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09-25-2007, 11:30 PM
OK, for those of you that have been with me for the last year, you know the story of my doctor and how she's been anything but supportive. Never a kind word or any type of encouragement. Based on our insurance plan, I've been sort of forced to wait to change doctors until our annual enrollment period, which is coming up in early December. Before you ask, yes I am switching docs on the first day of open enrollment!

Anyway, on to the update......had my 4 month check-up today. I was certain that she would prove me wrong and be supportive, or at least decent. WRONG AGAIN!!!! Again, after not mentioning or acknowleding my weight loss in any way she began discussing my blood pressure. I've been totally off meds for 3 months now (YIPPEE!!!) and the bp is running excellent....averaging 105/68. Who could ask for more? Apparently Ms. Witchy Doctor can!!! She said to me (in not too nice of a tone) "so what do you think has caused your bp to improve?" What? Are you kidding me? I responded (not too nicely) "oh, I don't know, maybe the 94 pounds that I've LOST?!?!?!?" She followed this remark up with telling me that my bp will always be a concern now that I've damaged my heart by having high bp. I was unaware that there was any damage, in fact the ekg I had prior to losing weight showed no damage. She also said that I shouldn't get too excited by the bp readings as my body is more than likely just in a "honeymoon period" and my bp will go back up (note that I never had high bp until I was 75 pounds overweight), oh, and I also need to consider that I'm entering MENOPAUSE and that will cause my bp to spike! OMG!!!! I have no symptoms of menopause and I'm only 39 for heaven's sake! Take into account family history and the fact that my gma was still having periods at 67, my mom had a hysterectomy at 50 and had not entered menopause yet, then yeah, I'm sure I'm in it full swing right now!!!!! Not batting an eye, she asked if I exercise. Again, we discussed this on the last two visits...maybe I was the only one listening? I told her I walk, at a very brisk pace, for at least 45 minutes and/or use my elliptical for the same amount of time, trying to switch it up a bit, at least 6 out of 7 days a week. Her response was that I really should try to increase my activity. She then moved on to my cholesterol levels. At my highest weight and time of worst eating habits, my cholesterol was 147. Based on this I'm expecting my numbers to come back and be good. She's not. She says I did too much damage by being overweight to ever NOT have to worry about my cholesterol, even if I do "manage" to maintain the weight loss. Cool. Thanks for the encouragement, doc!

OK. The day is about over and I'm about over this visit, but dang, shouldn't these people have to go to some kind of school to learn how to treat patients????? Thank heaven's I have you guys to complain to!;)

09-25-2007, 11:35 PM
Wow. She sounds like an angry robot!

I think it goes without saying that you should be VERY proud of your accomplishments and how much your body obviously responded to your lifestyle change! :bravo:

09-25-2007, 11:39 PM
What a brat!!!! I'll be so happy for you when you get to change doctors. Why become a doctor if you can't stand people! Sheesh!

09-25-2007, 11:44 PM
Ick, what an awful woman.

My family Dr could do nothing but fall over himself with compliments when he saw me last. Thought the weight loss was impressive and told me how healthy I was (with all my lab readings to).

Gah, what a stick in the mud your Dr is. I have to go to my OB next month and I'm hoping she's not like your Dr and more like my family Dr.

Since she didn't say it, I will - you've done an amazing job. You undoubtedly look great and you've done yourself a wonderful service by losing the weight that you have.

09-25-2007, 11:48 PM
I'm wondering how she keeps any patients. A permanently negative attitude such as hers cannot help her patients. Maybe someone needs to tell her that her mental attitude is affecting her own health negatively. Sounds angry and maybe depressed!

09-25-2007, 11:50 PM
Kelly, I hate your doctor just from your descriptions. Imagine how I'd feel if I had actually ever met her? It's a wonder she has any patients!!! Does she wear a black hooded cape and carry a giant sickle? She's like the Angel of Death with her cheery encouragements...

09-25-2007, 11:58 PM
Does she not read medical studies? It sounds like she is a little ill-informed about the long-term effects of being obese and losing weight. She is right that it is hard to maintain weight loss, but it would have been nice to encourage you rather than act as though she doubted that you could ever do it.

So, congratulations on blowing her off yet again. There are plenty of nay-sayers in the world. Too bad that she is one of them.

09-26-2007, 12:05 AM
Wow, is she INSANE? Geesh! You'd think a "way to go" is in order, at the very least!

Girl, you've made AMAZING progress! :hug:

09-26-2007, 12:13 AM

I'd be very vocal about this, to her, to the manager of that clinic, to your insurance, to whoever will listen. Let her know straight up that you're leaving because her bedside manner is terrible.

09-26-2007, 12:33 AM
what a b.i.t.c.h.!!! mine's a bit like that too -- my bp and cholesterol are weirdly normal and it's almost like she's DISAPPOINTED ~ grrr no wonder people hate doctors

oh well, this time next year you'll be thin and healthy and she'll still be a cranky b.i.t.c.h heheheh

09-26-2007, 12:46 AM
Geez, how soon can you change??? December 1st can't be soon enough for you. You deserve something much better than that. I wish I could send you a doctor just like mine. She's extremely encouraging. Just keep blowing her off, it doesn't sound like she's particularly well informed about lots of things.

09-26-2007, 01:13 AM
Wow, she is just crazy-bad! I don't know what state you're in, Kelly, but find out the number of the State Medical Board for your state and call in to report her. Seriously. You could write a letter and include the timeline, the changes that have happened for you as you've lost weight, and what she's said to you even in the face of such marked improvement.

Search for the word complaint, your state's name, plus the words medical board. Ours is this page, for instance: http://www.med.ohio.gov/consumers.htm

And, as the others have said, you've done GREAT!! She has a real complex and I feel badly for her other patients, let alone her family.

09-26-2007, 01:21 AM
Wow. Thank goodness you get to change Drs soon. You shouldnt have to put up with that.

09-26-2007, 02:36 AM
I haven't found an endicronologist yet here, but my nutritionist is awesome! She's a little slow on the uptake when I joke, but she was happy to see me eating more fresh foods and losing weight. She makes nice suggestions, doesn't bring me down. As soon as you can, get out! No one needs to feel bad about awesome accomplishments!

09-26-2007, 03:44 AM
Ohmigosh. I can't believe that!! You definitely need to report her. Maybe I need to take a trip just so I can clock 'er one ;) jk

09-26-2007, 04:36 AM
I would be tempted to tell her that your bp only goes up when you are around her and have to listen to her rubbish.

09-26-2007, 08:23 AM
What an incredibly arrogant jerk! The only reason that people like her act like that is because she can. Good for you for not putting up with this kind of treatment and finding a new doctor.

Mrs Quadcrew
09-26-2007, 09:24 AM
You know what she sounds like to me??? She sounds like a JEALOUS toxic person. (you know, some of us have "freinds" that are like that) You have done sooo well - it is too bad she cannot encourage you like she should.

09-26-2007, 11:25 AM
I'm wondering if you couldn't call your insurance company and ask for permission to switch on grounds that you feel she is incompetent. Tell them it would probably be cheaper to switch now than for them to have to pay for any of her mistakes. Anyway, can't hurt to ask...and if they said yes...maybe you could make a formal complaint with them (heck even if they say no you could try this) so she would be investigated and removed as one of their covered providers.

You have done a GREAT job! Make sure to tell your new doctor how far you've come since they'll have missed all the excitement!

I'm eager to see how my doctor responds. I went in last January for my checkup and that's what started the whole process. She talked to me for a long time about different methods she thought were best for long term loss and maintenance. I really hope she bubbles over with praise... :D

I hate that there are those other kinds of people out there...wearing white coats or not...that feel like they have to bash and belittle people...and tear them down...at every opportunity. Her discouragement was abusive.

09-26-2007, 11:36 AM
I'd actually make another appointment for just before you change doctors and tell her why you are doing it. She may not even realize what a nasty, patronizing b.i.t.c.h. she is. Somebody needs to make it clear to her that it is unnacceptable and you're leaving because of it.

What a tool.

09-26-2007, 12:29 PM
Kelly, I can't believe that this has happened yet again. You know, you think the first time, maybe she had a rotten day. Not that that's an excuse for poor and unprofessional behavior, mind you. But yesterdays' visit - MY GOODNESS. She has absolutely no right treating patients. WHATSOEVER. I don't care how smart she is. Let her use her knowledge in research or something. She should stick to labatory rats. And stay the heck away from human beings.

I'm real sorry you had to go through this. That's just not the way a doctors visit should be. :hug:

09-26-2007, 12:36 PM
Sheesh!! What a horrible doctor! I'm sorry you couldn't switch sooner.

After you've switched doctors, you might want to send a letter to whatever group she's with. After a doctor visit where I walked out, I sent a letter and got an immediate response from the clinic's omsbudsman that was really supportive. Even if you don't get that kind of response, at least you can know that you've informed other people about her behavior and gotten the chance to vent to people who can possibly do something. Like sending her to sensitivity training!!

09-26-2007, 01:05 PM
Doctors take the Hippocratic oath and as we know part of it says to "do no harm". It really amazes me that many doctors do not treat the psychological and mental wealth-fare of a patient with the same respect. As poster before me have put that comments which are so negative could have a devastating result. Doctors like this should be brought in for further training and still if things have not improved with patients then they should be removed and maybe offered posts in research where there is no patient contact.

I feel that patients in your position should be praised for their weight loss in that way you are more likely to maintain the weight loss or lose further if not yet at your goal.

Not so many years ago I was a patient of a GP who was dreadful. Yes I was massively over weight at the time but when I went complaining of numbness and pins and needles. His solution was to send me to a dietitian:?: I really was not happy by this so here in the UK you can see another doctor in the same practise which I did and he did some basic neurological tests. To cut a very long story short I was diagnosed with MS. So the first GP could not see past my weight.

Maybe when you are able to change doctors which I wish you could do yesterday. I would be inclined to go through the complaints procedure. So that no other person is put through what you have been put through.

On a positive note head up and be proud of what you have achieved. Your decision to change your life style and eating habits will benefit your health in the long run.

09-26-2007, 04:33 PM
Your dr is a jerk. Report her to the office manager of the medical clinic. That person needs to be aware of why this doctor is losing a patient.

09-26-2007, 08:15 PM
This woman has obviously selected the wrong career, she doesn't have any compassion , no sign of a caring, nurturing attitude Good luck with your new doctor.

traci in training
09-26-2007, 08:34 PM
As a person going into a medical field - nursing student - we are told constantly about how important it is to be non-judgmental and supportive of patients NO MATTER WHAT. So - you would never say anything this negative to someone who DIDN'T lost the weight. I can't imagine what they'd do to us if we said this stuff to someone who DID make the effort.

I know doctors are different than nurses, but surely this woman has partners or office mates or an employer of some kind who would like to know how poorly she is representing her profession. Pathetic behavior!

09-26-2007, 08:40 PM
Wow. What a cranky and bitter woman. I sure feel for her husband, if she's lucky enough to have one who will put up with her.

BTW, WAY to GO on all of your healthy successes!

Keep on walking!

09-27-2007, 12:20 AM
OMG, thank you all for the support! I was away from the 'puter today and just had a chance to check messages and mail, etc, and it greatly boosted my spirits to read all your encouraging and congratulating comments! You guys are so awesome!

A couple things that weren't in the original post that I wanted to add: In July I saw my OB/GYN for my annual well woman exam. He hadn't seen me since before the revelation last fall, and he definitely made up for all the crap the she-witch put me through. He was so happy and couldn't say enough good things! Secondly, a nurse from the doctors office called today to tell me all my labs were back and looked fine. I questioned her on the cholesterol and asked what the level was..........drumroll please.........141!!! Woo hoo!!! Now granted my numbers were really good even at my highest, but even so, seeing it go down rather than spike as she suggested was almost as good as if I had been face to face and able to stick out my tongue at her....lol!

As for filing complaints, you betcha! The day my records are transferred to a new doctor will be the day I file all the reports and complaints. Call me gun shy, but I'm just afraid to do it while she still has my file!

Thanks again, EVERYONE!!!

09-28-2007, 04:47 AM
I'd ask her why she's even a physician? Perhaps she has an aptitude for medicine but there are plenty of career options that do not involve people (she could do obesity studies on rats for example) why tax herself with things like "compasion" or umm... "positive reinforcement". I had a doctor once tell me... "you should sign up for Jenny Craig or something". What he didn't realize was that I had a temper that can flare without warning... and he was the lucky winner that day. My response to him was that he went to school for seven years and that is the BEST advice he has to offer??! I could get the same advice from a television commercial and it would have as much value as what he just said. Needless to say... the conversation ended... I didn't make an effort to return to him. Fortunately, I wasn't bound by any health plan dictating who my doctor can be. When did the world get taken over by the insurance companies anyway???

09-28-2007, 07:12 AM
I agree with everyone!! I wouldn't wait to complain, because this is just unethical behavior. She should be reviewed just for how she is treating you. And I would tell her off, not later but now!!!

09-28-2007, 11:53 AM
Isn't it interesting that she's suggesting that, although you're not now in trouble...you will be? (Despite medical evidence to the contrary - and Yes, I am a Discovery Health Channel addict.)

I've started to wonder if she gets kick-backs from the BP & Cholesterol drug companies? If not, she MUST get a kick back from the Anxiety medication that any of her patients must need after seeing her for any amount of time!!!!!!!!

Is SHE perhaps going through menopause???

BTW, I recently saw an interesting article (simply by the premise it offered), that physicians do NOT learn about nutrition and exercise and their benefits during their medical training. (I thought to myself, well no kidding!) But that doesn't mean I take any personal trainer or internet advertisement's word either. I look for double blind studies and consider the span of the study, as well as the studied (gender, number, and age).

So, "use" the doc for the lab results. She's certainly "using" you for a pay check from the insurance company!!!!!!!!!!

OH! Have you researched and interviewed other prospective doctors within your insurance??? I do that with all of my pediatricians now. They should allow you to interview w/o an office call charge. There's a bunch of Health Consumer savvy interview options on the web if you're not sure what you'd ask.

Best of luck.