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cara1980
08-23-2007, 01:52 PM
I got a box of Sunmaid raisins thinking they would be a good snack for when I have the munchies. The box claims its made of only grapes and sunshine but...........if its only grapes why is it so high in calores (130) and carbs (31g) and sugar (29), grapes dont have that much!!!


nelie
08-23-2007, 02:17 PM
if you ate as many grapes as were in a box of raisins, you would get that many calories as well. A box of raisins contains a lot of dried grapes. Dried fruits is one of the evils of "healthy" snacks :)

rockinrobin
08-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Oh yeah, raisins are litte sugar bombs in disguise. They're dried fruit, so they're much more condensed and concentrated then they are in their original state. The actual grape is a MUCH better choice. They're larger, filled with more water and therefore waaaay more filling.

It's all fine and dandy that they come in their own preportioned box and all and are easy to travel with, but they do not satisfy me, they're high in calories, they get my sugar levels all up in arms and are therefore on my list of things to avoid.


cara1980
08-23-2007, 02:33 PM
I know when I eat regular grapes the calorie count didnt seem that high. I thought I could eat a cup for like 40 calories and I didnt think it had that much sugar but I guess since grapes are larger than raisins, it takes more raisins to make a cup than grapes.

Heather
08-23-2007, 02:38 PM
I have just discovered frozen grapes (thanks to this site) and I adore them! they take longer to eat, and are great on a hot summer day!

nelie
08-23-2007, 02:46 PM
Something interesting, although I think it depends on what type of grape, I went to calorieking.com and looked up 50 raisins. According to them, that is nearly 80 calories. When I looked up 50 grapes, that was nearly 170 calories. Maybe grapes lose some of the sugar in the process? Or maybe they are using a different type of grape than raisins use.

GirlyGirlSebas
08-23-2007, 03:03 PM
There are two fruits that I must avoid, grapes and pineapple. These fruits really stop my weight loss.....I think it must be due to the sugar content. On the glycemic index (how a food is likely to cause your insulin levels to spike) grapes are at level 62 as compared to an apple which is at 34 or an orange which is at 47. Of course, a banana is at 89, pineapple is at 94 and watermelon is at 103. Thats why I never eat pineapple or watermelon and rarely eat bananas. Of course, I'm insulin resistant and fruits can really stop my weight loss. You might be blessed and be able to eat these fruits everyday.

Heather
08-23-2007, 03:05 PM
Rhonda -- I love all those high glycemic fruits you mentioned. For me, they aren't a problem, so I very well may consider myself blessed!

rockinrobin
08-23-2007, 03:09 PM
I agree with Rhonda. When I first started my journey, I completely avoided the fruits that she mentioned. They were almost as bad as eating cookies for me. I not only avoided those ones, but most in fact, except for a very, very rare apple.

As I was further down the road, I did add a bit more fruit into my diet, but it really has to be in small amounts and not so frequently. Fruit is something I will always have to watch.

Vanessa M.
08-23-2007, 03:10 PM
This may be my problem this week! OMG!
I got myself a box of Raisin Bran (need fiber!), which I never have, and have been fluctuating higher and higher all week. Wow....
I'll have to look for an alternative at the store today.
I'm mad now, lol.

GirlyGirlSebas
08-23-2007, 03:13 PM
You are blessed, Wyllen. I love fresh pineapple and watermelon...and it is very nutritious. I also have to watch my consumption of whole grain products. I can only eat 2 portions a day. More than that and I seem to plateau.

Janny O
08-23-2007, 03:14 PM
It's probably so high because of the Sunshine....I can contest to that!!
Look at what it did too me!!!! :D

rockinrobin
08-23-2007, 03:16 PM
Oh yeah. Raisin bran is high in calories and loaded with sugar. And there are many more cereals with way more fiber, way less sugar, carbs and calories.

Kashi Go Lean is an excellent choice, as is Fiber One cereal.

nelie
08-23-2007, 03:29 PM
Trader Joe's has a Fiber one type cereal, slightly higher calories because it does add some cane juice as a sweetener so it is good for those that don't want artificial sweeteners and/or don't want to eat foods with processed sugar.

Oh and I'd add too that I don't eat much fruit. Grapes are one thing I can't eat because I can't control myself with them or any other small edible fruit.

Glory87
08-23-2007, 03:50 PM
I love fruit and have no problems at all with any type of fresh fruit (I typically ate 2-3 servings per day when I was losing). Dried fruit is another story entirely - it is so calorie-dense. I always measure dried fruit and eat it rarely. I used to buy big bags of Trader Joe's dried granny smith apple rings, but I had difficulties with portion control, so I had to quit buying it :(

I consider dried fruit to be an "emergency snack." I have some dried mango in my desk drawer at work and I keep a couple of organic fruit leathers in my purse. Good if I really need it, but not an everyday thing.

JellyBelly1908
08-23-2007, 10:54 PM
There are two fruits that I must avoid, grapes and pineapple. These fruits really stop my weight loss.....I think it must be due to the sugar content. On the glycemic index (how a food is likely to cause your insulin levels to spike) grapes are at level 62 as compared to an apple which is at 34 or an orange which is at 47. Of course, a banana is at 89, pineapple is at 94 and watermelon is at 103. Thats why I never eat pineapple or watermelon and rarely eat bananas. Of course, I'm insulin resistant and fruits can really stop my weight loss. You might be blessed and be able to eat these fruits everyday.

Wow. :?: I survive on grapes and bananas, but I'm going to try 1 week without them to see how I do. I'm going to try apples, pears, peaches, and strawberries. Is there a link that will give the glycemic index of any food? I'm googlin', but I can only find limited databases. :dizzy:

Vanessa M.
08-23-2007, 10:56 PM
I chose the Raisin Bran because I know I like it and I totally have room for a little bit higher cals just for the sake of fiber.... But I admit I didn't go through all the nutrition info and even look at the sugar content.... Guess that'll learn me, huh? lol
I just can't stand the Kashi Go Lean.... I normally love "health food" but that was just like dry sticks and leaves to me, lol! I'll try Fiber One this week.... Things sure sre different in my body these days... I never thougth I'd have a fiber problem, lol!!

Glory87
08-23-2007, 11:15 PM
Kashi Go Lean Crunch tastes a lot better than regular Kashi Go Lean (better texture too).

traci in training
08-23-2007, 11:48 PM
nutritiondata.com has all the lowdown on glycemic index, water content, carbs, EVERYTHING! It even reccomends better choices. I go there and read about bad foods just because by the time you read all the data you can convince yourself you don't want the crap anymore. You can also change serving size which is handy sometimes.

Heather
08-24-2007, 12:47 AM
I think we have to be careful about interpreting the glycemic index, however. It's not necessarily a perfect measure of what a specific food will do in a specific person's body.

For example, the GI of a food can vary depending on the kind of food, its ripeness, the length of time it was stored, how it was cooked, etc. And the foods have been studied in isolation, but eating a meal of different foods may also affect the glycemic index. For example, fats and proteins can make a meal sit in the stomach longer, which reduces a food's GI.

All of which is to say that any of us might react differently to foods, depending on a number of different factors...

math puppy
08-24-2007, 02:45 AM
omg after reading that thread i want grapes so bad now! lol.
i consider myself blessed because i love grapes and can stop myself at one cup... watermelon is another story compleatly!!!

Idealmuse
08-24-2007, 03:01 AM
To add what W. said you also have to take into consideration something might have a higher GI but you might only eat a very small bit of it so in essence its not much worse or even better then eatting a lot of something with a lower GI (other then it's more volume) that you might pig out on.

TempleBody
08-24-2007, 07:22 AM
Wow lots of good information here. Thanks for the big up on the Raisins. I just bought a pack of the little snack boxes. I didn't even think to check out the label. I just thought about throwing them in rice (which is soooo yummy!!).

rockinrobin
08-24-2007, 07:29 AM
I didn't even think to check out the label.

Reading labels is really a must. There's lots of good information in them. And some surprising info as well. IMO, it's a great way to keep abreast of what we're ingesting. And that's what it's all about really. Being AWARE and on top of what we're eating. The more info we have, the better. When we know better, we do better. I'm ALWAYS learning new things.

I wish everything came with a label, like baked goods and fruit and veggies, meats. Then we'd know exactly the portions sizes and the calorie counts and all the other nutritional info. Gosh, that would be so cool. :)

GirlyGirlSebas
08-24-2007, 07:36 AM
All of which is to say that any of us might react differently to foods, depending on a number of different factors...

Very true. That is why Southbeach teaches us to eat protein with every meal and snack. The protein helps to keep the insulin levels from spiking too much.

cara1980
08-24-2007, 08:19 AM
I love to eat fruit. We did a garden this year and hd a ton of watermelons! I love all the high glycemic fruits. Good thing I dont do the glycemic diet :P

I normally dont eat raisings, but I love the good sense yogurt covered raisins. Unfortunately they love me as well. WIth 140 calories and 5 grams of fat in 1/4 cup. I'll use the regular raisins to mix in so the fat count isnt as high.

royalsfan1
08-24-2007, 08:25 AM
I love raisins! Yeah, they're high in calories because they're just grapes with all the water dried out of them...but they're also pretty high in fiber. I use them as dessert on the days I'm wanting one...130 calories is much better than 300+ on a regular dessert and to me they're just as sweetly satisfying. In fact, sometimes I don't even eat them all! I think, for most people, they fall into that category of higher calorie "health" foods that can be ingested in moderation. Like granola and trail mixes...

Glory87
08-24-2007, 10:39 AM
Wow lots of good information here. Thanks for the big up on the Raisins. I just bought a pack of the little snack boxes. I didn't even think to check out the label. I just thought about throwing them in rice (which is soooo yummy!!).

I think putting a few in rice is a GREAT idea - they are calorically dense, but they are a healthy food. A few in rice is a great way to jazz up rice and making your food interesting! I make a great quinoa with slivered almonds and dried cranberries!!!

I also think raisins in snackboxes is a genius. More food should come perfectly individually portioned, it makes life easier for me.

Robin41
08-24-2007, 10:58 AM
I only eat fruit that comes naturally in single serving sizes, nectarines, peaches, bananas, apples. I can't trust myself with anything like melons or berries because the "it's fruit, it's good for you" part of my brain overwhelms the "calories still count" part of my brain.

I was in the store yesterday wondering what I was going to do once the summer fruit season is over. The stuff that comes in during the winter from Chile, or wherever, just isn't the same.

Idealmuse
08-24-2007, 12:29 PM
Re: South Beach... I don't do South Beach but the way I eat is faily close and yeah that pairing of protein really does help keep any sugar spikes down. One of the reasons I can still have lattes! :)