot in what is in them, so I would try a couple and see if there are any that you like. I use LAWL lites, but sometimes have lunas. Zone bars are also close in calories and have even more protein. I've bought them at Costco for a really reasonable price. For me the bars really help me stay on track.

fit40
10-13-2007, 10:06 AM
Does anyone know of a lite replacement bar that doesn't have soy in it? I've not been able to find one.

AvidKayaker
10-14-2007, 12:09 PM
I have tried the Luna bars, and I really don't like them. I like the Honey Nougat, Double Chocolate and the Caramel Lites. Does anyone know of any comparables to them? I just can't afford to buy the Lites from LAWL. Right now I am on a plan without the Lites, but changing my plan to include Lites is not impossible. It sounds like the SB bars are similar to Lunas if they have the Crispy Rice inside. Any recommendations?
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Krista


Krista, what is it you don't like about the LUNAs? Too crumbly / not chewy enough? Just wondering, I like LUNAs alright but prefer others to them.

In my opinion the LA Lite Honey Nougat is similar to the BALANCE Yogurt Honey Peanut (soy based). To my palate its lighter in texture but still filling. Below is the nutrition information for the BALANCE YHP bar compared with LA Lite Chocolate Caramel (I don't have nutrition information for the LA Lite Honey Nougat). BALANCE bars are my favorite bar hands down. Actually I had a lite remaining so I took one to the movie theater last night and had it with a cup of lemon lift herbal tea...mmmmm. Yes, calories are higher by 20 but I just make sensible choices on days I use them, and don't use 2 in one day...sometimes do a light shake instead of another bar. Of course, if (shall I say when?) my WL slows I will re-examine my use of them. I find them for $1 per bar at a local warehouse store called Smart and Final. www.balance.com

LA Lite [Chocolate Caramel] Bars / BALANCE YHP
Calories 180 / 200
Fat 4g / 6 g
Sodium 150 mg / 160 mg
Cholesterol 5 mg / 5 mg
Carbs 30 g / 21 g
Fiber 3 g / 1 g
Protein 8 g / 15 g

shshshhh
10-16-2007, 01:31 AM
On the South Beach Bars if you're doing the plan without lites 1/2 Protein and 1 Starch. A regular nutra grain would count as a fruit and a starch.

And I wonder how I would ever survive without my little green maintenance book. ;)

I think I will follow this exchange advice since the same was posted in a couple of posts further down. Makes much more sense and I think whoever I spoke to when I called the COD must have thought I meant a biscotti which is a fruit and a starch.

YAYYY for all of you. I leave on my trip day after tomrrow and will be taking some bars that I found that have whey in them instead of the soy and are a little higher in calories. Better than eating Airport junk food like pizza or McDonalds.

Thanks again, all
Roberta

zambejaly5
10-16-2007, 09:47 AM
well, at the risk of beating a dead horse...... I know many people have asked, "what exchanges does a bar count for?" and we always give the pat answer that we were programed to from the COD, "there are no exchanges, you go up a plan.....blah, blah, blah," ok, I get that....... BUT lets say one is only on a exchange plan....... ok..... and they want to eat a luna bar........ nutritionally, what could one subtract from thier daily exchanges to have that said Luna bar......... I have Lunas and LA bars left over ..... and even though I am doing NS now, I would like to incorporate my bars to use them up, I have a snack that is supposed to be a fruit and a protien, so like an apple and 1 oz of lite cheese.... or 15 grapes and 1 oz of Chicken breast...... if we say..... one fruit exchange say an appler, 65 calories....... and 1 oz of chicken breast is... 9 g of protien, 45 cal. (info from nutritionaldata.com)..... that would be 110 cal, 9 g of protien.... hmmm could we then say that a luna bar could go in place of my 1 fruit 1 protien snack? I guess the luna would be over about 50 cal

Help! I want to fit my lunas in!

KSingleton
10-16-2007, 10:03 AM
Krista, what is it you don't like about the LUNAs? Too crumbly / not chewy enough? Just wondering, I like LUNAs alright but prefer others to them.


I like the chewy consistency of the Lite Bars. The Lite bars that I like are either a Milky Way/Zero Bar consistency or like a brownie. The Luna bars that I've tried all have a crispy rice type consistency and I don't like that. I'll try the Balance bars. I've seen those in the stores, so I'll try them. Thanks for the info.

AvidKayaker
10-16-2007, 10:13 AM
Hi Krista, Balance bars are softer/chewier than lunas; they're more similar in texture to a brownie/milky way than a rice crispy treat. I use the 'original balance bar' there are other types as well, the 'gold' and the 'carb' something...which are higher in calories. Let me know how you like them.