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JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 10:24 AM
Frankenfoods....lc bread, lc pasta, lc candy. lc snacks, etc. Good? Bad? What are your opinions?


SoulBliss
09-18-2007, 10:27 AM
:lol: Frankenfoods!

I am not an Atkins follower but I saw the title and had to check this out. :lol:

So many "foods" (low carb or not) are truly "Frankenfoods", you know?

;)

FitinTime
09-18-2007, 11:28 AM
Hi Kim!
I'm so glad to see your thread.
How's everything going! Did your Steelers win! LOL

Well you know I learned about Frankenfoods from the best, so you know how I feel about that.
It took a long while to break myself from eating those Atkins bars, but everytime I thought about it, I would hear a little voice inside say, "don't do it, don't eat it". Hmmm, I wonder who's voice that was? ;)


Puncezilla
09-18-2007, 11:47 AM
I like to keep it as natural as possible. I do occasionaly have Sugar free breath mints, or a little diet cola when I need a treat. I use splenda quite regularily. I don't buy any bars or shakes or any packaged foods like that. If I cant make it at home with natural ing, I don't realy want to eat it.

MissyFluffs
09-18-2007, 11:59 AM
I lost 50 lbs on a healthy Atkins diet, I had started on it early, before all those frankenfoods were being marketed. I ate a big salad every day for lunch, had high protein breakfast and dinner (usually with organic eggs and at least natural meats). If I wanted a treat, I'd treat myself to a little bit of melon or a berry/coconut milk smoothie.

Then the frankenfoods started hitting the shelves, Splenda started showing up in everything. It started with the low carb icecream, that was a huge temptation for me, I remember picking a pint up at the whole foods on the way home from work almost every day. Then they started putting splenda in big red.. my favorite soft drink. I drank that stuff like it was water. The point is, this stuff made me sick, and led me on a spiraling path that ended up with me gaining all the weight back within two years. I think especially with the splenda, it began to mess with my kidneys. I kept having horrible stomach pains and cramps. Back pains, and urinary discomfort. got checked for UTI and the docs found nothing. On top of that I just felt tired and sick all the time. I blamed my hormones, but eventually suspected the vast quantities of splenda. Then I read online somewhere that it's made of sugar bonded with Chlorine! And that in the clinical trials it was found to affect thyroid function and produce crystals in the urine (hence the UTI symptoms) Of course, they determined that it was safe in "normal" amounts. But I was drinking tons of this stuff, put it in every liquid that passed my lips.

Anyways, so I quit it all about a year ago, and it took awhile for me to get my motivation back. When I went back on my low carb diet a few months ago, I cut out all franken foods. No MSG, no Splenda, no aspartame, no soy, no words I can't pronounce. I just eat fresh veggies, healthy meats and eggs, and a little bit of dairy here and there. And if I want a treat, I went back to a little bit of fruit instead of turning to franken foods.

JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 12:24 PM
Hi Kim!
I'm so glad to see your thread.
How's everything going! Did your Steelers win! LOL

Well you know I learned about Frankenfoods from the best, so you know how I feel about that.
It took a long while to break myself from eating those Atkins bars, but everytime I thought about it, I would hear a little voice inside say, "don't do it, don't eat it". Hmmm, I wonder who's voice that was? ;)

Hey Diana!
Yup...My STEELERS won on Sunday!!! They kicked Buffalo's butts 26 to 3!!! :carrot: They've won their first 2 games so....they are off to a GREAT start!!!:carrot:

I'm glad I never got "addicted" to frankenfoods. My biggest indulgence is low carb/low sugar yogurt, SF DaVinci's, and my occasional packet of Splenda in my decaf herbal tea. Atkins bars are EVIL!!! And luckily, I've never been much for soda's. Diet Coke tastes nasty to me...like dishwater! Its funny, I'm Italian and I have no desire for pasta! That Dreamfields stuff contains sorbitol (a sugar alcohol) and I don't buy the 5 "digestible" carbs per seriving. A serving is a ½ cup and has 42 total carbs. They deduct 37 carbs for something they refer to as "protected carbs" which they briefly explain are carbs that are "protected" from digestion in the small intestine:?::?::?: Sounds too good to be true to me....and...you know what they say about too good to be true, if it sounds that way, it usually is!!

I have no idea who's voice you're hearing telling you "don't do it, don't eat it":angel: I'm just glad you're listening! You'll be glad you did!!!:)

FitinTime
09-18-2007, 12:35 PM
LOL Kim, I mean't you!

I'm weaning myself from diet rite sodas, and I'm actually eating strawberries and blueberries for a dessert or treat. I'm drinking at least 5 bottles of water that are 16.9 oz. Is that enough or do I need more?
It's funny because I never thought I could eat this way and it's just becoming a habit. To think of eating any other way right now seems foreign to me.

JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 12:49 PM
You're doing GREAT Diana!!:carrot: Keep up the good work!!

Successful & permanant weight loss requires changing your eating habits for the rest of your life! Diets don't work...Lifestyle changes work!!! Eating any other way isn't foreign...it just proves you've changed you lifestyle!!! WTG girl!!!:carrot::carrot::carrot:

kaplods
09-18-2007, 12:55 PM
I think moderation is key to everything. On one hand, I had a supervisor once who was a health food fanatic, but smoked like a chimney (a chain smoker, who despite the nonsmoking policy in the govt bldg was high enough in the chain of command to get a filtration system for his office rather than a reprimand). Cutting the cigarettes and eating the occasional twinkie would have been a better choice for him, in my opinion (by the way, that's a figurative twinkie, as I destest the little buggers).

If you eat a mostly "real food" diet, one or two "frankenfoods" occasionally probably provides minimal risk, but if everything you eat has unpronounceable chemicals in it, you have to wonder what sort of chemistry-set you've made of your body.

FitinTime
09-18-2007, 01:02 PM
Thanks Kim! :D

FitinTime
09-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Kim,
What dou you think about that coconut bark that everyone is eating. The coconut oil is supposed to have some health benefits. I've tried and it's not bad. The co is supposed to help the skin and metabolism from what I read about it.

Your thoughts?

JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 02:54 PM
Kim,
What dou you think about that coconut bark that everyone is eating. The coconut oil is supposed to have some health benefits. I've tried and it's not bad. The co is supposed to help the skin and metabolism from what I read about it.
Your thoughts?


Hey Diana,

Remember, you asked for my thoughts:smug:

Here goes....I've seen the recipes for "coconut bark" and honestly, they've never interested me much. I'm not sure Splenda is the safest thing in the world so, I use it very sparingly. As for health benefits....I've heard pro's & con's. The American Heart Association claims coconut oil is detrimental to cardiovascular health and promoted heart disease. So who knows! If I'm unsure of something, I just stay away from it. Chocolate was always my "weakness"....I never thought I'd be able to do without it....but....ya know what, I haven't had it in months and I've survived!!!:) Every now & then, I'll have some Lindt 85% cocoa dark chocolate but, its not very often. My passion is Fage Greek Yogurt with frozen blueberries, a tiny bit of hazelnut or english toffee DaVinci's, a sprinkle of cinnamon & a few toasted, chopped almonds. It's to die for!!![

phantastica
09-18-2007, 03:33 PM
I have a general rule to stay away from "frankenfoods" and anything that's not whole foods. Of course I live in America so it's impractical to eliminate them entirely, but I try to use them very sporadically. I guess if it's in a box that says how healthy it is, I don't really trust that.

FitinTime
09-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Hey Diana,

Remember, you asked for my thoughts:smug:

Here goes....I've seen the recipes for "coconut bark" and honestly, they've never interested me much. I'm not sure Splenda is the safest thing in the world so, I use it very sparingly. As for health benefits....I've heard pro's & con's. The American Heart Association claims its detrimental to cardiovascular health and promoted heart disease. So who knows! If I'm unsure of something, I just stay away from it. Chocolate was always my "weakness"....I never thought I'd be able to do without it....but....ya know what, I haven't had it in months and I've survived!!!:) Every now & then, I'll have some Lindt 85% cocoa dark chocolate but, its not very often. My passion is Fage Greek Yogurt with frozen blueberries, a tiny bit of hazelnut or english toffee DaVinci's, a sprinkle of cinnamon & a few toasted, chopped almonds. It's to die for!!![

Is that yogurt okay for OWL, or just maintainence? Where do you get it?
Thanks Again!!!:D

JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 05:16 PM
I get the Fage Total 5%. Basically, its made from milk, cream & live active yogurt cultures. Its strained yogurt so...its not thin & watery like the usual yogurts out there. It is rich, thick & very creamy. The texture is much like that of sour cream. There are 5 carbs in a 5.3 oz container & there are 5 grams sugar.

I purchase mine at a local supermarket. You can check your local supermarket's for it. Trader Joe's & Whole Foods also carry it.

You may want to have a look at this concerning carbs & yogurt:
http://www.lowcarbluxury.com/yogurt.html

MissyFluffs
09-18-2007, 05:23 PM
I do yogurt occasionally, when I'm doing really well on my exercise routine. I buy the full fat "cream on top" Brown cow yogurt.. PLAIN.

It took me a little time to get used to plain yogurt, I started by adding just a little bit of fruit-sweetened jam to it and mixing it up. Eventually I weened myself off the jam and now I love just plain plain yogurt. Especially that "cream top" kind.. it's so thick and creamy!

JerseyGyrl
09-18-2007, 05:37 PM
The Brown Cow Cream On Top plain yogurt has 9 carbs for a 6 oz serving and 9 grams of sugar.

slimdownmomof2
09-18-2007, 11:23 PM
I didn't even know what frankenfoods were lol. I also think moderations is key. I really think you can eat so much healthier on LC or Atkins, even on WW I was eating so much processed food so it's really just about how you want to do the diet.
I try to mainly eat whole foods but I'm sure guilty of a diet soda a day and definately splenda in my coffee each morning. I don't take it overboard and I haven't noticed it effecting me yet. But I've never tried the LC bars shakes etc. My indulgence is sugar free jello with whipped cream on it with a couple sliced strawberries and you know what it sure does the trick of satisfying my sweet tooth!

Bouncing
09-18-2007, 11:38 PM
Hi all. After this current bout of major bladder and kidney pain/discomfort, and doing yet more research on sucralose, I'll never touch the stuff again. It seems I'm NOT all that unusual! Huh, Missy! Me for natural. Organic, even. And I love Brown Cow too, but it's too high carb for my allowance right now. sigh.

Feeling disgustingly virtuous in advance,

kelligirl
09-19-2007, 05:58 AM
I totally agree with Jerseygirl. No frankenfoods. *except* for the SF Davinci's.

slimdownmomof2: I know what you mean about WW. I did the same thing with trying to cheat the system by eating all those processed foods that they sell. I did lose weight, but really I was just living life in between binges. You are correct...its all in how you do the diet. Now, keeping the food simple and unfooled around with seems to even things out and has me living a craving free life. I wouldn't trade this feeling for a dinner roll in a million years.

227/205.8/160

Bouncing
09-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Yep, the miserable uti symptoms seem to have been caused by sucralose. No sucralose for 48 hrs, symptoms all gone. Ate something with sucralose, symptoms back within an hour. Another 24 hrs without, symptoms gone. A little bit of sucralose, symptoms back. As far as I'm concerned, sucralose has been indicted, tried, and convicted. To be fair, this was liquid sucralose from a vendor who advertises on the internet. I never noticed any trouble with a packet of Splenda in my coffee. It might be a threshhold phenomenon, or maybe it's something else in the stuff I bought. It has purified water, sucralose, citric acid, sodium citrate, potassium sorbate, and sodium benzoate as a preservative. Anybody know if any of these are problematic?

MissyFluffs
09-21-2007, 08:28 PM
Bouncie.. interesting. I know that the sucralose-sweetened sodas I was drinking like water also had sodium benzoate in them. I wonder if the combination is even worse? Causing some kind of chemical reaction or something?

phantastica
09-21-2007, 08:43 PM
Frankenfoods....lc bread, lc pasta, lc candy. lc snacks, etc. Good? Bad? What are your opinions?

Aren't "frankenfoods" more like genetically engineered plants and animals, rather than just highly processed foods? Maybe it's both?

Bouncing
09-22-2007, 01:25 AM
I've seen the term used pretty loosely here. As originally coined, I believe the word meant genetically modified food plants. As I've seen it used here, and used it myself, it seems to include manufactured ingredients not found in nature, such as artificial sweeteners, unpronouncable ingredients, and jiggered molecules (like moving a radical to another position, or replacing a carbon atom with a chlorine atom). Since it's kind of an imaginative slang word anyway, I figure we can use it any way we want, so long as we agree on what it means. Language being a living, evolving tool, and all. ;)