The Biggest Loser - Winning by Losing - TBL Season 4 Weekly Show Discussion - *SPOILERS*




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Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Glad to try to update as much as possible for you onthetee!

sorry to hear about your dish


Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:08 PM
First thoughts on those they introduce from home ... the 1st half

Jim looks smokin' hot!

Kae - not sure I'm liking the new hair-do. She looks like she put on a little since her revela

Jez - HOLY COW!!

Amber - very disappointing - thought she would have lost more. Almost looks like she is with child

Patty - ah... was hoping for more

Jerry - WOW!!!

Phil - What a STUD!!!

zinkemomx2
12-18-2007, 10:10 PM
If I were Amber I would be a bit embarrassed right now. You are right, she looks pregnant.

All the guys look HOT!


Shay
12-18-2007, 10:12 PM
Phil--I knew he would look that good! That man is HOT!!!

Jerry--Is a nice looking man too!

Jez-Looks good!

Kae--I'm not feeling all those muscles in her arms.

Amber--Not surprised.

Patty--A bit disappointed!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:14 PM
Look at Amy! Gotta work on those arms!

All the men look so good!

Nicole looks really good! What is about women and their arms!

OMFG---I knew Neil would look that good!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:14 PM
2nd half

David - a whole new cowboy!

Ryan - not bad

Leley - she did well

Amy - Hotness but has sagging arms

B - H-O-T!!

Nicole - Pretty - did well!

Neil - OMG!!!!!!!!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:15 PM
Aww, poor Amber. Not surprised at all.

Patty - yeah, not so much.

Ride em COWBOY!!!

Nicole - she really came thru!!

Neil - OMGosh!!! Doesn't EVEN look the same!!!

Amy - a true surprise!!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Jim is looking a little dehydrated.

Neil - that's right, you shouldn't be proud about water loading! Duh!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:17 PM
Does Twin 1 look skinnier than we think Twin 2 IBILL) will look??? Twin 1 looks almost, "too" skinny.....

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:17 PM
Yep, that's it Andi. He looks like he got deep fried, crispy crittered, microwaved.......

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:19 PM
Isabeau had a boyfriend???? wow, good for her.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:20 PM
LOL I wonder who will be the skinniest between the twins. I bet they are going to look more alike now.

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:20 PM
Julie really gets on my nerves! Please she saw her family like 3 times during the show!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:22 PM
Now that I've finally accepted that a black team member will win now I'm like anyone but Julie please....

Hollie will be beautiful!

Diva
12-18-2007, 10:22 PM
Julie gets on my last nerve too. Must she talk? grrrr

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:22 PM
Um - what was that cheer?! My son didn't catch it either...

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:23 PM
Wow, the twins looked about the same size when Bill got home.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:25 PM
http://biggestloser.msn.com
Million Pound Match-Up

Diva
12-18-2007, 10:26 PM
I wanna go sign up to go to the ranch! but doesn't it cost money? I seem to remember trying to sign up fot either TBL or some other reality show and they wanted money... At this very moment I would love NOTHING more than to get the **** away from my family.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:27 PM
And go here to register for America's Million Pound Challenge:
http://biggestloser.msn.com/

Gonna leave my sig off now, as I'm sure you all are tired of seeing it. :)

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Uh Oh, that doesn't sound good Roni. Yes it does cost to go to the Ranch, I thought I had heard they were opening it. I don't believe it costs to be on TBL though. In fact, they give a stipened if I remember reading right.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:28 PM
No, no money that I know of. Even if you make it to final tryouts, they arrange travel for you.

"H-O-L-L-IIIII-E - we love our HOLLIE."

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Is "going to the ranch" different than being on the show or somethign?

Sign me on to the sick of Julie squad -- I got that sinking feeling again wondering why she was getting so much air time.

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Okay the audience is being pretty rude this year. I don't remember that happening in the past 3 years.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Amber's up...
Starting 295
Ending 211
Total % Lost 28.47%

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Amber--Lost 84 lbs. It's too bad that it is difficult to tell.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:32 PM
OK, Amber must be like what, 5 feet tall? 80+ lbs off her doesn't show that much.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:33 PM
Lezley:
Starting 255
Ending 200
Total % lost 21.56%
-55 pounds.

Amber's still in the #1 spot

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:33 PM
Julie is the smallest so she could be the winner if she gets really down there....please no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:34 PM
Why did he do that? The illusion was better.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Jerry
Starting 297
Ending 187
Total % Lost 37.04%

Took over 1st spot!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Why did he do that? The illusion was better.
definitely not pretty :(

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:36 PM
Patty:
Starting 280
Ending 216
Total % Lost 22.86

Diva
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Why did he do that? The illusion was better.

LMAO!!!!!:D

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Yeah but it was classic when Allison said, "OK< put your shirt back on now." Could she have not waited til the next video played - LOL!! I think she was uncomfortable herself!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Maybe Neil will win the $100,000

Diva
12-18-2007, 10:41 PM
Bill is definately the better looking twin.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Jim's turn!! Needs to lose more than 133 pounds to beat Jerry!
Starting 361
Ending 175
Total % Lost 51.52%
Lost 186 pounds!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:42 PM
OMG!! I missed Allison saying that....funny!

Okay-Jim lost 186 lbs! Look at those arms!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:43 PM
I agree Diva.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:43 PM
Phil the Stud is up! Needs to lose 207 pounds
Starting 403
Ending 258
Total % Lost 35.98%
-145 pounds

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:44 PM
I love myself some Phil...oh my goodness!!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:45 PM
"This is for Jez"
Starting 345
Ending 195
Total % Lost 43.48%
-150 pounds

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:46 PM
I love myself some Phil...oh my goodness!!

My thought exactly!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Jillian's team is kicking ***!! Come on Neil....I know he's not next but I am sending positive vibes to him.

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Bob's team has gotta win something!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Cowboy's turn! Needs to lose 189 pounds to take 1st
Starting 368
Ending 228
Total % Lost 38.04%
-140 pounds

onthetee
12-18-2007, 10:48 PM
You all are so sweet! thanks for letting me follow along!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Hmm, cowboy doesn't have any muscle development in the arms. Looked kind of odd didn't it? Like, nothing. Hmmmm. Still a sweetie though. Said "yes ma'am" to Miss Allison! :)

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Ryan needs to lose 192 pounds
Starting 374
Ending 241
Total % Lost 35.56%
-133 pounds

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Maybe he's just doing cardio. I think a lot of people forget about strength training. I remember Jaron talked about that last season. He had difficulty with strength training because he hadn't done any.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Amy's face is so pretty, she looks like a china doll. Seriously, like plastic surgery redone pretty, it looks so different. I'm sure she didn't, I'm just amazed how the producers can find the people who look really so pretty once they lose their weight!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:55 PM
It's Amy's turn... needs to lose more than 153 pounds
Starting 297
Ending 171
Total % Lost 42.42%
-126 pounds

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:55 PM
Do you see Amy's waist? Was that a dig at Amy from Allison?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:55 PM
OK, Amy's guns look better than cowboys! Just shows what a little weight lifting will do.

i remember that too about Jaron. You're right.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Let's see how Kae does!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Was what a dig? What did she say, i missed it.

OK< Kae looks great in her look pixie haircut!

Diva
12-18-2007, 10:56 PM
UGH! I wanted to see if Amy would Hug Kim and they didn't show it. she went str8 to Jillian.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:57 PM
Kae the rockstar needs to lose more than 115 pounds
Starting 225
Ending 128
Total % Lost 43.11
-97 pounds - did not meet her goal of 110

Shay
12-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Kae had on too much makeup.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Haven't seen Kim get a hug yet. she stepped fwd to greet Phil, but he passed her on by to hug Jim. Well, here's her chance I guess.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:58 PM
B's turn! Needs to lose more than 178 pounds
Starting 346
Ending 224
Total % Lost 35.26%
-122 pounds

Andi18
12-18-2007, 10:59 PM
I missed it, did she get a hug from B?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 10:59 PM
Nobody's beatin' Jim. I wonder if he will actually be TBL even tho he's not in the final 4. Didn't that happen in Matt's season, when that older black really sweet gentleman was actually TBL % wise. Anyone remember that?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Yes, he hugged & lifted her.

Diva
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
yup.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Oops, you can only post once in 30 seconds! We're getting too fast!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:01 PM
I don't think Amy would hug Kim. That would have been for tv if she did. You can tell they just don't like each other. Just like you can tell Kim and Jillian don't like each other either.

onthetee
12-18-2007, 11:01 PM
Nobody's beatin' Jim. I wonder if he will actually be TBL even tho he's not in the final 4. Didn't that happen in Matt's season, when that older black really sweet gentleman was actually TBL % wise. Anyone remember that?

have you seen that guy on the reunion shows?? He is amazing.

Diva
12-18-2007, 11:02 PM
Night girlies. I have a pounding headache so I am gonna finish watching from the sofa. Big Hugs!:hug:

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:04 PM
Nicole's turn ~ Needs to lose more than 143 pounds
Starting 279
Ending 174
Total % Lost 37.63
-105 pounds

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Oh let's see how Neil does... The last one that can beat Jim....

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Nicole looks fantastic! She looks great!

Pete didn't beat Matt but it was close!

Come on Neil!!!!!!!!!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Night girlies. I have a pounding headache so I am gonna finish watching from the sofa. Big Hugs!:hug:

Enjoy the couch! Hope the headache goes away :( :hug:

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:06 PM
Neil's turn - needs to lose more than 216 pounds
Starting 421
Ending 210
Total % Lost 50.11
-211 pounds

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:06 PM
Go Jim!! Go Jim!! Go Jim!!

by a whole 5 pound difference!
Both of them looked GREAT!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:06 PM
5 freaking lbs!

The black team will run the tables...damnit!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:09 PM
OMFG Julie is small!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:11 PM
WAIT -- why is Hollie not at home, why is she living by herself?

I got interrupted by a people update - jamie lynn spears is pregnant (at 16).

zinkemomx2
12-18-2007, 11:13 PM
Hollie decided to move to LA

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:15 PM
OK, I don't get boxes when I buy from subway, do you??? lol what a nice prop.

the neck thing is still there

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:15 PM
Here is a list of how they (those that were sent home) did:

David 368 228 -140 38.04%
Lezley 255 200 -55 21.57%
Patty 280 216 -64 22.86%
Amber 295 211 -84 28.47%
Bryan 346 224 -122 35.26%
Ryan 374 241 -133 35.56%
Phil 403 258 -145 35.98%
Jerry 297 187 -110 37.04%
Nicole 279 174 -105 37.63%
Amy 297 171 -126 42.42%
Kae 225 128 -97 43.11%
Jez 345 195 -150 43.48%
Neil 421 210 -211 50.12%
Jim 361 175 -186 51.52%

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:16 PM
OK, I don't get boxes when I buy from subway, do you??? lol what a nice prop.

the neck thing is still there

They sell boxes?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:17 PM
did she say why she moved to la? for work? so she left her cheerleading coaching job? wow, that's alot of changes at once.

ok, julie's pulling a car across the street?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:18 PM
their meals were in a box on the show - like a carryout box. i think it just made better for their advertising

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:18 PM
she moved to get away from the distractions

I think Jez also moved to LA after he got kicked off.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:19 PM
Jim looks amazing! He think he has it. Last year I could tell before they weighed in that Erik won it but that freaking Julie is looking small. She may get 2nd. I hope not.

zinkemomx2
12-18-2007, 11:19 PM
OMG! Julie does look so thin.

Bill looks about the same size as Jim for finale. Jim was bigger to start though wasn't he?

Isabeau doesn't really look at that small to me.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:19 PM
their meals were in a box on the show - like a carryout box. i think it just made better for their advertising

That's it! It's all for the advertising :lol:

zinkemomx2
12-18-2007, 11:20 PM
No Subway boxes here.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:20 PM
Jamie Lynn Spears...Britney Spears...what a mess! They didn't get a chance to be children.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:22 PM
Holy Cow - Julie is stinkin' Hot!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:22 PM
OMG..how are they going to be able to drag this out for 40 minuteS???

Oh goodness...Julie is really small!

onthetee
12-18-2007, 11:23 PM
You're killing me! How small is small? Kae small? Jillian small?

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:24 PM
What a minute now...Hollie looks even smaller than Julie.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:24 PM
OK, Julie is now a bobblehead.

Actually, she has the distinction of looking like NANCY GRACE!!! ewwww

Going to testify before congress?? My friends, that sounds like a TBL winner to me. :eek:

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:24 PM
Holy Hollie!
The Cheerleader is back!!!

Did you see Jez walk her down the stairs?! ;)

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:25 PM
Like she was never fat. Hollie looks smaller and better.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:25 PM
Oh oh...look at Isabeau!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Isabeau is looking stunning!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Isabeau's arms look good for how large she was....

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Love Hollies short whacked hair. Missed Jez, darn it.

Isabeau is out - she didn't make the cut, at least visually. She was the largest though. OK, seeing Bill is just like seeing Jim. They're the same.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:27 PM
Bill is the man!!! I'm sorry but he does NOT look like he is 41!!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:27 PM
I think Hollie is the smallest of the women though.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Interesting....I just saw Julie's arms flapping...Isabeau's arms look tighter than hers.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:29 PM
well, he's not a tanorexic as his brother, but he looks older than he did when the show ended. i thing they've all goteen unhealthy.

Woot - did you just see Julie's arm flaps going as the camera panned her? shakin baby......... why they insist on wearing sleeveless, I'll never know.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Julie and Hollie are going to be close to the same percentage I bet.

Not sure how Isabeau is going to do...

Bill will probably take it... Leave it to the brothers to take all of the money!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:31 PM
I'm sure that's a producer thing. I distinctly remember from Season 1. I winced every time I looked at Kelly Miner's arms.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:32 PM
Yep Shay :yes:

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Awww...look at the twins! So cute!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Based on Weigh ins last week it was pretty close...

Hollie loss of 64 lbs--25%
Isabeau loss of 81 lbs--27%
Julie loss of 58 lbs--27%
Bill loss of 130 lbs--39%

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Do the snake boys!!

Check out the matching shoes. It's a little much, no?

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:34 PM
There go the tears :(

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:34 PM
For the women...

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:35 PM
oh what a dog...of course he wants to go last!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:35 PM
So what was Allison's slam to Amy when she weighed in?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:35 PM
probably the producers again - i'm not sure they really give them a choice truly???

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Go Isabeau!
Starting 298
Ending 185
Total % Lost 37.92%
-113 pounds

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:37 PM
ok the beeping for the final 4 is like double the normal time!!!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:37 PM
dang breaks!! That's how they get this to last for 40 minutes!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:37 PM
I was wondering about when she said you are such a role model to your daughters. Just because I think she could have been more mature on the show.

Isabeau--She's lost but she looks good in those tight exercise clothes.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:38 PM
So what was Allison's slam to Amy when she weighed in?

I missed it...

Did anyone catch it?

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:39 PM
Shay just said it above. I heard that, but didn't really take it that way i guess.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:41 PM
Allison laughed as she said it but who knows what is truly going on on stage and in the audience. Maybe I took that way because I thought she could have been more mature on the show.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:42 PM
2 mins of show interspersed with 4 mins of commercials and show previews :rolleyes:

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:44 PM
Okay..they wasted 20 minutes on Isabeau's weigh in, commercials, etc. Now they only have like 15 minutes to get the other two in and reward the winner. The winner gets jipped (sp?) every year.

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:44 PM
wonder how the current people feel having to wait while previews for the next season TBL are playing.............

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:44 PM
OOps I meant other 3 in...OMFG hurry up!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:46 PM
Hollie's turn - needs to lose more than 96 pounds
Starting 255
Ending 105
Total % Lost 41.18%
-105 pounds

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:48 PM
Bill has so won this...he was already at 39% last week.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Skinny Julie's turn ~ needs to lose more than 89 pounds
Starting 218
Ending 121
Total % Lost 44.50%
-97 pounds

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Kill Me Nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Bill's turn is after the break... go figure!

teacher1
12-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Ladies-
How long has this weight loss journey been? Just wondering. Thanks :)

zinkemomx2
12-18-2007, 11:50 PM
9 months I think.

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Kae and Julie have lost the same amount of weight.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:50 PM
She beat Hollie...I knew she would. She started out smaller. Julie is in 2nd place after Bill. Ridiculous....she gets on my nerves.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Sportmom--My thoughts exactly

xJox
12-18-2007, 11:52 PM
WOW!! You all are chatty tonight. Ive missed like 10 pages of posts. lol. Ive been working out the whole time TBL has been on. Ive slipped up majorly the last few days so I figured no better time to kick back into the workout habit than now.

Everyone looks great, but OMG.. JEZ WOW! HOT HOT HOT!!!!!

xJox
12-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Im so mad. I cant believe Julie beat Hollie out. I cant stand Julie.

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:54 PM
If I figured it out correctly he only needs to have lost like 19 more lbs for a total of 149--had lost 130 by last weeks show--to beat Julie. Shut up and let him weigh in!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:56 PM
oh please oh please oh please

let the congress gig not mean ANYTHING..........

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:56 PM
YEAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sit down now julie, your moment in the sun is O-V-E-R !!!!!!!!!

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:57 PM
Bill's turn! At the end of last weeks episode he had already lost 39% ~ He needs to lose more than 148 pounds
Starting 334
Ending 170
Total % lost 49.10%
-164

xJox
12-18-2007, 11:57 PM
YAY!!! GO BILL!!!!! YAY!!!!! Way to kick Julies ***!!!!!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:57 PM
Yeah--good for Bill and Jim. That family is $350,000 richer now!

xJox
12-18-2007, 11:58 PM
Yep. I need that $$$$

Andi18
12-18-2007, 11:58 PM
The twins take it home!

sportmom
12-18-2007, 11:59 PM
The end is always quite anticlimatic isn't it? More time with the winner NBC - people would stay tuned!!!!! Really, they would!

Oh well, ladies, it's off to next year & the Couples Show. Peace out!

Shay
12-18-2007, 11:59 PM
The black team really ruled that game. For the former black team members if we were all 3 teams together--wouldn't Cassie have won the entire thing?

Andi18
12-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Black Team lost a total of 815 pounds with a 45.00% loss
Blue Team lost a total of 720 pounds with a 38.38% loss
Red Team lost a total of 672 pounds with a 34.22% loss

onthetee
12-19-2007, 12:03 AM
Thanks for keeping me in the loop! I wish I could see everyone. Maybe I will find photos online somewhere. NBC already has moved on to the new people.

Andi18
12-19-2007, 12:06 AM
use this link to get to the old contestants
http://www.nbc.com/The_Biggest_Loser/

use this link to get to the new contestants
http://www.nbc.com/The_Biggest_Loser_5/

NemesisClaws
12-19-2007, 01:45 AM
Goodness! I had to go alll the way back to page 50 to read everybody's comments! :)

Now for my piddly 2 cents....

--the first lady kicked off (Amber?)....the minute I saw her, I said to my mother, there's no way she lost all that much...seriously, you just could not tell that she lost 84 pounds....I guess she's one of those unfortunate few who really has to lose MAJOR weight before it is even noticeable....:( My mother did wonder how on earth she was able to perform her EMT job everyday though....I mean if you think about it, you gotta be in shape to go running after folks, picking them up, and whatnot....

--Julie...that whole scene with her pulling a car was a bit extreme. I do love how her hair looked though...really cute mid cut, with glossy blonde shining brightly....I am glad to see the last of her though...woman didn't know when to shut up...

--Never seen those subway boxes before in my life....Is that strictly a California thing?

--The whole time that I saw all of these kicked off contestants one by one, it just seemed to me that with the exception of one or two, the rest didn't seem to try nearly that hard like those in past seasons...I don't know...guess I got used to really, really skinny folks trying to win the prize here...

--I just could not believe some of these ladies were coming out in sleeveless dresses here...seriously! Unless your arms were toned and buff, I would NEVER wear those dresses....

--And finally, the whole show could've been condensed into one hour....they mostly repeated themselves here! Was really pissing me off....

Diva
12-19-2007, 08:26 AM
WAIT -- why is Hollie not at home, why is she living by herself?

I got interrupted by a people update - jamie lynn spears is pregnant (at 16).

OMG! I guess irresponsibilty and lack of parental support and supervision runs in the family.

Diva
12-19-2007, 08:43 AM
Isabuea is younger then Julie therefore her skin has more elasticity(sp). it's easier for a younger woman's skin to snap back than it is for an older woman and especially one who has had kids. They all look beautiful though, even Julie in all her fakeness and excuses(I'll get back to that later). But Hollie, OMG, she is just gorgeous!
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Okay I'm back. Julie is STILL complaining and making excuses. I almost spit out my drink when Bill was complimenting her saying she never complained. I guess he wasn't seeing the same Julie we all were, because IMO, that's ALL she did. Complain, whine and make excuses. She's a SAHM, like me, with ONE kid. She's NOT that busy. I carry and pick up my kid from school do all the shopping, prepare most of the meals, am the ONLY one who cleans this house, does laundry and so on, and I have PLEANTY of time to exercise and plan my healthy meals. She's so full of it and of herself. I'm so glad we don't have to see her anymore.

Tina30
12-19-2007, 09:37 AM
I am so glad that I have tivo because that show dragged on for so long it wasn't even funny! At least I could fast forward through the commercials. The people I thought looked the most dramatic were Phil, Neil, Brian, Ryan, Julie, Hollie, Kae, the rest of them looked really good just not the Holy *HIT I said when I saw the others:) Although Julie really annoyed me on the show and I have to say her whole entrance yesterday annoyed me also....I just thought she was a little full of herself....and although she did look fantastic I just thought she got a bit carried away with the whole look...IMO! Hollie good God everytime she opens her mouth she starts crying it seems to me. She is one emotional gal. I thought Isabuea looked good, but not as good as I thought she would. The twins looked almost unrecognizable to me....I am curious though to see an update on those two in a year....like Matt last years winner I have a feeling they went hard core for the finale and things may start to slip now that they have the money in their pockets. I almost think the winners should get half now and a year from now if they have continued to keep up a healthy lifestyle and maintain their loss they then recieve the other half. I mean Matt looks almost like his old self again. I'm not being really nice am I....I just think though that these people put themselves on national tv and a lot of people are using the show as inspiration so they need to be more real. I think it was Leslie who after her weigh-in said this is real and I have to agree with her. Most people don't loose weight at the pace the others did. Anyway enough of my rant...I am looking forward to the next one, and as much as I complain about the show it really does inspire me...I even called Kev upstairs last night to show him a few of the transformations. He was in awe!

missingmyerica
12-19-2007, 09:56 AM
I am probably going to be hated for saying this, but why all the negative comments about the women not having toned arms and wearing sleeveless dresses? It's obvious they felt pretty, so who cares? Have we become so brainwashed by the media that only perfect people should be allowed to wear sexy clothes? No wonder young girls are starving themselves. Just sayin.

sportmom
12-19-2007, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the reality check, you're right. I think we're just saying, for us, it's not what we would have chosen for our on-air debut. Or we would have put a wrap over us to improve the look. But to each their own, absolutely!

GirlyGirlSebas
12-19-2007, 11:43 AM
Wow! So glad the twins won.

Yes, she annoys me, but Julie did look awesome! And, did anyone notice Amy walk right by Kim to hug Jillian? I don't really care for Kim, but I kinda felt badly for her. And, Kae....did you see those guns on her?! She can totally rock the sleevless dresses! And, Hollie is simply a beautiful girl. I'd love to look like her when I reach goal. Of course, I have nearly 20 years on her, but....oh well.:D

One thing I noticed.....on the couple's BL that starts in January....I saw a lot of Jillian in the previews, but nothing of Bob. Please tell me that Bob will be on this next BL! I know Kim won't be there, but I really hope that Bob will be.

MadamePJ
12-19-2007, 01:47 PM
I have been in Bill's corner since day one ... I knew he'd succeed ... I'm so glad the numbers didn't lie when it was all said and done ... the black team had the biggest loss and loser :D ... I think jillian should be really proud of herself as well as everyone else who managed to achieve success I must say... the negativity on here is overwhelming ... and slightly comical ... I'm sooooo confused ...

practiceliving
12-19-2007, 01:55 PM
I am SO glad the twins won! How cool is that?!

I have to say, though, that I found the whole finale a little disappointing. Some of the contestants hadn't lost any weight since their little follow-up interviews when they were eliminated - what the heck??

I think Amber was the biggest letdown for me - she was the one who was viewer-chosen, and she just... meh. There are so many others who could have used her spot and really committed to it.

chick_in_the_hat
12-19-2007, 01:58 PM
Holy guacamole y'all were chatty last night. :D
Let me start with the bat wings thing. I'm with missingmyerica....most of them worked really hard to get their arms like that. Give them time- they will probably get better. Well - maybe not Amy - her's is likely genetic. I lost my weight 3 years ago - and I'm STILL working on my arms. That being said - I do wear tank tops. My sister weighs like 120 and she's taller than me...and she has bat wings, too. So I'm figuring I'm prolly stuck with what I've got.
KAE - rocking arms! But she's tiny and young and she kicks (!) !! :cb:

I thought Amber was pretty brave to show up and get on the scale. 84 pounds is nothing to sneeze at.

Jerry and the shirt off - no surgery there, folks!! :lol3: Go Jerry! I was thinking Ryan and Jez would have tons of extra skin - they had it even when they were big. I would be interested to know how many have surgery to remove it.

I wish they had spent a little more time on actual useful info (like a workout routine) - but I've been saying that all along. :mad: They get everyone all inspired - what better time to give them more HOW TO? Just my 2.

All in all I was happy with the end - a twins sweep!! :carrot: Jim has some Ross Perot ears now, tho. :eek: I was a little worried those big ol guns were going to hurt him - he definitely has more muscle than Neil.

L144S
12-19-2007, 02:32 PM
There are parts of this show that drive me nuts. Product advertising is the biggest.
I don't care for Kim much and from the above post it sounds like she is not coming back, no big loss for me.

As for the whinning? well we all do it! They just had it on video :)
I thought they all looked great, I am impressed with every one ove them. I remember, maybe first or second season, the first lady out had only lost 15lbs by the final, I think they all worked when they got home this time.
Good for the twins, but as we all know it is mare fun, better, easier when you have partner and they did.
I was also shocked with Julie's final weight of 121. WOW, I guess I can't judge weight at all :)

AND I love that they all came out in cloths that they looked hot in. The men and women looked amazing, sleves no sleves they all looked amazing! I wish them all the best at keeping it off.

Shay
12-19-2007, 07:33 PM
I say what I think. I don't think its being negative. Its being honest.

About the arms of the women and Jerry's stomach-- I am definitely inspired by their amount of weight loss because we all know it is hard but....
Jerry's stomach--that was too much information. That's for he & his wife behind closed doors. The arms--My arms will be an issue when I lose weight. For that reason I will never wear sleeveless clothes. I would feel uncomfortable. If they didn't feel embarassed that's fine but I felt embarassed for them.

For what I've seen it looks like it will be Bob and Jillian for the next season. No worries Rhonda.

Diva
12-19-2007, 07:46 PM
I say what I think. I don't think its being negative. Its being honest.

About the arms of the women and Jerry's stomach-- I am definitely inspired by their amount of weight loss because we all know it is hard but....
Jerry's stomach--that was too much information. That's for he & his wife behind closed doors. The arms--My arms will be an issue when I lose weight. For that reason I will never wear sleeveless clothes. I would feel uncomfortable. If they didn't feel embarassed that's fine but I felt embarassed for them.

For what I've seen it looks like it will be Bob and Jillian for the next season. No worries Rhonda.

Couldn't have said it better myself Shay. You took the words right out of mouth. If I seemed a bit on the negative side last night it's because J and I had an arguement about money and he was a bootyhead. Turns out I won't be getting the treadmill or gazelle I REALLY want and I was feeling pissy...heck, I still am. lol! I've had a interesting yet aggravating day today...Will share later in the other thread. :)
Hugs Shay. :hug:

Hun.e.B
12-19-2007, 11:21 PM
Okay I just watched it tonight and apparently there is too much chit chat for me to catch up on so I'm just gonna say this. For as much as I hated Julie that is one amazing looking woman! Holy cow she blew me away. Lost that big ol badonkadonk! I thought she looked absolutely amazing, Go her! So glad the twins won the money!

NemesisClaws
12-20-2007, 05:41 AM
Black Team lost a total of 815 pounds with a 45.00% loss
Blue Team lost a total of 720 pounds with a 38.38% loss
Red Team lost a total of 672 pounds with a 34.22% loss

I find these stats interesting....granted, the red team was pretty much voted out in a hurry, long before the others, but one wonders if perhaps the trainer wasn't pushing them hard enough, or something....I mean, Amy mentions that she noticed the difference between Kim and Jillian's style of training, and how Jillian was much more effective for her weight loss than Kim was....makes you wonder there, especially since we really only see an edited version of their exercises on the ranch. Obviously I'm keeping in mind that perhaps Kim wasn't able to push Amy enough since Amy did have a tendency to complain a lot. But that applies to every other contestant on the ranch as well...

As for the sleeveless debate on here, there's no doubt these ladies looked good. But it's just....until you get your arms not quite so "swinging in the winds" per se here, why not wear a dress with sleeves so that it's not quite so obvious? I would be saying the same thing about someone wearing a really tight shirt but is way too chubby to carry it off. It's not so much society's expectations as it is (common sense) appropiate attire here...:dizzy:

Another post on here mentioned that former contestant Matt pretty much having gained most of his weight back since the show. I fully expect most of these contestants to have regained 10-20 pounds back after the show has ended, since obviously they are not seriously going to be working out 4 hours every day here for the rest of the lives, but it is a bit discouraging to hear that they give up completely sometimes. I would like an update a year from now on ALL of these contestants and seeing how they fared...I think it would keep them all on their toes if they knew they would still be in the spotlight in the not so near future....;)

sportmom
12-20-2007, 10:32 AM
Diva, I'm so sorry your fitness gifts are not in the picture. Is there any way you can get on with some hours at Wal-Mart pt to get the employee discount? They carry some nice treadmills and gazelles, and if you got the discount, you could probably get them both after a month of working. Just a suggestion cuz you had mentioned before trying to get a job somewhere and I always look at the fitness dept, and I figured there's a WM close to everyone no matter where you live.

Diva
12-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Yeah I am seriosly considering a PT job after the Holiday's. Right now I have promised to babysit so i am pretty much grounded during these holiday's, but in the new year I want a PT job so I can get the things I want, and I am also considering going back to beauty School. I used to be a stylist back in the day, but I have let all my hours and whatnot get lost over the yrs so I'd have to totally retain... Which is fine. I haven't been "paid" to do hair since 1991. I am sure there's a lot of things to learn and relearn... Right now it's in a "maybe" I should go back stage though....

onthetee
12-21-2007, 12:12 AM
I want to see everyone in a year. I suspect that those who did not have monster numbers, will still be close to where they were at the finale. I cannot seen Hollie maintaining such a low weight or Julie. I would bet that Isabeau does. Bill and Jim are not going to be able to keep those weights. I would have loved to have seen a urinalysis on them and see what their numbers were. I am willing to bet that any physician would recommend immediate IV hydration.

BerkshireGrl
12-21-2007, 06:29 AM
Bill and Jim are not going to be able to keep those weights. I would have loved to have seen a urinalysis on them and see what their numbers were. I am willing to bet that any physician would recommend immediate IV hydration.

No kidding! They looked dessicated! :lol:

Bill definitely looked healthier during the next-to-last show than he did at the weigh-in... But I'm glad he won :D Just hope that he started mainlining fluids as soon as he got off that stage.

Diva
12-21-2007, 10:50 AM
IMO, as good as Bill looked on the next to the last show, he looked like a dehydrated bobble-head on the finale'. So did his brother. Kudos for all the weight lost and for winning all that money, but dudes, drink some water!!!! I know they will all prolly gain at least 10 to 20 back in water alone and um...they NEED to.

onthetee
12-21-2007, 05:00 PM
I was happy to read that Hollie had moved. I think when she went home and lost nothing that week, it was a wake up call for her. It looked like she and her friend had a relationship that was food-centered, being-fat-together-centered, and I think Hollie realized how hard it would be to be successful where she was. You hate to break off a friendship with, "I can't be your friend anymore because you make me fat." It was probably easier to move.

Also, if I am placing other extended-outcome bets, I am going to guess that Julie does not stay married if she can get some sort of income stream from this. A lot of people came down on her for saying that Jillian was the only one who believed in her. That is disrespectful and a slam to her husband, only if it is untrue. If it is true, then she is fully justified in saying it. National TV may not be the best time and place, but it may just be a simple fact of her life.

When I remember how he acted when she was home, I think she was probably justified in her comment. He acted VERY macho, traditional-role, I-am-the-guy-so-that-makes-you-worth-less-than-me. He was totally surprised at how hard her work outs were and at how much she could do. Someone who truly believed in her would not have been surprised. A supportive husband would have said, "I knew that strength was there all along. She just needed to learn how to tap it." He seemed stunned and a little scared.

I am not a Julie fan, and I did not see any great transformation in her attitude while she was there. However, I think it was enough that she may want to build a different kind of life than she has had.

Diva
12-21-2007, 05:42 PM
I like your take on it and I can totally see as that is how I sometimes feel in my relationship. I honestly think my man is "afraid" of my losing this weight because he KNOWS what is underneath all of this and I think it makes him insecure. Sad but true....

sportmom
12-22-2007, 12:39 AM
interesting POV, tee. Makes me remember that guy teacher from last season who went home & left his wife.

Shay
12-23-2007, 05:03 PM
Here is a link to see side by side before and after pictures from Season 4:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22317095/displaymode/1107/s/2/

Now I can see the difference with Amber. Its interesting that Jim was technically the Biggest Loser overall. Neil was 2nd then Bill. Julie was still the #1 woman.

onthetee
12-23-2007, 05:29 PM
with the writer's strike, they should be getting desperate...

The Last Ten Pounds!!

I want a show that shows how hard it is to reach the last 10 pounds of your goal.

Or: Lifetime Maintenance

Show how the Biggest Losers do over time. Don't just bring back the success stories to the reunion shows, show EVERYONE.

chick_in_the_hat
12-23-2007, 07:42 PM
Amen to that, onthetee!! :D

Tina30
12-23-2007, 08:37 PM
I second that Onthetee!! The last 10lbs has been the hardest weight I've had to loose so far, and that is no joke!

sportmom
12-23-2007, 09:10 PM
Thanks for the link Shay, that was interesting to see it all in one place. I wonder if they will ever change the rules so that the real, actual biggest loser, is the one who wins the big bucks.

Poor Amber, say what you will, but that girl has some serious skeletal issues or something going on. Check out the photo. She's probably done real well considering what she's dealing with in her legs.

Shay
12-23-2007, 09:58 PM
I know that would make sense wouldn't it Sportmom? As we can see being kicked off campus has nothing to do with being the Biggest Loser.