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05-18-2007, 08:12 PM
Hey everyone

Came in this morning to find our moderators have locked our old thread - guess we do talk a lot :). Anyway I thought I would get the ball rolling and start a new one. I hope everyone can find it.

Anyway, all is well with me. Just two days until weigh-in and I hope I will lose a little again.

I don't have any plans for the weekend - always a danger - but I will try and behave myself!


Renny Sue
05-19-2007, 01:00 AM
I'm sorry but I have to do this....


Hee. Haven't had the best week. Worked today, so no weigh in, which is a good thing. I have been exercising four times a week though, which is awesome. I LOVE exercising even if I do need to force myself some days.

My rotaror cuff is much better. I only need one more physio (making it three, instead of the six he originally said) and than that's done. I've got the dyna bands for therapy (I need to get my left shoulder up to the standard of my right one)

I'm also trying to figure out why certain colours are heavier. My dyna bands are green, blue, black (from lightest to heaviest) which is the EXACT same order my weighted softballs are. So what makes blue heavier than green?

05-19-2007, 06:54 AM
Worked a 12hr day today - I'd forgotten how completely physically exhausting nursing is.. my feet are killing me, and the new orthotics didn't help!

Ate well, no exercise today but off kayaking tomorrow and then swimming laps.. and then sitting on my arse in the spa!

Renny Sue
05-19-2007, 07:07 AM
Wait you don't count 12 hours of walking exercise?

05-19-2007, 07:08 AM
How come they locked it? Perhaps only so many posts are aloowed on a thread before it gets overloaded? I must go back to the terms and conditions pages to check it out.

Anyhow, I sat for my exam today. OMG was stressful for the first 5 minutes when i was thinking "What the heck am I doing here?" But then was ok till last ten minutes.

In all I think I did ok. I really struggled with about 8 questions but answered them anyhow and went back to them after I completed the rest of the test. We get results in about 3 weeks. I was panicking that there'd be a heap of algebra and area type graphs and questions (my weakest point), but only one algebra and a form of area that I managed to figure out (well I hope i figured it out). There are a lot of paragraphs and exerpts from books etc that you have to read and then answer questions on like what the writer was getting at in certain phrases etc... and I am of the type that forms an opinion instantly and nothing can sway me so I hope I did ok.

AND the way they word things is so confusing and complexing I figured to look at them simply and was ok.

Anyhow must go get dinner... I am starving.... Had Sizzlers for lunch today (a rare treat like once a year) and bad spring rolls for tea tonight but nothing inbetween


05-19-2007, 08:50 AM
Vonni I wouldn't take it to heart - I noticed they locked a few of the longer threads, and I figured it's an admin thing, to keep everything manageable.

I had a good day. Did my walking, and then spent about three hours trying to sort out my library of books. Didn't get very far with it, and I will need to do several hours on it tomorrow. Oh well - it will keep me out of mischief.


05-19-2007, 08:19 PM
Yes, I do it at the board I manage when threads get too long, because it makes the server go more slowly trying to load them.

Well done on the exam Vonni! I would hate to wait 3 weeks, at least my US exam gives results electronically after 48 hours.

I don't count nursing as intentional exercise, because it's stop-start, and doesn't get my heart rate up. I work in ICU, so it's just walking between 2 bed areas, it's more the lifting and oxygen tanks and helping big men in and out of bed that was tiring! There private hospital ICUs are really just babysitting people, they aren't sick enough to need intensive care. Give me a nice unconscious patient that doesn't talk back and doesn't need to get out of bed any day!!!

05-19-2007, 09:50 PM
Gen I heard something on the radio the other day about an ergonomic workstation which was developed by a cardiologist. It's basically a super-slow treadmill, and the concept is that you keep moving - albeit VERY slowly - as you work. The tests they've done indicate that, if you hold everything else the same (ie eating/lifestyle) for a year, but just use this workstation, you can lose 20kg in 12 months.

Sometimes I think we overstate "exercise", and I definitely believe we don't understand enough about it. Fifty years ago people didn't go to gyms, or own a lot of health-related equipment… and they were thinner. Why? Just because they moved more in their day-to-day life, and didn't have super-convenient access to take-away food. (Well that's my theory!).

Over the last 10 months I've done a lot of thinking about weight loss, and tried a range of things to help facilitate my own journey. I've come to realise that whatever I do, it needs to be something I can manage for the rest of my life. And I know me well enough to know that I couldn't sustain an ongoing gym/swim program - but what I can do is build more "movement" into my daily life.

As it is now I love walking, and in a way I'm lucky because I don't see it as "exercise" - but rather something I enjoy doing. But what I need to learn is that as part of my regular lifestyle I have to move more, and just create a more active environment for myself.

Whether that means walking to the shop for milk, doing a little more around the house and garden, or making time to go and wander around shopping precincts… I've become very conscious of needing to incorporate more physical stuff in my life.

I think that being 'aware' of how you live is half the battle. I'm a lot more conscious now of what I eat, how much I sit, the things that trigger me - and the things that scare me. And I'm almost halfway to my goal weight.

Today I'm planning to sort and re-shelve my books. I have a pretty big collection, and when I moved here I just unpacked boxes and shoved things where they fit. But it drives me nuts when I can't find anything - so as much as it will be tedious to do, I'll feel a lot less chaotic when I have all that sorted out.

Weigh-in day tomorrow, and I'm quietly confident I can lose a little.

Hope everyone else is having a good weekend.

Lindor - where are you? I miss you!


05-20-2007, 06:31 AM
True Ani, I think we do underestimate the role of just moving. I wore a pedometer to work a few weeks ago and did 6000 steps in a shift, which is nearly my day's exercise.

I am also trying to have a generally more active life, rather than be a gym bunny. I enjoy my PT, mostly because of my workout group buddies, it's quite social and fun. I think I'd hate it if it was just me and the PT. I am riding my bike quite a lot to go to the post office or shops etc rather than driving, which is saving me money and fat!

I am hopeful I can lose at least 0.5kg this week - I've had the monthly curse, but that's over and I didn't eat chocolate hehe.

05-20-2007, 07:33 PM
Woohoo - lost 1kg this week! Very happy, as I ate more than usual (average 1578/day) and lost that much. I worked out my BMR and daily calorie needs, and tried to trust it (I usually aim for 1250/day!), and it worked out and I lost more!! So maybe I hadn't been eating enough, which is good!

Also rode my bike to training this morning and burned 1150 cals, so that's left me room for some nice dinner today! GOod luck weighing in, everyone!!

05-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Onya Gen - that's fantastic :)

I lost stuff-all - 0.1kg, and I'm very frustrated. Nine weeks on a plateau, and I'm not liking it.

Going to sit down and tweak my goals, and see if I can't break this stupid plateau. grrr…

05-20-2007, 10:15 PM
Oh Bugga, Don't want to come in here, but I confess I put on, .5 kg. That will teach me to pig out on the weekends lol.Ate everything that didn't run too fast.and drank everything that was wet, excpet for water. Happy to see some of us are losing though.:bravo:
Oh well better luck for me this week.,:crossed: I will have to get to that :censored: gym and :censored: well get my :censored: on that bike and pedel like:censored: ****.
Perth chick, I think your theory is right. 50yrs ago ,it was grow your own veges and everyone had fruit trees etc. And was Mum telling you to eat your veges or you get them for breakfast lol. Now it's more like heres $5 go buy Mc D's.

Renney Sue, My dyna band is grey I am doing the same thing, tied mine up to a handle in the kithcen to remind myself to pull on it now and then. Seems to be working my shoulder does not wake me up in the middle of the nite now.

Nursing!!!! No! No! Not for me, I just could not put up with, not only the people moaning at you, but the doc's as well.
And for the hard job that you do. They don't pay enough.
I will stick to driving taxi's at least I can throw the passenger out the door if they get out of hand, can't do that when they are sick in a bed lol.
Give me a drunk anytime. Well back to work for me,
Have a good day.

05-20-2007, 11:15 PM
:rofl: OMG Mary I can just see you oening the door and giving a good shove and tehm runing after teh cab :whoo: I've been there done that with the drunks, except mines been behind the bar and at a 24hr servo (3am drunk munchers).

OK guys not good for the weigh in this week. Can I take a raincheck till next week? No? Damn! Well the scales say I have put on 2.5kg. How can that be? a week and that much weight? :cry: How depressing. With all the stress this week with my other half I didn't eat for 3 days and then I must admit that George was hanging around the last part of the week, and there's something about George that wakes up the all the Gremlins and Boogie Monsters in my head that tell me "Food is good, junk food is good, have it, have it all". I am going to weigh on wednesday when he has left the building.

I've drank NO water in a week and I know its naughty of me. So today I have already had 2 glasses of water, and I might walk up to get my daughter from school. It's bloody cold though so no telling if that'll happen. I'm also thinking to drink a warm glass of water on rising. Supposed to be a good detox for you and I know all the asians do it and they live forever.

OK Congrats to all who did lose, even the tiny bits. They all add up at the end of the day.

Gen I got a pedometer the other day from Big W. I can't understand how to work the bloomin thing. But I will try.

Tomorrows goal - Drink a litre of water,and no snacks. Maybe even a 15 minute walk around the bock.


05-20-2007, 11:31 PM
Mary, my mum reckons I like ICU because the patients are unconscious (usually) and can't answer back. I don't take crap from the patients! Most of mine are so sick they don't have the energy to be a hassle though!

05-21-2007, 03:10 AM
Hello everyone - sort of went MIA the last week as my son was sick and we were up every night. He has finally slept through Fri night and the weekend but I am still catching up from a week of broken sleep- I dont know how I did it when he was little LOL. I havent weighed myself this morning, will do it tomorrow and post it - but I have been still exercising at the gym, that was my time last week LOL

05-21-2007, 04:20 AM

That's a bummer that they closed the other thread - I was gunning for a record! :P

Well, I am back from Sydney. How can people afford to live there? It is soooo expensive! I was billeted with a fella from Mosman...harbour views from the roof!!

I am going to try to get to the gym this week, I haven't been in more than a month. I think it'll be good to get back into the swing of things.

Sounds like everyone is chirpy and well, good to hear! see you soon


05-21-2007, 04:59 AM
Well, I used to earn a crapload! Now that I'm a poor student, I plan to move back to Melbourne where it's more affordable!!

Renny Sue
05-21-2007, 08:29 AM
The pays are pretty good too. Most people are on $30k-$40k a year. Plus they share.

I got up this morning and went to the gym!

Am currently trying to figure out if I have the time to do a business management course. Apparently for TAFE evening classes can be anytime from midday onwards! I count evening as from five onwards!

05-21-2007, 11:10 PM
$30-40K in not enough to live comfortably in central Sydney!!

05-22-2007, 01:35 AM
I'm over my tantrum from yesterday. I was really frustrated after working hard all week and only losing 0.1kg.

But I figure this plateau has to break sooner or later, and I'm certainly NOT going to put weight back on. I walked for almost an hour today, and I've been very good with food sofar.

It's hard to drink water at the moment - we've been having some Antarctic weather here, and I'm not very inspired to drink water when it's 4ºC.


05-22-2007, 04:41 AM
I can't manage the water unless I add diet cordial. Also, for doing the Mother's Day walk, we received a tupperware drink bottle, which is about 850 ml (huge!). Has a very wide mouth, so I just fill it up and use it as my glass. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I don't have to refill as often, and it's surprisingly easy to drink 3-4 of them over the course of a day, and there's my water intake.

Ani, would it be worth recalculating your calories for the weight you're at now? I was still working on the "less the better" philosophy - and I may go back to that depending on this week's loss! - but when I googled "BMR" and worked out my daily requirements, they were a lot more than I thought. I've got the site bookmarked, so I'm happy to plug in your numbers if you'd like? I know I forget to recheck it as I'm losing.

Have you had your hormones, thyroid etc checked also? It's just not fair to be doing all the right things and not losing! I know I'd lose the plot after a few weeks of that, and I think you're much more determined than I am to keep going with so little reward!

Renny Sue
05-22-2007, 06:36 AM
$30-40K in not enough to live comfortably in central Sydney!!

Yeah but most people in Sydney don't live in centeral Sydney for that reason!

I can survive living in the inner west in share housing on $40k a year (though I do get over $10k in bonuses) Its not that hard if you budget.

Got up again today! Yay me! Its honestly so much better than at night. It gets me up for the rest of the day and I'm much more alert at work now.

05-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Firstly, thanks to Ani and Vonni for sending me a PM about this new thread ;)

The new medication is working ok so far. My mood has stabilised but I don't feel as good as I think I can. I'm looking forward to another session with my chiro/kinesiologist as I usually feel better after seeing him.

Haven't done anything wonderful in terms of exercise. Managed to go to a 6am yoga class yesterday which I'm proud of. Haven't been able to get to the gym just yet though - the motivation isn't back so far.

I think that I'll start doing my star charts again - that gives me a really good indication of how much I'm exercising and encourages me to do more.

When I was on prozac it was great, my appetite decreased a lot but I've noticed that it's back since changing to citalopram so that's something I need to be careful of.

Keep on keeping on ladies :twirly:

05-22-2007, 09:42 PM
Gen if you can plug my numbers in and find out if I'm eating enough, that would be great. Do you need any more info from me?

I've had all the blood tests done, and I'm afraid I can't blame sluggish thyroids or anything else, except the dreaded perimenopause. It truly does slow weight loss down a little bit.

Your posts about the cost of living in Sydney reminded me of when I spent my misguided youth in Paddington. It was an awesome place to live, very arty, very gay, and still relatively cheap (I am talking about quite a few years ago :) ). I lived in a terrace house just off Oxford St, and my neighbour on one side was a well-known actress - on the other side was a married couple, both junkies. And my rent was $30/week.

Anyway, I digress. Hang in there LittleKiwi. It's good that you've found your way here to our new little corner of 3FC.

I walked yesterday, ate well and did all the right things - and I'm determined to keep it up all week. I want to see SOME progress on the scales soon.

Gen I was thinking about what you said about not seeing results. The hard thing to accept is that no matter what I do, I'm getting a result - it just often isn't the one I want. I must say I feel really proud of myself for sticking to it through this plateau. In the past I would have given up - but something has changed in my head, and I'm really determined that even when I'm not actually losing weight, I'm determined not to undo all my good work.

Anyway, must stop waffling and get on with my day. I'm going to walk again this morning.


05-23-2007, 12:49 AM
OK, by estimating your age and level of activity (low to moderate), I get:

1. To maintain weight: 2226 - 2509 cal/day
2. To lose 1 lb/wk (455g): Eat 1726 - 2009 cal/day
3. To lose 2lb/wk (909g): Eat 1226 - 1509 cal/day

So to average those (you'd need to stick to it for a week to work out which activity level is right for you), in order to lose 1-2 lb/wk, you need to eat:
1226 - 2009 cal/day if you were doing 1-5 days of light to moderate activity per week.

=> Average = 1617 cal/day

Is that what you were eating? If you do less exercise, you'd need to aim lower, or vice versa.

05-23-2007, 08:16 AM
After seeing your post about BMR Gen I googled it. OMG I got heaps of hits and looked at a couple - one explaining about it and another that had an explanation on how it is worked out. If my calculations are correct according to this website to maintain my current weight I have to eat a WHOLE BIG 812.20cals a day :yikes: yeah right. They get this figure by the following -
if you are female start with
65 plus
weight x 9.6 plus
height x 1.7 minus
your age x 4

...........................................652.... .....255.......159.8
okay so that means me - 65+(68x9.6)+(150x1.7)-(34x4.7) = 812.20 :lol3:

OKAY someone tell me this is incorrect PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! And the website I got it from was a well known Australian Health site. I'll just not eat hey? :ziplip:

GEN HELP......... What site did you get your info from. I like that one better

05-23-2007, 09:27 PM
Ani with your updated info:
1. To maintain weight: 2183 cal/day
2. To lose 2lb/wk (909g): 1183 cal/day
3. To lose 1.5 lb/wk (682g): 1602 cal/day
4. To lose 1 lb/wk (455g): 1683 cal/day

This is on "light" exercise, so if you do more you could eat more.

Vonni, I've not seen that formula before - generally you work out the BMR, which is what you'd need if you lay in bed all day. Then you use the Harris-Benedict formula to multiply it by your activity level to get your "daily calorie needs".

I used:

05-23-2007, 10:05 PM
Hey Gen

Thank you for that info - I'm going to make a plan now and see how it goes :). And of course I will keep you posted with my progress!

Feeling OK about things at the moment. I walked yesterday, but I must confess I ate a bit wrong… I'm having a bit of a hard time with my business at the moment (the usual mid-year cash flow problem), and having to move house put extra strain on me financially. It's one of those problems that are familiar to just about everyone who runs their own business - getting people to pay their bills!

Anyway, must go and walk so I can get on with work. Hope everyone else is travelling OK.


05-24-2007, 12:00 AM
I know the feeling, I did some contract work 5 weeks ago and haven't been paid yet - apparently the invoice got lost or something... doesn't help me when my terms are payment within 30 days! Give me my cashola!!

As well as that, my nursing agency had some screw up so hadn't paid me since april for any of my nursing shifts - I wondered what the **** was going on. I don't think they would have noticed if I didn't call and say "oy, where's my money??".

So I've been watching my bank account going dooooown for a month or two hehe. Hard when I'm used to a high paying job!

I'm currently freaking out severely about my exam next Tuesday - it's got such a bad pass rate for foreign nurses that I am just sh!tting myself! Also it's very expensive if I have to retest! Eeek.. back to the study.

Also got my uni assignment back and got a credit - the lecturer thinks it's a good mark, but I'm pretty disappointed - I put a lot of work into it, and he didn't really give me any constructive feedback about how to improve next paper. Sucks being a perfectionist.

Renny Sue
05-24-2007, 07:10 AM
I lost .45kg this week! Its not a huge ammount for two weeks, but I'm looking at it, as a loss regardless.

05-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Congrats Renny Sue. Thats right a loss is a loss!
I lost it at work last night. For a start I had worry bout our bub, then I needed someone to go to back office to check on a product for customer and the aparrel manager was on break so I called a 17 year old trainee manager. She upped me said "why should I do it, I'm busy?" really nasty in front of a customer. She was taking a while so I asked a girl to go down and let me know whats going on so THEN the 17yr old rang me from another office to continue abusing me saying "Don't u think I can do it? huh? huh?" like shaping up to me on the phone. Then she came back down wIth only HALF the info i needed glaring at me so I let her have it. She told me she was busy and didn't have time to do that meanial task. I told her "Love yr 17 you are a TRAINEE you have no OFFICIAL AUTHORITY. You are LEARNING. What you need to learn is ulitmately we are all here for the same thing - CUSTOMER SERVICE."

Well, after she stormed off the customer said she was a rude girl. Then my superviser came in to me and I just burst into tears. OMG how embarrassing! She saw me leave to go upstairs and compose myself but now I suppose now the girl thinks haha. I think that incident was just the last straw. I( tend to lose it when I get angry, but I CRY when I get really mad. Strange hey? But
Anyhow u guys don't need to hear any more of my sooking.
Where is Lindor?????

05-24-2007, 08:46 PM
Urgh Vonni - upstarts! I think we have all bumped into one or two of those in our time.

I was in Target a few weeks ago, and the woman at the checkout was being really ripped to shreds (in front of me) by her supervisor - and it was over something really petty. I could see she was close to tears, and I couldn't help myself - I jumped in to defend her. I can't stand officious people!

I've written down my weight loss goals for today and stuck them up on the fridge. Gen's info got me thinking, and I realise there are a couple of key things I need to change - so I'm going to aim to eat 1600 calories a day, walk for an hour, and plan for an extra hour of 'being active' every day.

The other thing I'm going to change is that I'm going to plan my day's meals every morning. Living on my own I am pretty slack about that, but have come to realise it isn't the wisest way to manage a weight loss program. So from today I will plan my eating every morning.

What's everyone got planned for the weekend? My beloved footy team, the Frematle Dockers are playing St Kilda tonight - so I'll be glued to that (and braced for yet another thrashing), and aside from that I want to give my house and garden a good clean and tidy.

It's only three days until weigh-in and I have no clue about whether I'll lose anything this week or not. It would be nice to beat last week's MASSIVE 0.1kg - but given this bloody plateau I seem to be stuck on, I'm not optimistic.


05-25-2007, 03:24 AM
Bugger, wrote a big reply and lost it. Took progress pics this morning at training, after 14 weeks of training. Have lost 7-8kg in that time, but gained muscle tone and lost lots of cms.

Before (me in middle):
After (2nd from left):

05-25-2007, 06:05 AM
WOW Gen - what a difference :). Imagine another 10kg…

I've set 1650 calories/day as my aim for two weeks, combined with walking an hour a day. I'll see if that makes a difference. I've also been much more diligent about drinking water today.

Tomorrow I'm planning to spring clean my house (well, Autumn clean really), and I intend to burn many calories doing that. I know it sounds like a very boring way to spend a Saturday, but it needs to be done.

Lindor - wherever you are mate… :hug: . Hope you're OK.


05-25-2007, 08:39 AM
I have managed to lose about .5 kg over the past two weeks, I guess a little is better than none.

I had planned on having a weekend for ME. Doesn't look like that is going to happen. :(

Kristina has a friend over tonight but the mother is one of those who expects you to pick the child up and drop her off, she lives about 30 minutes away and if I have to meet her where they keep their horse it is also about 30 minutes away. :( I am one that can't say no so I will be running around. Thankfully I told her there was no way I could do it tonight so she dropped her daughter off. I will end up spending about 3-4 hours at the horse tomorrow, but I guess it is ok cos Kristina hopefully will get to ride a bit.

Sunday I am off to church then off to a pony club that Kristina wants to see, it is near the church so not too bad, then off to a 5 year olds party.

I still have to fit my 3 hours with Nana into each day too. She needs help with the bathing, making sure she has her medications, food etc, and I need to wash her clothes for this week, I have been at work so haven't done that yet. Gosh where does the week go to???

Sorry needed a bit of a grip.

I hope everyone else has a good weekend and manages to lose some weight.


05-25-2007, 09:13 AM
Well, I tried talking to manager today, she SHOT ME DOWN IN FLAMES. She herself is finishing in 2 weeks and I guess she's just put it in the too hard basket. I went to the lady who mans the phones and asked her to contact manager and ask if I can have a private chat. She said to get another girl (BM) without even checking what was about, I didn't want that person because thast who this young missy went whining to last night. So I asked a department manager o have a chat, she was willing and while in the room the BM came in and said why didn't I get her, I said so as not to drag her into it, then the MANAGER came in and yelled at me if it was about the crap last night she doesn't want to bloody well hear about it.

I said well obviously you have already heard about it and she said yes, and it's her word against yours. I said well she had no right to talk to me in that way and then the MGR said I shouldnt have asked the girl for assistance in first place its not her 'job' and if someone called her (the manager) to do a job like that she'd be rude too. I asked her if she was excusing the girls manner and noone deserves to be treated that way and said that we're all supposed to be available for customer service. And how was I to know if she isn't to be called for a job that might be 'beneath' her if I am not told. and then said one word - COMMUNICATION. paused then said, it isn't that hard, and if there was better communication between management and staff here the whole place would run a lot better.
It ended up in a yelling match and me bursting into tears in anger and disbelief that someone I thought was a great boss could act like that. She was the one who started raising her voice to me and I couldnt get a word in hardly, so I just asked the BM for my statement back, took it from her hand and said if you don't want to know about it then I'll go higher. This was all said and done in front of about 4 witnesses all management.

I sent email to the HR officer of qld stores and he rang me said the original incident needs to be handled in store by management, I told him that I went there today and also waht happened, he then said he was ringing her and phoning me back.

He called back said my boss would speak to me next shift that we are both there. I said yep thats thursday nights and saturdays, she isn't there those times and she transfers in a week and a bit. Convenient to speak at next shift isn't it. (Maybe I should cross out my well wishes on her good luck card thats sitting in the staff room?)

He told me if it wasn't resolved then he could step in. Hmmmm I wonder how i will go at work tomorrow???

Sorry guys I just had to vent.
Anyhow must run. I wont be around till tuesday. have a christening to go to on the gold coast.

Has anyone seen Lindor?


PS - I wouldnt cross out the card... thats nasty and I'm not a nasty person.

05-25-2007, 09:04 PM
I started my new plateau-buster plan yesterday. Ate 1570 calories, drank 2L of water and walked for an hour.

And then Freo won the footy :D

It's raining here this morning, so any plans for gardening are on hold today. I'm going to try and spring clean the house. After many experimental moments I have FINALLY discovered how to keep cats off my bed - I bought citronella oil, mixed it with water in a spray bottle - and sprayed my bedroom. Works a treat!

I'm trying to stay positive about this plateau, but it's hard. I'm almost tempted to not weigh myself until Monday week, just to give this new plan some time to kick in - but I know me… Can't help myself!

Anyway, I hope everyone has a good weekend.

Vonni I hope you get your work situation sorted out - it sounds nightmarish.


05-26-2007, 02:29 AM
:devil: Quick some one hit me!!!!!! I've been a bad girl!!! :^:

05-26-2007, 08:07 PM
Mary don't tease… what have you done?

I met all my goals for yesterday and am happy with that. Tomorrow I will weigh-in and do my measurements, and let you know how I go.

No big plans for today. Might potter and finish off the housework that only half got done yesterday.

Hope everyone's having a good weekend.


05-27-2007, 08:08 PM
Wasn't able to find the 3FC weight tracker! Had to get a new one from Ticker Factory.

Woohoo - well my calorie counting is still doing the trick (knock on wood) - lost 1.2 this week!

Down to 88.8 kg, total loss: 16.8kg. Also got the body fat scale to work: 44.4%, total body water: 40.5%.

Waist: 89cm
Hip: 109cm
Thigh: 61cm
Chest: 104cm

05-28-2007, 04:50 AM
Onya Gen :)

I lost 0.5kg and I'm not going to complain about that. I'm on Day Four of my Winter plateau-buster plan, and hopefully this will start to work for me too.

Basically the plan is:

• Eat no more than 1650 calories/day

• Walk for an hour/day

• Drink 2 litres water/day

• Write it ALL down

I'll do this for a few weeks and see what happens. If I can break through the plateau, and start losing again, I'll adopt the plan for the next three months. I've set myself the goal of getting to 83kg by the end of winter, and made a promise to myself that I will commit to this next three months and work hard to make it happen.

How did everyone else go?


05-28-2007, 09:37 AM
Well done Ani, 0.5kg is a great start to your plateau busting!!

My goal this week is to stick to my 1478 calories/day, drink 2550 ml/day (3 of my 850ml water bottles), and exercise at least 30 mins/day.

In addition, I have my big scary US nursing exam tomorrow at 0900, so I pledge to drink at least 2 alcoholic drinks at the pub and have a lovely meal to celebrate tomorrow night! :)

PS: Where the heck is everyone? Kylie? Leeny? Mary? Vonni? Vanessa? .... Bueller??

05-28-2007, 08:59 PM
Yes… where indeed are they all? I know Vonni was going away for a christening, and maybe the confusion about moving the 3FC server has kept a few away.

COME BACK - all of you!

Good luck with your exam Gen! I have faith that you'll do well :). Are you going to go and work in the US after this?

I had another good day yesterday and reached all my goals. My weight loss plans are much the same today: work towards my goals and keep a positive attitude! My ticker has been stuck for 9 weeks now - I really, really want to be able to move it on Monday.

OK - slept in until 7.30am today so I'd better get moving.


05-28-2007, 11:23 PM
Yay it's over - well, it is if I passed! I got the minimum amount of questions, and finished within 45 mins, so either did REALLY well, or REALLY badly! Hopefully the former! Quietly confident, but I'm glad I only have to wait a few days for the results!! Now I've got a uni assignment due in 2 weeks - 3000 words about research ethics.. blah.

I'm so glad I'm going to the pub tonite haha.

05-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Hi Everyone!

Nope - not dead yet. :P

Vonni! I don't understand how this has all blown up in your face??? Sounds like a really sucky situation, hope everything works out and the little priss gets what she deserves (ie get taken down a peg or two). As for mgt - what can you expect?

Ani - it's good to hear determination back in your voice - if you were a super hero, we could call you The Plateau Buster...or something...:o

I've crept back up to 89kg - that's what happens when you take your eye off the ball. No fear though - I am beginning to refocus. I'm starting off small, with more water, and less crap food. I might even try and get down to the gym again.


05-29-2007, 12:36 AM
Hi all.

Christening went well. It was my cousins baby that has taken 16 years, 8 IVF treatments, 2 failed pregnancies (1 natural, 1 IVF) to get here. Once here she had to have 2 heart operations. 1 a 'patch it up' op and the 2nd was a major one when she had gotten strong enough. Basically her plumbing was round the wrong way. Now she is wonderful and strong and healthy.

Was great to see a lot of my family I hadn't seen in some years. And they were shocked to see my eldest (17) they hadn't seen her since she was about 11. Even my 27yr old nephew wondered "who's that sitting next to mum?" lol.

The weekend went well as far as food goes too. I'm quite proud of myself. I weighed this morning and I am back down to 67.5. So I'm pleased that my gains or stays over the past month or so is perhaps looking better.

Well done Ani on yr loss. And Gen I'm sure you have done well. I hope if u DO go to the US and work you will keep in contact with us. Lucky you to only wait a couple of days for the results. I still have 2 weeks to wait. Grrrr!

Has anyone heard from Lindor? I went to her profile page and the last post was on our old thread. Getting a little worried about her. Unless her PC has gone cactus?

Ging to do groceries now. Put it off last week so I'd have plenty of moola for the Coast.... BUT I ONLY SPENT $230 including $85 fuel. Aren't I good? But i never got anything for mwa :(


05-29-2007, 07:33 AM
Are you kidding? Judging by how much I gained last time I went there, I'll need this place more than ever haha!!

Sounds like that bubby was determined to be born hey?

PS: Ani, go to Ticker Factory and get one - it doesn't round off the loss or weight, so you can keep moving it along!

Renny Sue
05-29-2007, 08:38 AM
I hadn't realised Ticker Factory didn't round. If they had better graphics I would use them, but I FLOVE the barbell graphic.

I'm having a **** week. I haven't drank water, gone to the gym and have been pigging out. Ugh.

05-29-2007, 12:04 PM
Gen anyone would think we had a lot of time on our hands :), but I took your advice, and now I might be able to move my ticker more often (as long as it doesn't go UP!).

Did you go out to the pub and have those celebratory bevvies? Did you behave? ;)

Kylie and Vonni - good to hear from you both. Well done, Vonni, on your weight!

Kylie don't get down… look at where you started with this. You've still LOST weight, even though the last few months have been tough.

Renny Sue what's going on? Are you struggling with motivation, or do you have stuff going on that's distracting you?


05-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Morning everyone

I had a 'lightbulb moment' yesterday. I was writing in my journal - a daily meditative thing for me - and decided to pose a question, and see if I could answer it. I've known for a long time that 85-90kg is a big emotional thing for me, and I wanted to know why I was stuck. What I came up with was really revealing, and I feel a little bit liberated today.

I woke up this morning feeling like a small weight had lifted off my shoulders - so let's hope this translates into something tangible in my "Ani's winter plateau-buster" :dizzy:

Is anyone up for a June challenge? Since it is the beginning of winter, a time where we tend to hibernate and stay indoors to keep warm, I thought a challenge would be a fun way to motivate ourselves. Here it is:

Let's move for an hour every day! Half an hour of exercise, and half an hour of non-exercise moving about (could be housework, shopping… anything!).

Who's up for it? Now if you want you could set your goals higher or lower - but I thought it would be good if a few of us set some goals for June, and worked towards them together.


05-29-2007, 09:53 PM
Ugh definitely went to the pub.. and couldn't get up for training this morning! Now off to do a 12hr evening shift - that's my exercise for the day!

05-29-2007, 10:24 PM
I'm up for it.
Does hanging the washing out count? On weekends I probably have an hour of that each day lol.

Ok if I set a goal for myself to get motivated to do more housework i'll be right

making beds = 20 minutes
sweeping or vac whole house = 20minutes
mopping = 20 minutes
hanging one load washing = 10 minutes
cooking dinner = 30 minutes
washing up & wiping benches down= 15 minutes

Wow if I do this every day thats one hour 55 minutes. But I need to motivate myself to start then finish all at once. I just give up lately. No sooner is it done that I turn around and its a mess again.:mad: (i used to be a neat freak)

I love my children and I love my partner - But sometimes I envy those that only have to look after themselves. I am an emotional and physical wreck 6 days out of the week. :dizzy:

You know, I even envy my single parent friends. At least the only adult is themselves so they don't have to worry about sharing decisions.

Geeze I better not ponder that thought too hard I might start to like the idea. ;)

Renny Sue
05-30-2007, 10:08 AM
Renny Sue what's going on? Are you struggling with motivation, or do you have stuff going on that's distracting you?

No idea. I've just switched to morning and while I love the feeling after the workout in the morning, but getting up is HARD.

I think I also got my answer when I woke up and found my little friend had decided to visit! Sadly, as I have PCOS its quite difficult for me to gauge when I have them (its a celebration because I've had them two months apart. Haven't had that happen in a LONG time) Hopefully once they piss off I'll get my motivation back. If I don't I'll just have to keep forcing it.

TMI Alert!

I don't know if this is to do with my diet or something else, but did anyone else find after they were doing their diet they *cough* lost control of their bladder? On both Friday and Saturday nights I lost complete control, actully ****ting my pants at a workmate's house (which thankfully she's been wonderful about, but its still so, so embarrasing) and Saturday I managed to get to the loo in time. Only connection is the fact I was eating out and drinking. I'm going to do a test run on the weekend and drink but on my normal diet. If it happens again I'll be going to the doctors the following day.

I also had a full (low fat) pizza for dinner tonight. Blamed it on my periods but I'll be putting on this week for sure.

05-30-2007, 09:12 PM
Hey Vonni

Yes, ALL your domestics count - and I'm glad you're in! We're starting tomorrow, and I think it will be fun.

I had a giggle about your domestic woes and the frustration of being a reformed neat freak. I cannot even begin to imagine what it would be like having all those kids, and trying to keep order. It's bad enough with five cats and no partner ;)

RennySue I have no idea what to suggest to you. I think it would be worth having a chat to a doctor, because it could be as simple as needing to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles, or as complex as having a problem with your bladder. It's best to get it checked out, I think.

My plateau-buster is going well this week. I'm being very disciplined, and I'm enjoying it (which is just as important). Yesterday I cooked up a huge pot of vegetable soup and then froze it in eight small lots. I do that often - very yummy for those cold winter nights when I can't be stuffed cooking.

OK - today I'll go for my walk, stick to my calories, drink my water - and then tonight I'm going to a friend's place for dinner. That's always a bit scary, because you can't control the calories when someone else is cooking, but I'll just work around it. Not going to spoil a fun social night by getting paranoid about an extra few calories!

Hope everyone is travelling OK.


05-30-2007, 10:06 PM
I had a giggle about your domestic woes and the frustration of being a reformed neat freak.

Hey Renny Sue. Thats a problem. I've had a weak bladder for a while. I squeeze my muscles regularly to help. I haven't actually wet myself, but come pretty close. When I gotta go I gotta go NOW. No ifs buts or 'it's not break time yet'.

Please don't think me too forward here (well I guess I am being but plz don't be offended) Have you thought about using benwa balls or Kegal exercises? Check with yr Doc as Ani says, to rule out any infections or damage. I've pasted a bit of info about kegal below.

"The aim of Kegel exercises is to restore muscle tone and strength to the pubococcygeus muscles in order to prevent or reduce pelvic floor problems and to increase sexual gratification. Kegel exercises are said to be good for treating vaginal prolapse and preventing uterine prolapse in women.

Kegel exercises may be beneficial in treating urinary incontinence in both men and women. Kegel exercises are also known as pelvic floor exercises, or simply Kegels.

Although Dr. Kegel contemporized and popularized this practice, it is by no means new. The Taoists of ancient China developed a number of different sexual practices to strengthen and tone these same muscles for health, longevity, sexual gratification, and spiritual development. Directly akin to the Kegel exercise is the Taoist practice of the Deer Exercise. The Yogis of India also had a similar practice in Hatha Yoga known as Aswini Mudra (the horse gesture) which is taught and practised to this day

The pubococcygeal muscles are those used to stop the flow of urine during urination, and they may be easily identified in this way. However, after the muscle has been identified, practicing Kegel exercises during urination is not recommended, as this could lead to a urinary tract infection"

Anyhow - must run off and do some of that dreaded housework. So far I've hung 2 loads of washing and swept my floors. Going to organise dinner in a minute (working tonight) then hang another load and get some off.


05-31-2007, 01:03 AM
Renny Sue, did you mean peeing or pooping? I see you wrote bladder, but then I thought you wrote "****ting" your pants. If the former, a huge percentage of women have incontinence issues - DEFINITELY talk to your doctor, as it can be a physiological thing, such as a urinary tract infection, cystitis etc. If the latter, it's likely your diet. Eating more fresh fruit and veggies gives you stacks of fibre, the results of which can be pooping for your country. I know if I go over my fibre goal I have to stick close to a toilet for a day! If this is the case, you can just decrease your fibre until you find the level that suits you.

I will say though that sometimes you have to grin and bear it, until your body adapts to the new intake. When I started the lifestyle change and took up drinking gallons of water, I was peeing every 5 mins literally! Lasted about a month, then my kidneys adjusted and I was able to handle my fluids again! Hah.

PS: Don't be embarrassed, trust me I'm a nurse ;)

Renny Sue
05-31-2007, 07:10 AM
augigi it was the latter. I've been eating a lot more vegies and fruit, but surely that wouldn't account for me losing control THAT badly?

I've never had issues with bladder control. I'm a world champion holder! Courtsey of having the world's tiniest bladder.

05-31-2007, 07:43 AM
Woohoo - I passed my exam and my USA RN license has been issued by the Vermont nursing board already!!!!!!!!!! :carrot: :carrot:

05-31-2007, 08:13 AM
Awesome news Gen! So what does this mean? Are you planning to go to the US soon and work?

Hope you're not on your way to the pub again to celebrate with an overindulgence of the bevvie variety ;)

RennySue I'm not the nurse here - she appears to be away with the fairies at the moment - but it could be fibre-related. Are you eating a lot more fruit and veges? There are some additives in food that can make you 'need to go now', and as an example if you have too much of some chewing gums, that will do it. Too much Mylanta does it sometimes, as do a lot of things.

And a virus could do it too.

Maybe when Gen pops back down from cloud nine she'll have some better advice for you.


05-31-2007, 09:04 AM
Can I join in the Aussie chat??
And can I join the June Challenge??? Have you guys had challenges before??
I already have the challenge of not having any idea what to do with my time now I have a little baby and am at home full time, Dr Phil and Oprah only fill 2 hours of the day....
I dont know if I feel like joining in the nursing support group as it is too baby related... i think i'd like to talk something other than baby! (she is awesome though just ask me...)

My name is Kel and I live in Brisbane.

05-31-2007, 06:52 PM
Ah ok, I've recovered now. Thanks Ani :) Still have to transfer the license to the state I want to work in, and then get the employer to petition me and get my visa, so I'd say it'll still be 3-6 months till I get there. But I will step up my plans to get rid of stuff and move back to my parents' place in Melbourne. I'd like to spend some time at "home" with my family and friends before I go, if I plan to go.

Renny Sue, if I were you I would go and get some lomotil, or buy some panadeine (codeine is a constipating agent), so you don't have accidents until you sort out your diet. I would say your diet can definitely be responsible. There are a few things, such as increased fat intake along with the usual suspect of fibre.

Increasing your fibre and water intake bulks up the stool but also encourages the movement through the bowel... ending in the pleasant explosive diarrhoea... eek. Do you track your input of fibre? Maybe try going to calorieking if not and entering your diet to see what kind of intake you're getting. Doing that will also give you an idea if you're getting the levels of nutrients you need.

Hi Kel! Sorry you walked into a conversation about crap, so I'm impressed you didn't run the other way :) Welcome to the thread! Your bubby is GORGEOUS! Can't believe you have the energy to worry about weight loss when you have such a little bub - good on you!

05-31-2007, 07:52 PM
Hi Kel! Sorry you walked into a conversation about crap, so I'm impressed you didn't run the other way :) Welcome to the thread! Your bubby is GORGEOUS! Can't believe you have the energy to worry about weight loss when you have such a little bub - good on you!

LMAO!!! Here Here Gen. What a conversation to waltz into.

Welcome Kel to 3FC Aussies.... I have a little one too (14 mths) and I don't belong to any mothers groups on or offline. Purely for the fact that HELLOOOOO Mums are people too. Not just a production manager!

I agree with Ani and Gen Rennysue about yr diet. As Ani asked, have you been chewing gum? And also a lot of sweetners and artificially sweetened foods (such as extra) have sorbitol which can have a laxative effect. So do a lot of liquid medications. My little one had a little too much baby panadol in her recent stint in hospital and it was running out of the poor little mite just like rapids.

I also get cramps and need to "go" if I chew to much gum or drink to much coffee. Cigarettes do it to some people to. I know it sounds weird but.... Whats normal these days? No one is normal as everyone is so different normal is impossible to define. You just will end up figuring out yr diet enough to know whats right for you.

Blast gotta go, baby had bad night and is whinging now (supposed to be sleeping)

Vonni xx

05-31-2007, 09:10 PM
Hey Kel - WELCOME! It's great to have you here :). Congratulations on the weight you have already lost too.

Absolutely join our challenge. It starts today, and sofar it's you, Vonni and me. All we have to do is keep accountable to each other for how much we "move" every day. Some of it is structured exercise, and some is the things we do every day.

So for me, I plan to walk for an hour today, and do 30 minutes worth of domestics. I also need to go to the stupidmarket.

And even though I have a LOT of writing to do over the weekend (and a major deadline on Monday), I have finally bitten the bullet and advertised for someone to share this house with me - I'm really struggling paying $300/week rent, so even though I really don't want to, I'll see who responds to my ad.

That also means I have to clean and unpack the spare room… so there goes a few more calories.

Anyone else want to join our June challenge?


05-31-2007, 09:38 PM
Sofar today Ani I have sat on my bum for an hour..... Does that count? Hmm??:^:

05-31-2007, 09:41 PM
VONNIE! It only counts if you're doing your kegels … and LOTS of them :p

05-31-2007, 11:21 PM
I would be in it, but I'm going to be away for a lot of June, so I might not be doing as much exercise as usual. I'll have separation anxiety from my PT haha.

I finally went and got a quote for the damage I did my car last year - I got home from overseas, half jetlagged and asleep, and tried to unpark in my parking garage...oopsies, knocked off a side mirror and scraped the guard/door. Quote: >$2000!!! Son of a whore! Can't believe how expensive it is. Sorry, that's my favourite quote today.

Also now have to tell insurance co. that it happened recently, as opposed to almost a year ago... how to explain the rust on the door...?

Such a pain, I have put it off for ages but I have to get it done now because my rego needs renewing and car isn't roadworthy without a side mirror.

05-31-2007, 11:35 PM
Where are you off to? And what plans are in place for keeping your weight loss going while you're out of your routine? Hmmm?

I have a similar issue with my car. When my VW Golf was three MONTHS old, a kid ran into it on their pushbike (the car was parked at the time). I too need to make an insurance claim, while convincing the insurance company that the rust is 'recent' :).

I'm SO not in the mood for working today. What is it about deadlines that makes me suddenly feel compelled to spring clean?

06-01-2007, 07:52 AM
Lindor? Liiiindor...? Where is she?

I love the honesty of this board. I reckon it's pretty cool that we can spill our guts and there's a ton of support there for you!

I am thinking about changing my degree, from business to secondary school teaching. I have always loved teaching (was an instructor in Army Cadets for about 4 years), and bf reckons I'm 'good at English', so *shrug*, it sounds pretty good actually. I would love to be a combination of my english teacher and Social Studies teacher. Those two were the coolest people ever!

well, be back soon

06-01-2007, 07:56 AM
Oh did I forget to mention that I'm an undercover insurance investigator?

06-01-2007, 08:03 AM

hehe sorry guys couldnt resist. I had to make a claim last year just after I had bub... Was in Dr surgery for blood pressure check and we heard a scrape and a bang... Someones tailer had come off their car and hit my parked car. Turned out I knew the person (small town) and it was their insurance that paid out, but I 'neglected' to tell the company that they never had a safety chain on trailer. And were speeding through roundabout that made it swing off on exiting. Oops. But all good now.

Oh, and my blood pressure? PERFECT! Dr reckons I thrive on stress :yoga:

My pressure had been for 2 weeks 165/109 give or take a couple points.


PS Ani my kegals are always happening. I even do them at work when I can't get anyone to cover me a loo dash break. :p

06-01-2007, 08:09 AM
You're a cheeky bugger Vonni :p .

Now - did you do any exercise today?

Renny Sue
06-01-2007, 08:45 AM
I did! Had a PT session and did 20 on the treadmill.

I don't chew gum, its 'now allowed' on the SureSlim diet. Would sweetners in Diet drinks have done it? Maybe my grandfather was right......

06-01-2007, 08:58 AM
Sweeteners in diet drinks could definitely do it. How many do you drink every day?

06-01-2007, 11:22 AM
thanks for the welcome.....
i had suckiest day ever!
I have been looking forward to Mummy and Me yoga since before I was a freakin Mummy, since at least when I was 14wks pregnant doing 2nd trimester yoga.... and my baby (the sweetypie) decides to scream worse than she EVER has in public JUST as we are about to start the mummy yoga bit and then sleep like a freakin angel just as we got to the baby yoga bit! silly baby...
so for my first day of june for exercise i got maybe a couple of minutes of relaxation at yoga.... hmmm does that count!
how about i use yesterdays exercise instead! I went for a walk with my 3 border collies for about 40mins.
you know how you have those days when you just could cry!? well i did! and I did!

oh and dont worry about crap conversation, i am a mum now all we talk about is the bowel movements! my baby is a different kind of normal to "most" babies she only poos once a week or so, i think it is awesome but most people think she is weird, i dont have to clean poey bum so i dont care what they say...
but Renny I have a similar problem to you... and i had never thought of it to be to do with good different food i am eating, i have been blaming the once a fortnight treat fatty food i have....
my brother is a doctor and said that it could be greasy food that does it to me. (i just realised i said my brother was a doctor, he is a scientist studying to be a doctor so i treat him like one and email him with health concerns) (he is EXACTLY like House really smart but a pri*ck really, used to decide i had nothing of importance to say so used to ban me from talking....)
do you get cramps before?? i get goosebumps and thats when i know i am going to get really really bad cramps but i have not had an accident....... i was also thinking mine was to do with caesarian healing too all my insides have not worked they way they should since Jemima was born...

the weightloss on my ticker is kinda cheating, as most of it was lost in the first 10 days after having jemima and a lot of it was jemima or support network for baby and probably fluid too as i was retaining a lot at end of pregnancy so day 10 i had lost 9.5 but i guess i have done ok loosing another 3 since then
i have a friend who has just emailed me to say that she will do weight watchers if i will.... i have never been to the meetings before i have always just stolen my mums books and did it myself....
i have been more committed the last couple of weeks and been beating myself up if i dont lose 500 grams a week.... i have worked out i will be at 74kg by end of january if i loose half a kilo a week which makes me see that slow and steady will get there.
when i get to 74 i will be 'happy' but i will still want to get to lower, i am just using 74kg as a weight as that is where i was when i got pregnant (yep i put on 30kg when i was pregnant)

before i got pregnant i did the optifast diet and lost 15kg between end of feb and end of april, not allowed to do optifast or tony ferguson while breastfeeding.... there are lots of things you cant do while breastfeeding,.

sorry for such a long post, i had such a crappy day today you'd think i'd just want to go to bed and wake up tomorrow as jemima was cute as pie this arvo so should probably be fine tomorrow....
anyway looks like i just wanted to 'chat'
have a great weekend
tomorrows exercise will be walking around ikea with a 6ish kilo baby attached to me, i'll make sure to do some lunges while she is in the pouch surely that has got to count! (maybe i'll walk the dogs in the arvo or something too)

what kind of exercise does everyone else do?

06-01-2007, 11:26 AM
Sweeteners in diet drinks could definitely do it. How many do you drink every day?

is that true??? my brother said it probably wouldnt be it when I mentioned this as a possibility for my funny bowel...... (and then i'm like great i just dobbed myself in for drinking an unnatural amount of softdrink)

i was drinking a heap of diet softdrinks every day but have found that i am a heap better now that i only have one for lunch and one for dinner and make sure to have 2L water everyday.....

so i reckon you gotta be right and fake sugar in softdrink CANT be good for you..... i make myself have an apple for afternoon tea now when i used to think it would be 'better' to have a diet softdrink (no points vs 1 point) but i KNOW how good water is for weightloss so have been trying to grap a bottle of water rather than a can out of the fridge....

06-01-2007, 11:54 AM
before you go looking for the ignore button
this 3rd post is just so i can figure out how to subscribe to the thread and dont have to keep finding it... in another forum i'm on it automatically subscribes you to EVERY thread you reply to....

06-01-2007, 12:46 PM
LOL don't worry about it Kel.

For exercise, I share a PT with 3 people I met online, and we meet three mornings a week for an hour. As well, I have a hired treadmill which I use, I ride my bike, and I go swimming once a week. Have gone from not swimming for about 10+ years to swimming 1.5km after 6 weeks!

Ani, I'm off to my niece's engagement party in Brisbane next weekend, then off to parents in Melbourne for 2 weeks, to see my brother's new bubby. Also going to the snow for a couple of days while I'm in Melbourne with an old uni friend - only been skiing once, so that'll be amusing!

Exercise wise, Mum has an exercise bike, and they live one block from the beach, so I usually walk/jog by the water while I'm there.. love the sea. I'll have my HRM watch, so I can track what I'm exercising!

Best way to rule out things giving you a problem with your diet is to TRACK what you're eating, and when you're having issues. You can then go back and check out what you ate and when.

06-01-2007, 06:53 PM
Hi People, Yes, I am still here lurking around. My gosh what a topic, been there done that, had a tummy bug, thought it was wind, but it had humps. lol. It happens!
Gen, congrats on passing your exam, all that hard work paid off. My DIL is a nurse, she looks after prem babies, my son is an IT manager, and they spent 3 years in Edmonton, Canada, had the time of their lives. It opens up so many things you can do in your life.
Hello Kel, Well done on your weight loss, your bub looks lovely, cheeky little thing has her tongue poking out already.
A tip to you ladies, try going out and sanding around the rust, to make it look like you were going to work on the car yourself. Done this many times on my taxi’s, seems to work as far as the panel beaters are concerned. Last year I had some dum *** lady do a U turn on me and nearly wrote me off the road. She had no insurance, and it has cost her about $9,000 to pay back my company. Just goes to show while we may ***** about having to pay, it is worth it.
As for the exercise, gave myself a good talking to this week and for the first time in many years, ran a whole 10mins on the tread mill. :woohoo: Just told myself I was a lazy old so & so, ( can’t repeat what I said) and I could do better.
Weight has not moved but Hubby gave me a very nice compliment. If this is too rude please don’t read. He said that I had toned up so much and felt so nice. He almost felt like he was being unfaithful.
There are times when he says the darnest things. REALLY MADE MY WEEK!!!! So for my exercise challenge I will be working on upping my run to 15mins.:tread:

Well, have to run , Hubby is awake making eggs on toast for breakfast ,yum.
The only day I change my breakfast, from weety bix and fruit.

06-01-2007, 08:52 PM
Kel the only exercise I do is to walk for an hour every morning. A couple of nights a week I get my resistance bands out and do a few exercises with them - as well as some situps… but that's it. I decided that I needed to find something that would fit into my lifestyle, and which I can keep doing for years. Walking is it for me.

MaryL good to see you.

Gen it sounds like you've got a busy busy month. I haven't been to the snow in years (in fact the last time was ten years ago in Prague and Stockholm) - I can't ski for nuts but I'm a hoon on a toboggan :).

I walked for an hour yesterday, and ran around a shopping centre for another hour - so I met my goals.

Today I'll go for my walk, then I'm going to get the vacuum cleaner and mop out. That will get me to today's goals, and this afternoon I'm going to clean out the spare room in case anyone answers my 'share accommodation' ad in tomorrow's paper.


Renny Sue
06-02-2007, 12:44 AM
I go to the gym 4/5 times a week. Cardio and weights and I love it! I am single with no committments though.

Both nights were fatty foods (Italian than steak) I got cramps right before I lost it. (no matter what I couldn't hold it. I was fine till I got out of the car and started walking towards mine. Than it was horrible)Sat I begged at the servo to use their staff toilets.

06-02-2007, 04:35 AM
Renny Sue, I could tell you a story that would make you feel better, but I won't as it's horrifically embarrassing. Suffice to say, you're not alone!

I had Thai for dinner last night, and the scales had boinged upwards this morning, so have been madly drinking water to get rid of the excess sodium. Still (just) on track to have a 7700 calorie deficit this week, so still aiming for a kg lost. May have to adjust that aim tomorrow depending on how much exercise I manage tonight and tomorrow though!

06-02-2007, 08:01 AM
Oh shoot u guys been busy since y/day. I read half the posts.... Sylie Kel I really gotta reply to you. Look forward to a novel tomorrow, trust me it WILL be a novel, just ask these guys. And they dunno where the iggy button is or they would have done it to me forever ago. lol. Write away, we'll read it. But three things before I sign off ...#1- yup the artificial sweetner will do it. #2 apples help boost along yr metabolism so thats a good thing yr doing. #3 C-sections don't help things, I've had 2 natural and 2 c-sections, things are DEFINATELY different since the ops.

Ani I was naughty, no exercise today. Last night was crap with the other half. he's being a prat long story, so got an hour sleep last night then worked on my feet from 8.15am this morning - 6pm tonight. Can that count as exercise? I wasn't idle, I promise!!!:D

Gotta run bed now, I am stuffed. But will read all in morning. Looks like you've all been busy but my eyes are to tired to read anymore.... Or write another chapter.


06-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Vonni I would definitely count that as exercise… phew, I'd fall over if I had to do your job! Now where's that novel you're promising us? Is everything OK with your other half? You've hinted a few times that you've got stuff going on, so I hope you're OK.

Gen I am amazed. How do you know how many calories you expect to burn/swap? Do you write everything down, or does one of your gizmos keep track of it for you?

I met my goals yesterday. Walked for an hour, then did a couple of hours worth of domestics - and I drank 2.7 litres of water. My calories were a little high (1720), but I'm not going to beat myself up for that.

Today I need to keep cleaning (I spent most of my 'cleaning' time unpacking boxes from the spare room), do some washing and vacuuming… boring stuff like that. I'll go for my walk first and then get into it.

I'm hoping for a good result again tomorrow. I'll be really happy if I can drop another 0.5kg.


Renny Sue
06-03-2007, 12:17 AM
I was all good, got up went to Pilates and the CLASS WAS CANCELED! ARGH!

Even worse, because I was only planning on doing Pilates I didn't bring my joggers so had to turn around and come home. I'll only make that mistake once! Am planning on pulling out my Pilates DVD later and doing that.

06-03-2007, 12:59 AM
Yes I'm somewhat anal retentive, and have a training log excel spreadsheet, where I track my intake and what exercise I do each day.

I started it mainly to record my HR monitor info re max and average heart rate, so I knew if I was getting fitter, but it's evolved so now I record each training session in there.

Also help me track my in/out calories so I can aim for the 7700 calorie deficit per week. If I have hardly any cals left by Sunday, I just have to exercise madly that day to earn them!

Not sure how I'll go today - had major cravings yesterday and ate lots of cereal, so we'll see. About to head out to the pool for a swim, so that should do about 3-400 calories.
Edit: just added in yesterday's food, and unless I eat negative calories today (!), I definitely won't make it to the 7700 cal deficit. Hope to lose btw 500-750g now - if I can make 88 even I'll be rapt.

06-03-2007, 05:14 AM
Augigi - i used to write everything down and work out how many calories i had burnt on the cross trainer in relation to what i had eaten (easy on the optifast diet as you basicallly dont eat anything) this time i am bored of writing down the same things.... fruitybix and lite milk for breakfast, 2L water, etc, hubby said i should get some symbols for the boring stuff i do everyday... maybe i should do it on the computer then i could just copy and paste it.... i used to have a weight chart, i found it the other day and put in the day before jemima born weight and the weight after 10 days and it looks so funny goes from 74 to 103 that is just disgusting.... NEXT pregnancy i am not fooling myself with the eating for two or i have to eat or i'll be sick thing... i just freakin be sick.... i call jemima cookie monster as 10kg of my weight gain was in the first 10weeks of pregnancy when i couldnt figure out why i wanted to eat cookies

vonnie - how old are your other kids??? 4 kids is amazing... i dont have room in my house or my car for that many, but i want a lot of kids.... do you "work" as well, i hate it when people if I work.... no i just sit at home on my arse all day and look at my baby..... what do they want me to say??? I am not going "back" to work and am trying for number 2 but dont think it will happen anytime soon as i am breastfeeding, doc said not to anyway, i am going to doc tomorrow to ask about some new pains that i blame on c-section... getting sick to death of people saying that the weight will just drop off as i'm breastfeeding or dont you love this one "it took 9 months to put on so it takes 9 months to take off" thanks that makes me feel heaps better.... although they might be right.....

i cant remember the name of the girl who posted Elinei? - anyhow my brother got a scholoraship(see why i'm not the doctor) to whatever uni course he wanted and he picked some IT business thing, started it decided he hated it and almost stayed the 5 years just not to disapoint other people, but then i told him all the stuff i'd done in 5 years so he dropped out and now is back doing Maths and Spanish teaching.... he is so smart he was dux of his highschool and now is in Chile studying as he found out that studying for 6months in a spanish speaking country counts towards his degree in australia, so i say follow your heart and study english and social teaching, teaching can take you anywhere ESPECIALLY if you are qualified english teacher, they give english teaching jobs to anyone these days overseas so imagine how far you could go with qualifications! and also teaching my baby to poke her tounge out and find her feet has made me think how incredible it must be for teachers to see results...

exercise this weekend for me - ikea yesterday and then walk the dogs in arvo, today just walk the dogs in arvo, does breastfeeding count?? cant remember how many times i've done that this weekend...

i just changed my weigh in day, i was depressed at contstant disappointments on Monday just coz it was monday so didnt see results for 2 weeks so changed dayto thursday.... am going to weigh in tomorrow for fun of it but only tell if it is better.... otherwise it nevefr happened.

i want to reply more but my hubby just got dinner ready so i better go...

06-03-2007, 05:27 AM
I use the database to enter my food, that's easy because it has all my favourites listed so I just click them off, don't have to spend ages writing down my food. My spreadsheet isn't that detailed, it's just total cal intake for the day, then whatever exercise I did and cal output.

06-03-2007, 05:35 AM
Gen I keep an Excel spreadsheet on the go too - not as comprehensive as yours by any means, but just to record my calories. I have no way of knowing how I will go tomorrow at weigh-in, but I know I've met all my goals.

And just my luck… after a 5-month absence, it's TOM for me today. Still managed to walk for an hour and do a few hours of leisurely domestics. I even cleaned the oven, and that was a hideous job. I've barely used it since I moved in, because it was so gross - and I reckon it hasn't been cleaned for a few years.

I wish Lindor, leeny and Barb and the rest of the old crew would come back. Would love to know how they are all travelling, and what's happening in their lives.

Kel, the doctor might be right - that's REALLY soon to fall pregnant again after having a baby. And if you're still healing from your c-section, it might be wise to wait a little while. Spend some more time getting to know this baby :).

OK - better go and sort out what I'm having for dinner.


06-03-2007, 07:07 AM
Kel. I have 7 all up, HIS, MINE, & OURS...
Girl 17, Boy 12, Boy 9, Girl 6, Boy 5, Boy 4, Girl 14mths. The eldest boy and 2girls are MINE and the baby girl OURS and the other boys HIS lmao. Have I confused anyone yet?

Yep I took 10 mths off work, was supposed to be a year maternity leave but I got itchy feet to get back into it. I love my job most of the time. Makes for a busy life, a messy house and sometimes a few to many take aways. Mind you, the take away thing has settled a bit now I'm back inot the swing of time management.

Be careful trying for another baby so soon. The outside heals well, but the inside is scarred and can take a long time to heal properly. If you haven't healed properly before getting pregnant again you have a higher risk of miscarriage, or pre-term labour and sometimes rarely, but for me that risk is still too high - rupture of the uterus if too much pressure is put on it. You also need time to emotionally heal. Ani's right too in saying get to know the baby. Time is so swift and they grow so fast. Enjoy the moment.

(I took over 12 mths to physically heal and longer to emotionally heal from my first c-section. I had a pretty traumatic labour and then traumatic emergency ceasarean. I lost a lot of blood during labour, baby did a u-turn which made the op a necessity. Then over half my blood during op as they couldn't get her out so I tore and tore into arteries had major blood transfusion, died on the table, baby was flat when born and need I go on. lol. Thats why recovery took so long. Last one was planned op and a breeze though even getting pregnant I knew it was risky from previous damage and had to be assessed thoroughly by doctor first.)


Ani and Gen I was writing things down but I was getting sidetracked and then forgetting what I had before I got a chance to write it.

But I promise tomorrow I will start to do so. I am goign to set reminders on my mobile.

Speaking of writing things down want to know the crap I ate ths week???
A whole block of nestle milky bar white chocolate (a big block)
A tim tam
A serve of hot chips with tomato sauce
a packet of home brand cheezles.

I know it doesnt sound like much but to me it is unacceptable. Especially when I sit on my bum to eat it.

Shoot BB eviction. BBS


06-03-2007, 07:55 PM
My Gosh 7senuf your family sounds like mine.13 all together, only 7 are mine. Yours, mine theirs, ours,and over the years taken on specail needs kids on holidays and weekends. Even had one young friend of the kids living here for about 3 weeks and never knew the difference. lol. 27 grand kids so far, and 5 haven't even started their families:dizzy: .At family gathering I am thinking of putting name tags on them all,(with parents names) so I can tell who is who. On most days it's dishes and washing up to your eyeballs. But I would never be without any one of them.I only have to get out there and crack the whip now and then and everything is cleaned up.
Have to go son is coming in with that Mummmy thing.
Can you take me to work.
Mum <<<< sucker is going to take him.
Have a great day people

06-03-2007, 08:35 PM
Look at my ticker - it MOVED! And… I am halfway to my goal!!!

I lost 1kg this week and am 87.4kg this morning - very happy with that. Gen thank you for the info you gave me which motivated Ani's Winter Plateau-buster - it's working :)

So - moving right along. This week's goals are very similar to last weeks. I will plan my meals, write down what I eat (and stick to 1650 cals/day), walk for an hour/be active in other ways for 1/2 an hour, and drink plenty of water.

I am going to try to make it to 87kg next Monday. Just being able to lose something each week after a long plateau will be a relief.

It's a Public Holiday here in WA today, but I have to work for most of it. I still plan to walk for an hour before I start.

How did everyone else go?


06-03-2007, 09:08 PM
:cheer2: Way to go Ani. I think I am excited for you as if it were me. You have tried so hard and waited so long stuck in this plataeu you deserve a reward. A lovely pedicure perhaps?

I've lost none but gained none either, so I count that as ablessing in disguise. Will just have to start EXERCISING :ebike: . I don't think my body really knows what that is lately.

Ok for movement so far today I have done a huge load of dishes (dinners from last night (lazy me) and brekky). Prob about 20 minutes. sorted out the washing 10 minutes, hung one small load 5 minutes, made a couple of beds 15minutes. I am going to try and get out for a walk today. Maybe even when I go to town I will take old pram and push bub along river path for half an hour. Will be going to woolies later on so add about half hour for that. I love shopping but HATE grocery shopping. It's so depressing, hundreds of dollars for only a dozen bags. If we didn't have to eat we'd be rich.

Will let you know if I manage to do it or slack off. Not much motivation today.

MaryL I always thought you had a huge family. I like the idea of the name thing, AND having parents names. That way you can honestly decline ownership if they misbehave lol. Naahhh It's all good. Love my lot but yep can be a handful. I understand the sucker bit though. My eldest gave me a really hard time for years (name calling, emotional abuse etc...) but I STILL do things for her. Only thing is now if she starts on me I will stand my ground and say no a bit more often. She's finally starting to learn to be treated with respect and love you need to appreciate it and not take advantage. She has a lovely boyfriend whom she lives with and he treats her like a princess, but at the same time stands his ground with her too. She didn't like it at first but as accepted the world is NOT hers for the taking and we are not put here to be at her beck and call.

Gotta fly. Have another load to hang (big load - 10 minutes)


06-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Congrats Ani!! I'm so pleased for you, how lovely to see movement!

I, on the other hand, had movement in the other direction! I gained 700g. Probably because I didn't exercise as much as I planned to, so my calorie allowance was a bit too generous for the activity I ended up doing. Ah well, I'm not too discouraged, I'll recalculate this week!

06-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Gen don't get discouraged - the body is a strange vessel sometimes. Are you putting too much emphasis on exercise and its role in calorie burning? And are you relying on Calorie King to calculate that? I've found that Calorie King (as useful as it is) overestimates most exercise calories.

The other thing I have discovered (through much trial and error) is this. I'm not sure how well I can explain this, so bear with me here. Let's say you walk for an hour - according to my calculations that means I will burn 310 calories. Now that's all good, but you have to bear in mind that you would have burned about 100 of those calories if you were laying on the lounge watching TV. So I think it's better to be a little conservative in your calculations - especially when you consider that weight loss is 80% food and 20% exercise.

I know you have a lot more knowledge than me about all this stuff, and I don't want to sound like I'm giving you a lecture… I just want you to succeed with your goals. And I know you will :)

Vonni - thank you for the encouragement. I'm really pleased to see some movement too, and I'm hoping I can keep it up.

I think that being able to maintain your weight is often as big a 'win' as not gaining any. We have to learn to maintain throughout the journey to our goals. And given how much running around you do at home, I'm surprised you don't burn a zillion calories - even if you do eat TimTams and cheezels :p

06-03-2007, 11:07 PM
I'm surprised you don't burn a zillion calories - even if you do eat TimTams and cheezels :p



06-03-2007, 11:41 PM
You're a bloody ratbag Vonni :p

Now instead of expending 50 calories trying to find cheeky emoticons to shower me with love and affection, go and run around the block!!!


06-04-2007, 06:06 AM
Haha love the icon. Ani, I have a HR monitor, which I use to measure my calorie burn. I do however find that I can't not exercise - I'm just not disciplined enough with food if I don't exercise, so I need the exercise to be able to eat what I want to!!

06-04-2007, 08:26 AM
I'm the same Gen - have to exercise or I lose my focus. I wasn't suggesting you don't exercise… just thinking out loud about how the best calculations in the world can overestimate calories burned.

I decided to have a rest day today. Aside from the fact I've been having really hideous cramps all day, I looked back over my little chart and realised I haven't had a 'rest day' for more than two weeks.

So today was it! Back on plan tomorrow though.


06-04-2007, 09:09 PM
Slacked off. Didn't go for a walk, bub was being a cranky little cow. But did more washing and wandered around the yard for a while and thoroughly vacuumed house.

Today so far have done dishes, cleaned one bathroom, cleaned babies room and made my bed. (oh and made an orange and pppy seed cake) about an hour all up. Does the time spent making the cake deduct the calories of eating a piece? Hmmmm???

06-04-2007, 10:25 PM
I'd say definitely yes, Vonni!

06-04-2007, 11:27 PM
Vonni you crack me up. I hope you took the time to make yourself a lovely cuppa, put your feet up, and savour that piece of cake - and not hide behind the fridge scoffing it ;)

I appear to have picked up a little winter bug. Not quite the flu - a little more than a cold… and I don't have the energy to exercise today. But it's all good!


06-05-2007, 01:16 AM
ani - yippee for half way there! how long has it taken??

everyone has so many children, the his and mine and ours thing is so Brady Bunch, must be complicated and exhausting sometimes.... i kinda have that with my dogs, i brought the mum and dad with me from my old marriage and then they had puppies and my new hubby had never had any pets so we kept a pup and that is "his" dog (especially when itused to piss in the house) and the other 2 are "my" dogs (and my dogs dont eat the crap he feeds his dog)

yep i know i should wait longer til getting pregnant, and fully breastfeeding should take care of that, we will just wait and see what happens

did someone say BB evicition??? am totally sucked in to BB this year, the last 2 years me and hubby did not have a telly so didnt watch it so i think that is why we (ok me but i dont want to be BB loser by myself) are so into this year... I - like the rest of oz - want Travis to win at the moment, he is so doey it is so so funny, he is clueless it is so cute, love the rocks he brings in to nominate...... want rebecca out and wanted nick in the house he was funny

i been doing the exercise thing, walk around the lake yesterday and 17 mins on the cross trainer, today depending on when jemima wakes up i will take the dogs for a walk... 4pm worst tv timeslot ever usually gets me out of the house

i think maintaining is a big thing, and should be learnt along the weightloss journey, i have lost weight on many occasions but never maintained it... you wait i have a zillion excuses as to why i put it back on (pregnancy has been best excuse yet but wont be able to use it again....) so staying the same has not been as disheartening as it could have been lately, especially as i am aiming to lose so little at a time..... i so so wish i had scales that told me if i lost 400grams, mine just jump up in 500gram blocks so a little depressing if i dont loose enough for it it jump whereas i would maybe like the motivation of seeing at least SOME loss.....

what kind of diet is everyone on? i am pretending to do weightwatchers.... not counting the points and the last couple of weeks writing down what i eat, this week havent done either.... bit of a joke when you are breastfeeding if you ask me.... breastfeeding points would allow for a freakin big mac everyday! whereas normal points would let you dream about a happy meal... so how can you lose weight with so many points as i am yet to see the direct weightloss benefits of breastfeeding

vonni did you breastfeed your baby? i had/have heaps of issues with the mental recovery from my c-section and now with this weight that i gained when i was pregnant have only just convinced myself to enjoy the now while losing the weight rather than mentally putting everything aside til i lose the weight..... especially as i have figured out it will be end of january when i reach first goal IF i lose 500grams a week so that wouldmean i would miss out on jemima's first year, apparently the most precious.... i have had a lot of problems finding my feet as a stay at home mum, actually more problems becoming a housewife... i suck at housework.... but perhaps thinking of it as exercise will help that? tomorrow is going to be housework day.... bring on the mop and jif

:carrot: this carrot dude just looks so funny i had to use him....

fake weighin day yesterday morning was as i expected, i put on 500grams so i tried again this morning and am back to what i was last thursday, so hopefully this thursday i will be still on track and lost 500grams - then i will have a whole dancing carrot party as i will be the lowest weight since jemima born (not sure if i have hit 91.5kg in the last 4 months but pretty sure i havent hit 91kg)

happy tuesday

06-05-2007, 04:40 AM
Kel, I think I'd have the same problems. I am 32 and single, no kids and no pets. I have been single for 4 years since I broke up with a serious bf, and I still can't imagine another relationship! Ooops can you say "scarred for life"? Hahaa.

I am starting to get clucky around babies (the biological clock rumour is true!), but I can't imagine being a housewife or mother, really! There are lots of ladies here with stacks of kids, I am in awe of what they get through in a day - I have enough trouble looking after myself!

06-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Thanks Gen and Ani for the words of eat cake. lol. I DID eat cake and I DID put my feet up with a cuppa :coffee: It actually isnt too bad fat wise. I might sit down later and work out exactly the KJ content. But the whole cake only has 125gm butter 1/4 cup sugar. I use lite milk and also light cream cheese for the frosting. Hmmm can I say I used lite butter? Naaa! I's end up like pinocchio :nose:

And Ani, I used to be a mad midnight sit behind the fridge door scoffer of anything and everything. I used to get up and have a biscuit (or 2) and milk, or a handful of chippies, or a row of chocolate if it was there. I stopped it, but lately have been grabbing a handful of nuts in the middle of night to stave off the grumbling gremlins in my tummy. I know I should stop feeding the buggers. Or they'll grow and multiply!

Kel I breastfed my eldest for 6 weeks, got mastitis and was toooo painful so stopped. My next for 6 mths my next for 13 mths (little bugga wouldnt get off) and this bubba for about 2 mths. Tried and tried this time, but was torn and bleeding and in agony. Her feeds would last 2 hours. Also my milk had no nutrition in it, she wasn't putting on any weight and the Drs were getting concerned so we comped her with bottle for a few weeks and was on the full bottle by 3 mths. It was devastating and I think I cried every time I fed her for a whole week. I refused to let anyone else give her a bottle (even her daddy) and was quite aggressive about it too. :boxing: BUT in saying that, if I had to do it all over again I would not hesitate to go the bottle if necessary. And not feel guilty about it.

About the weight thing????? I think it's crap that breastfeeding helps you regain your pre baby body. Maybe helps your uterus yes, but as for the rest.... no! Just sensible eating and if you do eat extra make sure it is nutritious for you and bub. You only need an extra 8oocal while feeding so I have been told by a zillion nurses and drs and dieticians. So don't make the mistake of thinking you have to eat heaps. You can get that by snacking on fruit and nuts through the day. Perhaps graze on them while feeding.

Ani I hope you get better. Nothing worse than being sick, but not quite sick enough to stay in bed. I eat heaps when I have a cold. Hope yr not the same. lol.

Put yr feet up, rug up in front of the tele for a day. You deserve it. You are so disiplined in yr work and walks that it's not going to kill you to take a day off and have some ME time. Have a nice cup of chicken soup lol. (hmm) or maybe a nice hot milo?? lite milk of cause!:p


06-05-2007, 07:12 PM
PS: Vonni, I wish I could maintain when I don't exercise! If I don't exercise 5x week, my arse grows, without fail!

06-05-2007, 09:06 PM
Hi ladies :wave:

Well, here I am, back again. It's been a slow few weeks but the new medication finally seems to be making a big difference. In fact, I'm feeling so good that I've forgotten to take my pill yesterday and again today. BIG note going on my bag to remind me to take it when I get home tonight!!

I went back to the gym yesterday for the first time in weeks and I'm pretty sore today. A friend has convinced me to take part in a duathalon with her in October so I'll need to get my fitness levels up for that. It's a 1km run, 10km bike, 3km run. The cycling will be fine but the idea of running is terrifying!! :yikes: Has anyone here ever done anything like this?

Congrats Ani on your weight loss :hat: :cheer2: that's really awesome! I'd love to see the scales break into the 80's ...... something to work towards I think.

:twirly: :twirly:

06-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Kel I've been doing this for 10 months. I'm slower than most people, but I just keep reminding myself it isn't a race.

I wrote an article yesterday about the Top Ten things that have kept me on track. I'll post it here if anyone's interested - otherwise I won't bore you.

Vonni I dream of being the weight you are now! One of these days…

LittleKiwi it's great to hear that things are picking up for you. I bet you feel relieved that something's working. You'll get there, down into the 80s - hang in there!

I had another day of not doing anything yesterday, still recovering from this bug. I'm going to try and walk today and see how I go.


06-05-2007, 09:34 PM
one handed baby trying 2 sleep post.............

hi ani - would love 2 see top 10

kiwi - when is the duatholon?? that does sound full on! bike ride sounds fine?! bike ride sounds HUGE i'm thinking about doing the bridge to brisbane but not sure yet, i've never done ANYTHING like that so not sure at all, its not til august though and i think you can walk it.....

vonni - with this extra 800 calories i have a problem.... extra to what??? i dont even know how many i should be having full stop??!!! grrrr i mean extra to what i usually eat is too much extra to what i'd like to be eating probably not enough?? any website i should go to to figure it out?? breast v bottle debate is huge at the moment well it is in my life... sick to death of it, just wish babies being fed breast or bottle was out there and normal so that women didnt beat them selves up if they couldnt or simply dont want to breasfeed, as i reckon line up 10 adults and you tell me which had formula and which had breastmilk.

baby screaming so better go

06-05-2007, 10:22 PM
Kel, if you want to tell/PM me your age, weight, height and level of activity (# exercise days/wk, light/mod/hard), I can work out how many calories you want to be on from the website I use. Or else if you scroll back, I actually posted the website link last week.

I so did NOT feel like getting up this morning for training, but since I woke spontaneously 1 min before my alarm went off, I decided I might as well go, once I poked my eyes back into my head (late night!). Did 616 calories woohoo!! Lots of skipping - as in 1000 skips - my trainer is sadistic!

06-06-2007, 12:30 AM
Duathalon is not till October so I've got ages to get the fitness levels up. They do have an option where you walk instead of run but I know that I won't train if I sign up for that one!

I biked 10km at the gym last night and I really pushed myself and did it in just over 20 minutes. So long as I'm on the flat, I'm fine on a bike but running scares the bejeeses outta me!!

06-06-2007, 07:15 AM
Kel, ask Gen, she has a website she goes to for calories to eat vs weight height age etc.... I went to one and it was so not right. told me i should be eating something like 800 cal when i should be on just over 1200.

Got my STAT results back :( Don't think I did to good. Will let you know. But I did have pretty major stuff going on at the time. Like 6 days before, other half and I split up. Had MAJOR HUGE argument (on mothers day of all days)and some pretty awful things were said (by him). We were back together sort of tiptoeing around each other when I sat the test, but I couldnt get my head around any preparation for it.

If I don't get into my course I am going to do aged care, and sit the exam again next year.

Have to fly. A friend has asked my to write a statement on the quality of water (or lack of it) and health issues in my old town. The lobby group have an appointment with parliament tomorrow and she wants it for that.

C u all later


06-06-2007, 07:17 AM
PS littlekiwi welcome back :D

06-06-2007, 09:09 AM
i suck
i was full tonight yet still NEEDED to have a handful or two of M&Ms with hubby.... at least i didnt eat them alone.

dont think i did too badly other foodwise today and definately had my 2L of water but it has been full on raining all day so didnt do any exercise just vegged out with bubba

weigh in day tomorrow, first official weigh in day since last thursday so thinking of it as a test of changing days... is going to make any difference? ho hum PLEASE let the scales be kind!!! (if they are not i am probably going to offically join weightwatchers for some structure and no nonsense weightloss, figure if they have a way i can lose weight by not exercising then with a bit of exercise i should be right (in my mind them points plans are meant to work without exercise and exercising is a bonus)

gotta go hubby calling me......

06-06-2007, 09:33 AM
OK Kel. Your BMR is 1728.055 calories per day. Your daily calorie requirement (depending on your activity level) to MAINTAIN your current weight is:
- Light exercise (1-3/wk) = 2376 cal/day
- Moderate exercise (3-5/wk) = 2678 cal/day

I've averaged those, so estimate if you exercise 1-4/wk, you can eat 2527 cals/day to maintain your current weight. Because you're breastfeeding, we can add 300-500 cals (let's average at 400), so the figure goes to 2927.

1. To lose 500g/wk, reduce by 550 cal/day = 2377 cal/day
2. To lose 1kg/wk, reduce by 1100 cal/day = 1827 cal/day.

Hope that helps!! Sounds like about 2000 cal/day while you're breastfeeding should lose about 750g/wk. Give it a try, as you may need to personalise up/down slightly after a week or two to account for your body.

LittleKiwi, GREAT to see that you're feeling so good!! I am about to go OFF my antidepressants after about 9 months, so fingers crossed I don't fall in a hole!

06-06-2007, 10:20 AM
hi everyone

wow you girls can talk!!

Well, the meds are working... yay! I've evened out, and rolling along somewhat calmly. I'm still having misery episodes, but not as scary as before.

I'm thinking that I need a goal to aim for in terms of weight loss. Dualathons and such sound inspiring. That's maybe not my idea of fun, but I'll see if I can find something like it.

Keep on keepin on!

06-06-2007, 07:05 PM
Hi Kylie! I agree, I'd love to have a goal that is more health or fitness related, rather than a weight number. I would LOVE to say I've done a triathlon, but I can't run well enough with my injury to train for a few months... maybe next summer if I'm still in Australia. I'd definitely swim more often if I wasn't so lazy and it wasn't such a pain to wash, dry and straighten my hair afterwards!

Yesterday I did PT in the am, lots of skipping, then I went to dinner at a friend's house about 5 kms away, and I rode - man, it sucked coming home, it was freezing and uphill .. I don't know what I was thinking, but I did do 1000+ cals from exercise for the day!

06-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Well, I didnt do much else yesterday but a couple hours shopping. It's raining here too and I am thinking of going out today to look for a dryer. All these kids the washing piles up pretty quick if I don't keep on to of it. I do have a 9kg washer/dryer combo but it heats up inside and spin sucks the moisture out of clothes rather than tumble dries, and it takes hours. (sorry guys thats the only way I could put it lol can't think of the technical term.)

Going to town this morning, Target has a sale on and bub just needs a new jumper (prob not, but its an excuse). Then going to secondhand shops see if I can rustle up a lounge suite.
Working tonight so won't get on till tomorrow.

Oh yeah, been eating heaps too. George is ready for a visit next week so I must be getting ready and 'laying down the nurturing fat' or something..


06-06-2007, 07:36 PM
kylie WB - glad to see yr doin ok:)

06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
It's so good to read all your posts and see that everyone seems to be doing pretty well.

For the first time in god only knows how long, today I actually feel happy!!! :bunny2:

I went to see Pirates of the Caribbean last night with the lovely man who I booted out of my life when things got tough. He's been great and I actually really enjoyed seeing him again last night so we'll see where that path leads. Movie was really good too!

Gym tonight and I'm going to try and concentrate on jogging. Wish me luck!

:twirly: :twirly: :twirly:

06-07-2007, 12:08 AM
I've been watching something on tv and this information was like a light bulb...

People can become addicted to alchohol, cigarettes, drugs and food. To treat a normal addiction you take away the offending product. But you can't take away food. Food is a life giving thing. They say if you give and achoholic 3 drinks a day, pretty soon they are falling back into old habits. If you give a person a little hit of the drug or morning cigarette they'll be wanting more. They say that pretty much if a food addict cuts down so much eventually they will build back up to eating more again and sometimes more than ever. So we need to aleviate our NEED for food. Talk to people, get out and do things, take ourselves AWAY from the food.

Pretty depressing isn't it when you think of it like that. But it's true when you really get down to it. I broke my habit of midnight binge eating and have started back into it again after months of abstaination.

I think I am going to put post it notes around. Like - "Do I really NEED that or do I just WANT it. Is it going to help me live a healthier, happier, longer life or just happier for 5 minutes?"

On chip packets I am going to put "A handful only is ok but how many handfuls have I had today?" On lollies I am going to put "I know I will feel sick in about half an hour after eating these! Do I want to feel sick?" "Do I want my sugar levels to rise? "DO I want a headache?"

At night before I go to bed I am going to put signs on my cupboard and frisge doors saying "Do I want to wake up in the morning feeling like I have eaten a dog s*#t sandwich? Wait till beakfast"

Sorry for sounding depressing guys, but I've just eaten a bowl full of cheezels while watching this show on Home and Health (Austar) "627lb woman" It's sad and I know I have a friend just like her in Tasmania that I lost contact with years ago. The show has prompted me to try and get in touch with her. I really hope she is still alive, as she was a very sick woman. I feel disgusted with myself for being "too busy" for the wonderful people in my life.

From now on I am NEVER going to be too busy. If my kids want to go to the park, I'll go. If my partner wants snuggle time I'll give that. If friends want me to come for coffee and chat I'll go. If I know I should be going for a walk and WANT to go for a walk I won't make excuses that I'm too busy.

There is always something to do to keep us busy, but everything will still be there AFTER we actually make time and do things to make us and those around us really happy.


PS---- LINDOR If you are lurking please know that we are not to busy for you..... Please come back :( We miss you!

06-07-2007, 01:17 AM
I second that Lindor, where are you!??

Now, this is so stupid, but I went and had my first pap test today, at 32 yo. And I'm a nurse! Isn't that terrible? I've had one friend telling me to go for years but I was too chicken. All these ads on TV got to me, so I went and had it done - only took 5 mins! Of course it was a bit horrifying, but as the ad says, not as uncomfortable as cervical cancer! Also took my car to the panel beater, so had to walk home, and the ride to the docs. Will have to ride to training in the morning too - hope it's not pouring down like today!

06-07-2007, 01:50 AM
Vonni that's really interesting. I don't think we give careful enough thought to food as an addiction - and I'm very sure we don't educate ourselves well enough either.

After last week's effort of losing a kilo I have been slack this week. I know I've been a bit sick with a bug, but I have used it as an excuse not to walk, and to "comfort eat". Really let myself down!

Your comments about putting weight back on made me think. I know four people who have lost weight in the last couple of years and then put it back on. They changed a lot of things about their lives while they were losing weight, but went back to their old patterns once they reached their "goal".

To me that rings major alarm bells. It makes it really clear that if I am going to succeed with this I have to change my patterns while I am still losing weight. That doesn't mean depriving myself, but it means learning to eat my "treat" foods within my calorie allowance.

For example I eat chocolate regularly, but I buy 'fun size' packs, or small amounts - and each of them is around 70 calories. Easy to fit into my daily allowance.

I also LOVE potato chips - but there is no way I can buy a packet and just eat a handful. I have had to relegate them to the banned list. But when I feel like savoury munchies I buy snakatas and eat a small pack of them - again, around 70 calories.

It is my intention, as I go through this journey, to re-educate myself about living a more healthy lifestyle. I don't consider myself to be on a diet, but rather to be changing how I live my life.

I was a bit down on myself today, so I looked back in my journal to what I had written at the beginning of the year. Back then I was 95.6kg, and not feeling at all sure I was doing anything right.

The trouble with food is that we attach emotion to it. Rather than treating it like fuel for our bodies, we call it good food/bad food - we describe stuff as treats, comfort food etc. I think that unless we can understand our relationship with food we will have limited success with long-term weight loss.

I don't know - I'm rambling.

And I miss Lindor too :(

06-07-2007, 09:01 AM
Hey Hey
I suck, didnt lose any weight this week... didnt put any on either so that makes it OK... JUST OK though......

Thanks heaps for the calorie thingy gen, bloody confusing but i think i get the picture stick to around 2000 calories so step one buy a calorie book.
so that is with moderate exercise and not everyday???
after todays weigh in i am thinking very seriously about joining weightwatchers for real.....

vonni - food being an addiction - hmmm - i always put it down to me A - having no will power and B - enjoying eating
my problem is i can eat no worries a lot of food when i am not in anyway hungry.... my husband is the total opposite, makes an interesting combination... he can and all the time does put half a packet of chips away, half a packet of m&ms away will even put less than half away, when to me i'd just finish the pack...... maybe if i think of my over eating as an addiction and a problem i will have more luck in actually stopping... at the moment i am just trying to change what i am eating i think rather than not eating when i am not hungry (i have been gettin heaps better at this one too) i so dont want to put on weight again... i have been there done that enough already and i am only 26....
life is too short to not enjoy it... my hubby and i have always lived by that... we keep things simply and enjoy eachother and now our baby, we go on picnics and we go on roadtrips and we cook together and dream together, we enjoy life and eachother so much that when it comes to special occasions we find it really hard to spoil eachother as we do so all year

a fitness related goal sounds really really good.... that way i'd be 'training' for a reason other than weight loss..... hmmmm...... am going to think about this one even more.... bridge to brisbane maybe......

exercise today, 20mins on cross trainer after i realised i sucked at weigh in and then walk around shopping town, not too bad......

06-07-2007, 10:38 AM
Kel, don't be too disappointed - maintaining and not gaining is a good result! If I go off my plan for even a day or two, I gain weight immediately. Boohoo. I don't think your number was 2000 exactly, it was whatever I posted at the end, 19-something?

I did do WW to get started (just online, no meetings) and lost 10kg in 12 weeks, then went to If you're online, you don't need to buy a book - the database is online, so you can record food straight onto it (and it's free!!), or write food down and enter it once a day. It tells you how many calories to aim for exactly as well. I found it more helpful than WW, because instead of just points, CalorieKing gives you targets for nutrients like calcium, and macronutrients like protein, carbs, fat etc.

Just think i'm learning more about nutrition and how to fuel my body properly instead of counting points.

Then again, if you do "Core" plan on WW, or as it used to be called, "No Count", you don't even have to track points, just eat whatever you like off the list, which is quite handy (as long as you don't eat many processed foods).

06-07-2007, 10:52 AM
By the way Ani, I'd like to see the Top Ten list of your keeping on track things!

06-07-2007, 11:09 AM
I'm too scared to use calorieking, Gen...I'm afraid it'll tell me what I've been eating lately!!

06-07-2007, 06:19 PM
Haha - well I figure I've eaten the same, whether I record it or not! May as well write it down and minimise the damage.

I was SO annoyed this morning. A girl I used to work with was meant to meet me at training to try it out, as she was going to cover my training days while I was out of town. My car is getting fixed (and she knew this), so I had to ride my bike - got up and left home at 0530, rode in the POURING rain to training... only to find that a) My training buddies had reverted to the 'wet day' venue, which was not where I was and not possible to ride to and b) My work colleague had texted me to say "Oh, I'm not coming, sorry".

Man, was I pissed off! So I rode back home again. Then again, I've done my 620 calories for the day, even if I am soaking wet. And I was able to ride the whole way instead of walking up the big hill near my place for the first time.

God, I'm exhausted, and it's only 0719hrs.

06-07-2007, 06:34 PM
God, what a morning Augigi!!

I'm so proud of myself, I ran for 10 minutes straight at the gym last night!! I've never done that before so I was really happy with that. There was a girl on the treadmill beside me who was probably about a size 16 or so and she was amazing - ran for 20 minutes straight and then jumped onto the elliptical trainer. I wanna be like her! :dizzy:

Unfortunately I went home and scoffed half a container of tangy fruit lollies :(

I have no self control with things like that, as the rest of you have said - once a packet gets opened, I have to eat the whole thing. For some reason I can't just have a couple.

06-07-2007, 07:20 PM
Gen well done on the bike ride. Maybe being pissed off was enough to keep you going up that hill. I won't say big hill because you have mastered it now its only a bump in the road :D

Kel bridge to brisbane sounds good. I've heard of it, the thing is, it sounds like the story bridge to brisbane city ----- um like 5 minutes . :lol: Naaa I know its a 12km run. Good luck with that. Who knows, I might get there and race ya. (next year)


06-07-2007, 07:29 PM
hehehe vonni its the GATEWAY bridge, i thought it was the story bridge too... the only time they let people on it without cars is the bridge to brisbane so i may just do it to say i've done it..... hmmmm and shock value for my dad, he always pushes my mum to do it, i think she needs the push so he would be impressed and shocked if i did it, there is a 4.5km option as well so we'll see

thanks again gen for the calorie stuff i'm going to check out calorie king
what a shocker of a morning you had..... and to think i was in bed for all of it..... just think if you had known she wasnt going to be there or where the wet option was you wouldnt have got your bike ride??

06-07-2007, 08:44 PM
OK Gen and Kel, here you go. This is an article I wrote for an ongoing series called Confessions of a Fat Chick. I'm allowed to reproduce it here because I own the copyright :dizzy:


It has taken me several diets, years of failed attempts and a lot of frustration, but after 10 months and 17kg I have finally worked it out. How do you successfully lose weight? There is no secret, no magic pill – in fact it is simple. It's just not easy.

1. Educate yourself

There's no point making a vague statement that you want to lose weight. You need to know what you weigh, how much you want to lose - and then work out how many calories a day you're going to eat to achieve that. Burying your head in the sand will only result in your arse getting bigger, so find all the resources you can, invest in a calorie counter, and run amok.

Experiment a little, because the actual numbers will take a few weeks to work out - and give your body enough time to adjust.

It's stunning what you will learn about your body and its relationship with food if you just take the time to listen to it.


Scary thought, but it's true that some form of exercise will really help weight loss. It tones up your muscles, burns calories, and makes you look and feel a lot better. You don't have to buy a gym membership, expensive equipment or trendy gizmos. A whip around the house with a vacuum cleaner and mop will burn as many calories as a walk - as will an hour in the garden.

But whatever you do, do it regularly. For me a walk everyday not only makes me feel better, but it's a daily reminder that my life is changing - and in a much more healthy way.

3. Throw out the fads and count your calories

Fads do not work. Neither do diets. The most successful and long-term way to lose weight is to count calories - ie to consume a little less than you use. It isn't rocket science - it's just hard to stick to because you WON'T lose 20kg in 3 weeks, but you WILL have to be willing to stick it out for the long haul. You may have to give the middle finger to Maccas and KFC, but that's OK. A few less dollars won't hurt corporate America.

Going too low on the calorie count won't help in the long run either. Never ever go less than 1200 calories a day - your metabolism will slow down, and your body will start to burn its lean body mass. Bad mistake! In fact, my plan is to eat as close to my 'maintenance' calories as I can while still losing weight.

Treat yourself. Weight loss isn't punishment for bad behaviour - it's you working on becoming the best you can be. In the process though, don't feel deprived. If you want chocolate - eat it. Just as long as it fits in with today's calorie count, it's all good.

PLAN YOUR MEALS. I find that if I work out in the morning what I am going to eat that day, and then kind of stick to it, I have a better chance of reaching my goals.

4. Set short-term goals

If you want to overwhelm yourself and set yourself up to fail, tell yourself you're going to lose 35kg - and then slap yourself around the head when you jump on the scales next week and you've only lost 100 grams. Best idea is to set small, achievable goals and work towards them. Me - I set myself a goal of losing 5kg and keeping it off. That's all I ever do! When I get there, I give myself a metaphorical pat on the back, and move on to the next 5kg.

Some people reward themselves with massages, pedicures, shopping treats etc - I reward myself by walking around in a body that is carrying five less kilos. YAY!

And don't just rely on the scales. Some people are so attached to the scale I am surprised they don't give themselves a nervous breakdown. They are a TOOL - one of many ways you can measure your progress. Just like a tape measure, or the fit of your clothes. Scales will give you a snapshot - but they can't tell whether the weight includes fluid, increasing muscle… or even if their battery is flat: and maybe it's the scale which is underperforming - not you!

5. Get in touch with your inner mongrel

In order to be successful over a long period of time you need to get in touch with your inner mongrel. It takes passion, obsession - a bit of weirdness even - to singlemindedly stick to something like burning kilos.

You need to draw on your stubborn, determined, even arrogant side in order to succeed with this journey. That doesn't mean you'll always be nice to be around, or even pleasant. You may bore your friends stupid with talk about kilos, calories, BMI and other crucially important things. You may even look down your nose at people who load their shopping trolleys with processed crap. That's all perfectly good and acceptable.

But you also need to be tough for a number of other reasons, because the biggest battle will be with your own mind. You got fat for a reason - much of which was emotional related, and you need to challenge your vulnerable self to let it go. Often an uncomfortable process - and those of us who turn to food to fill uncomfortable, sad, boring, lonely, scary and vulnerable moments… we know all this.

6. Nurture, pamper and please yourself

It's so important to look after yourself throughout this journey. Meditate, sing in the shower, find support - do whatever you need to help yourself feel good about what you're doing. Shamelessly fish for compliments, buy smaller clothes, join a support group, get a massage or an extreme makeover.

This is the new you - and even while you're going through the process of change, treat yourself as though you are that thin, sexy beautiful woman. Do a 'princess' on yourself - and go all out!

7. Prepare for the plateaus

They'll come. And they'll creep up when you're least expecting them. I've had a couple now, and I've renamed them "practising maintenance". As your body adjusts to the new you it will have a few moments where it shocks itself: "You're starving ME". Just play nice, be patient and usually the plateau will leave you. Sometimes it's an emotional block that will cause them to happen - and for many people this is a danger time. It's where we turn into drama queens, throw in the towel and give it all up! Don't do that - just chill, ride it out, and get on with losing some more kilos.

My longest plateau was nine very frustrating weeks. Hideous - but it passed. The first time I hit a plateau I threw out every single item of clothing that was too big, too loose - and just reminded myself it would not be attractive to put any of the weight back on and end up fat AND naked.

8. Practise maintenance

Don't forget that when we get to our goal weight we have to stay there. So it's a good idea to get it into your head NOW that every single day we are practising maintenance. Every food/drink/exercise decision we make has some result - start to change your whole mindset to embrace the new healthier, fitter, thinner YOU!

9. When the emotional blocks come - look them in the eye.

Ah - the dreaded emotional blocks. Yes, there are REASONS why we wrap ourselves in protective layers of fat. For me it's about safety, vulnerability, not wanting people to see who I really am - and unless we confront those issues and find a way to deal with them, our weight loss journey will become a roller coaster.

Whatever you need to do, do it. Talk, write, join an online support group - cry, scream, bash soft pillows… it doesn't matter, but don't be afraid to confront those emotional barriers. Every time I get 5kg off I challenge myself to let the next layer come off. I check in with myself that I'm feeling emotionally safe (or not), and work right through it.

10. Be bold, bolshie and bloody determined!

Yes, get obsessive. Make a chart that shows your weekly weigh-ins, stick it on your fridge, and point it out to everyone who visits. Not only does it help keep you accountable, but when you're having a bad day or two, you can have a look at it and see the progress you've really made.

Let everyone know you're losing weight, and frown sternly at anyone who suggests KFC for lunch.

Experiment with different food. Don't let it get boring, but give your tastebuds a treat. Throw out sauces, gravy, salad dressings and make your own. Try different things.


Pretend you're a camel about to cross the Sahara and DRINK HEAPS OF WATER. Your body will lose weight much more efficiently if you are hydrated. Even in winter it's important to try and drink 2 litres of water a day.

06-08-2007, 12:21 AM
and maybe it's the scale which is underperforming - not you!

here here I like that Ani.

In fact I like the whole 10 points. Three cheers for Ani...... Hip hip - hip hip - hip hip........... Anyone gonna say hooray?

Kel I think the 4k walk would be easier. I know I know most of you probably going to say NOOOO aim for the biggy. But truth is, it's only 2 months away. 12km is a long way and to train for that in 8 weeks? Perhaps aim for that one for next year.

In fact, I might aim for that one next year too. Just to say I DID IT!!!!

We have a run here in my town its about 8km. Can't remember whaty its called. You know My other half has a friend who is into rockclimbing, cycling, pentathalons and the like. He is a fitness freak. He often rides 60km from his town to ours then back again ---- "Just because!" He can even rattle off lung capacity resting and at different levels of activity. I've tried to get him to take me rockclimbing but he says no. :( He is very advanced and I'd probably just slow him down His brother is willing to take a beginner so maybe I should. Will let you know.

Going to eat some chocolate now.


06-08-2007, 08:58 AM
Hey Hey
Ani - that top ten is awesome.... love number 7, need number 7, plataeuing is where i sometimes fall off the wagon, practising maintenance is going to help me heaps.

Gen - Calorieking is awesome too (EVERYTHING IS AWESOME) (hehehe) I think it is going to help me heaps.... today i GUILT FREE ate m&ms coz i knew i had enough calories left to have them and also an extra taco than i would usually let myself..... i think maybe it does overestimate the calories a little as the yoga i did today looked like it used more calories than i really think it did, i think of exercise as bonus calories that i should use.... but i think i used at least 33 of them today... shock horror kel's abusing the diet already.....
making M&Ms part of my day will work as with milo and cookies, if i know how many i am 'allowed' to have and that is it i can do it.....

exercise for me today - yoga for mummies (jemima still screamed then slept through her baby yoga... loser baby doesnt want to do yoga.... well i got news for princess she IS going to do yoga....) and then i went for an at least 40min walk with my dogs and neighbour, will try for walk with hubby tomorrow and next couple of days.... weekend is where i slack off exercise and everything...

we go view our pixie photos tomorrow we got some of jemima and some of the 'family' it maybe be my official 'before' photo.... as i think it is kinda cheating to use the photo of me just before i left for hospital to have Jemima....
took some cute photos of her and me today, i may put it on my baby ticker or profile or something

have an awesome long weekend......... i'm going to go get the bridge to brisbane stuff and ponder on it for a day or two and then see if my mum is doing it..... LOVE long weekends... this one even moreso as i thought last weekend was.

what do you guys do for a 'living'?? I like to hear what people do these days, as i am now "just" a mum.....

06-08-2007, 09:39 AM
"Just a mum" is a bigger job than all paid jobs Kel. Don't underestimate it or underestimate your worth.

Mums are miracles


06-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Kel, I agree with Vonni - 'just a mum' is the most important and undervalued job in the world.

What do I do for a living? I'm a journalist/writer - and it's fun. For those of you who are into BB, you may be interested to know I'm interviewing Emma next week (assuming she's evicted tomorrow, which is pretty likely).

I'm back on track after three days of self-sabotage. According to my scales I have gained a little bit since Monday, but it's my own fault - and the only way to deal with that is to get right back on plan and keep going forward.

Today I have to go to the city (been putting it off for nearly two weeks), and then have a deadline, so I'll have to settle down and spend the afternoon writing… as well as all day tomorrow.

But I'm going to try and squeeze a walk or two into the weekend, and hope to not do any further damage to this week's plan!


06-08-2007, 10:35 PM
i'm living in a world where you have to be more than 'just' a mum, even my pop cant believe i am not going back to work.... think he secretely likes it though.... hubby and i just live simple lives and dont have things like foxtel or broadband so we can afford for me to stay home (will be better next financial year as this financial year i earnt too much for centrelink to really want to know us...) all my friends are going back to work or are working part time already with babies younger than jemima, sister in law is always doing things.... more and more i am letting myself just enjoy being at home one on one with jem....

ani - awesome job - i am big time into BB at the moment... hubby said he heard on the radio that emma hit laura on thursday or friday.... but they didnt say or show anything, i should google it and see.... but then i may get addicted to BB sites...

cried at the shops today (just little tears) coz we were going to gloria jeans and we had to leave because i didnt have the willpower to stay and not have a iced chocolate (with cream) or a vanilla slice or something and i knew i wasnt hungry.... i was going to have a chai but then i know it would have been mostly creamy and fatty too so we left, kinda proud of myself for not giving in to temptation but kinda very mad at self for not being able to have anything coz of willpower issues..... i have chai tea at home which i can monitor what goes in it.... ho hum

got the pixie photos back, wishing i had dressed jem up like i wanted to... we just went for the white shirt and jeans look all of us which is kinda boring and not our jemima at all, she is always in stripes but they said no stripes or bright colours... so i am going to go to a different pixie photo and go all out with bright colours and tacky shots and see what they come back like... hubby couldnt help himself and bought $300 worth of photos though! i will scan some in and put in my ticker, definate before shot, i dont know how many chins there are in the photos... more chins than the chinese phonebook....

vonni thanks for saying mums are miracles, i think it when i see how big she is and realise it was all from me, that ALL those feeds are doing something and when she giggles and stuff it is awesome too, my friend accross the road said yesterday that if she didnt go back to work it would change who she was as a person and she wanted to be the best she could for her baby (9 weeks old) which made me feel i guess that if i dont work as well i am not the best i can be for jemima.... hmm each to their own and every mum and bub is different iguess

gen - i love calorie king, just going to see how many ham, cheese and toasted sangas i can get away with for lunch, problem being going to friends place for dinner so no idea what she is going to serve up.... so will probably just have one and some fruit ho hum.

06-09-2007, 06:14 AM
Crap I posted a big long reply and where'd it go??? grrrr. will do it again soon

06-09-2007, 09:09 AM
OK Here's my post (What I can remember of it)

Kel you guys look great. I like casual photos. Don't you worry about stripes either, do what you want. I LIKE stripes too. I have a cute pic of my bub that I'll post one day for you to see. I haven't got pro shots yet of my lot, but I am a bit of a shutter bug and have a very expensive digital cam (prezzy). Still learning to use it there are so many features. I have option of using different lense filters and a tripod to take pro shots so will try getting the crew together. .

Ani I like Emma but she can be a b*#ch. But she is pretty upfront with most and I'm like that so can be perceived as one too sometimes. If you do interview her, ask her from me please and prob thousands of others WHY she *****es about other people birching. Isn't that being a bit hypocritical? I reckon she's a blokes chick. Prob hangs aty the pub and can down the beers with the best of em. lol.

Now I did say in my old post I had 6 of the kids this weekend and had to go get them ready for bed. They were bathed, in warm jamies and slippers and ready for a hot milo before bed. Now they are all tucked up - fast asleep. (better be)

Gotta go put a log on the fire now. It's bloody cold here. Stupid weather doesn't know what it wants to do.

Have a great Sunday all

Vonni xxx

06-09-2007, 09:11 AM
shoot sorry about typos guys. Had a full day at work then at home. I think I better get to sleep too.

06-09-2007, 10:38 AM
Vonni, I pride myself on asking different questions to what BB evictees get asked by the other 43 million people they have to talk to. But just for you…

Good day for me today, even if I did work many, many hours. I still managed to walk for an hour - and fitted in another hour of vacuuming and mopping. And I drank 2 litres of water, and ate 1450 calories. This is my penance for being a pig for the first half of the week.

Off to bed in a minute for an early night, as I have another looooong day tomorrow. Ah the joy of excessively working on the weekend! But at least I'll have a couple of days off during the week to make up for it.


06-10-2007, 03:51 AM
Ani, thanks for the article, it was great! The only thing I'd take exception to was "...even while you're going through the process of change, treat yourself as though you are that thin, sexy beautiful woman..." - makes it sound like thin=sexy=beautiful. I know I am not trying to be, and don't want to be, "thin" per se. But very true and good points!

Are you going to say anything to Emma about her dad dying? I wonder how/when they'll tell her? If they tell her onstage, that's horrible. If they tell her before she's onstage, she'd be in shock a bit. But if they don't, someone could yell something out.. hmm, a dilemma.

Kel, if you read CK you will see that you are MEANT to eat back your exercise calories, especially to start with, until you see what your body needs. The calorie target I told you want meant to be NET, or after taking off your exercise calories. That's when I lose the most weight anyhow. Some people find they need to eat back 25-75% of the exercise cals for best losses... I say eat the most you can while still losing weight! Start eating back 100%, then if you don't lose enough, reduce the amount you eat. Although exercise usually makes me hungrier, so I always eat back 100%, but just reduce the net calories if I don't gain enough.. anyhow enough blabber from me.

I am an ICU nurse, just went back to clinical nursing after a "desk job" at a medical device company for about three years. Planning to move back to the US to work at a hospital there with some people I met while I was living there last year... still doing paperwork.

I had my step-niece's engagement party in Brisbane this weekend - barbeque, greasy breakfast and mudcake.. oops. Will have to hit the treadmill tonight and get back into it tomorrow, when I go to Melbourne. Tonight is unpacking, laundry and repacking for 8am flight tomorrow! Hope everyone's having/had a great long weekend!

06-10-2007, 08:32 AM
Emma poor Emma gone.... I'm sad I had a hate / love relationship with her. Hated when first went in then loved het later. Rebecca was love / hate, but then an acceptance of her once she stopped trying to hard.

Gen you sound busy busy busy this weekend. I'm exhausted thinking about it.

Today we went down to other halfs mums for her birthday. Was a bit strained as all the drama last week I don't know how much was said or if truth was said. Anyhow he is staying there tonight with his kids, dropping them to their mum and then coming home tomorrow. At the moment he is sitting in the hospital trying to get his asthma sorted out. It's been bad for a couple of weeks but the past 2 days real bad. I tried getting him to the hospital but he wouldnt. Kinda piss#s me off that he took no notice of me but when his mum suggested it.........

Gen I have a question.... Or anyone else here with advice???? He saw a naturopath about 4 weeks ago and apparently she is also a counsellor. I don't know what was said and I told him I am a bit upset that he can't share things with me, as a relationship is supposed to be total trust and honesty with each other and share problems. Anyhow (I got off track) she prescribed him 18 tablets a day vitamins and minerals and calming herbs. Since all this he has been distant and gone from being totally emotionally and physically dependant on me and even overbearing in his love to being the complete opposite. He has gotten very unfeeling and a not care anymore attitude. In my opinion it is either the drugs or what was said that has made him this way. This lady is also a friend of his mums and her word is "law". He takes offence if I ask him anything about his feelings and if his tablets are affecting his asthma. He just gets defensive and says NO he asked her that and she said no. Almost like he sees it as an attack on his mother. Now correct me if I am wrong but people can react to ANYTHING can't they? Some people react to one thing while it doesn't affect another person? Second opinion? I also don't think he should see her as a counsellor because of the conflict of interest being a friend. Isn't that unethical or something? His mum talks about us in general conversation therefore I think the lady is not perceiving the true things about him, me or us.

Anyhow I should go. Sry to prattle but Gen I know yr an ICU but a nurse comes in contact with many people and many things. so....

Anyone else who wants to comment feel free...


06-10-2007, 10:02 AM
First off, I don't know of any natural supplements that cause you to become distant, so I'd say it's whatever she said. BUT having said that, there is EVERY possibility that something he is taking is exacerbating his asthma - asthma in particular, is very sensitive to multiple medications. He should not be needing to go to the hospital to get this sorted out - they treat emergencies, but he needs a written asthma management and PREVENTION plan - this should come from either his GP or a respiratory physician. He should have sufficient preventative medication and control that he has very rare "attacks", and usually these only with exertion, allergy or extreme changes in environment, not routinely with day to day life.

It's a difficult situation if he takes questioning about the naturopath as criticism of his mum, so I feel for you. What treatment did he go to her for, exactly? Is she qualified as a counsellor, or just a stickybeak..? Tehcnically a counsellor should just listen rather than giving "advice" - maybe talking about it just made him withdraw? I wouldn't criticise - can you approach it to him that your relationship seems to be going downhill, and you'd really like to seek couple counselling together to see if you can work on it? Find a NEUTRAL counsellor with proper qualifications, and see how it goes?

I know from my experience, having a partner ignore you or be distant is very difficult, and much worse than having fights. It's very lonely laying next to someone and feeling miles away from them. Hope things improve for you :hug:

06-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Page 10 and this is my first entry in this new thread!

Firstly, sorry about the disappearing act - I'm not going to make excuses, I just had to take some pressure off myself and this was the only area in my life where I felt I had the control to do that. :(

Now lets forget about all that! I am back!!! :lol:

Let me introduce myself...

My name is Lindor. I started this battle back in January 2006 at 112kg and managed to lose 30kgs in the first 10 months!! Since then I have been on a massive plateau (can I still use that as an excuse???). Ok, ok, I fell off the wagon BIG TIME!!! At least I can say I have only gained a few kilos since it stopped coming off. But, as of today, that is all going to change...this last 25kg IS COMING OFF!!!

This morning I weighed in at 86.5kg!

Last week I attempted to make some positive changes to get back up and going again with regard to losing far walking to work four days a week is the only thing that has, and I think will, stick.

I am having huge issues with food again!!! I need to re-educate myself in portion control!!! I have been eating like a pig without a care in the world!! My attempts in cutting back were pretty weak last week, so I am hoping having to justify myself to you again might give me that little bit of mental strength that I need.

I still have to catch up on everything that has been going down with you lot and I'll do that very soon. I hope you are all fit and well? I have however, noticed a couple of new faces, so welcome to you!!

Anyway, as I am walking to work now, I have less time for sitting here in the mornings so I'll make the time to post in the evenings from now. Actually I think that might serve as a great distraction as it is after work that I start eating everything I can lay my hands on!! :lol:

Having said that...I must strap my walking shoes on and make a move!

Have a good day all!!!

06-10-2007, 07:53 PM
I know you hate it when people make a fuss Lindor, so all I want to say is YAY :carrot: - You just made my day, my friend.

I lost 0.3kg this week, and weighed in at 87.1kg, and I'm happy about that.

Vonni I would really like to comment, but my last relationship ended after a counsellor's 'helpful intervention with my ex', and I couldn't say anything objective about it. That wouldn't help you - but please know I am thinking of you :hug:

Gen I take your point about that part of my article. I have to confess to being a little naughty with it - I wrote it for a largely feminist readership, and I wanted to stir things up a wee bit. I fully agree with your sentiments; I just took my naughty pills before writing that one ;)

Where is everyone? Kylie, LittleKiwi, RennySue, MaryL - who have I missed? And where are you all?


06-10-2007, 07:57 PM
Welcome back Lindor. :grouphug: We missed you, and glad you found us again. I won't make a fuss, yr back thats great, lets pretend u were on a holiday hehee.

Gen thanks for advice. I did approach him about it but..... He initially went to Dr for feeling depressed. Dr prescribed antidepressants but his mum said no go to Marg the naturopath before you take the Drs ones. Its prob just an imbalance in yr bodys minerals. So off he went and you know the rest of the story....

I'll PM you the "advice" she wrote down on the bottom of his medication chart.

And one tab he is on is Nevaton. Now I googled the main ingredients.... Skullcap, St Johns wort, Damiana. Of 2 it says no alchohol, tea coffee or tobacco. He drinks tea n coffee and has a large beer most nights. Now it said that drinking those can cause excessive sedation with them. Side effect of skullcap fatigue confusion irregular pulse in some people. Damiana I know is thought to be an qphrodesiac... well nope lmao he went from one extreme to the other. From always wanting to never or rarely wanting. Now it says in some cases it has been known to irritate the genitourinary system. Maybe this is whats happened?

I think the lady is wrong in telling him there are NO side effects and are perfectly safe. In skullcap and damiana they both said not many studies have been done and they have not set a maximum safe dose. So..... But as I said before if I approach it purely out of concern he sees it as an attack on his mothers beliefs and thinks I am being just *****y. Its not that at all but he doesn't get it.... Is it just men that don't get it? Gosh, if we ever split up I am never going there again. Might join my sisters side of the love game.

Anyhow. Sry to annoy you. Going now to try and eat brekky. I'm tired and hungry. Had a baby with reflux last night (at 14mths) grrrr. and she is cranky chops this morning.

Vonni xx

06-10-2007, 08:23 PM
Vonni you might want to google St John's Wort too - one of the side effects of it can be depression. People underestimate it as a 'harmless drug', and I know it's a definite no-no for anyone taking anti-depressants/anti-psychotics etc.

I don't have any objections to alternative medicine/therapists, but my experience with naturopaths has been that they try and sell you so much crap. I went to one who tried to sell me over $200 worth of pills and potions - and she got shirty when I told her that was outrageous. I found that eating five veges and two fruits did exactly the same thing :dizzy:

As for the counsellor thing, the naturopath is SO caught up in a conflict of interest it's not funny. Makes me angry just thinking about it.

Is your sister on my side of the fence? That's a very sad thing to say about 'joining' her. Are you really that worried about your relationship? Sit that man down Vonni, and remind him of all the wonderful things he has in his life - you, the kids, your home, your family and social circles… and tell him not to take those precious things for granted.

Tell him you need to find out, to discover the things that make the two of you so wonderful together. If that means couples counselling - do it. If it means getting the kids looked after, and going off somewhere together for a weekend, do it. Please don't sit back and let a mother and a pseudo-counsellor become the voices he listens to - you're worth much, much more than that :hug:

Would you believe I started this post just to say Google and St John's Wort?
Motor mouth me…

06-10-2007, 09:04 PM
I've been so absorbed in my dillemas that I forgot today is weigh in day.

Well done Ani on ye weight loss. You seem to have begun the next leg of yr journey after the hurdle.

I've put on a more than a kilo. George is due for a visit anyday now, but I will not use that as an excuse. I don't have an excuse.

I ate nothing but sh*t all week. 2 lots of takeaway, a block of cadburys choc (hidden so noone else could have any) A couple of packets of chips. Prob more crap that I have failed to mention because to tell the truth... I simply don't KNOW what I have eaten this week. It's been a blur. Irregular meal times and skipping meals and no exercise hasn't helped either.

I would like to say that this week I am going to jump back on the wagon, but I know its a lie. But over this next week I will set myself some life changes.

I might just start by writing down the food I eat this week. Eat no chocolate and go for a walk at least once.

Next week I will walk twice. And eat no chips.

When I first started on this journey in Feb I planned a monthly meal calendar and stuck to it. It helped the house run smoother and I think it helped me too as I didn't just "grab" at anything to cook or takeaway because I knew when I went shopping what I was shopping for. I haven't done that in a couple of months. So next week is shopping week and thats all about to change.


06-10-2007, 09:14 PM
I had my comp on this page for a while without refreshing and only just saw yr post Ani :hug: Thanks!

I agree with the cost of them. His added up to a hundred or more but his mum paid for them.

He just needs to eat less butter and more fruit. He eats good vege and meat, I cook most every night and cook at least 4 veges. He eats no fruit, drinks no water and has a 500gm tub of butter a week to himself. (The rest of us marg).

You know when I was breastfeeding my bub and she wasnt gaining weight and I was sore, his mum went to this lady and she prescribed and sold to me 4 different tabs. I paid over $60 and was taking 20 tablets a day. Taking all these and remembering to take them ruled my day every day. And you know what? I think they did not ONE bit of good at all. I still had sore tits (scuse me) and she still wasnt gaining weight and still wasnt sleeping. She went on the bottle, I stopped feeding and we all got happy and on with our lives.

When thjey rule your life is when yr in trouble.

As for the antidepressants the Dr prescribed? He didn't even get the script filled. He's trying these tabs instead. Mind you they are 5 times more expensive and on a 12 hr week job for me and a traineeship for him thats a lot of money we just don't have to spare.

Maybe if I suggest to him we start having a nice walk together in the afternoon and cuddles by the fire (promise him that) he will try and not take tablets and see if that helps by just "being" together!

06-11-2007, 12:31 AM
Hmm.. how to put this...? First off, how old is this man? Why is he listening to his mummy instead of his partner? I understand that if he's depressed, he is probably feeling lost and indecisive and doesn't know what to do, but really, he's surely old enough to deal with this as a couple, isn't he?

SAMe is a MUCH better, and more proven natural supplement for depression. I would recommend it over St John's Wort any day - SJW has a LOT of interactions with both other supplements and medications, as well as adverse side effects. Never heard of the other stuff. I actually plan to transition from pharmaceutical antidepressants to SAMe myself soon, the evidence is so promising.

I can't believe he eats half a KILO of butter in one week! How!!??? Does he just eat spponfuls of it??? Icck!!!

Can you maybe suggest walking together? Exercise is proven to make a huge difference to depression, and I know I've found it immensely helpful to how I felt. Might also give you both some time to get away and talk to each other?

06-11-2007, 01:17 AM
He lathers it on his bread like cheese. On his potatoes. He eats bread with meals and mops up any juices by cutting a hunk of butter putting it on the bread 1st. Yet he is skinny and weighs 72kg. Though I tell him just because he is skinny doesn't mean he is safe from harm. Told him he needs his cholestrol checked.

he's 34. He was an insecure child and dorky so got picked on therefore pandered to. Me???? I'm the opposite if my kids are hurt I say "yr still breathing??? Fine your right off u go" Or if picked on I deal with the problem nip it in the bud and dont dwell on it.


06-11-2007, 05:17 AM
Hmm... well having different styles of dealing with conflict can be difficult - maybe he should go back to the GP and get a referral for psychologist? Can be bulk-billed with a GP's care plan. He may need individual cognitive behavioural therapy so he can learn to deal with negative thoughts and conflict resolution himself, then you could also do couples therapy.

Anyhow, hope things settle down :)

06-11-2007, 07:42 PM
Hi ladies

Today I get to go and see my "witch doctor" which I'm really looking forward to. He's the one who recommended that I go on Citalopram and for the first time in years, I am feeling happy.

Went to the gym last night and did my weights programme for the first time in about 6-8 weeks. I really need to get into a proper routine with the gym. Unfortunately I won't be going tonight which is not a good start to the week but I'll just have to make sure I go tomorrow.

Getting up in the mornings is so hard at the moment - yesterday was -5 degrees :fr: and winter is just beginning. I don't like it!

:twirly: :twirly: :twirly:

06-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Here here I hate the cold. I shiver all winter.

06-11-2007, 08:31 PM
I didn't feel the cold at all last winter (or for quite a few winters before), but this year I'm freezing. The only thing I can put it down to is having lost some weight.

Another good day for me yesterday - met all my goals and am still feeling very motivated. I have someone coming around to look at the house today who is interested in sharing. My enthusiasm for that is less than zero - I don't have a good feeling about this woman after talking to her on the phone.

Anyway, better go for my walk so I can come back and make a token effort at tidying up before she gets here.


06-12-2007, 12:38 AM
Ugh Ani I know the feeling - I MUCH prefer to live alone, and really enjoy my own space. But when I move back to the US I think I should share, so I have some built-in friends - dreading it!!

06-12-2007, 06:23 AM
Ani go with yr gut. It's usually right. They could be just coming for a stickybeak and to case the place.

I would arrange a meeting first away from the home to see if you may get along. Meet several people this way. Then narrow it down to the people whom you took to and then arrange for them to inspect your place.


06-12-2007, 08:01 AM
I feel like such a loser.... i was wondering where everyone was... i gotta figure out this subscription thing, i think i read it in the email and then think i will check whateva else is there later and then forget and then FORGET for 2 pages! ho hum

Vonni - i totally agree with what ani said on page 10 that you have to sit your man down and tell him what you are thinking, make sure you both know why you are together, life is too short not to and what have you got to lose?

Gen - finding the idea of eating back what i burn off really weird so havent really tried that this week.... waiting to see what happens on thursday morning weigh in, i think i need a loss this week after last week.... i am eating close to gross calories though.....

ani - definately go with your gut when it comes to sharing your house once they are there it can be hard to get rid of people.....

06-12-2007, 07:55 PM
Cold again today and my car was totally frozen over this morning :halfempty I think the worst thing is that summer this year was so crap so we didn't even get any decent heat before this cold snap.

No exercise yesterday, had a couple of appointments then went to the supermarket and home to sit in front of the heater. Some advise ladies: don't go to the supermarket without a list when you've got your period!!! I spent $110 on god only knows what and now have hardly any money left till next payday. Yikes!

No gym tonight either as I've agreed to babysit. I was out on Saturday night with the friend I'm sitting for and the night ended on a really bad note. We were in Burger King (naughty!!) and she made some really racist comments about the Asian people working there.

I was so mad and told her just what I thought of it on Monday and she said that she had no recollection at all of saying anything. I know that she has an alcohol problem but I really don't think she was that drunk when she said it.

So now I'm trying to decide whether I can still be friends with her. The things she said were pretty racist and that's pretty much a deal breaker with me. It'll be an interesting night.

06-12-2007, 09:03 PM
Little Kiwi Ouch... Ouch ouch. I don't envy you tonight. Let us know how you go. You know, even if she cant remember... she should still have apologised to you for making you feel so uncomfortable.


06-12-2007, 09:58 PM
:D It Moved!!!!!! It Moved!!!!! My Ticker Moved!!!
Gone down to 79.5kgs:carrot: :carrot: :carrot:
Sorry I have been away for so long, have been really busy with family and stuff. will come back in later and catch up with everyone.

06-13-2007, 01:23 AM
Yeah Mary!! that is awesome under 80kg!! do you get some kind of reward for that??

Little Kiwi - you need to ask yourself if the friendship is 'worth it' and maybe talk to your friend about why she said what she said perhaps help her to not say things like that anymore? perhaps she didnt realise what she was saying and that it could offend?? bit weird though if she doesnt even remember saying it....

me - tomorrow is first weigh in since properly counting calories.... i am so so nervous.... i got hubby to measure me sunday night so if not weight change i will check measurements too.... so that i am not so focused on the scales..... even if it is not a 'big' loss any loss will be ok.... cant wait til i am under 90kg! Hopefully tomorrow we have a dancing carrot party:dizzy:

06-13-2007, 05:55 AM
Yayyyy Mary. :dance: Way to go! Keep on keepin on


06-13-2007, 06:06 PM
I got accepted I got accepted.:cb: :cb: :cb:

I got online at 1am this moring to check the QTAC site for June offer round and I have been accepted into nursing guys..... Heres to some long years studying :dizzy: but for a reward of a great career And the ability to be somebody and help our community


06-13-2007, 08:31 PM
Woo Hoo Vonni - how EXCITING :).

I'm having a pretty good week, working at meeting my goals and busy at work.

I've set myself the goal of getting somewhere around 82-83kg by the end of winter, and I made myself a promise that I am going to commit to reaching that goal. It means I have to keep losing around 0.4 - 0.5kg/week over winter.

I'm being very disciplined with counting my calories and making sure I walk most days, and my motivation is pretty good at the moment.

By this time next year I should be really close to my goal - that means I had better start saving some money, because I've decided on my 'reward'. When I get to 70kg I'm going on a walking tour in Italy.

Anyway, must get on with it. Have a great day everyone.


06-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Yeah Vonni, that is amazing are you going to be studying full time??!! wow congratulations!

Ani - walking tour of italy would be amazing, hubby and i did the top part of italy as part of a contiki tour and italy is one of the places we would go back to in a heartbeat, so amazing so much to see (so many dodgy souviners) i would still love to go and do the bottom half of italy and greece and and and and.... ho hum

me me me me me - i lost 1kg!!!! my scales are dodgy though... they are digital and when first hopped on they said i was 90.5kg and then i hopped again about 30 mins later and they said 91kg, hubby said i can go with first weigh in (love that guy) and then he hid the scales, he is six foot four and i have no idea where he put them as i wanted to see what they said now as i always used to go with best of three but now it is first weigh in and that is that so here is the dancing carrot party i wished for last week..:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:
i understand that some of the weight lost will be fluid etc but as i was pretty good with the water the last couple of weeks i think i can honestly hope for another loss next week.... thanks gen for the calorie info it really honestly is what did it.... being more accountable and being able to SEE what damage my cravings do made a huge difference

06-13-2007, 09:26 PM
Kel I would take your first reading. Your body weight can change heaps throughout the day, after you've eaten etc. As long as you weigh yourself at the same time each week, you'll get a good idea of how you're going.

I always weigh myself first thing in the morning - it's usually when I'm at my lowest.

Congratulations on dropping a kilo! YAY!!!

06-13-2007, 09:43 PM
All this weight loss news and new career prospect news is awesome! Congrats guys :cp:

Babysat for my friend last night. We talked about what she said, she apologised for offending me but still can't remember saying anything. I accepted her apology but her comments have damaged our friendship regardless and only time will tell how it all pans out.

Once again here in Christchurch, it is FREEZING. Getting to the gym in this weather is so hard, all I want to do is get home and pump up the heating. However, I really must go tonight as I haven't been since Monday.

My sister gave me the munchies after telling me that she's been having porridge for breakfast recently with pieces of dried apricot and toasted coconut and sliced almonds. I made up a batch for dessert last night and it was so delicious. Just have to make sure not to add too much golden syrup to it :o

06-13-2007, 10:52 PM
Yum yum what you had to eat sounds yum littlekiwi.

WTG Ani on yr reward goal. I know you will get there.

Kel that is amazing. Congrats on yr loss. You know when people say they've had a loss it's usually a morbid thing. lol. not here...

Maybe I need to count. I know I said I'll be good this week but..... At least one thing. I haven't had any chocolate. And i make sure my cheezels are not eaten all at once, the packet lasts me all week now :D

Have to fly. Knitting to do, washing to do and dishes to do. Then get ready for work.

Oh yeah, Kel the course is classed as full time and most of it is done at home though, so I really need to be diciplined in my study habits. I will be drawing up a study plan in the next few weeks when I see my work load.

One week each semester I have to be on campus full time, and one day a week via videolink through the local TAFE. 2 weeks 1st semester fulltime clinical placement and 4 weeks the following 2 semesters. After that, it's anybodys guess, but at least I have 3 to work through. Going to family daycare to interview care providers next week. The long day care centres I need to have her in permanent days, yet I only have one set day a week. The other times studying or working full time will have to be family day care so I may as well start with that. I'm sad, she is so little :( But it will all be for the best


06-14-2007, 03:15 PM
MY GOD!!!!!!! You ladies can talk. It's hard to catch up with everything you are doing.You all seem so busy.Or maybe I am here too early in the morning to take it all in. I will come back later today and read through, if I can kick the the kids off this puter.
Little kiwi, stop sending your weather up here my feet are flipping frezzing.

06-14-2007, 05:44 PM
Gah, I didn't go to the gym yesterday! I finished work at 5:30 instead of 5 and by then it was pitch black outside and I just couldn't muster the strength to go.

Hope you are all doing better than me!

06-14-2007, 09:31 PM
Another good day for me. I walked for an hour, ate 1650 calories and drank 2 litres of water. Hopefully I can do it again today.

Got another busy day at work, but very few plans for the weekend. Just the usual domestics and hopefully a bit of gardening.

LittleKiwi do you walk to the gym? It's so hard to get motivated to exercise when it's that cold, isn't it. Someone suggested I go swimming the other day - pfft! When it's 5ºC outside? I think not!


06-14-2007, 11:57 PM
yeah was -1 here the other day. bugger that for a joke. I aint walkin at that time in the morning for nothing. I am a cold fish and cant stand the cold. Matter of fact I hole up like a hermit in winter. Perhaps I should use that time to do indoor exercises and in summer show off a brand new me??


06-15-2007, 06:55 AM
I'm here! I've been stupidly busy at work - a shift shorter than 9 hours is a treat! Making healthier choices, but still dropping the bass after lunch.

I'm so proud of you girls - everyone seems to be in such awesome moods. (mostly).

Catch up soon


06-15-2007, 09:30 AM
if you go to the gym little kiwi wouldnt you get warm then? I'm lucky my gym used to be accross the road (for real it takes me longer to get to the front door at shopping centres from the carparks then it used to take me to get to the gym) then the gym closed and i bought one of their eliptical trainers and it is out the back now, however last week i only got to go on it twice, once was only 13mins the other time was 20mins though... just depends what Jemima is up to... walking works for us but we are lucky that we can go for a walk at 3 or 4 in the afternoon...
i do live in brisbane though so most likely dont know the meaning of cold...

if i fail at this 'dieting' thing it will be the fault of M&Ms i suck at resisting them... but always seem to work them in to my calories for the day so I guess that is "OK" but still not a cool habit to get into.

Dont think I drank enough water today it was at least 1.25L though...

what happened to the June challenge??? what was it again??? hehehehe I did yoga today Jemima even did a bit she didnt sleep or cry through all of it just wanted a feed when they were doing "the grand old duke of york" and then slept so i could do mummy yoga and slept through the baby dancing.... oh well next tuesday more baby yoga somewhere different and different time so we will see how that goes... yesterday i went for a walk and the day before, I think i have exercised everyday in june.... we should add to the challenge that we drink 2L of water as well.....

hubby is hovering so I think that means it is time for me to go.....
have a great weekend.... i am craving hungry jacks dont know why.....

06-15-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm not doing very well with keeping up with you lot am I? Sorry :(

Anyway, just wanted to check in and let you know I am still struggling to get back on the wagon...although I'd have much rather be checking in to say I am doing fantastically and I can see all the weight falling off already!!!

I have only managed to stick solidly to my walking this week...yup all four days of it!

Not doing at all well with the is all or nothing when it comes to putting food into my mouth! I can't seem to settle with a 'portion'. And I get sooo p*ssed off with myself afterwards! But, it is that anger and that bloated feeling afterward that motivates me to walk to work the next morning!

Water intake?? :lol: Zilch!!! Bugger it, I am back on the diet coke too!!

I've really let myself fall right off the wagon haven't I?

So, how do I get back on again???

Kylie, good to see you drop by! How is it all going? Weight loss, life etc?

And LittleKiwi...have you tried doing some exercises at home on those days you don't get to the gym? I used to do step-ups in front of the TV - no special equipment, just my three step ladder. Ani also got me onto resistance band exercises, they are not too expensive to purchase and surprisingly do make for a good workout! What about a quick walk around the block before getting into the car to come home from work? I don't have a gym where I live so I have had to use these methods. Worth thinking about???

I had just one thing planned for the weekend and that was to make at least one post here...mission accomplished (although I will try for more) :lol:

Now to find my book and kick back on the couch!

Have a good one ladies :)

06-16-2007, 10:38 AM
Hey girls

to answer Lindor - weight loss...what is that? :P I am too afraid to jump on the scale now. I would be heartbroken to see it go back up above 90kg. I am choosing better food, but like I said, after lunch iced coffee and chocolate bars on special at work are doing damage! I made some killer pumpkin soup, and I'm eating that for lunch most days. Not much water, but I'm missing that, so I'll get back into it.

Life is rolling along smoothly. he drugs are doing wonderful things - I am human again. bf is so relieved -he says I'm 'back', and I am too. I dropped out of uni, but not permanently. I feel bad saying that, knowing how hard some of you have struggled to get in. I initially dropped two subjects, to take the pressure off, but ended up dropping out of the other two. I will have them removed from my record on medical grounds.

I am having trouble with my career decision too. I took up my management/international studies degrees to make myself more appealing to the army recruiters. (looong story). Anyway, I am now quite sure that business isn't my thing. I would love to get involved in international aid work, but I'm not sure where, or how. I know that I'm not happy about the state of the world, and I want to help make good things happen. But after that, its a grey area.

On a whim, bf and I are looking at flats in Perth. It sounds so lovely over there, and I have family there, in Freo. Ani, where are the good places? It probably wont eventuate, but it's nice to dream for a bit.

So that's me for now. Fairly stable, weight-wise and emotionally. Only problem is that I haven't been going to the gym. at all. for months. Its such a waste of money - I need to get back to it. I need some encouragement though.

06-16-2007, 09:14 PM
Hey Kylie

Why don't you have a look at the Medecines Sans Frontiers website? It's one of the best International Aid agencies in the world, and you might get an idea of the kind of qualifications you'll need. They, and other agencies, love doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers - and it helps if you speak another language.

Another excellent place to look is Volunteers Abroad.

Places in Perth are all expensive, but anywhere around Freo - Hilton, Murdoch, Bicton, Coolbellup, East Perth… you might pick something good up reasonably cheap.

Lindor what can we do to help you? What about coming up with a food plan or something, or counting calories? I know they are fairly boring - but if you get the 'essentials' sorted out, maybe the motivation will follow.

Do you have a short-term goal in mind for weight loss? Something like 5kg? I find that without a goal, and a plan for getting there I tend to get a bit lost. I don't think Diet Coke is that bad is it? I read somewhere that it may increase your cravings for sweet foods, but on its own it's OK.

I've been a bit 'off-plan' the last few days. I'm not sure why either - but I've eaten above my calorie limit, and I'm not looking forward to getting on the scales tomorrow.

I think part of my sabotage is a bit of a 'food panic'. I don't have any money at the moment, and my food supplies are running low. It's almost like I'm panicking that I'm going to run out of food - well it's the only thing I can put it down to anyway.

Hopefully people will pay me this week, and I'll be able to go mad in the stupidmarket.

Anyway, must go for my walk, and try to have a productive day today… or at the very least not do any more calorie damage to my week.


06-17-2007, 02:05 AM
I have been thinking all day about what to say in regards to motivation to lose weight. I have been thinking that if you ask for motivation you must really want to lose weight..... but ...... no one else can do it for you......
YOU have to make a commitment for YOURSELF to just do it.
And definately have to be ready for it to take ages..... have to be able to see the light LONG TERM, minigoals definately help but even just knowing that the Final goal is a long way away but IS coming helped me. I worked out that if I lost 500grams a week (which is not that unachievable for anyone exercising and trying to eat well) then i would be at goal weight by 28 January 2008 that is forever away, especially when none of my clothes fit me now but it is coming I know that January 2008 will get here and when it does i will be a size 12/14 and not a size 16/18.
To reach that goal sooner I have to work harder, when I reach that goal it is not over, but weightloss will not be a focus of my life... food will not be an issue I will know what my body needs and when and how I can treat it, and what to do when I abuse my body to keep it healthy.

Calorieking is helping me at the moment, I can now SEE what damage certain portion sizes and foods do to my daily calorie intake and that my body doesnt need as much as I was giving it, and that it all adds up! Having something to aim for each day and being accountable to myself is helping me.... would that help you??? Be accountable, you are the one that puts it in your mouth you are the one that wears it on your hips unless YOU are the one that works it off.... if you are not going to work it off dont eat it, if you want to eat it, EAT IT but then dont eat something else......
for example this weekend I have had KFC and bacon and eggs but am still eating within my calorie allowance! I lost weight last week and I was not hungry!!!

I get myself drinking water pretending in my mind it helps flush the fat out.... know it is not entirely true but it helps.....

the only other thing that has gotten me back on the wagon BIGTIME this month is this little statement....

"If hunger is not the question....... then eating is NOT the answer"

so everytime I have been honest with myself and know I am not hungry.... i just grab a bottle of water and walk out of the kitchen to find something to do and get into that water before I have a chance to think about all the yummy things in the kitchen I want but dont need....

06-17-2007, 06:25 AM
I've abandoned keeping my food diary while I'm on holidays - mum keeps cooking things I don't know what she put in it, so it was a bit of guess work anyhow. Well, that's my excuse. Also been craving (and eating!) chocolate, due to the monthly evil goblins. Never mind. I have been walking every day, and have done some skipping and some resistance band workouts. Well, one. Heh. I MISS my training and training buddies though, and it's bloody COLD in Melbourne! Also have realised moving back with the parents for the next few months is NOT going to be viable - they annoy me too much, and I revert to being a sulky, sullen teenager. I hate it, but I can't seem to stop it.. sigh.

Kylie, I'm so glad you feel better!! I found that I only realised how bad I'd been, once I started feeling better! Very glad you can take a break from uni and reassess your goals - once you're thinking better, it's much easier to realise what was contributing to you feeling like crap. I realised when I left my job that it's just not worth being miserable. I have to say, volunteering in any capacity is great for making you feel good about yourself, and there are tons of things you can do as a volunteer, even without formal qualifications. Could you defer for a while to do that? Maybe ask at uni about opportunities for volunteering work? Do try to make time for exercise, it's the other thing that made me feel a thousand percent better.

I won't weigh in til I get home next week, because Mum's scales weigh differently than mine and I'll get excited or depressed, depending on how they come out! I'll just try not to do TOO much damage on holidays, and remember that food isn't the same as fun. I did finish my uni paper, although it was closer to 4000 than 3000 words, so that's a relief. No more papers for at least 8 weeks, and hopefully I won't have the useless lecturer next semester.

Congrats Vonni on getting into nursing!! I do think it's just such a versatile career. Yes, there are definitely negatives, and it's not paid as well as it should be, but it's so rewarding and it's something you become, rather than something you do. Every nurse I know IS a nurse, it's not the job they do but who they are. There are so many opportunities to go into any area. Let me know if you need any help, I was a tutor at uni, and I *love* anatomy & physiology haha.

06-17-2007, 06:35 AM
"If hunger is not the question....... then eating is NOT the answer"

Good point Kel.

Well this weekend was ok. Worked hard on Sat as usual. Today went to the Bramble Patch for BF birthday. Had his mum n dad and suprised him with a friend from Brisbane who drove out for the day with his girlfriend.

We never had an argument all weekend.

The 2 older kids got back from their fathers at 5.30. They are feral everytime so I guess i better go get them into quiet mode.
Kylie you haven't "dopped out" of uni. You have taken a break from yr studies. Not the same. You have intentions of continueing study, even if u
have a change.

Lindor it's so good to see u back here. I've fallen off the wagon he past few weeks to, have eaten a bit.....a LOT of crap and no water or walks.

I have a stepladder... how do u do yr stepups?? Maybe I can do that.


06-17-2007, 06:41 AM
Just saw yr post Gen... trust me, I'll sing out if I have a question. Thanks heaps. My close friends all say I'll make a good nurse because I have a caring nature yet no nonsense attitude to certain things. I love to help people as much as possible. But I am not backward in coming forward and I am afraid that if I don't agree with the way something is being handled I will step on toes. But my moral standards are high and it will only be in the patients best interests.

I am thinking of applying to the Mater in brisbane when I graduate. They have an excellent post grad program where they employ you and also take you further. They also have an on site child care centre for staff.

I think eventually I would like to get into palliative care. It holds a special place in my heart, and some people have noone, the least I can do is help people be comfortable while giving them also a 'friend'

06-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Vonni, don't be misled - caring is important, but the most important thing in a nurse is aptitude in health sciences, and common sense. It's a profession like any other, although nurses are their own worst enemy in perpetuating this "caring" myth, which keeps nursing downtrodden and poorly paid. Don't do it for love, do it for a career!

Phew. Glad I got that out. :)

06-17-2007, 06:35 PM
Hi ladies

Well, the truth about me and my gym is that if I don't go, it's 100% pure laziness. My gym is about a 1 minute walk from my office so it's not like I'm going out of my way to get there. I just start thinking about my couch and my heat pump and my tv and the thought of veging out gets the better of me.

However!! I did much better over the weekend. Saturday I went for a long walk with a friend and her dog and yesterday I got up and went to the gym for about an hour.

This week my aim is to do the following:
Monday: 40 minutes cardio
Tuesday: 20 minutes cardio, circuit based weights programme
Wednesday: 40 minutes cardio
Thursday: 20 minutes cardio, weights programme

I'm also starting up my star chart again. It's just like what people do for their kids good behaviour, I get a star each time I go to the gym. I don't have a reward or anything at the end but it's a great way to see how active I'm being. When I used to do it, I would sometimes go to the gym just so that I could get another star up - I hate seeing an empty chart!

Keep on keeping on ladies :twirly: :twirly: :twirly:

06-17-2007, 08:44 PM
For some reason I sabotaged myself over the last three days, and as a result I only lost 0.1kg this week - my fault entirely.

But that's past history and I can't change it, so I am going to make a big effort this week to get back on track. Today I'm going to try and walk for an hour, eat no more than 1650 calories - and drink some water!

And I'll try not to beat myself up for the last few days.


06-17-2007, 10:13 PM

Remember the recommendation to drink at least eight, 8-ounce glasses of water per day? The new guidelines do not give a set amount of water to consume on a daily basis, but state that Americans get enough fluids just by using thirst as their guide. While water is a good choice for staying hydrated, other beverage choices such as juice, milk, coffee, tea and soda also count toward your daily fluid intake.

It used to be thought that beverages that contained caffeine (like coffee, tea or sodas) did not contribute to a person's daily fluid intake of liquids, but the panel argues that these beverages contribute just as much to the daily fluid intake as non-caffeinated options. About 80 percent of people's total fluid intake comes from drinking water and other beverages, and the other 20 percent comes from food. That's right - water found in food contributes to our total daily water consumption, too.

Wow, so that means I can drink lots of teas and coffees :)

Hi guys. Thx Gen, yes it's for a career too, don't panic. Nursing can take me anywhere I want to go. And there are so many opportunities. Mostly in major hospitals and my BF and I want a change in the next few years and this is a good way to help it happen. He will be qualified in his career around the same time.

One city hospital that I have researched (among many) has a great graduate employment program. Child care on site, and if to many kids they get another carer rather than turn the child away. Health care benefits, great incentives and ongoing training that count towards other degrees etc... I know you prob know all this but. lol.

No loss for me this week. I'll leave it at that.

Vonni xxx

06-17-2007, 10:18 PM
:fr: MMMM Well I hope everyone behaved themselves on the weekend. Unlike me, who tied one on over the weekend, woke up feeling like some one had pooped in my mouth and some bugger was following me around all day with a jack hammer. Everything ached inculing my teeth (and they are false) lol. Not going anywhere near the scales , I can feel all the water weight in my hands.
I will really have to pull finger this week at the gym:fr:
Going back to writing down everything I eat again, that sort of went out the window as well.
:bravo: To all you lovely people that lost this week. I will have to catch up.
As a punishment for pigging out. I have set myself a task of sampooing the carpet and couches.
Anyone ever tried vodka and Bundaberg diet ginger beer?
It's really quite nice lol:devil:

06-18-2007, 06:23 AM
Vodka and Ginger beer.. to shampoo the carpet & couches? Muahaa... nah, hAven't tried that. I DO need to get the old britex machine from coles soon though, to try and get rid of the red cordial I spilled on my rental carpet..oops. I would be more concerned if the carpet wasn't completely feral and requiring replacing anyhow.

It's bloody cold in Melbourne.. I'm only managing taking the dogs for a walk every day so far, and a few skipping/band sessions. I really will have to get a trainer or a gym when I move back down here, the outside thing won't fly in winter here.

06-18-2007, 06:34 AM
Because I don't know where the hours in my day go, this is just a quicky!

After eating within 1500cals on both Saturday and Sunday, drinking 1.25L water both days, 20mins of step-ups both days and 20mins of resistance band exercises on both days also, I have managed to weigh in this morning 0.4kg lighter than last week! Kinda feel ripped off with that, but then if I consider the rest of last week I should be bloody grateful I haven't gained 4kgs!!! :lol:

Today, I am feeling very determined!!! I walked to work this morning (20mins) and home again this afternoon (20min). I walked to the post office on my lunch break (10mins) and I have done 20mins of step-ups this afternoon also. So far I have eaten good (apart from about 8 snakes!) and drunk about 1L of water too :) Now if I was to include the 600ml diet coke and the two cups of coffee I'd be getting close to my required 'fluid' intake right Vonni?? :p

Alright, I gotta run again!!!

I need to stop and catch up with everything here again, I feel like a stranger here!!!

Oh and Vonni, step-ups are simple...step up onto the first step of the ladder and step down again and continue to repeat that :p

Edit: Been meaning to ask Ani...what was the potential flat mate like?

06-18-2007, 07:06 AM
Hi There
I just discovered this community today and thought I would join. I was wondering if anyone has had periods where they felt a little overwhelmed by the amount of weight they had to lose?
Sometimes I think I will never do it, I need to lose a whole person.

06-18-2007, 08:17 AM
Hey Kris - WELCOME!

I think everyone here has felt overwhelmed at some point or another. I know when I first started out (last August), I jumped on the scales and said to myself: "F@#%k me! I can't lose THAT much weight!". I got really down about it, and then I decided to come up with a plan.

The way I went about it was to tackle it 5kg at a time. I set myself a goal of 5kg, and then came up with a plan to get there. And when I reached it, I set another goal of 5kg…

Lindor, the flatmate will be moving in. It's almost a month away, so I'm trying not to think about it. She seems OK - boring as bat****, but I really can't afford to keep paying $300/week rent on my own. I'm surprised she agreed to move in - when she came here I told her I don't really want to live with anyone, that I won't tolerate her hanging around me or getting interested in my work (it's amazing how many people get fascinated by 'media'), and that if she brought drugs into the house I would throw her out on the street :). Can't see it lasting long.

Diet Ginger Beer! I am in love with that stuff - as long as it's Bundaberg. I live on it in summer time.

Gen are we really supposed to believe you spilled red *cordial* on the carpet ;). I know how to get rid of red wine stains, but cordial mystifies me.

I had a day off my weight loss today. I decided that I would just take some time out and not be on a journey. Back on tomorrow - but I just needed to clear my head for a bit, and I did that.

OK, I'm in the middle of reading a book about the Claremont Serial Killer. Back to the lounge for me…


06-18-2007, 10:08 AM
Sad and tragic as it is, yes it actually *was* red cordial. I can't stand red wine - hate the taste, and it gives me a headache. As one of my friends reminded me lately, I've gotten very boring lately - fit, eating well, not drinking or smoking. What is left?

I'm having the same dilemma now - a friend has offered I can move in with her in Melbourne, but I don't really like living with people. I love living by myself.. but it's only for a few months, won't have to buy or move furniture, and it'll be cheaper. Hmm...

06-18-2007, 05:58 PM
Well sh*t I've gone and done it again. Weighed myself last night and I've bloody well gained 2kg and am back up at 97.5 :tantrum: took all my measurements too and all of them were up by 1-2cm.

I'm so mad at myself. This proves that I haven't achieved anything at all this year.

So now I'm really going to have to knuckle down and look at my diet. This is what I ate yesterday and it's pretty typical:

Breakfast: 2 slices of Vogels multigrain toast with a scrape of butter and marmite. Cup of tea with skim milk.

Morning Tea: 1 pottle lite yoghurt

Lunch: Cuppa soup (chicken noodle), home made chicken breast and salad wrap (flour tortilla, chicken, lettuce, carrot, 1 slice processed cheese, lite salad dressing - about 1 tsp, mustard - about 1/2 teaspoon)

Afternoon Tea: 1 banana

Dinner: Pork and vege stir fry with brown rice. Flavoured with 1 tbs sweet & sour sauce, 1tbs worcester sauce, 1tbs soy sauce, 1 tsp honey.

Then the naughty bit: 1 small pancake with 1/2 banana, 2 scoops weight watchers ice cream, coconut, about 1 tbs sliced almonds and a drizzle of chocolate sauce on top.

The pancake I wouldn't have every night, that was a bit of comfort eating but the rest is pretty standard.

What do you ladies think of this??


06-18-2007, 06:45 PM
Oh and Vonni, step-ups are simple...step up onto the first step of the ladder and step down again and continue to repeat that

Funny aren't ya?:p Well, whatdya need a 3 step ladder for? lol! Unless u have gogogadget legs that extend all the way to the top :D

Ani that sounds like something I'd say hehee. Nothing like being up front from the start. Hope it all goes well.

Welcome 2 Kris. Hope u enjoy yr time here. I just can't stay away.

Littlekiwi bananas are good for you. Look at this way, you could have slathered them with maple syrup or caramel sauce..... but you chose the healthier option.

Gen - here here about red wine. 3 years ago I worked in an Italian restaurant on weekends & they made their own wine for personal use. I had a taste and was so good I thought to get a bottle to have a glass while BF was at a conference.

One glass tasted yuk but gave me a fuzzy warm feeling so I had another.... and another. Then it was all gone so I thought to have beer or 2. By the end of the night BF couldn't understand his text messages (& I'm sms queen*). He got home to find me in front yard pissed as a newt and hardly able to stand.

Next day I day I was feeling so ill and I had to go to work at the pawn brokers. I was throwing up aaalllll day and I think I was still drunk. The customers woudn't stand still and I couldn't see them very well. Thank god the boss wasn't there that day.

Do you know how hard it is when you need to throw up, but get through 2 heavily locked security gates and then a 25mt long hall before the toilet gets in sight? :dizzy:

ok I am going. Wasn't mwant to be a long post, but.... I can't stay away.

C u all after

06-19-2007, 01:31 AM
I'm so confused!! :dizzy:

I've been trying to figure out calories and stuff. According to a website that I found says that to figure out how many calories you need per day, you take your weight in pounds - mine is 215 and multiply by 17 so for me, that's 3655 calories a day.

I've done a wee experiment using another website and I think that I probably consume around 2000 calories a day.

Does this mean that I need to eat more to lose weight? I thought that if you're consuming less calories than you burn then you should lose weight.

This is so damned confusing!!! Any input would be hugely appreciated.

06-19-2007, 02:10 AM
Little Kiwi, if you send me your height, weight, age and level of activity (how many times a week you exercise, and which intensity: light/mod/hard?), I will work out your calories you need.

Your meal plan the other day looks fine, although I have cut out soy, as it's got so much sodium that you gain water weight. The cheese may be high fat, the almonds are high fat/calorie. Also, how much rice? A "serving" is usually tiny, like a 1/3 of a cup. Apart from that, looks like a fine days' plan. Try to get out of the habit of calling food "naughty" too!! It's not naughty, it's just food. If you can eat that, and be happy, go for it. I am better when I have nothing like that, because I eat the whole tub/packet/box etc. !!!

06-19-2007, 05:14 AM
LittleKiwi when I was at your weight I was eating around 1850 calories a day and walking for an hour. I was able to lose weight by sticking to that.

I think it's more accurate to multiply your weight (in pounds) by 10, if you're inactive or 12 if you're reasonably active to work out your maintenance calories. To multiply it by 17 would give the right calories for a young, fit, and very active man.

When I looked at what you had eaten for a day, my first reaction was that breakfast was really light and not many calories. Are you able to stomach something a little more substantial, like porridge with some fruit and nuts thrown in? I find that if I eat a decent breakfast (especially if it contains enough protein and fibre), it really helps me manage for the rest of the day.

Good luck!


06-19-2007, 05:41 AM
I should be eating according to your multiply table Ani 1848 a day. thats 154lb x 12. but I am thinking at the moment to do just x10 as I am pretty inactive at the moment. so 1540cal.

guess what guess what.... I begin my course on July16th. 8.30am till 5pm and an hour travel each way. Gosh I will be exhausted but so worth it. It will be the first time bubba in care and I am anxious but hopefully it will be ok. Matthew finishes work at 2pm so will be able to pick her up earlier. OMG he will have to get dinner organised AND do the washing. Though I think I will wash and hang in mornings before I go and prepare the next nights veges after dinner and washing up the eve before. Pheww, don't know, but we'll cope somehow.

I want to get my house in order before I start so no more time to be eating sh*t. I want to vax the carpets, winter clean the cupboards and get rid of the crap laying around. Maybe have a garage sale.

I got a nice business type skirt today for $5.00 yes thats right $5.00 brand new. Its a little tight but by the 16th I WILL BE WEARING IT.

K gotta run. have read all posts but not much time tonight. I want to spen time with BF and kids before bed.

Love ya all
Vonni xxx

06-19-2007, 05:41 AM
PS Sorry bout the whirlwind post giong from one thing to another. lol

06-19-2007, 05:55 PM
Hey ladies

Thanks for all of your input. Augigi, I'm 28, 97.5kg and about 5 foot 3 - short and round like my grandad was!! In terms of exercise, my aim is to go to the gym 4 times a week, 2 times I'll do 20 minutes moderate cardio then 30 minutes intense weights and the other 2 times I'll do 40 minutes intense cardio. That's what I usually do but it has been pretty sporadic.

I had a really long think about things yesterday and I think that what I'll do is keep a food diary for the next month. I usually only last a week or two doing that so I'll have to be diciplined. I'm going to try and do some form of exercise every day because I find that when I take one day off, it often turns into two, then three ......

If I don't get any results after a month, I'm going to either join Weight Watchers again or go back to my personal trainer for a catch up. Maybe both.

I think that WW may be a good idea for me as I can't seem to get the gist of the calorie counting thing and on the points plan it's pretty much all done for you.

I feel like I need a degree in science to understand all of this!!


06-20-2007, 06:21 AM
I Skipped Today :d

06-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Where is everyone? This thread is so quiet. I hope you all come back soon.

I had a great cardio workout last night: 20 minutes of 3 mins walking then 2 mins jogging and then 20 minutes of 2 mins walking then 3 mins jogging.

I was pooped by the end of it!! :whoo:

Tonight I have to do at least 20 minutes cardio and then my weights.

Hope everyone is ok :twirly:

06-20-2007, 09:44 PM
I'm here Little Kiwi - I'm just really busy with work at the moment, and haven't had much time to stop and chat.

Haven't done any exercise this week either, and that annoys me. I'll get back into it tomorrow, but it's been a really unusually chaotic week sofar. Been trying to eat sensibly so that I don't do too much damage on the scales on Monday, but who knows!

Ah the joy of being self-employed and having the end of financial year lurking. I'll be glad when the next week is over.

Gotta fly!


06-21-2007, 11:41 AM
Wonderful… I finally got xrays done on my back today (first time I've got around to doing it since I stacked it in the bathroom, and yes I KNOW I'm slack). Anyway, part of the results were predictable because I already knew that I had a problem with my lower back. The space between two of my discs (L5 & S1) is closing - and there's less gap that there was with my previous xrays.

But imagine MY surprise when the xrays revealed a crush fracture of my T7 vertebrae. A fracture! Thought it was a bit sore…

Oh well!

Sh!t happens, hey :)

06-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Crikey Ani, how did you do that? Must be very sore!

It rained all night and was miserable first thing this morning but right now, the sun is poking through the clouds and it's great to see it again. Today is the shortest day so it's all uphill from here I hope.

Had a great workout last night, did 40 minutes light cardio and then 30 minutes weights. Taking the afternoon off work today to go and stock up on some winter woolies as Kathmandu is having a sale :D

Still managing to diary everything that passes my lips which is good. This weekend I'm going to hunt down all my old weight watchers books and start counting points again.

06-22-2007, 03:48 AM
I stacked it in the bathroom about six weeks ago, and that's when I hurt my back.

Where IS everyone? I've never seen it so quiet in here.

06-22-2007, 06:59 AM
A fracture! Thought it was a bit sore…

LMAO OMG ANI. I'm not laughing you have fracture but laughing at yr attitude to it. You crack me up. Not gonna let something as little as a fracture knock u down are ya. hehe

Sry been quiet all. I have been madly organising child care and after heaps of hassle ..... yayyy other half managed to wangle a week holiday from work to look after her. So thats one thing taken care of. Only have to organise one day a week for her now. Had to have eyes tested and new glasses, as I will be travelling an hour each way and it will be dark so I needed old glasses replaced (broken lense). I've also been getting stuffed around by centrelink.. grrrrr. Somehow they cut my FA this week to the basic but next time its back to normal.. go figure. I have to go into the office to sort it out as the people on phone can't understand whats happened. And everytime you mention the town you're in they go....... Oh yeah that place, they're hopeless. Its a neverending battle. One day I hope to earn enough to tell them we no longer need their services.

So thats been my week amongst working.

We have ALL THE KIDS these holidays :dizzy: and lucky me I get to escape to work 2 extra all day shifts heeheeee. yahoooo. I love them dearly but I love my sanity also.

Gotta go. Glad to see yr doing well ani and little kiwi. Where is everyone else?

Vonni xxx

Been pretty crap with diet

06-22-2007, 08:06 AM
Hi. My name's Kylie, and I went to the GYM today!!!!

Finally, after months of inaction, I went. I suspect the visit to the pschologist did it. I did a kickboxing class, then BodyBalance, then spent about 30min on cardio! I feel great!

The pshycologist was really nice too. I have to google Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, because that's what she does. But things are making sense, so that's great!

:carrot: I'm even going to look into getting involved in youth organisations against world poverty, and am going to talk to a careers advisor about degrees taht lead to work in that area. Did I mention I'm feeling great!?!?

Ani, I'm sorry about your back. [quote]LMAO OMG ANI. I'm not laughing you have fracture but laughing at yr attitude to it. You crack me up. [quote] You 'crack' me up?? No pun intended, I'm sure. :P


06-22-2007, 08:46 AM
Oops Kylie, you're right there was no pun intended. but good point heehee.

Welcome back to 3FC and welcome back to YOU!! big hugs to {{KYLIE}}

06-22-2007, 09:22 AM
Yes that was a SHOCKER of a pun :p. But I'm glad I gave you a giggle Vonnie. Now I know you're super-busy, but what's happening with your diet this week?

Kylie it's so good to see you back, and to hear you sounding so positive - YAY! I haven't exercised at all this week but I've been trying to watch my calories.

Is there such a thing as a mid-weight loss journey-slump? I'm less motivated than at any time in the last 10 months, and I wonder if it's because I'm starting to notice a difference, and am feeling like I've already achieved a lot. Must slap myself because it's really important to me that I can keep going, and lose the next 17 or so kilos.

I will try and go for a walk tomorrow. I promise!


06-23-2007, 10:51 AM
So I couldn't find any exercise that was quite right for me, nothing that got me excited so I decided to go to a Bellydancing class and I'm addicted. For the first time I have found something that is good for me and that I enjoy!

06-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Belly dancing is awesome exercise - great find :)

I had to go and buy some pyjamas yesterday. For the last several years I've been too hot to sleep in anything more than a singlet - but since I've lost this weight I've been freezing. I got size XL because I figured that with all the kilos I've dropped I should be able to fit comfortably into them - but they swim on me… especially the pants.

This time last year they wouldn't have fit me at all. YAY for positive changes!

I've done hardly any exercise this week - just being a bit careful with my back at the minute (or trying to be), but I've been pretty good with food. Hopefully I'll show some movement on the scale this week, but who knows?

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. It's rainy here (YAY), so all indoors for me - just pottering.


06-23-2007, 10:46 PM
i suck at keeping track of this forum.... i forget to log in so i miss pages.
oh well
this week i didnt lose any weight, am pissed and frustrated at that coz i kept to the calorie count and did exercise - however kfc, bacon and eggs, indian, milo and 1kg of M&Ms cant possibly result in weightloss, but staying the same with those foods "under my belt" hehehe is a ok thing i guess
of course i am saying this sucking on a spoon of milo...
wondering if i copy the week i lost 1kg exactly if i will lose 1kg again... thinking about getting scales that tell me more than 500gram differences but dont want to need to know as want to loose that much or more ho hum

am dreading holidays, means anywhere i go there will be kids everywhere, honestly i really dont like other peoples children.... and carparking is stressful in brisbane i feel, everywhere i go it takes longer to get a park than to get there

definately can relate to the mid weight loss slump.... i lost 15kg last year had no more than 6 more to go and then stopped, there was a change of routine and then i found out i was pregnant so there were craving issues BUT thought i had done so well i started treating myself more and more and then that's it the weight goes back on before you have a chance to notice.... pretty scary the mid weight loss slump

my hubby went out last night so thinking we are in all day today so he can recover, glad he went out he works so damn hard then comes home and takes over looking after jemima he needs to get away..... but none of his mates are married or have kids so he is in his own world now.... poor hubby he said they had all changed.... i had to tell him it was him that had changed not them.....

have a great sunday everyone...

06-24-2007, 01:45 AM
Ani my weight loss.....pfffff. What weight loss. OMG I don't know what has come over me. I have been ok with my lunch and dinner. But I skip breakfast everyday and by 10am I am starving so eat a chocolate or bowl of chips., I have done this EVERYDAY for the past week or more. SO. No more skipping breakfast. I work extra shifts this week so I am going to really try hard to be 'good'. No snickers at morning smoko or kit kat at afternoon smoko. (yesterdays break food yuk). I have slumped also. Got to pick myself up. I bought a lovely skrt for my orientation week and i really think it is not going to fit me so I better get moving and breakfasting.

I noticed that since I have stopped eating breakfast I stopped walking. AND I STARTED eating more crap.


06-24-2007, 05:27 PM
Good morning ladies!

Ani, what an awesome thing to have bought pj's that are far too big :) We like that a lot!

Last week was an awesome week for me in terms of exercise. I went to the gym Monday through to Thursday and then as I happened to wake up at 4:45am on Saturday, I got up and went for a 70 minute walk!! Now if only I could do that every week I'd be fine :dizzy:

During the weekend I dug out my old Weight Watchers books and am starting on it today. I think that my portion sizes have probably been on the large side so it'll be good to get that under control and hopefully I'll finally start to lose some weight.

Goals for this week:

Stick to my points :hungry:
Go to the gym at least 5 times :running:


06-24-2007, 08:07 PM
WTG littlekiwi. Yr exercise last week was fantastic. Wish I could get motivated to do that. I have the other half home for 2 weeks over the school holidays so I am going today to get my butt up the stairs to check out Curves. I have procrastinated for far to long using the excuse of "I can't get the pram up the stairs". They don't allow kids in while training of cause but all I want to do is just look and see.

And yes Ani your PJ drama is wonderful. I bet you were excited. Take em back and ask to swap sizes :)


06-24-2007, 08:42 PM
Dropped 0.5kg this week, and I'm happy with that. My next little milestone is to get to 85kg sometime in the next few weeks - that will be the "20kg gone" milestone. But I must be patient… I'm not there yet.

Little Kiwi and Vonni, you both sound really motivated to exercise at the moment - a lot more than me. I'm pretty sore (from my back), so am just going to take it day by day right now.

My goals for this week are to eat sensibly, drink plenty of water and do what I can in terms of exercise and movement.


06-25-2007, 12:36 AM
Hey ladies! I go home tomorrow night, so will be back to the usual exercise and routine, thank goodness! Have had a lovely time, been up to Mt Buller skiing (still semi-crippled!), caught up with some old friends, spent some time with my gorgeous 8wk old niece, Grace.

I weighed in at 88.8 this morning on Mum's scales, which I think weight a little lower than mine at home, so even if it's a kilo out, I've still lost 1-1.5kg during my holiday, which is good - minimal exercise, apart from skiing and walking, and a few treats!

Ani, you're doing so great! I can't believe you're so close to 85 now, totally kicking my arse!

Glad to hear everyone else is mostly doing great!

06-25-2007, 01:03 AM
Hey Gen, I was starting to think you'd got lost on the ski slopes. How inspiring to hear that you've managed to go on a holiday and keep losing weight… one of the problems with this journey tends to be that when we get out of our usual routines, we often put our newly learned good habits 'on hold'. I'm really proud of you!

Not sure I can lay claim to kicking your arse. I had a few month's head start on you - don't forget that!

I sat down and set myself a new challenge today. I went through my eXcel spreadsheet for the last few months, and realised there are weeks where I'm probably only reaching about 60% of my goals. And I worked out that it's only in those weeks where I reach between 80-90% of my goals that I actually lose weight.

So my new challenge is to try and lose 10lb in 9 weeks. Now I know we work in kilos, but in another 10lbs I will be at 180lb - a nice short-term goal to aim for. I also think that if I set the bar a little higher than usual (while keeping it realistic), it might make me aim for that 90% every week.

So this week's goal is to get to 86kg by next Monday, and to do that I want to:

1. Eat no more than 1650 calories/day.

2. Drink 2 litres of water.

3. Do something active for an hour every day (at the moment I can't exercise regularly because of the fractured vertebrae).

These are my regular goals - but the plan is to achieve 90% of them every day for the next nine weeks.

I'll keep you posted with my progress.


06-25-2007, 02:01 AM
:D hi girls

Well, my arms are paying for my sudden burst of enthusiasm...but it feels great!

I went home this weekend to mums, and I was reading her Sunday Mail. There is a City to Bay fun run in 12 weeks, and I'm thinking I might give it a go! It's 12km, walk or run. I would love to be able to run it all. I'm trying to convince bf to come with me, but we'll see :P

So good to hear from you all again. I feel so much better. Talk soon


06-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Great to hear that everyone's doing so well.

My big news is that when I weighed myself last night, the scales said 96.5 which means that in the last week I've lost 1kg!!! :cheer2:

I was right on track yesterday with my points and my exercise. I knew I wouldn't be able to go to the gym tonight as I've got a pub quiz night so I got up at 5:45am and got my workout done this morning!

A side effect of exercising regularly is that I am waking up so easily in the mornings. Just a couple of weeks ago I was struggling to get up and make it to work on time and now I have no problem at all.

As I've already done my exercise for today, my goal is to stick to my points and to be strong and resist any temptation while at the pub quiz tonight.


06-25-2007, 07:16 PM
Little Kiwi - you rock!!! that is so impressive i always get cocky when i lose 1kg and then think i can slack off just a little bit and then i blow it but you sound so motivated, you are kicking butt......

i am eating crap and not recording everything - i suck - i really doubt i will have lost weight on thursday in fact i'm sure the scales will show a gain.... made a little harder by hubby letting people invite themselves over on wednesday night and they are bringing dinner so i have a feeling it will be a heavy meal and that i am meeting friends for lunch wednesday... where usually i like to have a really light day in preparation for weigh in day.... oh well time will tell

the weather in brissy at the moment is awesome... rain and fog and cold! my hubby bought us some heaters the other night so the house is toasty and warm which is perhaps not a fantastic thing as my cross trainer is outside so i would be crazy to want to go out and say hello to it..... i still go for my walk though... listen to my excuses - grrrrr

06-25-2007, 07:31 PM
Raining here too Kel. I have the pot belly going. Well, I'm not weighing myself this week. I know I have put weight on, I can see my belly jiggling a little more than usual like a muffin top over my jeans. At least though I can still do them up without breathing in. lol. I hate winter, I am a regular cold fish and can't stand getting out. But I NEED to. I had a go at the other half too and said he had to stop buying me cheezles. I know he doesn't force feed them to me but they are in the house and that is enough.

Vonni xx

06-25-2007, 08:09 PM
I caught up with a friend last night. She is losing weight too, and doing quite well; she was 130kg in March and is down to 118kg.

Vonni what's going on with your weight loss? Is it that you're so busy and distracted? And Kel - you too.

I had a good day yesterday and met all my goals. I'm going to try really hard again today, and maybe even try going for a short walk. I've roped a friend into giving me a hand with work today - have a few things to do that require some physical work, and obviously can't do that myself at the moment.

Where's Lindor?

OK - I need coffee. Hope everyone has a good day.


06-25-2007, 10:40 PM
OK sorry Little Kiwi, but I got around to it finally.

Your BMR is 1752.575 - what you'd burn laying in bed all day.

If you do exercise, you can eat the following to maintain your current weight:
Light (1-3 x wk): 2410 cals
Moderate (3-5 x wk): 2716

So to lose:
* 500g/wk: Eat 1860 (light exercise) to 2166 (moderate exercise) cals/day
* 1kg/wk: Eat 1310 (light) to 1616 (moderate) cals/day

06-26-2007, 07:22 AM
This is hilarious! I went to buy new runners today, and being the predictable soul that I am I always replace the old Asics with the same shoe - just a newer model. Anyway, I got measured up… and I've dropped 1/2 a shoe size!

Well I thought it was funny!

06-26-2007, 10:58 AM
Hah - I was just telling mum today that my feet have dropped half a size since I lost weight, and she laughed at me!

06-26-2007, 09:11 PM
Thanks Augigi, I'm actually doing Weight Watchers now and find that pretty easy to stick to.

Last night I went to a pub quiz night and our team got second! Let me tell you ladies, I was a frickin will power machine!!! I stuck within my points - had just one glass of wine and 2 small diet cokes and when the nasty waitress came and put a whole tray of delicious smelling deep fried samosas literally in front of me, I said no while the rest of my table indulged.

:cp: Yay for me! It was hard though ... the smell of garlic bread and fries had been wafting my way all night and boy did it smell good!

I'm on track again for points today and will be going to the gym after work for my daily workout.

Bought 2 pottles of Weight Watchers yoghurt last night and am going to add chopped mint and cucumber and turn it into a low fat dip for carrot/celery sticks and rice crackers. Got to have something to nibble on when I'm out watching the rugby at my friend's place this weekend.

Ani, isn't that funny that your feet are smaller! Goes to show that we store fat in literally all parts of our bodies. I can't wait to lose some fat from my fingers so they don't look so much like sausages.

Keep on keeping on :twirly::twirly::twirly:

06-26-2007, 09:27 PM
LittleKiwi I have to go to a Quiz Night tonight, and I'm inspired now to copy from your willpower. I'm not eligible to play tonight, because I wrote quite a few of the questions - but it will be fun. I'm mainly going to take photos and have a night out.

At the moment I'm not drinking alcohol, so that won't be a problem - but there's always food at those things, so I'm planning on eating dinner before I go.

I'm trying to be extra careful with food at the moment, especially while I can't exercise.


06-26-2007, 11:26 PM
I've lost weight from my fingers too - my rings are MUCH looser.

The best thing that's happened so far is my sis-in-law took a picture of my with my new niece sitting on my lap, and I didn't have a double chin - we looked great!! Haha.

My treadmill hire ends any day now, after having stretched out because I referred a couple of people. I'll miss having it there - it really does eliminate the excuses when it's sitting in your loungeroom looking at you! My mum does have an exercise bike in the garage I can have though, the dial is busted but I have the HR monitor, so I can just use that. I'll bust out my bike today and go for a ride, I've missed it.

06-27-2007, 10:12 AM
Little Kiwi!!! You are awesome!!!!

*regains composure* Vonni, I know exactly what you mean about junk food being in the house is enough. I just cant seem to help myself. Tonight, I purposefully bought a block of Green and Black's chocolate (expensive!!). so the theory goes that I was meant to have a little bit every now and again, to enjoy it. ha! Half is gone, along with most of the cheap chockie block I grabbed on the way out of the shop. the only reason I didn't finish the cheap one is that bf made me promise to leave him some!

Went for a run/walk thing for 20min yesterday. Dragged bf along to the gym. Trying to run for as long as possible in those 20, walking to catch my breath. Mr. Flashpants made 3km total, I got to 1.8km, but that's a start.

Ani, are you secretly famous? You write for magazines and such...have I read your stuff? And nice work with the shoe thing!

Gen, once I've finished writing this, I'm going to go back and find the specs for the calorie calculations, and then i'm going to smile at you and ask you nicely to do mine? :D Ok, so I'm 175cm, 91kg (ouch), 19, and I'm working toward 3xweekly moderate exercise.

Off I go into the big blue yonder...


06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Wow, you're tall Kylie! Here are my calculations, although they are done at midnight so may be skewed haha...

BMR is 1760.87

If you do exercise, you can eat the following to maintain your current weight:
Light (1-3 x wk): 2421 cals
Moderate (3-5 x wk): 2729 cals

So to lose:
* 500g/wk: Eat 1871 (light exercise) to 2179 (moderate exercise) cals/day
* 1kg/wk: Eat 1321 (light) to 1629 (moderate) cals/day

Or estimate 2000 cal/day to lose 500g/wk, or 1500 cal/day to lose 1kg/wk. May need to try it for a week yourself and fine-tune for your activity level and metabolism though.

06-27-2007, 06:23 PM
I did well yesterday, stuck to my points and did 60 minutes of exercise.

I ate a Pinky bar and had a W/W sponge pudding with W/W ice cream and even though I was within my points I feel bad for eating them. Got to get out of the mindset of feeling so guilty when I give myself a treat.

I tried to wake up early today to get the gym over and done with but no dice. Couldn't bring myself to get out of bed so will have to go after work tonight. Tonight I will do at least 40 minutes of cardio as well as my weights programme.


06-27-2007, 06:47 PM
Well done littlekiwi, you sound really inspried at the moment. Jeep it up you're doing well.

Ani in answer to your question....... I really don't know whats happened. I know I have stuff going on and getting ready for study. Doing the running around looking at child care, back and forwards enrolling and getting centrelink organised, working, B/F troubles and baby health issues. Maybe I've just forgotten about me? Now we have his boys for 2 weeks and I'll be doubley busy. PLUS I am working an extra few shifts. But I am going to take the shifts as being able to withstand sitting on my arse eating crap. I take a banana for morning tea and blow it yesterday I forgot my lunch. I had lovely home cooked silverside and pumpkin to put on a sandwich. You knwo what shopping centres are like, nothing but greasy garbage to eat. I could have grabbed a wrap from BB's but they taste like cardboard. So I got a serve of chicken chips. I did only eat 6 of them though. lol. And had a kitkat for arvo tea.

Maybe I need to make myself accountable here and write everything I eat.

BUT I want to look and feel great by the 16th July when I go for orientation. Also the 14th July my Uncles 70th birthday on the Gold Coast. So walking for me (in rain prob) and eating brekky.

Gen here's mine - 150cm tall (haha) 69.8kg (grrr) and 34yrs. (pweeese do mine? Every calorie count I figure out is silly)

Have to fly, got to drop forms down to daycare.


06-27-2007, 08:33 PM
PS, Kylie way to go! Running 1.8km is nothing to sneeze at! I generally do the same sort of thing at the gym - a few minutes running followed by a bit of walking to catch my breath. Interval training's supposed to be very good for you too so I don't worry if I can't run for half an hour straight like so many others do at the gym!

Blimey Vonni, you sound flat out. I hope you get a chance to put your feet up every once in a while!

06-27-2007, 09:27 PM
Kylie I'm not secretly famous but I know quite a lot of people who are (and not so secretly). I thought of you yesterday - I met a couple of Doctors from Medecines San Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders), and I think you'd have loved to meet them. They are so passionate about wanting to make a difference to the lives of people in third world and war-torn countries. I am a financial member of them and of Reporters Sans Frontieres… two organisations that do really inspiring work!

Vonni you have so much going on, and it's even more difficult when things at home are having *moments*. I'm here if you need a friend, OK! :hug:

I'm having a good week - behaving myself with food, and trying to do a little bit of exercise.


06-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Vonni, your BMR is 1442 cals/day.

If you do exercise, you can eat the following to maintain your current weight:
Light (1-3 x wk): 1983 cals
Moderate (3-5 x wk): 2236 cals

So to lose:
- 500g/wk: Eat 1433 (light exercise) to 1686 (moderate exercise) cals/day
- 750g/wk: Eat 1200** (light) to 1200** (moderate) cals/day

**Since your 1kg losses would take your calories below the minimum recommended of 1200/day, you would aim for 1200 as the lowest cals, and should lose about 750g/wk on that much. The good news is that you are not overweight enough to aim for 1kg/wk!!


PS: Don't ever buy Sun Rice Rice Thins, in Salt& Vinegar or Sweet Chilli & Sour Cream flavours - there is SO MUCH SODIUM that it's all I can taste! I tried about 3 or 4 and had to throw the packets out!

06-28-2007, 06:23 PM
I didn't make it to the gym last night as I was feeling a little queasy. Got up early this morning though and did my weights session and 40 minutes cardio.

It's another cold, wet, miserable day and I'd really rather be at home snuggled up in bed but at least now I can go straight home after work and enjoy some relaxation time.

I was so mad last night, my kitchen is tiny and when I did my dishes they were piled up high and I knocked one of my favourite cereal/dessert bowls off the bench and it smashed. It's one of two that I bought at Disneyland so not able to be replaced :(

Now is the hardest part of the week - the weekend is where things always seem to get a bit difficult. My goals for the weekend are to stick to my points and to do some exercise at least one day.


06-29-2007, 07:38 AM
LittleKiwi you sound so motivated - you go girl! It's funny what you said about your Disneyland cereal bowl. Someone broke my favourite coffee mug - the one I got in Paris Disneyland, and it took me ages to forgive them :).

It's pouring with rain here at the moment - fantastic. I wish it would rain for days!

Had a pretty good week, I have stuck to my goals with food which is good - and am starting to do a little bit of exercise. I'm still in some pain with my back, but getting better.

I'm in the middle of reading a book about Bradley Murdoch. It's a fascinating look at life in north-west WA and outback Australia… Murdoch is a seriously sick man.

I have very few plans for the weekend. A friend is coming to visit on Sunday and we're going out to Fremantle for lunch - but don't have any plans apart from that.

Hope everyone else is having a good week.


06-29-2007, 09:29 AM
Gen thanks heaps for the info. I am going to sit and work this out properly one day very soon, Thank you. I will work on the little or no exercise cals first.

OK Here's what I ate yesterday.
(breakfast) 2 pieces of toast with marg, light spread of jam & a coffee
(lunch) Brumbys sausage roll and a cuppacino
(afternoon tea) Kit kat and cup of tea 2SM
(10pm snack with Ben (kid I give a lift home)) 2 rows of milky bar choc
Drank about 2 cups of coffee no water
No Dinner, worked through dinner and the afternoon tea was at 5.30

(breakfast) Nothing - oh a coffee
(morning tea) Kit kat, cup of tea
(lunch) small potato bake and quarter can of lift
(afternoon tea) half a choc donut, cup of tea
(dinner) Spag bog
a coffee and a cup of tea and a row of choc for night snack

So far not so good but lets see what tomorrow brings :)

Ani is that Murdoch guy the one who murdered the tourists? I really need to keep up with news properly, but trying to hear the TV around here sometimes is pretty hard to do. I get so frustrated with everyone for being inconsiderate. Good on you for sticking to your goals. Once your back improves you'll be powering ahead I'm sure.

Kylie you will be pleased to know I have not bought cheezles or had them bought for me :D and yes the white choc is in the house but one row left and it's gone forever (gone to my hips:dizzy:)

Has anyone seen or heard from Lindor? Matter of fact Mary? Kel? Rennysue? ANYONE????? So many of you have dropped of the earth.. I'm lonely :(

ok gotta run. Get to bed as I have another early start tomorrow. I'm really feeling this working full on business. And my kids and poor bubby girl are missing me terribly. She is starting to pull the cutest face when saying mumumum and coming to me. It's one of sad, but playing sad. she has a little gorilla face with the bottom lip pouted out. But you see a smirk behind it. They're cunning little critters are kids. 14mths and knows how to have me twisted around her little finger.

Have a great weekend all. I'll try to check in on Sunday.

Vonni xxx
PS Ani... Thanks for the :hug:

06-29-2007, 09:45 AM

Donuts are unacceptable
Brumbys sausage rolls are unacceptable.

Holy torledo the are BOTH over 300calories EACH. They BOTh tipped me over the allowance.

Note to self
I must not eat donuts
I must not eat sausage rolls

06-29-2007, 10:50 AM
VONNI :eek:!

Well that was what my face looked like when I read through what you've been eating for the past few days… and then I giggled.

Did you really think that chocolate and sausage rolls would be your friends? :D

And yes I'm reading about Brad Murdoch, who is in prison for the murder of Peter Falconio - and probably should be in prison for a whole lot more. A couple of Aboriginal girls went missing in Broome (where he used to live) and a great many people think he is responsible. This is a man who has a tattoo on his forearm of a black man being lynched - and who, one night opened fire on a group of Aborigines at Fitzroy Crossing (about 300 of them were having a post-footy grand final celebration). A thoroughly bad seed!!!

Now, back to the sausage rolls. I'm coming to wherever you live to throw all your junk food OUT :p.

06-29-2007, 11:06 AM
i suck again.... lost track of thread again AND STAYED THE SAME WEIGHT FOR ANOTHER WEEK!!!!!!! i suck big time
i didnt gain
i was actually expecting a gain

i make all foods allowed
perhaps that is why i didnt lose weight
nah i would say it would be lack of exercise, rain doesnt help when cross trainer out the back in the weather and walking dogs is cold experience for baby, may get her liking the pram more and take her rugged up in the pram, although lots of shopping centre walking has got to count a little.....

after no loss last week i totally lost motivation and have hardly visited calorieking at all... very weird and not me

i can still feel the motivation, and want to do it bad, i even bought jemima 2 pairs of red cordoroy pants today one that will fit her very soon and one that will fit her in ages time as I have a pair that last year i aimed to fit into and I DID, so that is aim again i will fit backinto the redpants........ andthen jemima and i will dress up the same occasionally and as tacky as it is it will be a achieved goal andshe will look so cute in the meantime......

06-29-2007, 07:06 PM
:dust: Hmmm, now if I could just find some motivation dust around here I'd spinkle that on everyone too!

Smylie, I know it sucks staying the same but dude, YOU DIDN'T GAIN!! It could have been worse.

Ani, your book sounds really interesting. I love reading those kinds of books, real page turners.

Well, today I've done it again :D I got up and walked into the office today so that's 35 minutes exercise done already and provided the rain stays away, I'll be walking home again after I'm done here.

As an added bonus of going to the gym so much this week, I've had 3 dreams involving "romantic liasons" with my former personal trainer. I like those dreams a lot!!! Keep staring at him in the gym now though ;)

06-29-2007, 09:17 PM
Kel do you have a plan you are working with? Do you know how many calories you eat every day? I find that if I don't have a plan, I end up all over the place.

I find that I only really lose weight if I have a plan - and then if I make goals that are realistic.

LittleKiwi I'm not even going to ask about your *romantic dreams*, but I reckon that it's a good thing for you to get a little infatuated with your personal trainer - more reason to get to the gym and sweat :D.

I'm going to potter today. That woman is moving in next weekend, and this is my last weekend of solitude :(. Oh well, it's too expensive to live here by myself and I'm just going to have to accept that. But I want to eat well, move and try to drink some water today… and keep on track so that hopefully I can record another loss on Monday.

Have a good weekend everyone.


06-29-2007, 09:58 PM
hi girls

Little Kiwi - you are a machine!

Gen, thanks for working that out. Sounds easy enough if I keep up the exercise (cough), I'm heading over to CK in a min to work out if my current habits are doing me any favours!

I have been walking to work lately as well. This is proof that procrastination is soooo productive. (for anything other than what you're trying to do!). I've been meaning to buy oil for my scooter, and it's nearly empty. So I've been walking everywhere so I don't burn out the engine!

I'm also being super concious of what I'm eating lately (well, up to lunch anyway). this was yesterday:
B: instant porridge
s: multiv juice, carrot and celery sticks with tztatzikikiki :P
L: 2 ham and philly wraps
S: banana, mini toblerone
D: butter chicken and bread rolls.
2l water, one tea w/2, one coffee w/2.

Not too bad. If I can plan the day, I'm ok. Dinner is my big sticking point though.

Meaning to get to the gym again, should be off tomorrow morning.


PS Vonni hang in there love. Busy=sucks, but you'll be ok.

06-29-2007, 10:31 PM
Ack! So Gen, I'm only 170cm tall. Will take this to mean that I can eat slightly less cal now.

Also, went to CK. Dinner really blew my budget. I ate 2000 cal yesterday, but I can take that down by 160 thanks to my walk to work. Also - how do I save what I've entered?? I'm afraid to go anywhere else on the site in case I delete everything I've entered!


06-30-2007, 02:56 AM
Bugger lost my bleeding post will be back later
be Good

06-30-2007, 05:22 AM
You don't have to "save" on CK, it does it automatically.

06-30-2007, 08:18 AM
my to lose 500grams a week knowing that by doing this I would be back where i was up to last year by the end of January (which is two weeks before Jemima's first birthday) then re-evaluate if I can lose the last 5 or 6 kilos I missed losing last year....
if i stick with calorie king or similar I can do it...... that was working 2 weeks ago when i lost 1kg, i was rapt, then i stayed the same 2 weeks in a row, once using calorie king religiously and once (last week) not caring coz i was/am sick
really just need another loss i think to remotivate me.... there have been little things in my life removiateing me, hubby's mates were talkiing about how someone else had lost a heap of weight, they always notice when this one chick loses weight but didnt when i lost weight, they may not have seen me..... anyway would be nice to think they were saying same about me.... and then there is the red pants i wish i was wearing this winter which are 'goal' weight pants and then there is all the other skinny minnie new mums.....
jemima has been so sooky today when she wasnt asleep she just wasnt herself, very hard when you have a headache and a cold, but i think she does too so we both are annoyed at eachother....
vonnie i dont know how you do it with so many kids and so many things to do