I will not eat it at my desk,
No, no, I will not make that mess.
I will not take it in my car,
I will not eat that candy bar...
waterbaby
12-07-2001, 08:44 AM
Hey! :wave:
Jennifa, thanks for the new thread and LOVE the parody of Dr. Suess!! Think it will stick in my brain for a while!
Gray, rainy Friday here in Nashville. Temp unseasonably warm at 65 degrees...
Still feeling better. Actually woke up today with some energy, and the hot water seems to be flushing the yucky stuff on out...
I haven't lost anything just yet, as I'm still getting the portion control in place. I do become satisfied with less, but the habit of sticking something in my mouth, combined with the fact that I really LIKE the taste of food, is keeping me on a little slower track than some folks. I'm not worried; I just have to re-form habits that work for me. At least I'm aware that I still tend to eat as a hobby :lol:
Hope you all have a fabulous Friday.
Lurkers, aren't you just a wee bit curious as to what we're doing?
Blessings!
waterbaby
12-09-2001, 10:52 AM
Hi all! :wave:
Today is already an "uphill" day for me. Drank coffee, ate bacon and eggs this morning, and have already had a dose of baking soda in water for the heartburn. :(
A little bit of the :devil: got in me today, I guess. I'm getting back to the hot water and milder foods to balance me. Now that I remember what yucky feels like, I sure want to get back to feeling good again.
How is everyone else doing?
Hope you have a great day!!!
Blessings,
waterbaby
12-10-2001, 08:35 AM
Hi, all! :wave:
Well, here it is Monday and frosty in Nashville. After the beautiful weather last week, this is literally a cold slap in the face! :lol:
Got my hot water handy. DH is an excellent cook and he just doesn't get the idea of healthy cooking, so this new idealogy has not taken hold in his brain yet.
He made enchiritos last night (he has a recipe that you can't tell from Taco Bell's) and fried tacos on homemade tortillas. A pasta salad with veggies, jalapeno and an oily (but delicious!) vinaigrette topped it all.
I ate it....
I paid for it later with awful heartburn and indigestion. The dinner was wonderful but also served as a reminder that I can't eat that way any more. Sure, he can cook differently, but I have to stand up for myself and help him understand that it would be helpful to me (and my high cholesterol, thank you) to be gentler with spices and not fry my food.
I can cook and will; with him, cooking is his passion. He has a cast-iron stomach that can eat anything; mine is a bit on the delicate side. So it gives us a chance for better communication. When I cook, it is lighter fare and he usually doesn't care for it.
We'll keep trying ;) Meanwhile, I have my hot water and my resolve to eat mindfully today.
Hope everyone is doing well! Post when you can!
Blessings!
waterbaby
12-11-2001, 10:31 AM
Hi all! :wave:
Weighed myself this morning -- down four pounds :D
Very pleased! some of the swelling in my hands has gone away, too.
Who would've thought that by drinking less water and leaving out a few foods that I would feel so much better!
Also found out that drinking too much hot water at once doesn't agree with me :(
Still working on the "mindful eating." I'll get there!
Hope to see someone posting besides me...awfully big echo in here.
Blessings!
jennifa
12-11-2001, 12:04 PM
Hi Claire,
Wow, congratulations! 4 pounds is great!
I know, there is a big echo in here. I think everybody is looking for the magic way to lose weight. This plan is just like all the ones that WORK - eat right, exercise, and be moderate. Just a different way of looking at things.
Keep up the good work!
waterbaby
12-11-2001, 01:38 PM
Hey! :wave:
Jennifa, thank you for the applause. I really appreciate it!
I too, have looked for the magic pill/shot/shake/bar/program/exercise/what have you over the years and this seems to be working. I am also on the Support forum following the thread concerning "non-dieting" via Geneen Roth's work.
Thank you again for all the support. Hope others will join us in here to learn about something pretty special.
Blessings!
Cowgirl
12-14-2001, 10:16 AM
Hi girls, I have been wandering around the site looking for someone I might fit in with. :( I was with the success with slimfast thread but I seem to be the only one left and that is prety sad. I do use Slimfast as a replacement because it is just very convienient. They make good lunches for work. I began loosing weight in march of '01. I started at 320 and am now at 265-260. It flutuates about 5 pounds but always goes down so I don't mind. So tell me about the hot water thing. Whats that about? I hear about it on a lot of threads. Sounds yuky but hey I am willing to try new things. I don't believe in pills and weight loss mirical diets. I just am trying to retrain my eating habits. It is slow but it is working. I just want to be able to get advice and support from others like me. Looking forward to hearing more from all of you.;)
waterbaby
12-14-2001, 10:48 AM
Hey, cowgirl!
You are very welcome here!
Here's why we sip the hot water. How-to and the benefits follow this somewhat lengthy post.
The tongue is the organ of taste and speech. Size, shape, contour, surface, margins, and color are the characteristics one can observe on the tongue.
A whitish tongue indicates Kapha imbalance and mucus accumulation. A red or yellow green tongue indicated a Pitta imbalance. A vata imbalance is manifested by a black to brown coloration on the tongue.
If the tongue is covered by a coating, it may indicate the presence of toxins in the stomach, small intestine or large intestine. If the posterior part of the tongue is coated, it will indicate that toxins are present in the large intestine. If the middle of the tongue is coated, the toxins are present in the stomach and in the small intestine.
In order to cleanse this muck out of your system, we sip hot water during the day. The water should be just hot enough so that you have to blow on it.
The hot water has the same effect on the toxins that hot water has on greasy dishes -- it dissolves the muck and helps wash them through your system. As the toxins leave, you may notice an increase in trips to the bathroom and a slight change in habits for a day.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I drink a couple of cups of hot water every day. I check my tongue in the mirror every morning to see what's going on "further down the track". The hot water is also a welcome treat since I stopped drinking coffee a month ago.
Thanks for your post! Please feel free to ask questions. Someone will always help you! :)
jennifa
12-14-2001, 03:37 PM
Howdy, Cowgirl, and welcome!
If you are accustomed to drinking liquid meals, this might be a great plan for you. Kapha imbalanced people do well on a single-day liquid fast per week. It basically means that all your foods are liquified. This, for me, works out to about 25 WW points, and I make sure I get a good balance. There are too many chemicals in Slim Fast for me but I do love Odwalla's Vanilla Almondo and Dutch Chocolate soy shakes. I drink those on fast days. I also have a juicer, and man, there is NOTHING like fresh pineapple juice. It is so divine.
Waterbaby is right about the hot water. I am getting to where my tongue is usually pink and healthy looking most of the time. YAY! For some reason, cutting out caffeine has jump started my weight loss. I don't know why. Ah, well. Better off without it.
Hope you all have a great OP weekend! STAY ON PROGRAM!!!!
Namaste,
Jennifa
216/199/170
Cowgirl
12-16-2001, 11:30 AM
Hmmmm, thats all ver interesting. I don't know if I am readdy to give up my morning coffee just yet but I may try a cup or two of hot watter a day. I'm sure it would help to cut out the coffee but I really enjoy it. Perhaps if I just cut down from my usual two cups to one for now. I deffinatly will not try the all liquid for a day thing. I need to be very careful about getting enough protine (meat) if I don't I get sick. No beans do not work the same for me for some reason. Besides they make me very gassy! :o On a really happy note my new size 20 pants were falling off yesterday! When I tried them on I though they fit ok although a bit looser than I expected. I was not prepared for them to almost fall off! I had been wearing the same size 24's that I have had since I started loosing. They used to be tight and now they are way too big but I still wear them since I am still loosing and they are still in good shape. Guess it is time to do some serious shoping for clothes! My weight is still between 260 and 265. It's weird. I feel a big difference in clothing fit and all around physical health but my measurments and the scale don't reflect it. Oh well who cares I feel so much better so I know it is working on some level. Can't wait to be in size 18 again, it's been 9 years!
waterbaby
12-17-2001, 01:12 PM
Cowgirl --
Yee-hah! I am so happy you ain't wearin' no more "heifer-sized" pants :D
Seriously, that's great!! I am SO THRILLED For you and I know you must just be on a cloud!
The coffee was a biggie for me. Finally, my body just couldn't take the acid anymore. I tried low-acid coffee and still had the same problem.
For my hot water, I get the nicest cup and saucer I have and it makes it more fun to drink (presentation is everything, right?)
Please keep it up! You'll be in the "grade school" sizes before you know it!
Someone else from this website said (to paraphrase her) that she didn't use a scale anymore, but used her trusty "Pants-O-Meter" instead.... :lol:
Jennifa, how's it goin'?
Have an AWESOME Monday, all!!
Blessings!
jennifa
12-19-2001, 07:13 PM
HI all,
Cowgirl, there are shakes on the market that have a lot of protein in them. The thing about a liquid day is that most people think you aren't getting ANY nutrients. Actually, you are probably getting MORE if you are doing it right. I went to a naturopath to learn how to do it. It is so great, it is a wonderful balancer to my diet. Anyway, it sounds like you are losing! Good job! Keep up the good work, those 18s are looking right at you...
Waterbaby, how are you doing? I have been slipping, 'tis the season for such things to occur. So today I have been grossing out - ama everywhere! - gross - and am more able to say no to the chocolate goodies tonight. In fact, I think I am going to toss them in the freezer where they belong. Maybe I'll get lucky and they will get freezer burn??? I tried the geneen roth thread a while back but it seemed like there was no room for Deepak there then, and the thread got a bit ugly. I think they were having an Atkins grump or something. Hope it's going well over there, maybe I will check it out.
Meanwhile my big plan *** BIG PLAN *** to lose is WORK OUT all the time. I got 30 minutes in this morning and have a date with that bike for another 60 this evening. Maybe another 30 of weight training tonight, too. It seems that THIS is what is really helping. I can't get over the cutting caffeine, though - it is like someone opened the gate to weight loss. The other thing I think is helping is I have been trying to keep my sodium to below 1000 mg per day. That is less than 1/2 teaspoon. Not an easy feat. It basically means nothing with any salt added at all. Usually no processed foods.
Well now that I have written a book... :rolleyes:
Jennifa
216/198.5/170
waterbaby
12-20-2001, 08:35 AM
Hey all! :wave:
Cowgirl, what's going on with you? Hope everything is well and wonderful. It's a pretty day here in Nashville, although cold! (20 degrees at 6:45 AM, which is when I usually get to work.) But the sky is clear and the sun is just gorgeous. :)
I'd like to tell you my "coffee story." I started drinking the stuff from my uncle's saucer at the age of two. It was mostly cream and sugar with a little coffee poured in to give it color. As I got older, I drank it every day with sugar and cream. When I was put on diet pills at the age of 12, I still used cream but replaced the sugar with saccharin (at that time, it had a soapy aftertaste :mad: )
I drank coffee steadily, increasing the amount until I was drinking probably two pots a day. I stopped using cream (never milk! eww) and began using Sugar Twin or Sweet 'n' Low. This went on for about 25 years (I'm 49 now) and suddenly, my body just couldn't hack the acid anymore. I started doctoring my java with flavored artificial creamers -- nothing helped. So I had to cut back to one cup on the weekends and even that has pretty much gone out the window. So now I drink hot water (or tea occasionally). I certainly understand not wanting to give it up :)
Jennifa, we are doing the best thing for ourselves by posting. I know if I didn't visit and post, I'd be off sneaking food and hiding from the world. I'm proud of you for doing something with your goodies besides eating them :D
The Geneen Roth thread is pretty good -- we have several different opinions of how the world works, but everyone is so interesting! Two ladies are eating meat again after being vegetarians for eons, and I understand their struggle and applaud their choice of being healthy. The exercises are hard, but they are helping me. They seem to be easier when I eat mindfully, because the mindfulness spills over into other areas, too. I'm noticing how hyper my DH is and his inability to relax!
I've also had major slippage this week. The sugar monster has had me in its grip and it's hard to get out of, but I will do it. ;)
Oh, dear. Now look who's written a book... :lol:
More later, y'all. I'm proud of you!
Cowgirl
12-22-2001, 03:38 PM
Hi everyone! Sorry to not post in a while. I have had the worst week of headaches!. I finally went to se a Dr and he saw no infections but put me on Anti inflamitories and a really strong muscle relaxer. Boy did I ever sleep well!:lol: I still don't know what the problem is but the meds are deffinatly helping. I also have my tom and my weight is up a bit but thats not unusual. I still feel like the inches are (slowly) melting away. My next goal is to get back into weight training. I have the equipment but not the motivation.
The coolest thing this week was going to the doctor for the first time in two years and being much lighter than my last visit. The last time I was there Iwas 40 puonds heavier than now!:cool: I think I actually got a look of respect from the nurse who took my weight. And it felt so good.:D
Hope everyone else is doing ok with the holiday food fest. Fortunatly I don't have that problem as I don't celebrate, but I do still like to sample some of the goodies that come to work.
I promise I'll try to post more, I'm a bit of a procrastinator though.
waterbaby
12-27-2001, 08:25 AM
Hi, all! :wave:
Don't know about you all, but I certainly floundered around during the holidays. Didn't stuff me, but didn't eat mindfully either.
Had coffee with the accompanying heartburn -- oy, when will I learn? And ate way too many sugary things -- pecans and cookies, mostly.
Have my trusty hot water this morning, along with my raw oats and soymilk -- yum, yum -- NOT :lol:
Check in when you can. Have a great day!
Blessings!
jennifa
12-27-2001, 06:24 PM
Hi waterbaby and cowgirl, how are you doing?
Waterbaby, I slipped a bit, too. Alas... we are human. Back on the bandwagon!!! I tossed all the goodies in the
freezer except the pfeffernussen - that's not SO bad and good for breakfast.
I have demanded my Chopra book back - the person I loaned it to is now thin and at goal, so I am the one who
needs it! I need to readjust my attitude, I have this "deserving" mentality that must leave before I can lose weight.
But I am hanging in there between 199 and 201 so I feel pretty proud of my achievements so far.
Hope you all have a happy new year - BE HAPPY! You are getting skinny!!!
Jennifa
216/199/170
waterbaby
12-28-2001, 08:41 AM
Hey goils!! :wave:
Pfeffernussen -- ah, I can smell it from here (sigh)...
Jennifa, you did great! I'm really proud of you! :D
By all means, get your book back. I get so irritated when I lend things and then people "lose" them, or forget to return them altogether. I also understand about the "deserving" mentality.
We'll all get there!
Yoo-hoo, Cowgirl...where are ya? Hope you're okay. We'd love to see a post! ;)
I've noticed that when I've had enough to eat, food loses its taste. I think it must be the same effect as the "sigh" of satisfaction when the bod says "that's enough for now." I'll pay closer attention and see if the loss of taste is really an indicator.
Blessings!
jennifa
12-29-2001, 10:53 PM
Hi all,
Good job Waterbabe! Sounds like you are losing. Have you weighed recently? Hope you are getting skinny!
I did it!!! I fit into the jeans I couldn't wear last month!!! And wouldn't you know... they are too short. I KNEW they
were shrinking!!!!!:mad:
New Year's resolutions... sigh... gee, looking at what I've been able to give up, I suppose I can do whatever I want!
Happy new year, all.
Jennifa
216/197:smug: /170
Cowgirl
01-02-2002, 06:01 PM
Hi all! I was starting to think I was going to have to finde another thread. I kept comming back only to find that no one had posted sice my last so I stoped coming for a while. It seems like every time I find a thread I like everyone vanishes. It sure gets lonesome in here all alone.:(
I started weight lifting this week and really worked out hard on monday. I have to go down and work tonight too at some point. Not sure what is going on here. The pants o meter shows me doing well but the scale says I gained weight!? I don't get it. My friend says she can see a big change in my but and thighs so I must be doing something right. I have had a bit of trouble with the goodies that are so "widely" available this time of year. I try not to buy junk food but it is so hard. Who can pass up good chocolate cheap? Oh why oh why can't I have my cake and eat it too?:devil:
jennifa
01-02-2002, 06:55 PM
Hi Cowgirl,
I'm not sure what you mean; Waterbaby and I have been posting since your last post. Are you hitting "reload" or "refresh" on your browser? I know sometimes I have to hit that or I don't see new postings.
Waterbaby, how are you?
Happy new year to you all. I did some math, and over the last 2 months, I have been losing on average 3.4 pounds per week. NOT BAD!! Of course I AM working out 2 hours a day and really watching what I'm eating, no processed foods and keeping it healthy. I have a February 14 goal of 188 - care to join me in a short term goal?
Jennifa
waterbaby
01-03-2002, 09:33 AM
Hi, all! :wave:
Jennifa -- YOU GO, GIRL!!! Sorry your pants are too short; at least they fit around the middle. You have made wonderful progress so far. I'm so proud of you! ;)
Cowgirl, I'm sorry you felt abandoned in here. I've posted continuously with the exception of a few days during Christmas when I couldn't get to a computer. Many threads are slow this time of year, so please don't think no one cares, because we do! I try to post often because I know people "drive by" even if they don't leave a post. :D
I also train with weights and it can certainly be a challenge! Now is the time to throw out the scale! Muscle weighs more than fat, so you may actually show a gain on the scale while your pants are getting looser. As the fat-to-muscle ratio changes, you'll notice a huge difference and pretty soon, Mr. Scale won't be able to practice its emotional sabotage on you. Good luck to you! And congrats on the weight loss at the doctor!
I have a nice winter coat on my tongue this morning, which speaks of ama all through me. :mad: Now I've got to "wash" all this crud out of my system with hot water. Not a bad thing, but I was doing very nicely and then -- whap! -- the holidays hit, and before I know it, I've eaten and imbibed some unhealthy food! Oh, well. At least I have a solution. I've also begun eating in the kitchen rather than in front of the TV with DH. He likes to watch cops 'n' robbers or war things, and it upsets my digestion, so I go to the kitchen to eat in peace...makes me feel very smug :smug:
Have a great day y'all. Let's keep plugging away at this!
Blessings!
Cowgirl
01-03-2002, 05:15 PM
:o I think I just kept going to page 1! Sorry to be so down but my last thread did dissapear on me. I don't know what happened to it.
I know muscle weighs more than fat but I can't seem to quit jumping on the scale every time I feel my clothes loosen up more. It is so dissapointing to see the numbers getting bigger when I am getting smaller. :mad:
I have the winter blaghs right now. it has been cold here and I can't go riding in this weather. I usually ride several times a week and now I have to do indoor excersises which I hate. I hope we get into the 30's soon so I can get back to doing what I like. Also can't wait to have more daylight for doing them. Can't get motivated at all. Mabey I'll have a nice cup of warm water in front of the tv. Hope you all are having a good evening wherever you are.;)
waterbaby
01-04-2002, 08:46 AM
Hi all! :wave:
Cowgirl, I have a darling avatar of a cowgirl "pinup" from the 40's if you ever want her. It's just her shoulders and head, but she's a cutie.
The multiple-page threads really confused me for a while. People would refer to posts and I couldn't find the silly things. One day I noticed that a certain thread I'd been frustrated with had "1 2" beside it. Epiphany! That "2" must mean page 2...well, I found the mysterious posts...
I used to live in Montana and would get SAD (seasonal affective disorder) occasionally. Many days of snow and lack of sunlight. We finally bought a sunlamp and would stand in front of it for short periods of time. It helped tremendously. Too, I raised flowers indoors and the grow lights helped me with the "winter blahs."
The horses always look so funny in cold weather with their rough, shaggy coats. I ride whenever I can and miss doing it on a regular basis, although any horse I rode at the moment would probably be bowlegged by the end of the ride. I'd be interested to hear more about your riding experiences :)
Well, I guess I better drink some hot water. Don't want any grease backing up and clogging the trap :lol:
Jennifa, howya doin'? My pants-o-meter tells me that I had success over the holidays (which means the pants aren't any tighter :D )
Blessings!
jennifa
01-04-2002, 10:41 AM
Hey waterbaby and cowgirl,
glad to see you both on the thread. Since there are several pages I think I will start a new one. So look for it!
I'm doing so so. Right now I am dealing with the PMS monster. I hate it. And the holidays took my fasting days and changed them all around, so I am trying to get back on schedule. I'll get there, I am just a little annoyed about having to change those days around.
Of course I have some bloat, too, so the pantsometer isn't helping me today. But I know that it will keep getting better. I am trying to stay away from all those sweets, and it seems like they taste different now. A good thing, as Martha would say!