LA Weight Loss - New Feel Full Menu Plan

I hadn't been in to my COD in a couple of weeks (I've been working 60-65 hours a week!!), so when I went in this morning, I was shocked to find out that they changed to the FFP. The counselor I was talking to didn't really seem to know what was going on, and she was going to put me on plan 1, despite my 7-15 hours of exercise/week. Needless to say, I wasn't terribly enthusiastic. 10+ hour work days and 1-2 hours of exercise don't mix well with a 1200-1500 calorie diet, I'm afraid. So I'm going back in on Tuesday and they're going to call the dietician to find out which plan I should be on. This is complicated slightly by the fact that I'm technically on maintenance, but I'm trying to drop a few pounds that I carelessly gained back, so we'll see how it goes. Does anyone know which plan they're giving for exercise? My counselor seemed to think you go up by one plan, but from plan 1 to plan 2, there's no increase in protein, which seems rather unreasonable. Any thoughts?

I think you are wrong on the protein part. It goes from 2 up to 2.5 and everything else goes up 1 except the fruit. I got moved from a plan 1 to a 2 because I kept telling them I was hungry for the 3 weeks I was on it. Plan two is: P2.5, S3, F2, V3, D2, Fa2

Sarah, I was on red w/ lites and they put me on plan 2. I exercise just as much as you do and I work on my feet very long days. I have completely stalled since being switched to the new plan and I think its cause I am not getting enough calories for my exercise. They wanted to put me on plan 1 but I made them call the dietician and she said plan 2. The COD seems to think I am getting too many calories so that is why I have stalled so they want me to switch to shakes which are less in calories than the lites. I will try that. I am still a little skeptical. My sis exercises a lot too and she is on plan 3 without lites and she is losing well.

Time will tell I guess! Good luck to us all!

Just bumping this up, and wanted to share that I started this plan today. Wish me luck :)

Thanks for bumping up this thread -- I will read it thoroughly! Thanks for the info.

I'm bumping this great information up.

So I've been back on LAWL for over a week now and I haven't seen a durn bit of difference! As a matter of fact, I have GAINED 1 1/2 pounds!! I just don't know what I am doing wrong! This is so discouraging. The first time I did it I lost 7 1/2 pounds in the FIRST week. It really just seems like I will never get this weight off! I'm following this new "Feel Full" plan. Anyone else out there following this plan and having the same problem? Any thoughts, advide, encoragement or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

PLEASE! DON'T get discouraged!! I gained about the same amount in my first week, lost it then gained it again in my 2nd week, and here I am 5 weeks later, and I am down 13 pounds! You have to realize you have just totally stopped a moving train and made it do a U turn! So just give it time, Even though you arent losing weight, think about how great the inside of your body is doing with all that healthy food! I have to think of this as a life change, not a weight change!

"You have to realize you have just totally stopped a moving train and made it do a U turn!"
What a great way to put things into perspective, Kimberly! That's an excellent point. Thank you so much!
So at what point do you think I should start worrying that this "Feel Full" plan isn't working?

Have you done takeoff? Thats always my kick in the kaboose, (ha ha I made a joke...) Other than that I would listen to your counselors, and of course there are a lot of very LAWL intelligent guys and gals on this board!

I used to be on the blue plan and now I don't have a color, but I think Videochick is right that the closer you get to your goal, the less you get, so I don't think everyone is on the same plan. I changed to the new plan, but I can only have 2 1/2 p, 3 v, 2 fru, 3 s, 2 d, 2 fat, 2 lites.

But I want to know more about oranges and grapefruit for FF. What is FF? I'm relatively new to this site, so I don't know all of the abbreviations yet. Fill me in!! Is there a legend for all of these abbreviations or do I just figure it out as I go? I think I might have a couple already. Don't laugh (well... you can if you want) is DH dear husband? What about COD - is that Counselor on Duty? Any others frequently used that I would need to know?
Maia

Maia, the abbreviations take a bit to get used to. FF is fast forward. Fast forward is a two day program where you eat no starch for those two days, and only fruit you eat is either oranges, grapefruit, or canaloupe. You also only eat green vegetables and light protein.

You have DH right. COD is Center of Doom...your local LAWL centre :)

Thanks Patsy. I would have never guessed that last one! Also thanks for the info on FF. I'll do a search within this forum to find out specifics. It sounds like something I might want to try!!

Maia, if you look at Woman's World Acceleration Thread, you will find more info about take off (basically same as fast forward). Someone correct me if I am wrong - but fast forward is if you do not do LA lites or bars, so you get unlimited protein and green vegetables for the two days, and eat 1 cantaloupe over 2 days (don't know how many grapefruit or oranges as I haven't done it that way...)

Basically up to once every two weeks (some here are trying it once every week), you eat the fast forward or take off menu, the other days you follow regular LAWL diet.

Here is the Fast Forward plan (or for "Old School" people like me, it used to be called Jet Start and was done for 3 days instead of only 2!)

FAST FORWARD PROGRAM INSTRUCTIONS (UNLIMITED)

The purpose of the Fast Forward weight loss program is to assist your body in reaching the optimum chemical balance so that, when the next phase of your program begins, you will lose weight in the fastest, safest, and most enjoyable way possible.

Changing food composition can promote quick weight loss, decrease bloating, improve energy, and minimize hunger.

Use this menu for two days during the Fast Forward weight loss phase. Select your foods from the list below.

YOUR DAILY MENU:

Unlimited proteins

Unlimited raw, green vegetables

16oz Fast Forward drink mixed with 16 oz water; sip throughout the day (Refrigerate drink bottle after opening)

¼- ½ tsp Morton Lite Salt

Water – eight 8oz glasses (Perrier, seltzer water, or mineral water may be substituted)

NO OTHER FOODS SHOULD BE USED DURING THIS PHASE – avoid eating bread, pasta, milk, starchy vegetables such as potatoes, peas and corn, and condiments (relish and ketchup). Additional foods will be introduced in the next phase of your program.

Feel free to use butter, margarine, or oil (any type) in preparing your foods. Use oil and vinegar, LA Salad Dressings, or light salad dressings on your salads.

FOOD SELECTIONS:


Protein Choices – Unlimited

Can be consumed with skin, but no breading

Beef

Arm roast, chuck roast, club steak, filet mignon, flank steak, ground meat, round steak, rump roast, sirloin steak, T-bone steak

Chicken and Turkey
Breast, drumsticks, ground, thighs, wings

Eggs

If you choose to have eggs, please limit to 2 per day

Egg Substitute

Plain varieties, such as plain Egg Beaters
Lamb

Chop, crown roast, cubed, flank, loin

Liver

Beef, calf, chicken

Pork

Tenderloin

Seafood

Fish: bluefish, calamari, cod, crayfish, flounder, grouper, haddock, halibut, king mackerel, lake perch, mahi mahi, orange roughy, pike, Pollock, red snapper, salmon, scrod, sea bass, sole striped bass, swordfish, tilapia, trout, tuna (fresh or canned, packed in water only), walleye, whitefish, yellow tail
Shellfish: clams, crab, lobster, mussels, oysters, scallops, shrimp

Veal

Chop, cubed, cutlet, rump

Vegetarian Proteins

Seiten – 4 oz per serving
Soy cheese – 3 slices (approximately 2 oz) per serving
Tofu – 1 cup (8oz) per serving

Vegetable Choices – Unlimited

Use fresh, raw vegetables or steamed vegetables

Asparagus, bok choy, broccoli, celery, collard greens, cucumbers, endive, escarole, green beans, green cabbage, green onions/scallions, green peppers, iceberg lettuce, kale, romaine lettuce, spinach, string beans, swiss chard, zucchini

Other Choices

You may also include…

Artificial Sweetener – up to 3 packets per day
Cheese, park skim, reduced fat, light – 2 slices per day (great for omelets!)
Cream cheese, light – 1 Tbsp. per day (great for dipping vegetables!)
Creamer, fat free, non dairy – 1 Tbsp per day (Great for coffee!)
Mayonnaise, light – 1 Tbsp. per day (Great for salads!)
Mustard, brown, dijon, spicy – 1 Tbsp. per day (Great tasting!)
Seasonings – any seasoning may be used to enhance the flavor of food as long as it contains no sugar or salt

Beverages

Coffee or tea, caffeinated – up to two 6 oz cups per day
Coffee of tea, decaffeinated – unlimited
Diet soda – up to 24 oz per day
Hot fresh lemon water – up to 2 cups per day this acts as a natural diuretic to relieve a full or bloated feeling)


MENU SUGGESTION

This menu is a sample to help you plan your own menu. To have an enjoyable and successful Fast Forward weight loss program experience, choose foods from the list that you like best.

Breakfast

Fast Forward drink
Cheese omelet – ½ cup Egg Beaters, 2 slices light American cheese, sprinkle with a portion of Morton Lite Salt
Coffee or tea with Splenda and fat free, non-dairy creamer

Mid-Morning Snack

Fast Forward drink
Raw, green vegetables dipped in salad dressing
Rotisserie chicken breast, skin removed

Lunch

Large tossed green salad with salad dressing
Tuna salad – tuna (canned, water packed) with 1 Tbsp light mayonnaise

Mid-Afternoon Snack

Fast Forward Drink
Cucumbers, sprinkle with a portion of Morton’s Lite Salt
Hard boiled egg, sliced

Dinner

Fast Forward Drink
Sirloin steak, grilled
Large tossed green salad with salad dressing
Asparagus, sautéed, sprinkle with remainder portion of Morton’s Lite Salt

Evening Snack

Raw, green celery and cucumbers dipped in salad dressing

Thanks for all the info guys! I see, so FF is the equivalent of Take Off without the Lites? In anyones opinion - should I do this instead of Take Off?

I usually do Take Off, but have never done FF - is one more beneficial?

This is my understanding - and I could be wrong, so if I am please correct me :)

Fast forward is used by almost everyone the first two days of starting the diet.

Take off is done by those who use LA lites as part of their LAWL program. Take off limits your protein and vegetable intake and allows you to eat your lites.

Fast forward is done by those who are on the food only diet.

I was told by COD I can't do Take off as I don't do lites. That either I do lites or I don't, I can't do them for a couple of days here and there. I just do fast forward.

I really don't know if one is more beneficial than the other. I think they allow unlimited veggies and protein to make up for the calories we would have gotten by eating the lites...

Now please understand it's been years since I have been to a COD - and so much has changed - but my understanding was that Jet Start...or Fast Forward as it is now called...was done at the very start of your diet to "shock" your system and (to quote my counselor) "prime your body to start shedding the fat"! The first time I did Fast Forward - and mind you, I don't know much about it only being done two days and I know nothing about this "Fast Forward Juice" - I lost 7 pounds in 3 days. Yeah, sure it was mostly water weight, but we take any loss we can get, right ladies? ;) I also never did the "Take Off". From what I understand you do that now ever 14 days or something like that? I'm not realy sure how I feel about that. I would think it would be good to do occasionally - like if you had plateaued or something like that - but throwing that at your system OFTEN........eh, that just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But then again, last time I checked I didn't have M.D. after my name, so what do I know? :) Anywho....I'll quit rambling now. :) I'm just happy cause I finally saw a three pound drop on the scale! WHOO HOO! :) And thanks again for all you words of support and encouragement! Ya'll have been great!

I hope this is the right thread for this post. I went to my COD this morning and they had the new portion plates for sale. I needed a new book, and was told that they got rid of all the old books because the new plans (numbered ones) are starting Tuesday, since monday is a holiday and they are closed. The counselor found an old book and modified it for my plan (I am on Red 1 and they did not have any more of those). So, next Saturday when I WI, I will get the new book and plan.

I am kind of nervous about it because a lot of people here have posted slow downs or weight gains witht he new plans and I have really been doing well on the color-coded one. I have a really long way to go (about 80 pounds) and don't want to slow down now.

Roberta

So much great information on this thread! Thanks to everyone for sharing their tips!

As for the new plan, I really like it. I was a "restart" in July and my weight didn't budge all month. Since they changed me to the new plan and after the 2 days of TO, I have lost weight at every weigh in. The plan is very easy- even the four week express- and I find it more satisfying.

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I am on Red 1 w/o lites. Can anyone tell me what new plan (numbered) that would translate to? I can't go in to the COD until saturday and I am dying to know what my new plan will be. I read this thread from beginning to end and didn't see it.

It's like my new mantra is "God give me patience, and I want it RIGHT NOW". :)

Thanks
Roberta

:lol:Great mantra!!! lol

I am on Red 1 w/o lites. Can anyone tell me what new plan (numbered) that would translate to? I can't go in to the COD until saturday and I am dying to know what my new plan will be. I read this thread from beginning to end and didn't see it.

It's like my new mantra is "God give me patience, and I want it RIGHT NOW". :)

Thanks
Roberta

I would guess plan 4, but it really depends. I was on purple with lites and my aunt was on red w/lites, and we were both put on plan 3. So I think it depends where you are on the plan, how far until you would move down to next plan, etc... sorry I can't be more help. Maybe someone else will post some more info.

Kathryn

Thanks Kathryn. I was thinking 4 from what everyone else was posting, and I guess I will have to wait until Saturday to be sure.

:lol:Great mantra!!! lol

thanks, curiousone, I thought so too. :)

I also was switched to the feel full plan without any warning whatsoever. The counselor I got on the day they switched me was probably the worst counselor in my whole center. When I questioned her about any part of it her standard answer was "because they say it works better". I almost had a panic attack in her office and she really didn't respond at all.

On the color plans (I started at red and moved down to blue) I had lost 22# in just over 2.5 months. Things were going great. I NEVER cheated, which for me was a huge accomplishment. I was feeling good about myself and my success.

Then this is sprung on me and let me tell you...IT IS NOT WORKING!!! In 2 weeks I have lost a whopping total of .8 pounds! My worst weight loss to date with LAWL. Not only are you getting MORE starches, each starch is now 2X what it was before, i.e., previously 1/2 whole wheat english muffin was 1 starch, now a whole muffin is 1 starch.

I have been very disgusted with this plan AND the way my center has handled my concerns. I have a friend who was kicked out of LAWL for not buying her 2 boxes of bars every week. She was still following her blue plan and in the time I have lost .8 pounds, she has lost 6.5 pounds!! You tell me which plan is working!

I am at a loss for what to do next. Part of me wants to just go off on my own like my friend did. Part of me wants to be beligerent next time I go in and demand to receive my counseling based on the plan I signed up with, the color coded one.

I guess I resent the fact that they switch you right in the middle, especially when things had been going so well.

I'm glad I found this board. Thanks for listening!

I'm starting to feel like I'm in the only center that hasn't changed to the numbered plan (I've been waiting). According to the manager, she knows nothing. I'm outside of Philadelphia. Is everyone going to be changed over, or are we the only ones who aren't? Does anyone know anything about this?

I am also from around Philly area -- our centers are just changing their names to "Pure" and will be using the colored plans.

I am in the Jacksonville, Florida area. Our CODs were franchise, but were recently bought back and are now corporate and are called "Pure" now. We were switched from the color plans to the Feel Full plans, but now that we are corporately owned, we have been told we'll be switching back to the color plans (yeah!) - I have heard that the Feel Full plans were only in effect in the franchised stores; corporate never switched from the color plans. Hope this helps!

Hi girls and guy.........I am just bumping this up, and wanted to also ask if anyone has the exchanges for plan 5. I am trying to get some info for my sis :)
XOXO

I've been on the new diet for one month now,it is a great change from the other plans, give it a try,you will relly like it. Your weight will slow down for about two weeks, and then you start to loose again. It's really nice. Also I found the new cookbook on Ebay-Lots of great new
recipes. Good Luck I Know you will do good. It's wonderful to have the extra food and to loose weight also.

I am on gold w/ lites, what is my new equivalent and exchanges and amount of the exchanges for fruits, veggies and starches?

Naomi....I just gathered up all of this info yesterday :) You would be on plan 2 which includes 2 1/2 P, 3V, 2F, 3S, 2D, 2FA, 2L. The biggest difference in portion sizes is the protein, which is now either 3 or 4 oz, depending on the type of meat. If you need more detail, you can PM me your email address and I can send you more info :) Hope this helps :)

Kim.........just bumping this up for you. I think this is what you are looking for :)
XOXO

:hug:Thank you Nicole

So I've been back on LAWL for over a week now and I haven't seen a durn bit of difference! As a matter of fact, I have GAINED 1 1/2 pounds!! I just don't know what I am doing wrong! This is so discouraging. The first time I did it I lost 7 1/2 pounds in the FIRST week. It really just seems like I will never get this weight off! I'm following this new "Feel Full" plan. Anyone else out there following this plan and having the same problem? Any thoughts, advide, encoragement or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Hi there,

I've been faced with a similar struggle. Can you please write back and let me know if the new numbered plan ended up working for you? Did you end up going back to the coloured plan? If I don't lose consistently over the next two weeks I'm thinking of going back to the Gold plan with lites instead of the current numbered plan 2 that I'm on with lites.

bumping up for Heidz :)

Morning Everyone! :wave:

I just spent a half hour reading this thread and found a ton of helpful information. Thank you so much!

I'm debating on which plan I should be on to lose the rest of my weight. When I first joined about a year and a half ago, they put me on Gold with lites. I ended up quitting the center becuase I had plateau'd, even gained while staying POP.

My starting weight was 175, I got myself down to about 155 and i'm back up to 162, which I've been at for - I can't even count how many months. And frustrated that I can't get the scale to move!

My main question for you knowledgable ladies is this: With about 10 pounds I would like to lose, should I continue on the gold plan with lites, change myself to the new plan 2 with lites or move down to green/plan 1?

I do yoga once a week and walk 1.6 mi 3-4 times a week.

Thank you in advance for all your help!

Hi Angie,

I would recommend going back onto a plan you know you've lost some weight on and are most familiar with (less room to make mistakes). I know in my case, the Gold plan with lites work better. But I've been put on the #2 plan so I've restructured it so it's more like the Gold by taking out a starch and a fat. If you go to another thread called "Which plan works better new or old" I've made a list on possible plateau remedies that another woman is trying out for a week.

I'd say, do the take off for 2 days and start yourself with the Gold with lites program using Luna Bars (watch nutritional content) if you can't get the LA Lite bars and only consume chicken breast or lean fish for proteins and citrus for fruits for about a week or until you see a change on the scale.

Best of luck!:D

Thanks Dodis!