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kimmyjay03
06-02-2007, 10:09 AM
I know that some of you are or have been doing *******. I was know it is a form or low carb dieting, but how does it differ from Atkins and South Beach? I just read about it in Womens World Magazine and when I went to the website to find out more info, I had to pay to register ($60) and I didn't want to spend the money just to get a little more information.

Any help would be appreciated! :cool:


Puncezilla
06-02-2007, 11:50 AM
Never heard of it, sorry

Suzanne 3FC
06-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Save your money :)

Here's what I could find on ******* - and this is based on Kimmy's posts elsewhere...

******* is based on the old Atkins induction, before they started allowing low carb candies and other processed foods.

20 grams carbs (total carbs, not net carbs)
2 cups salad and 1/2 cup cooked veggies, or 3 cups salad
70 to 90 grams protein (though some say she now suggests 60 grams)
Just enough fat to make it taste good.
no desserts

I also found comments by a few people that said they were only consuming 500 to 600 calories per day on this :eek:


kimmyjay03
06-02-2007, 12:34 PM
Thanks for the info - it doesn't sound like to healthy of a diet comsuming that little calories. I know I gain weight if I go below 1200 calories a day

I always wondered how Womens World could get a new diet every week into their magazine!

jabunney
06-04-2007, 03:03 PM
I was just reading that to and I was really wanting to try it... Although when I went to the website that has been extremly hard to get into today because I am sure since I bought the magazine to everyone is trying to figure it out... Seems like not to much info on that diet unless you pay... I wasn't willing to pay either since I have and am doing like Atkins. I can do leaner meats, and cut out cheese... Seem to do the same thing. Right??? :)

beach bum
06-04-2007, 03:38 PM
I saw the ******* diet some where on the net, Of course I didn't read it. All Fad Diets are not healthy and I wouldn't try them unless I spoke to my doctor first or/and he would monitor me on them. Other wise its a :nono: NO-NO:nono:


Hugs :) BB

Blndrts38
06-06-2007, 08:37 PM
thanks so much for the post by all those who have investigated this. I had just read the Women's World and was of course very tempted to pay the $59.95 as I have been very deperate. I too need to lose all most the same kind of weight as "Kimmie". I often look to this site for honest and sensible advise.
Thank you so much.

Cassia
06-11-2007, 12:19 AM
The ******* diet is based on the theory of Ketosis. She has an induction period that puts your body into Ketosis. When in Ketosis you lose your appetite, thus the low calorie intake. It is somewhat like Dr. Stillman's induction minus the cheese and she allows a little oil for cooking. Then Phase 2 is ******* which is with the 2 cups of salad and .5 of veggies but only those on the list, or 3 cups of salad greens. She does not allow net carb counting and no processed Low Carb foods. She does not promote drinking water either.

I have I am doing the first week of her induction and lost 5 pounds and my calorie intake was low because I just could not eat. I also drink lots of water and exercise and take vitamins. I have great.

So I say what ever works for you. There is always a critic for every plan.

nascargal2001
06-20-2007, 11:54 AM
I too have been trying to do the *******. Keeping my carbs around 20, water and 30 minutes of exercise a day. In the two weeks I have been doing this I have lost a total of 7.8 pounds. Now so of those days weren't a true faithful to the tee *******, but I still lost. While on weight watchers I average 4 pounds a week until I plateued at 45 pounds lost. I agree that everything works differently for everyone and if this works for me great. I am not pushing to lose a lot of weight fast as the Women's World said it could but feel if I lost 4 pounds a week on weight watchers why not see what this will do for me. I also believe if you have a positive attitude and think that it will work for you it will. I am a newbie to low carb like ******* so am not saying I am quailified or an expert but do like the results I have seen so far.

StacyM
07-07-2007, 02:11 PM
I just found this thread as I just signed up today and I wanted to mention I have been doing ******* since June 29th along with my hubsand who only has a little to lose, while I have over 100 to lose. We have both lost great!! I am just starting my 2nd week and this morning I was down 9.6 pounds!
I also go to curves and have lost not quite 20 since Feb. working out there, with no diet change.
The plan is easy...I havent seen on the site where she does NOT encourage water intake? and To me it is healthier then Atkins since on Atkins you can eat all the fat you want. I try to watch my sodium intake also, and my calories have been more then 500 for sure. My lowest day was about 700 calories and my highest was 1,050. I am dropping a little better then a pound a day.

JerseyGyrl
07-07-2007, 03:10 PM
To me it is healthier then Atkins since on Atkins you can eat all the fat you want.

This is a common misconception of Atkins. People believe us "Atkineers" sit and eat lbs of bacon,butter & red meats all day long. Atkins, when done correctly, encourages eating in a healthful manner. It basically preaches moderation....meaning, eating until you feel satisfied but, not stuffed. Induction on Atkins is 20 carbs per day with 12-15 of those carbs coming from salad & veggies. How is this unhealthy:?:

I've been on Atkins 3 years & 3 months now and I've lost 102 lbs. I eat my salad & my veggies everyday....do I eat fat? yes, I absolutely do, however I do not eat "all the fat I want" and I never have since beginning my Atkins lifestyle. Fat is not what makes you fat. Bad carbs are what make you fat....the white bread, the white rice, the pasta, the potatoes, the sugar. Once I learned that little secret & I eliminated those things....I am 102 lbs lighter!!:carrot: Who would have thought!!!

Puncezilla
07-09-2007, 01:36 PM
Thank you Jerseygrl. I agree with you 100% I don't know why people have such a misconseption about atkins either. I actualy eat less fat when I'm on atkins than when I'm not.

callystia
07-09-2007, 01:54 PM
People have misconceptions because other people perpetuate them by not reading the books (or even the official Atkins website), then actually eating the way JerseyGyrl just described. It's all born of ignorance--usually willful ignorance--because a lot of people are still holding on to the pipe dream of "eat whatever you want and as much as you want of it, and you'll still lose weight". *sigh*

Excuse me; apparently I had an extra bowl of Rant Flakes this morning.

2muchbackend
07-10-2007, 09:48 PM
Jerseygyrl you look great!

JerseyGyrl
07-11-2007, 05:39 AM
Jerseygyrl you look great!

Awww...thank you 2muchbackend:hug: Atkins is an swesome way of life!!

Watermeloncrazy
07-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Hi,

I tried ******* and only lasted 4 days. I lost great but I got so sick and decided it was not for me and I would go back to WW because I know that is what works for me. My sister in law has done great on Atkins and another friend on South Beach so I guess you just have to find what works for you but ******* was not for me. Kimmer was so nice and immediatly refunded my money so I could join WW.

One question I have is for someone who has done the low carb program and then switched...I still have the naseaous feeling and I am wondering how long that might last? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes
Thanks!
Setina

KimberMonkey
08-02-2007, 07:01 PM
I just wanted to let everyone that is considering trying ******* to PLEASE not! It is an extremely dangerous VLCD that is producing eating disorder behaviour and health problems at an alarming rate. The diet sounds *somewhat* reasonable on the surface but is simply dangerous. Here are a couple of blogs with some eye-opening information on this "diet". Please share these links with anyone you know that is interested in ******* or currently doing *******. Be Blessed!

www.*******survivors.wordpress.com (You may need tissues for this one!)
www.*******dangers.blogspot.com
www.anti*******.blogspot.com

freedomfighter
08-02-2007, 09:16 PM
And I feel that it is only fair to mention that there are many people out there that are being very underhanded and unscrupulous.

I have been on and off ******* for well over a year. All of the horrible things these trendy new anti ******* blogs suggest...I've not had any problems.

******* is perfectly safe and ABSOLUTELY effective. It is not a FAD diet. It has been around for well over a year. What really cracks me up is that the major naysayers are all members of a certain LC board. They complain, complain, complain about Kimmer and her site...BUT they still keep her plan listed on their forums. People still discuss it, still follow it. Apparently it is safe to follow IF you do it there. Just don't pay Kimmer. Heavens no. That would be oh so very wrong. :?:

Decide for yourself, but I wouldn't rely on these less than unbiased blogs.

chickadee315
08-02-2007, 11:11 PM
a lady at my work is really enjoying it but i heard its extrmemely low cal which isnt good for anybody but if its what you need to get you going on the right path to healthy eating by all means you are your own person, i am doing lc until i lose the weight and then will be trying a more balanced lifestyle like thezone. everyone is different.

KimberMonkey
08-02-2007, 11:14 PM
And I feel that it is only fair to mention that there are many people out there that are being very underhanded and unscrupulous.
It's simple honesty.

I have been on and off ******* for well over a year. All of the horrible things these trendy new anti ******* blogs suggest...I've not had any problems.
If it works so well, why would one need to be off and on for a whole year? :shrug: Oh, right, because there is no maintenance plan and as soon as one goes from starving to actually eating, all the weight returns.
The things the blogs say are only horrible because they are true.

******* is perfectly safe and ABSOLUTELY effective. It is not a FAD diet. It has been around for well over a year.
Effective...yes, as long as you are willing to lose weight to the tune of lost hair, damaged heart function, and a totally messed up metabolism along with a host of other serious problems. It is an unhealthy...no, let me restate...DANGEROUS crash diet with a great potential to throw people straight into an eating disorder....as proven by many already.
A year???? That's your basis to claim it's safety?:?:

What really cracks me up is that the major naysayers are all members of a certain LC board. They complain, complain, complain about Kimmer and her site...BUT they still keep her plan listed on their forums. People still discuss it, still follow it. Apparently it is safe to follow IF you do it there. Just don't pay Kimmer. Heavens no. That would be oh so very wrong. :?:
C'mon Heidi....its never been about the money for those that care. It's about people's health...people's lives. Money is the least of it to those that actually hold some value for life. And you can make this about you being victimized from a certain board all you want, but look around you...some of the biggest voices in the awareness campaign are from the ******* site.

Decide for yourself, but I wouldn't rely on these less than unbiased blogs.
Many have decided for themselves and the information is getting out there so even more can continue to make quality life saving decisions. That's where these wonderful informative blogs are coming from - decisions to care about one's own health and the health and lives of others.

Biased? What's the Bias? There is nothing for anyone to gain by these blogs except to see people's lives get saved. Surely you see that as a worthy cause, don't you?

chickadee315
08-02-2007, 11:22 PM
i also wanted to add that i wouldnt touch kimkims with a ten foot pole....esp after reading those blogs.

KimberMonkey
08-03-2007, 10:50 AM
i also wanted to add that i wouldnt touch kimkims with a ten foot pole....esp after reading those blogs.

Good for you Chickadee! :hug: And make sure to get ANYONE interested in that "diet" to those blogs so at least they can truly make an *informed* decision and know what they are in for if they choose to follow that plan!

Sandi D
08-11-2007, 05:00 PM
I lost 30 pounds with Kimmers diet
and I have had no problem. I use a little more fat then she would like, but I love it, I am not hungry, I eat about 900 calaries a day on most days. SOme people over do it, and are not using their brains and those are the ones that get sick from it, or any diet for that matter. The go to the extreme.
Andabout those blogs abd stuff, How does anyone know if they are real people, It just seems like a witch hunt
BTW my dr knows I am on it and said short term is ok. I am not healthy being fat.
sandi

Azure
08-11-2007, 06:51 PM
I lost 30 pounds with Kimmers diet
and I have had no problem. I use a little more fat then she would like, but I love it, I am not hungry, I eat about 900 calaries a day on most days. SOme people over do it, and are not using their brains and those are the ones that get sick from it, or any diet for that matter. The go to the extreme.
Andabout those blogs abd stuff, How does anyone know if they are real people, It just seems like a witch hunt
BTW my dr knows I am on it and said short term is ok. I am not healthy being fat.
sandi

I would be worried about getting 900 calories a day. I've attended courses taught by nutritionists at college and both said that under no circumstances should someone eat less than 1200 calories a day--it causes the body to go to starvation mode. An occasional day less than 1200 won't hurt someone's metabolism/health in the long run--but staying under 1200 regularly could be dangerous...

I'd be skeptical of any doctor or diet-creator who suggests getting less than 1200 a day is okay--no matter what weight you currently are.

Sandi D
08-11-2007, 07:18 PM
that may be, but its not a WOL for it, its just to get it going and Sept. when My boys are back in school, we will be on Atkins 72
I feel great, My blood work is good and it's been a while sense I felt this good.
sandi

Idealmuse
08-11-2007, 07:53 PM
Even the About.com page warns people away from this diet:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/populardietplans/a/*******diet.htm

Last post got locked... I would recommend locking this one too.