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JDLAStew
06-27-2007, 10:41 AM
I know I said I wouldn't complain or whine again -- well I take it back. Much like I wish I could take back the $400 bucks I paid to join LAWL. I hate it. I've been doing this for well over a month and have now lost a whopping 7lbs. I walk anywhere between 4-8 miles a day, I eat all the same foods daily in order to get all the categories in--my COD just keeps saying this is normal this is normal. I'm so sick of salads and chicken and cantaloupe. If I do try to eat something different like 6 oz of steak or any other type of veggies I add weight fast. I had enough and had a SMALL cheat this weekend. I think I had like 1 too many starches one day and didn't get all the veggies in on Monday because I was in meetings all day and I gained back 3 of the 10lbs I had lost. I've been back OP and nothing is budging. I think I could have gotten these results only better had I done another program. I can't tell you the times I've been at the COD and explained I'm frustrated--the weight is staying, etc. etc. and all they say is this is normal. Drink more water--I'm already drinking way above the 64oz daily...they say get exercise--hello 8 miles in one day here people. I don't know what else to do. I'm THISCLOSE to giving up. I'm so angry and frustrated. Am I doing something this wrong or are they right. Is this really normal? I'm so discouraged. I'm beginning to think I'll just be fat forever!


bizlawchik
06-27-2007, 10:58 AM
JD - What is the amount of weight loss you would like to see? To me, 7-10lbs in 4 weeks is fantastic. When I stay POP, I lose around 1.5lbs per week. I know you are frustrated, but this is a lifestyle change, not some fad diet where you will lose 10lbs in two weeks. Also, variety is key as well. If I only ate cantaloupe and chicken for a month I would be going over the edge as well. Maybe switch it up a bit, try one new thing a day that you can look forward to.

bayoubelle68
06-27-2007, 11:06 AM
I'm so sorry you're frustrated, but Cassi is so right. Please don't give up! You may want to check out the daily menu thread on here. I've gotten lots of ideas that helped me to put variety into my diet.


Jayjay55
06-27-2007, 11:07 AM
Hi -- I am not LAWL so I can't help you there but I will hopefully give you some insight with the exercise. You walk 4 - 8 miles a day and that is awesome but our bodies need to be "entertained". Quite honestly you body is quite used to the walk -- doesn't really matter how far it is. Heck I gained the most weight years ago - walking an hour "uphill" with my dog. What I have learned over the last little while is we need to mix up our exercise -- of course walking is great, but are you raising your heartbeat? Are you doing any weight training? As we build muscle our bodies will burn the calories faster. Of course I am still heavy but I am in the best shape I have been physically and its from doing a mix up of exercise. I take a definition class (gentle weight lifting mostly), core concepts, ab blaster, hi low step class and last month I even joined a cardio bootcamp. Now that was the best $200 I ever spent. There are lots of exercise DVD's -- the 10 Minute Solutions are really good - you can mix and match and do 10 - 50 minutes in one session.

Just try not to abandon all the good eating -- its a long tough road. I know the month I was doing the bootcamp I ate right -- exercised 5 days a week and only lost 2.5 pounds - but I shed inches and quite honestly the entire world sees the inches -- I am the only person that sees the numbers on the scale.

Mama Nicole
06-27-2007, 11:13 AM
JDLAstew...........what color plan are you on? I ask because with all of that exercise, it is possible you aren't getting enough food. Has COD addressed that?

Jasmine31
06-27-2007, 11:22 AM
I am not lawl either and I agree with jay jay however I would add one thing. I have been working on weight loss for 2 years now and have had success and slacked off etc. Whenever I really buckle down and start walking ALOT, like 900 minutes a month up to 2000 is when I start packing onm muscle and at first it looks like I am losing 2-3 pounds a month. BUT muscle is leaner than fat but weighs the same. I take pics and measurements and I am truly thinner.

What I always tell myself is it is not about the scale but about being healthy and looking great. Stick with it and you will continue to see results.

JDLAStew
06-27-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm on the purple plan. I do get my heartrate up--I forgot to mention that I'm pushing my 3 y.o. son in his stroller. I've bought a ton of exercise DVDs and have used them sporadically since beginning. Honestly I can't imagine eating any more food than I already do. I guess what frustrates me so much is that with other diets I would lose quickly--I know that obviously they didn't work or I wouldn't have dished out the cash to join LAWL--but they seemed to keep me on program better. During WW I lost 25lbs quickly and had I had the money to keep going weekly would have stuck with it. I thought with LAWL paying all the money up front would keep me on it. I just keep getting sick of the same foods--I'm quite picky. The thoughts of plum sauce or any type of squash kills me! And when can I have a simple craving like a peanut butter cup or a cookie--how can I add a such things? I'm on the shakes now so that takes a protein and starch...I can't afford the lites--I know that might help with cravings but sheesh...I'm a SAHM and student. My hubby is the only income. Anyway sorry for venting but I'm mad...and frustrated....and a little bored with the plan. Thanks for your words...I'm sure my COD will hear them too. :)

MTdebster921
06-27-2007, 11:30 AM
The 2 lbs. a week that LAWL wants is on the high end of the scale for normal weight loss. You are doing fantastic so far. Some people lose 3-4 lbs. a week in the beginning and some don't. If you don't have a lot of weight to lose or you are a career dieter, you probably aren't going to see the bigger losses, 1-2 lbs. is probably going to be your ideal weight loss.

What color plan are you on? Are you speed walking and breaking a sweat? How long does it take you get in your 4-8 miles? Have you checked your calorie intake to make sure you are getting enough calories? You should really never go under 1200 a day. I am guessing that if you are gaining by missing foods or only going over by 1 starch, that you are not on the right plan. If you are exercising more than 5 hours a week, you may need to go up a plan. Also what the other girls said about switching things up both in exercise and food is so true. If you eat the same things all the time and exercise the same way all the time, your body gets comfortable and it won't let go of the weight. You need to have a variety of food to keep your body guessing. I have days where I consume about 1700 calories and then some days where I only consume 1200 calories. Another thing you could try yourself, is to quit walking so many miles for a couple of weeks. Just get in like 1-2 miles a day. If you have a big loss the week after you first quit walking, then you are on the wrong plan and you need more food.

Patience really is the key here. You didn't put the weight on instantly, and you are not going to take it off instantly. You may also be building muscle right now. Are your clothes fitting better? Have they taken your measurements at the center? If not,have them do it!! You may be pleasantly surprised. Don't give up!!! You can do it!!!

Joni135
06-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Your biggest mistake would be if you quit! First, you are right on course as far as your weight loss and if you've been POP, or very close to POP, I can only guess your gain is hormonal and will pass in time. Your body is loving how good you are treating it these days.

All the other posters covered the high points: mix up your exercise, put some variety into your meals, and figure out if there is another reason for your frustration. If you are stressed about other things going on in your life other than your weight, that can truly affect your weight loss And out of curiosity, what will happen if you give up? Will the weight fall off more rapidly? hmmmmmmmmm?

Clue0983
06-27-2007, 11:31 AM
Cassie is right! 7-10lbs in 4 weeks is FANTASTIC!

Visit the recipe threads. I was getting quite bored with salads and chicken so I decided to venture out an cook. I The recipes are fantastic and it makes it interesting. I wouls like to suggest the BBQ Chicken 'pitza'. I had it last night, Yummo!!!

Are you weighing your food? I wasn't at first. I was losing an average of 3lbs a week then it STOPPED. I was really into working out at the gym and walking 15-20 miles a week. I couldn't figure out why it was stalled. I bought a food scale and realized I was only eating about 1/3 of the protien I was supposed to. Like magic, within 3 days I saw a 1.5 lb loss in 4 days.

JayJay is right. You need to add some resistance into the mix. Build those muscles and speed your metabolism!!

Hang in there! You are doing great!

bizlawchik
06-27-2007, 11:32 AM
It sounds like maybe you just need to drop the shakes so you can get more variety. And as for the peanut butter cup or cookie... well, you know the answer. But when you say that you are on purple, that seems like that is what you would be on if you were doing the lites. Does your COD know that you aren't doing the lites? It seems they would move you to red. Although it may not matter since gold would start around 181 or so anyway, and without the lites, that would be purple. (did that make sense?)

Jillibean1
06-27-2007, 11:35 AM
7 pounds for the first month is great. Just think after next month it will be 14, etc. I think that you need to look at the big picture. It is more frustrating to think of the entire amount that we have to lose than to think in smaller steps. Trust me, the small losses add up and stay off. I find that for me, it seems that I lose weight really well for about two weeks of the month and then I stabilize for about two weeks. That is just my body and I've learned to get past the frustration of the scale not moving for that week or two. Probably, you are also losing inches!! I would advise to check out some of the recipe threads to mix up your food. In the past, I have tended to try and quit just because I'm so sick of chicken and such. And as another suggested, mix up the exercise. I take all different kinds of aerobics classes throughout the week. Walking is great, but it's great to cross train. Good luck and don't quit!!!

Amarantha2
06-27-2007, 11:37 AM
I'm not LAWL either but wanted to jump in to say don't be frustrated, even if you find that LAWL, ultimately, isn't the road you want to travel. :wave:

Nothing against LAWL, of which I have absolutely no personal knowledge, but that would not necessarily be a bad thing (to decide it's not for you) or mean that you've wasted your money or your effort. This is a lifetime journey that you are on and you may need to go down many paths before you find the true formula that ultimately is the one for you.

There are many paths in the journey to living life at a sane weight. LAWL may be the one you want and it may work great for you, or something else will work. The main thing is, don't give up and don't be afraid to say to yourself that you aren't on the path you want to be at, whether it cost $400 or not, and wave gently to that path in acceptance and move on to whatever may work better for you.

You do not need to be on a set program for life or even on a set program for a short time in order to achieve the weight that is right for you. In the final analysis, it comes down to eating less and moving more (in your case, maybe moving differently and eating a little more, hard to say, you have to experiment).

But NEVER give up and BTW it's great to vent! You'll do great!

walking2lose
06-27-2007, 11:43 AM
If you continue to lose at the rate you're losing, you'll be at your goal by Thanksgiving/Christmas time. That seems very realistic to me. Most people who lose too much weight too quickly have difficulty maintaining it.

Good luck

kaplods
06-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Also not on LAWL, but have to post because sometimes a different perspective helps. A lifetime of dieting and in recent years a physical disability that makes exercise very difficult (at least on land, in water I can do pretty well) have lowered my metabolism to the point that I envy a 7 lbs per month loss. I don't mean this as a "you think you got it bad" post, but having been dieting since age 5, I may not have yet found the secret to success, but I've certainly become an expert on what doesn't work), and there's nothing that kills a weight loss attempt faster than impatience.

The jury isn't in on much of the weight loss research, but the most current research suggests that that the optimal weight loss rate for health and long term success is only 1/2 to 1 percent of your body weight. At your current weight that would mean a weight loss of no more than 1 to 2 lbs per week. Not only are you doing well, you're ahead of schedule. There are ways to lose faster, but faster isn't better when it comes to weight loss. The faster you lose, the faster you're likely to put back on.

I think "dieting" is like very hot or very cold water. If you jump in quickly, you can't wait to get out. But if the water temp is increased or decreased slowly, you'll get used to the water and won't mind staying in.

JDLAStew
06-27-2007, 11:55 AM
Perhaps I am over reacting. You all sound like you know what you are talking about. Is the LAWL cookbook expensive? Maybe I should invest in it? I saw a video of myself on Monday and this was after some of my weight loss--and I was still so huge! I guess seeing myself without looking in the mirror--but how people actually see me is what really got me down. I just wish it would fall off--don't we all? ha. Anyway I so appreciate all your words. It's true that this is a great community. And you are all so right. I do have a lot of stress right now--mostly with in-laws and the drama they tend to bring. I need a good kick in the butt every once in a while. Maybe this was it (not that any of you were rude--you know--you just kinda shook the sense into me)....ok I'm rambling. Thank you all and I'll keep on keepin' on.

Thanks again!!

Mama Nicole
06-27-2007, 12:00 PM
I would think if you are not doing lites, you would be on Red as well. When I was at 185, they switched me to purple w/o lites, and I stalled big time. I put myself back on red and had great success within a wek. Also, there are a great many tricks for getting your sweet on when you don't do lites. Now, this may seem not so tempting, but have you tried to add oranges or strawberries to your green salads and use a sweeter variety of salad dressing? I sometimes use Cardini's brand Asian Sesame dressing on a green salad, with cut up oranges and some Asian sesame mix salad topper......and it is divine. The dressing and topper is not OP, but it can be counted as 1Fa, 1 S if you use half the recommended serving size of dressing and 1 serving size of salad topper. As far as sweet treats........SF jello is a wonderful treat......with FF cool whip. YUM. Also, the ricotta cheese pancakes with SF syrup is delicious. I thought it would be gross, but it is like a cross between pancake and cheesecake :) Did I say YUM? Also, I have heard of peole mixing ricotta cheese and SF chocolate syrup. I have not tried that yet......but I will one day when I HAVE to have chocolate. I'm sure other's have their favs.........maybe I'll start a new thread........called legal sweet treats..........anyway......don't give up. This is a life change.........and LAWL is an excellent program. You are so worth it :)
XOXO

Dan2112
06-27-2007, 12:33 PM
Hey JD... I know how you feel... Liz is the queen of plateaus, so she certainly can give you some insight... But the others are right.. 7 lbs. is an important acomplishment. Also, have you done measurments lately? I'll bet you're shrinking that way. We all lose at different rates, so I can see how you'd be frustrated by seeing others around you here losing at faster rates.. But there are those who are losing more slowly too!

The other benefit that we fail to take into consideration is that despite whatever losses you may or may not have, you are eating healthier and are then, healthier for it!!

Don't lose hope!!

elisa822
06-27-2007, 01:30 PM
Also just the opinon of a non-LAWL person. I think the advice you've been given is great. Don't give up. Give it a chance and listen to what some of the LAWL people have said. They've been through it.

In the end though, it may not be for you. Nothing seems to be for everyone. I have a friend who swears by a low-carb/Atkins type of lifestyle. She's been doing it for years and loves it. I couldn't do it because I thought I might kill someone for a cracker one day. For me, I need to know that I can have a little of anything. I'm a good old fashioned calorie/points counter. That works for me.

Give it a bit more time and then, if you feel you have to, try something else.

Just don't give up entirely. That will get you nowhere!!

:D

bizlawchik
06-27-2007, 01:34 PM
Also remember that when you get to maintenance, you do get back "everything in moderation". Just because it's not on the plan in the weight loss phase doesn't mean you never get it again. It will still be there waiting for you.

marzbe
06-27-2007, 01:35 PM
The fitness addict is going to now chime in. (Okay, I worked a short day, came home ate a big lunch, and now have time to kill before I can start the work-out, so it's going to be a long illustrated post. :book2:


7 pounds is a great first month loss, your body knows what's best for it :encore:
the extra weight is probably is just water, drink extra you'll pee it out :dunno:
4 - 8 miles a day, PURPLE WITHOUT LITES IS NEARLY NOT ENOUGH FOOD! That much activity you should be on red with lites. I had it out with the LA dieticians several times. You need calories to burn calories. :sssh: If your body thinks it's starving itself it's not going to burn the calories it should be burning.
Inches are better than pounds, all in all I only lost 14 of the 30 pounds I wanted to lose, yeah it sucked, but I dropped 24 inches! That's going from a size 14-16 to a size 8-10 :belly:
You're learning how toe eat healthier. :cheer: While I'm not fully thrilled with the number on the scale, I've made changes that are so much better than the scale. I quit the fast food habit, I've cut my caffiene habit by 90%, and I'm not sitting and eating a pound of gummy bears in one sitting anymore. Those are major fetes that I thought would always be far out reaches. :cheers: In the past I always lost weight by crash dieting and the unhealthy habits came right back.


Bottom line is, weight loss is not just about the number on the scale. It's about making the changes that are going to improve your health long term. :coach:

Mama Nicole
06-27-2007, 01:45 PM
Yeah, what she said :) Do you all remember when Holly used to drink a protein shake after her workouts............a lot of personal trainers recommend this also..........it might not be a bad idea. I really do think you are not getting enough calories.......especially if you are drinking slim downs in place of complete proteins which can only come from real food :)

Repo girl
06-27-2007, 02:07 PM
I am still on red with no lites, even at my weight. No doubt you need more food!

smjezzy
06-27-2007, 02:08 PM
Also I think I read in here somewhere that you don't do lites. I don't either for the same reason, but I do occassionally have a zone bar. I prefer the snack size ones because I'm not a big sweet eater but sometimes I just want something. The little ones give me just what I need to get over a craving.

When I started doing the summer meltdown thing I was having them daily as the diet prescribed....I actually lost a lot of weight on that too. I had hit a plateau and wasn't moving at all. You might give that a shot. I'm still fairly new to this so you old timer's chime in if it's too soon in her program to do one of their special deals. (Oh and I do all the substitutions for the LAWL products, I don't buy any of their stuff)

Lynx
06-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Remember - This time is going to work!!! I know how hard it is to walk 4 to 8 miles a day and I applaud you, but think about this. Some wise person told me this once. Sorry I don't remember who it was. If you start off your weight loss program exercises by walking 4 to 8 miles a day for one thing, your body is confused. It holds back fat and doesn't burn it because there is a perceived risk. Back to the old caveman days when people had to flee for their lives and did not get much to eat. One of the most important lessons I have learned this time around is to listen to my body. By that I mean, try the eating plan with 30 mins of exercise. See if you lose. If you do great. If not, move it up to 40 min a day. When you start out at such a high level of activity, what are going to go to when you down the line when you stall. Keep up a level of activity that you can maintain and will be able to increase. We are all frantic to lose the weight today - NOW!. It takes time. The other thing is and most of us are guilty of this. We think if we are POP today, the weight will drop off overnight. Our bodies don't work that way. We all need to be POP as much as we can and then the rewards that we are looking for will come.

zambejaly5
06-28-2007, 08:37 AM
Why aren't you on Red? surely with that amount of mileage you are getting at least 5 hours of exercise a week and should be on red for exercise regardless of you weight! That would be the first thing I would check on. Also you said you lost 25 with WW. well what were you doing then that you are not doing now? foods that worked then, water?? things like that.

and sorry. I will have to repeat that 7 pounds in four weeks is great! just think that is 28 STICKS OF BUTTER!!!!!!! try to picture where those came off!!

bizlawchik
06-28-2007, 09:01 AM
I'm going to disagree about the more food thing. You can try red, because it has worked for some, but if you are losing, then you are not stalling. Even if you moved to red (because of no lites) then you would be moved down to purple within about 5lbs. 7lbs in one month is not a stall, nor a plateau.

Repo girl
06-29-2007, 08:38 AM
Remember - This time is going to work!!! I know how hard it is to walk 4 to 8 miles a day and I applaud you, but think about this. Some wise person told me this once. Sorry I don't remember who it was. If you start off your weight loss program exercises by walking 4 to 8 miles a day for one thing, your body is confused. It holds back fat and doesn't burn it because there is a perceived risk. Back to the old caveman days when people had to flee for their lives and did not get much to eat. One of the most important lessons I have learned this time around is to listen to my body. By that I mean, try the eating plan with 30 mins of exercise. See if you lose. If you do great. If not, move it up to 40 min a day. When you start out at such a high level of activity, what are going to go to when you down the line when you stall. Keep up a level of activity that you can maintain and will be able to increase. We are all frantic to lose the weight today - NOW!. It takes time. The other thing is and most of us are guilty of this. We think if we are POP today, the weight will drop off overnight. Our bodies don't work that way. We all need to be POP as much as we can and then the rewards that we are looking for will come.

Wise words Lynn, thank you. I needed to hear that.

BarbaraB
06-29-2007, 01:20 PM
JD,

I also lost quickly before on other diets, but you know what... It wasn't FAT that I was losing!!!!!! I lost muscle. I had my body fat professionally measured back then, and when I lost 30 pounds, about 10 pounds of it was lean body mass. This time I have a scale that measures body fat. According to it, I have lost almost all FAT on LAWL.

You simply can not lose more than about 8 pounds a month of fat. If you were losing more you would be wasting the lean body mass of your body and destroying your ability to burn calories. I was exercising like crazy when I lost the 30 pounds and 10 pounds of muscle by the way.

JDLAStew
06-29-2007, 04:29 PM
Guys I appreciate all this info! I am proud to say that since Wednesday I've lost 1.2lbs--thanks to staying OP and listening to your words of advice. I switched up my exercising--walking a little less but adding in some aerobics and pilates. It's really helped. This board and it's members are the greatest--of this I am sure!!

JDLAStew
06-29-2007, 04:34 PM
Oh and 1 more thing--I've lost 9.5 inches!

bizlawchik
06-29-2007, 04:35 PM
YAY!!!!! :cheer:

I know it's so hard sometimes and you want it all gone now, but you really are doing great.

tammie07
06-29-2007, 04:54 PM
Yeah!!!!

Mama Nicole
06-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Whooo hoooo JD!!!

marzbe
06-29-2007, 05:59 PM
9.5 Inches is 19 pounds of fat. Just think of it that way. The ratio is basically 1 inch to every 2 pounds! You've lost more than that! :bravo:

I stabalized when my ratio was 3 inches for every 2 pounds. At that point who really cares what the scale says. :woohoo:

videochick
06-29-2007, 06:53 PM
Guys I appreciate all this info! I am proud to say that since Wednesday I've lost 1.2lbs--thanks to staying OP and listening to your words of advice. I switched up my exercising--walking a little less but adding in some aerobics and pilates. It's really helped. This board and it's members are the greatest--of this I am sure!!

I just wanted to add that I can usually cover 4-5 miles a day walking for my job and when I asked my COD a few years ago about moving up to Red (really, I was desparate for an extra starch and would stoop to anything :D), they told me it had to be more than 5 hours a week of "aerobic" activity, which meant that even though I was walking around job sites, I wasn't actually raising my heartrate. Does that make any sense? They also told me at the time that a client could be moved to the Blue plan if they did a minimum of 3 hours "aerobic" activity. It's hard enough to discuss nutrition with the counselors as basically they are salespeople, but I find to venture into the exercise arena with them can be quite exasperating. And if I was doing 5 hours of pulse raising cardio activity a week, how do I prove it to them? It's unfortunate that this program is ruled by loss shown on the scale.

I see in a another post that you have now seen a loss in lbs and inches :cp::bravo: Way to go!

Melissa

P.S. ETA - After rereading this, I thought maybe it sounded like I was negating the positive effects of walking for exercise, which I'm not because it's what I do, too. I just wish LAWL would integrate more activity into their program, instead of the "no exercise required" sales pitch.

JDLAStew
06-29-2007, 11:59 PM
I didn't know the fat to inches ratio--that is awesome!

brittyboo07
07-01-2007, 11:17 AM
JD I am glad to see that you are back in a great weight loss mood and are changing things up so that you are not bored. I am just curious about one thing..... how much weight did you think you should have lost in that time period?? Congrats on your loss of pounds and Inches!!!!!!!!


Britt

Snowdogs
07-02-2007, 10:11 AM
That's the HUGE thing - if you typically walk 5-8 miles a day your body is used to it. You need to do more - get your heart rate up.

Mailmen(women) are EXCELLENT examples :-) They walk all day long and carry a mail bag. Yet I still see plenty of overweight mail people. Why? They constantly walk that amount - in order for them to lose weight they need to kick it up a notch and get in aerobic exercise on top of their walking.

Just like we need to switch up our foods we need to switch up our exercise. My PT says 2 days hard intensity, 3 days med. intensity and 1 day of long light intensity.

Keeping your body guessing is the name of the game :-)