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Redeemed
07-23-2007, 12:39 PM
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has tried this. From what I've read, it is safe to do so for 1-2 weeks. I am a little worried about not having enough protein during that time.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated :)


Jasmine31
07-23-2007, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't recommend it. I do think upping your fruit and veggie intake as part of a balanced eating plan is a great idea though. On that note, I do stick to fruit only til noon. (Diamond Harvey, Fit For Life book, 2003)

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 01:48 PM
Thanks for responding Jasmine----

Why specifically would you not reccomend it?? Is it dangerous? Even for a short amount of time??


Jasmine31
07-23-2007, 02:27 PM
Where have you been reading? Just off the top of my head it seems like something that would completely FREAK your body out! You don't want to freak your body out, you want to help your body out.

When I originally got into the fruit thing I even looked briefly at being a fruitopian. Basically eating ONLY fruit. Not something I would of been able to stick to though I am sure. I have read that doing that is very similiar and that people who do may exhibit signs similiar to anorexia nervosa. Congrats, I could trade one eating disorder for another.

From all I have learned I have found the best way to eat is to keep with a lifestyle that does not discourage any whole food groups. There are so many nutrients in such a wide variety of foods and we need them. What works for me? Calorie counting and eating mostly whole, unprocessed foods, keeping treat foods/fast foods to a minimum, exercising.

If you are interested in being a vegetarian we do have a forum for that however. That would be a safer way to go. As far as detox goes, just eating more fruits and veggies will help your body to clean up. Maybe try a bunch of fruits and veggies along with some whole grains and protein. There are alot of us in the whole foods forum that follow a similiar lifestyle, or try to.

This needs to be a new healthy lifestyle. What are you going to do after 2 weeks of "detoxing"? You will lose weight at first, but along with it water and muscle. After you get ahold of real food again, you will probably binge and pack on more than you are now. Just my 2 cents.

nelie
07-23-2007, 03:57 PM
I read that (fruit and veg detox) in "If Buddha came to dinner" and I actually thought about trying it but then I figured my body would freak out on me. It is only meant for a very short period of time, the author recommended even doing it for 1 day before going to the next phase (adding another food group) if you were doing it for the first time.

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 05:19 PM
I was planning to do it for only one week... or two at the max.

I have been reading that it is good for actually detoxing your body which is my concern... if I lose weight too then that will be an added bonus.

I just came back from vacation and ate all kinds of crap. I just want to cleanse my body then I plan to go back to weight watchers. I don't want to do anything dangerous, I just really want to be cleaner on the inside (if that makes any sense)

I do appreciate all of the responses :)

marbleflys
07-23-2007, 05:28 PM
JMHO.....why don't you just concentrate on eating real, wholesome food in moderation and not eating "all kinds of crap"?

Drink a good quantity of water, herbal tea, avoid processed food and fats/sugar, get a exercise too. it's much healthier than a fasting "detox" and you WON'T lose muscle, feel too famished to exercise and lower your metabolism which in the long run, makes you gain weight.

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 09:09 PM
JMHO.....why don't you just concentrate on eating real, wholesome food in moderation and not eating "all kinds of crap"?

Drink a good quantity of water, herbal tea, avoid processed food and fats/sugar, get a exercise too. it's much healthier than a fasting "detox" and you WON'T lose muscle, feel too famished to exercise and lower your metabolism which in the long run, makes you gain weight.


Yes.. I totally agree which is why I asked the question in the first place. I don't normally eat "all kinds of crap" I had a bad week and I know that I ate things that I shouldn't have and probably have all kinds of toxins inside my body. I found this other detox thing that is not as restrictive. I know that only eating fruits for a long period of time is dangerous.... which is why I wondered for how long would it be safe.

I think you have the wrong impression of me... I am not looking for some quick way to lose weight. I am honestly trying to rid my body of potential toxins that I may have taken in last week.

For the most part, for the past year I have had good eating habits. I eat plenty of water, whole foods and exercise at least 3 times a week. I am not an idiot, I just had a bad week. Please don't assume that I don't do the things you listed. I HAD A BAD WEEK!!! Maybe you have never had one, but I did.



This one seems better because it does allow for protein.

What to eat when detoxing
We will start are detoxing discussion with a list of foods to include when on the detoxification diet. Any combination of the foods listed below can be used, provided that the combination provides a nutritional and balanced daily diet.

Fruit - it is important to eat plenty of fresh fruit when detoxing, and any type of fruit can be used, including apples, oranges and more exotic fruits. Fruit juices are fine as well, provided that they are made with 100% real fruit and contain no artificial preservatives or added sugar.
Vegetables - as with fruit, it is important to eat plenty of vegetables while detoxing Some of the most popular vegetables for detoxing the body include onions, carrots, turnips, cabbage, bean sprouts, peppers, mushrooms, corn, leeks, cauliflower, broccoli and Brussels sprouts.
Beans and lentils - any kind of beans are great for detoxing the body, including dried beans and beans canned in water. Beans canned in oil should be avoided. Some of the most popular beans for detoxing include kidney beans, lima beans, pinto beans, black eyed peas and lentils.
Tofu and quorn - These two popular meat substitutes are excellent choices for detoxing.
Oats - oats are great for sprinkling over fresh fruit or for use in a porridge. Oats can be sweetened and enhanced with honey or fresh fruit.
Fresh fish - fish can be a major part of the diet while detoxing. Some of the healthiest varieties of fish include cod, salmon, mackerel, monkfish and trout.
Live yogurt - Live yogurt is a great choice for detoxing, as it contains valuable nutrients and beneficial bacteria which help to sooth the digestive tract during the detox process.



What to avoid when detoxing
Just as there are foods that should be included in the detox diet, there are foods that must be avoided when detoxing. These foods include:

Red meat, chicken, turkey and other poultry
Processed meat products, such as sausages and pate
Milk, cream, cheese and other dairy products
Eggs, butter and margarine
Snacks like potato chips
Salted nuts
Chocolate and sweets
Sugar, particularly refined sugar
Jams and jellies
Alcohol, tea, coffee and soft drinks
Salt
Store bought salad dressings
Following this plan for detoxing several times a year is a great way to keep your overall health at its best, and to avoid the problems associated with pollution and stress. This plan for detoxing is simple, easy to follow, and can be used whenever you feel you need a lift.

Jasmine31
07-23-2007, 10:33 PM
You didn't have to yell at her. Okay, we get it, you had a bad week. Pick up the pieces and move on.

As far as if it is safe to do only fruit and veggies and not much protein for a week, you are asking the wrong crowd, we are not your doctor. We do not know if your body can handle it or not. Heck, even "the experts" can't agree on which diet is best or safe or not safe. Just use some good common sense.

What you just posted, fish, yogurt, beans , fruit, veggies, sounds good to me.

Heather
07-23-2007, 11:09 PM
From what I've read in the medical community, there is really usually no need to 'detox' our bodies -- our livers and kidneys etc are pretty good at that on their own!

If you read the information about detox carefully from the sites advertising them, you'll notice they are very vague about what the actual toxins are, etc. If there really IS a problem, usually we can identify it more specifically.

I would be concerned not just about protein, but also fat! And other nutrients! We really do need "balance" in our diets to give our bodies everything they need.

If you think there is something wrong with you, however, it might be best to seek help from a doctor.

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 11:10 PM
You didn't have to yell at her. Okay, we get it, you had a bad week. Pick up the pieces and move on.

As far as if it is safe to do only fruit and veggies and not much protein for a week, you are asking the wrong crowd, we are not your doctor. We do not know if your body can handle it or not. Heck, even "the experts" can't agree on which diet is best or safe or not safe. Just use some good common sense.

What you just posted, fish, yogurt, beans , fruit, veggies, sounds good to me.


First of all... I didn't mean to yell... I typed that in caps because it seemed to be a point that was missed and I wanted everyone to get it. She seemed to be making sweeping assumptions about me... It really didn't seem like she understood that it was a one week thing and not somethign that I was struggeling with continuously.

Second... my original question was if anyone had tried it, not if it was safe. I am not looking for medical advice from anyone on here.... just if people had any experience with it.

I thought this forum was for people to share their experiences... so I asked a question I was curious about. I had read about it and just wanted to know if anyone here could share any real life feed back from trying it. That is it and that is all.

When you said you wouldn't try it.... I asked why because I wanted to know if you had tried it, or what exactly was your reasoning.

I have not defended doing a fruit fast.... I wanted information ( I can't say that enough)

Anyway, thanks for actually responding to me... I am not looking for a fight or anything just some insight and encouragement. Sorry if I am rambeling but for some reason it seems that you all aren't understanding what I am saying.

Heather
07-23-2007, 11:13 PM
Redeemed -- I may not have answered your question either. If not, I'm sorry!

This really is a very supportive site, but as with all online communication, there are problems because it's hard to react to people when you can't really see how they intend to say something. It's hard to get tone from smilies! :D

And then, sometimes people get excited about a topic and tend to answer the question we want to answer and not the question that was asked! :)

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 11:17 PM
From what I've read in the medical community, there is really usually no need to 'detox' our bodies -- our livers and kidneys etc are pretty good at that on their own!

If you read the information about detox carefully from the sites advertising them, you'll notice they are very vague about what the actual toxins are, etc. If there really IS a problem, usually we can identify it more specifically.

I would be concerned not just about protein, but also fat! And other nutrients! We really do need "balance" in our diets to give our bodies everything they need.

If you think there is something wrong with you, however, it might be best to seek help from a doctor.

THANKS!! All good points... and no, I don't really feel that there is anything wrong with me per se'. I just had been doing so well for over a year and then goofed up and was reading all this stuff about needing to cleanse your body frequently. Just goes to show that anything can be found on the internet. :)

Redeemed
07-23-2007, 11:21 PM
Redeemed -- I may not have answered your question either. If not, I'm sorry!

This really is a very supportive site, but as with all online communication, there are problems because it's hard to react to people when you can't really see how they intend to say something. It's hard to get tone from smilies! :D

And then, sometimes people get excited about a topic and tend to answer the question we want to answer and not the question that was asked! :)

Maybe I need to start using smilies more often :D

But, I did appreciate your response. It just seems like people were reading more into my post than was actually there. I thought I was getting e-jumped :lol:

But... oh well... life goes on. I know I am new here and obviously don't know all the ins and outs and what sets people off :shrug:

Heather
07-23-2007, 11:23 PM
I thought I was getting e-jumped

:lol: heh. I never heard that before!

As for smilies, they really can help!! :D

Glad you found the info helpful!

Jasmine31
07-24-2007, 12:39 AM
From what I've read, it is safe to do so for 1-2 weeks. I am a little worried about not having enough protein during that time

If it is allegedly safe, why would you be worried?

Second... my original question was if anyone had tried it, not if it was safe.

Why specifically would you not reccomend it?? Is it dangerous? Even for a short amount of time??

Is it dangerous? and Is it safe? Are the same question to me.

Okay enough beating around the bush.

I DO NOT THINK IT IS SAFE. I DO THINK IT IS DANGEROUS.

There is so much crap out there on the net I get a headache trying to weed thru it all sometimes.

I am not looking for medical advice from anyone on here.... just if people had any experience with it.

I thought this forum was for people to share their experiences... so I asked a question I was curious about. I had read about it and just wanted to know if anyone here could share any real life feed back from trying it. That is it and that is all.

Yes we are a very supportive group here. The reason I mentioned we are not your doctor is cause what could be safe for one person, may NOT be safe for another. There is no way to tell. If you personally question whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, chances are it's a bad idea. Stick with your gut instincts.

Anyway, thanks for actually responding to me... I am not looking for a fight or anything just some insight and encouragement. Sorry if I am rambeling but for some reason it seems that you all aren't understanding what I am saying.

I don't want to fight with you either, just trying to help you reach a safe resolution. :D I think we do understand. You basically want someone to come along and stick a stamp of approval on your idea. Or for someone to come along and say they have done it and they are fine and it is completely safe. This is YOUR body. I would be very leary of taking someone else's word for it. You know yourself best.

Heck I have heard twice in the last year or so of two people dying from drinking too much water.

Then there is always the whole weight loss surgery debate. Good idea, bad idea? There are some people who may attest that it saved their life and they were able to over come extreme health problems etc, etc. Then there will be someone who comes on and says there friend/family member is dead cause of that surgery.

This is why I say you need to be very careful. You know your body better than anyone else.

From what I've read in the medical community, there is really usually no need to 'detox' our bodies -- our livers and kidneys etc are pretty good at that on their own!

I agree, don't over load your body with a bunch of medicines, garbage and you should be fine. Forget about last week and work on this week the right way. :)

nelie
07-24-2007, 09:13 AM
The book that I read that actually suggested a short term fruit/veg detox actually suggested easing into it, rather than jumping into it. So the author recommended slowly cutting back on dairy, meat, grains, etc for weeks before actually doing the fruit/veg detox. Again the author suggested that you only do it for a very short period of time especially if it was your first time. Also the author suggested easing back into other food groups slowly and methodically. I don't know if I mentioned it before but the author also suggested concentrating on vegetables more than fruits as well and also there was a specific list of vegetables and fruits the author listed for the detox.

Personally, I agree that I don't think we need a detox but I'd be wary of just jumping into a fruit/veg detox. Your body may not react well. If you truly are interested in doing it, then I'd slowly start increasing fruits/veggies and decreasing other stuff to build up to your fruit/veg days.

Redeemed
07-24-2007, 09:29 AM
OK Jasmine

It still doesn't seem like you get what I was saying :shrug: Maybe I wasn't totally clear in my original posts so I will try to restate what I meant to say....

I read about the necessity of detoxing your body, expecially when you may have been exposed to excess "toxins" over a short period of time. The things that I read said that detoxing your body is good for your skin and overall health because your body expells toxins.

Most important to me is that my body is healthy, not slim. I am/was curious if anyone had any experience with it. And, I always like to hear peoples reasoning for either agreeing or disaggreeing with something. And then, I can make a decision based on what I think is best for me and my body.

The point was.... I wasn't looking for someone to say it is good or bad, I just wanted to hear about any experiences someone might have had. Sheesh---- I wonder if everytime I ask if someone has tried such and such it is going to be assumed that I am looking for validation.

Please don't be offended by this but... I am a grown woman, if I want to do something I will--- I don't need to go on a message board and get someone to agree with what I want to do before I do it. Once again.... I was just curious, I am not advocating it or saying how well I did on it and trying to get everyone to see it "my" way. I really thought that this was a supportive site, but I really feel that I have been attacked for things that were assumed.

You said "I think we do understand. You basically want someone to come along and stick a stamp of approval on your idea. Or for someone to come along and say they have done it and they are fine and it is completely safe." (forgive me, I don't know how to quote like you did) which is absolutely untrue. I just wanted to here experiences... good or bad... that's it.

Anyway, I hope you are having a wonderful day and there are no hard feelings :D I don't want to be your e-enemy:)

Redeemed
07-24-2007, 09:36 AM
The book that I read that actually suggested a short term fruit/veg detox actually suggested easing into it, rather than jumping into it. So the author recommended slowly cutting back on dairy, meat, grains, etc for weeks before actually doing the fruit/veg detox. Again the author suggested that you only do it for a very short period of time especially if it was your first time. Also the author suggested easing back into other food groups slowly and methodically. I don't know if I mentioned it before but the author also suggested concentrating on vegetables more than fruits as well and also there was a specific list of vegetables and fruits the author listed for the detox.

Personally, I agree that I don't think we need a detox but I'd be wary of just jumping into a fruit/veg detox. Your body may not react well. If you truly are interested in doing it, then I'd slowly start increasing fruits/veggies and decreasing other stuff to build up to your fruit/veg days.


Thanks fellow Marylander!! That sounds sensible. I'm not really sure that I am interested in doing it... I really just wanted some information that maybe I couldn't find on a website. Some real life experiences from people that are not paid endorsers.

I need to be careful of how I post and how much people will read or add onto what I am actually saying... I want to protect my e-reputation :lol::lol:

Redeemed
07-24-2007, 09:52 AM
You guys are rough on newbies :stars:

I feel like I need a lawyer. Someone should have told me that everything I say can and will be used against me :stress::stress:

Well, I've got my defenses up now :judge: I'll make sure to put disclaimers on my questions from now on... something like this:

Any questions asked by this poster do not necessarily reflect the views nor desires of said poster. Poster has made no endorsement of said product. Unless poster specifically states that she does or will do something... it is to be assumed that poster has not nor will not. Poster does not expect accurate information from any who respond. Poster does not expect responders to know exactly what is right for her and her body. Poster will count all information received as personal opinions and not medical expertise unless responder has proven their expertise in a given subject. Poster reserves the right to agree or disagree with any and all respondents. Any responses may or may not change or impact the life of said poster

I may have to update that from time to time :lol:

nelie
07-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Thanks fellow Marylander!! That sounds sensible. I'm not really sure that I am interested in doing it... I really just wanted some information that maybe I couldn't find on a website. Some real life experiences from people that are not paid endorsers.

I need to be careful of how I post and how much people will read or add onto what I am actually saying... I want to protect my e-reputation :lol::lol:

Well you know that there are a lot of weird ideas out there and sometimes someone will put something on a webpage without explaining the reasonings behind it or try to sell something by coming up with some wacky idea.

I know posters on 3FC love sharing their ideas and information so sometimes you may not exactly get the answer you want. The book I read ("If Buddha came to dinner") was quite interesting and as I said I had really thought about doing the fruit/veg detox myself based on information in the book but never went through with it.

Unfortunately, a lot of diet scams are actually based on the entire detox idea which can be dangerous so I know other posters just post their concerns about such things just from what we've seen in the past. Of course e-communications can sometimes seem like they aren't as friendly as they are meant to be so I hope you aren't dissuaded from continued posting :)

marbleflys
07-24-2007, 12:08 PM
I don't have time to do the elaborate posts...sorry....no e-jumping on my end either....but I do think that our colons are "self-cleaning" (this comes from my doctor) and don't need a drastic upheaval.......which just might happen if you switch to only fruits/veggies.

following a lighter, fresh food diet with adequate protein and less white stuff is always a good idea.

and BTW, NO ONE is perfect....(except for my cats) or we would need this website.

Jasmine31
07-24-2007, 12:54 PM
Now you got me looking stuff up redeemed! :lol:

I would not mind juicing. Any one done that? Maybe next year when I get my taxes back I will get a juicer.

Heather
07-24-2007, 01:26 PM
I don't know much about it, but I would think one of the downsides of juicing is that it removes a lot of the fiber... just a thought! :D

Jasmine31
07-24-2007, 01:37 PM
I was wondering about that. I seen it said it removes the pulp. lol Well I get plenty of fiber now as is so if this was in addition to what I am doing now, then I should be okay.

Redeemed
07-24-2007, 07:45 PM
Now you got me looking stuff up redeemed! :lol:

I would not mind juicing. Any one done that? Maybe next year when I get my taxes back I will get a juicer.

Juicing as in making your own juice??

I got a juicer last year from my MIL that is still in the box... the only thing that I know is that it is a lot easier to eat one apple vs. juicing a whole cup of apple juice... and if you are counting calories, you will get a lot more with the juice vs. just eating the fruit.

Jasmine31
07-24-2007, 09:58 PM
No. I make smoothies for that in my blender. :)

I am talking vegetable juice!