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AquaWarlock
03-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Saw his infomercial while channel surfing -- now he's pitching the book "Weight-Loss Cure 'They' Don't Want You to Know About" (because, as always with him, it's a giant conspiracy!)

During the infomercial, he touted:

- No exercise required
- You can lose a pound a DAY
- The weight loss is fat, not lean tissues/water
- and, of course, it's easy and nearly 100% effective (according to "doctors")

Red flags went up everywhere in my mind when he's spewing out these claims -- like his two previous books (the 'Natural Cures') ~ this sounds controversial at best and downright dangerous at worst.

But given most people's obsession for quick, easy ways to lose weight ~ I can see this becoming yet another bestseller as soon as it hit the shelves (right now it's only by phone/online order). I feel so bad for the many folks that will be mislead by him ~ not to mention getting scammed $30 in the process. :(

P.S. Haha, I did a quick google and amazon.com is selling it for $14.95, now I feel REALLY bad for the phone order folks (who are shelling out $29.95 + S/H). :o


Suzanne 3FC
03-24-2007, 05:07 PM
I've got a copy. It's disgusting and dangerous! I'm writing a review for the website.

bargoo
03-24-2007, 06:53 PM
This book has been out quite awhile. Do you think he wrote when he was in prison ?


marbleflys
03-27-2007, 02:41 PM
Someone should write a book about him, "Kevin Treadou, the Shyster Within the Miracle Cure"....I can't believe he's allowed to spew this garbage for his latest scam....."it's the plan used by ROYALTY" oh, barf.

silverose1209
03-29-2007, 03:52 AM
Suzanne can you give me a link to the review you wrote? Thanks
Amy

Suzanne 3FC
03-29-2007, 11:54 AM
It's not up yet :)

But I will tell you the basics of the book. He calls it a Weight Loss Cure Protocol which involves an extremely strict diet, hCG injections, and a list of 60 weird things you are supposed to do. Ok, not everything on the list is weird, some are just plain common advice found everywhere, such as avoiding trans fats and hfcs, and choosing organic foods. But then he says you can't wear any lotions or creams. No cosmetics other than lipstick, eyebrow pencil, and powder. No fluorescent lights. Reduce air conditioning. He recommends a lot of wacky supplements. He's forbidden by the government from selling them, due to his history of scamming, but he can sure recommend specific companies to buy them from. Kickback?

The diet is 500 calories per day and consists of lean meat and vegetables (from a very limited list). It's a starvation diet.

Oh, if you take any medication at all, ANY medication, you have to give it up. He says that every medication, either over the counter or prescription, absolutely 100% causes illness and disease and is proven to lead to weight gain. So maybe my problem is my heart medication and I should just quit taking it. I'm sure I'll lose loads of weight when I'm dead.

Then he also says you need hCG injections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin) which must be prescribed by your doctor. Since this is not something doctors just prescribe on request, and has not been shown to help weight loss (http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/29/9/940), you are probably not going to get it. If you do, then your doctor scares me.

Kevin says this diet must be followed under the care of a physician. Fortunately, this may be the thing that prevents you from following it and damaging your health.

Meg
03-29-2007, 12:05 PM
Suzanne, I'm (almost) speechless! That's so scary I don't even know where to start. But I'm especially stunned about 'no medications'. My son is diabetic and would die without insulin, probably in a few days. I'm hypothyroid myself and though I might not die without meds, I can assure you that I wouldn't lose weight, probably even on his 500(!!) calorie a day diet. :eek:

Honestly, how can this sort of thing be permitted? Yeah, I know, First Amendment and all ... but seriously, this is dangerous stuff.

Suzanne 3FC
03-29-2007, 12:40 PM
Insulin is #10 on his list. He says the majority of overweight people are diabetic or prediabetic. The solution is for everyone to drink Eleotin tea. http://www.eastwoodcompanies.com/eleotin/index.php

AquaWarlock
03-29-2007, 04:13 PM
Oh, if you take any medication at all, ANY medication, you have to give it up. He says that every medication, either over the counter or prescription, absolutely 100% causes illness and disease and is proven to lead to weight gain. So maybe my problem is my heart medication and I should just quit taking it. I'm sure I'll lose loads of weight when I'm dead.

That just made my day :D

But wow -- 500 calories a day, that IS downright dangerous. Jeez, the man might as well go folks to hack off the fat themselves with a cleaver.

meowee
03-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Meg . . . your son is Type I . . . we Type II's (those of us who need Insulin) would probably take a lot longer to die . . . :mad: Scary stuff some people stick on the boards . . . absolutely awful.

Meg
03-29-2007, 06:16 PM
The funny thing is that the doctors have never decided if David is Type 1 or 2, though they're leaning toward 1. They say the latest research is showing that diabetes is really one disease that's a continum (sp?) between Type 1 and 2, rather than separate diseases.

When David showed up in the ER, his blood sugar was 408, he had ketones, he was 17, and he was immediately put on insulin. No one in either side of the family has ever had diabetes so all that adds up to Type 1. But ... he doesn't have antibodies, which about 75% of Type 1s have and he was overweight (he's lost 60 pounds but could stand to lose another 30 or so) (did you know that Julia, David and I have lost 237 pounds all together? digression! :lol: ) That made them think Type 2.

I think he has elements of both insulin insufficiency and insulin resistance, so I really buy the continuum theory. He actually is using less insulin than he did a year ago, so his pancreas is producing some. But I don't think he'll ever be able to go off injected insulin, regardless of his weight.

Even after all my weight loss and the exercise I do, I've had fasting BG readings over 100. I think it's somewhere in my genes.

Interestingly, I have a friend who's 54 who just got diagnosed with Type 1 because he's producing antibodies.

Total digression, but I find it all very interesting. :)

Leenie
03-30-2007, 10:41 AM
Whoah.... my friend almost bought his book too.

Who said he was in prision :lol3: is it true?

Suzanne 3FC
03-30-2007, 11:16 AM
Yes, he was in prison twice, once for credit card fraud and once for swindling a bank.

Read this http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/story?id=1527774 :eek:

booklover
03-30-2007, 02:09 PM
Here's a link to the consent order between the FTC and Kevin Trudeau, if you're interested:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0323064/040907stip0323064.pdf

Oh, and did you know that Mr. Trudeau was also held in contempt for violating a preliminary injunction prohibiting him from advertising that coral calcium cures cancer? In other words, he violated the court's interim order prohibiting him from making false claims about the very product he was already facing fraud charges about.

Here's the contempt order:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0323064/040629contempt0323064.pdf

Yeah, a real man of the people, that guy.

BooBear2071
05-06-2007, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=Suzanne 3FC;1631315]
But I will tell you the basics of the book. He calls it a Weight Loss Cure Protocol which involves an extremely strict diet, hCG injections, and a list of 60 weird things you are supposed to do. QUOTE]

Ok I am not going to follow this plan and I am aware Kevin is just a salesman but I bought his book because he is the only one talking about these things. I went to barnes and nobel today there were TONS of diet books just repeating the same information. And the latest twist -- they all kind of suggested that we just won't do it. The entire concept of the book is that we just have to really follow directions *this time.*

Oh come on! Kevin does have some good points. Why is all this junk in our food? Why is Dr. Phil hawking a diet plan when he is fat?

I find that Kevin did throw in everything but the kitchen sink but he has some ideas in there that I am at least considering -- has anyone tried a cleaning the colon? That kind of makes sense. And for those considering giving up fast food this could send me over the top.

And you all know my thoughts on how we are eating too much food on our *diets*.

Plus I will say it -- I find the guy and his informercials darn entertaining.

Suzanne 3FC
05-06-2007, 08:30 PM
Some good points?

Sure, apples are good for us. Breakfast is a smart idea. Avoid trans fats.

Yes, there are some good points in there, that also happen to be common sense. But the problem here is that he's decided that if he spatters the text with enough obvious truths that somewhere deep inside we'll wonder if the rest of it is also true. Hey, apples ARE good for you, so maybe he's also right about colon cleanses, 500 cal diets, and hcg injections :chin:

I'm sorry to sound so cynical, but colon cleanses are the number one health scam hitting the public today, and Trudeau is apparently trying to milk it AND outdo it with his other crazy ideas.

The junk is not in our food to intentionally keep us fat. The junk is in our food because it's cheaper to produce so the companies make more money. The junk is in Trudeau's books so he can intentionally deceive us so he can make more money. It's estimated that he's worth $2 Billion dollars, most of which is bilked from innocent consumers.

There are a LOT of better sources for learning about good nutrition from people that genuinely want us to be healthy. Trudeau isn't one of them.

MariaMaria
05-06-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm sorry to sound so cynical, but colon cleanses are the number one health scam hitting the public today,

What?! You mean that enemas DON'T make you skinny?

It sounds so much less attractive --and so much more ridiculous-- when you don't use the euphemism.

Suzanne 3FC
05-06-2007, 08:42 PM
:rofl: Very good point!

BooBear2071
05-06-2007, 08:54 PM
The junk is in Trudeau's books so he can intentionally deceive us so he can make more money. It's estimated that he's worth $2 Billion dollars, most of which is bilked from innocent consumers.

But that applies to any of the weight loss guru's -- Kevin is merely the most hated of them all. Hey I am not deceived (is anyone?) as to the infamous Kevin Trudeau but when someone *less* known gets out there with the equally outragious ideas -- Dr. Perricone would have you eat salmon for every meal of your life - the vitriol doesn't go at him. There is a ton of junk out there deceiving dieters -- I give Kevin credit for at least writing (or taking someone else's idea and representing it) something I haven't heard before.

The diet area in the book store is littered with diet books. Just as many either being pure crap or just regergitating old ideas and spewing them out there. At least Kevin hasn't put out the "Kevin Tredeau" diet bars yet. It is just a book.

Suzanne 3FC
05-06-2007, 09:06 PM
At least Kevin hasn't put out the "Kevin Tredeau" diet bars yet. It is just a book.

Because he's forbidden by the government from selling products like that, due to his criminal history of false medical claims for dietary supplements. The only reason he can sell a book is because books are protected by the First Amendment and even the government can't stop him.

I do agree that the shelves are littered with diet books. Most do repeat the same old advice. Eat a balanced diet, watch portions, and get more exercise. Unfortunately, not enough people are following it. There isn't any new advice, that's why quacks like Trudeau come out with gimmicks.

Eat a balanced diet, watch portions, and get more exercise. That's the real Natural Weight Loss Cure.

CrimsonClover
05-06-2007, 09:14 PM
I am not sure, but is it not kind of contradictory to say NO PRESCRIPTIONS, and then recommend to go to a dr to get PRESCRIPED injections?

Seems counterintuitive to his hypothesis

catsnhorses
05-06-2007, 09:49 PM
I bought one of his previous books because it looked kind of interesting and seemed to promise info and anwers. Then found out I had to go to his website to learn more, and would have had to pay even more to get the privileged info. I just shelled out $35 for the freakin' book, give me the info now!! Grr.

Colour me unimpressed.

That was before I knew of any of the stuff mentioned in this thread about fraud and prison etc.

Last week my friend told me that someone in her family is doing this weird diet that involves eating organic only for a month, then 500 calories per day (didn't prisoners in concentration camps in WW2 get more than that?! :?: ) then weird injections.... as soon as she got to the needles I knew for sure I wasn't interested, then she told me it was a Kevin Trudeau thing.

And I went into Coles bookstore today and guess what is prominently displayed behind the cash register? yep, Mr Trudeau's latest magnum opus.

Some people just have too much chutzpah! :mad:

tyciol
05-07-2007, 10:20 AM
It's not a lie to say you can lose weight without exercising, calorie reduction along with healthy food and macronutrient alteration can make some difference, along with reductions in stress and things like that.

Though Kevin Trudeau probably wants you to use some weird device or herb or something, the guy's largely a quack salesman in my opinion.

Meg
05-07-2007, 10:30 AM
Check out the 3FC review (http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Book_Reviews/The_Weight_Loss_Cure_They_Don%27t_Want_You_to_Know _About/) that was posted today.

FatToFitVirgo
05-07-2007, 12:53 PM
CrimsonClover, I believe the word you're looking for is hypocritical!

I had only vaguely heard of this guy--all of it in negative terms, for all the reasons outlined here--and hadn't gotten his name. When I came here this morning, I went to the 3FC review, wondering what it would be.

I am SO glad to see him debunked!! I am absolutely horrified when I think of the thousands of desperate-to-lose individuals out there who would plunk down their $35 hoping to finally "get the answer". After all, he claims the truth is being withheld, and isn't that worth getting your money from you?

He is neither the first nor last charlatan to cheat people out of their money with spurious claims--but to lie about the human gonadotropin and send people to their doctors to get shots of questionable--and likely harmful results is thoroughly reprehensible!

Oh, and how could I almost miss adding this: Two years ago, I joined WW and not only could not lose weight doing the right things like I used to, I was gaining! So I went to my doctor, got some blood work done--and learned my thyroid had stopped functioning!! As soon as I went on my thyroid meds, I was able to lose weight again. So he's an outright LYIN' SKUNK!! to claim "all prescriptions make you fat". Not to mention there are a lot of people who would get extremely ill, if not die, if they were to suddenly stop taking their prescription meds.

I am SO glad you told the truth on this charlatan!!!

Ready2ShedLBS
05-07-2007, 11:07 PM
I dont know about the book but I do know a girl that gets shots, I believe its the hCG.. anyways.. shes lost 20lbs. I dunno. Not something I would do but hey.. according to her it works.

suechef
05-09-2007, 03:59 AM
There's a pretty good website called "Quackwatch", lots in there about Trudeau, Perricone and others, as well as a host of info about questionable people and questionable products or methods. If I see a site that's using a doctor (that isn't a medical sort of site) or other "expert" I generally go look them up there.

cheers,
Sue