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JessicaBT
03-02-2007, 05:29 PM
Ok, so I'm not eating perfectly, but I have been excercizing every day for 7 days, and I have not had anything to drink except for water for 5 days. I have been eating less food, and more chicken and fish.
I just now settled on a diet yesterday, actually, so before I was just kind of unfocused. Yesterday I settled on the Atkins diet, after finishing 4 books. One about good fats and bad fats, one about nutrients, one about calorie counting, and the Atkins New Diet Revolution. What he said made scientific sense, so I decided to try it. If I haven't lost significant weight in two more weeks (Like at least 6 pounds,) I'm going to try a different diet. If what he says is right, and especially with my increased excercize, then I will have lost that much by then. If I haven't, he's wrong. At least in my case. I'm going to follow the diet perfectly for that amount of time. Yesterday I didn't have a single carb. I ate meat, meat and mroe meat. I had bacon, crab legs, and steak. I ignored the fat count. I just ate no carbs, and excercized.
Anyway, so it's true, I just settled on a diet, and only as an experimental trial, but I HAVE been burning more calories than I ate for the last 7 days. I have totally cut out soft drinks and started excercizing. It seems like I should have at least lost half a pound.. but... nothing! I'm becoming frustrated.


Puncezilla
03-02-2007, 06:09 PM
Hi Jessica, Sometimes it takes your body time to adjust . sounds like you are doing great with the exercise, I am sure it will help. I started atkins jan.28 and have lost 10 lbs so far. Try to eat some veggies also . There are lots of great people in the atkins thread who will be able to help you. I use fitday to track my carbs and keep them around 20 a day. hang in there!

PinkyPie
03-02-2007, 06:13 PM
It definitely takes time. Plus it's really, really helpful to stick to whatever you choose, to make a committment and not have expectations, but think of POSSIBILITIES instead. Exercise IS important and sometimes it takes a while before the number on the scale changes.

I have been pretty much on target for the last week + and I just finished my 8th day in a row workout yet when I weighed myself this morning I was up a bit (a kilo). I COULD let it discourage me, but the number on the scale is NOT the be all and end all of the entire journey.

Don't think too far ahead and don't think "if it doesn't work in two weeks I'm stopping" - rather, think about everything that losing weight and getting healthy means to you and work on ALL aspects of your solution to your health rather than just numbers.

Hang in there and keep us posted on your results!


SwimGirl
03-02-2007, 06:49 PM
I have to echo the veggies thing! They are SO important to help you lose weight, I aim for 4 cups of veggies a day. Broccoli is REALLY good, low in carbs I believe, and when steamed with some garlic, it's SO good for you!

Another thing I found out this week is that if you are doing weight-type exercises you may retain some water weight in your muscles. Make sure you are drinking lots of water!

-Aimee

sunshine08
03-02-2007, 06:58 PM
Hang in there, girlfriend. It took me almost 3 weeks to loose more than a couple pounds, but well before then, my clothes started fitting better. You're probably gaining some really good muscle that will help you burn more calories in the future. Good job, I can never quite make it up to 7 days of working out!

canadian mom
03-02-2007, 07:05 PM
Yuo could be building muscle while losinf fat so the scale will not move you shoul messure inches also. I go for periods where I do not lose any but I can SEE a difffence in my shape and when I mesure I see that I have lost inches.

GatorgalstuckinGA
03-02-2007, 07:05 PM
hang in there...you can do it. My question is this however? why does the atkins make "scientific sense". I am a firm opposer to atkins...i;ve seen some harmful effects from ppl who did atkins...but what makes me question the atkins is my knowledge of veterinarian medicine. Ok so i know we are humans...but we are mammals. in veterinarian medicine...we have many health side effects from animals that go inot ketosis (the thing that happens with atkins). and animals do very poorly in ketosis. Also, i've just known too many ppl that either gained the weight back or had medical compications using atkins. I also feel that veggies and fruit are a key ingredient with a "healthy" lifestyle. Choose what you want and good luck with the weight loss. But just learn about all the side effects from atkins. I havent met a person yet that lost weight using either WW or calorie counting that had "side effects" if it was done correctly. sorry i'll get off my soap box now. I do wish you success in your wt loss journey however you go about it.

GatorgalstuckinGA
03-02-2007, 07:07 PM
i do admit...too many carbs is bad...i choose to limit my carbs to a few times a day. and try to use whole wheat...but i think total elimination of carbs isn't necessary. i eat mostly fresh fruit/vegges some healthy fat and protien. I also journal all my eating and make sure that when i exercise...i do different things to give my exercise vairation.

baffled111
03-02-2007, 07:21 PM
I think Atkins is scary. The idea of losing weight while eating pounds of meat and cheese is completely counter-intutuitive. Plus, you never learn the healthy eating habits you'll need to keep the weight off.

I will say, also, that basic calorie counting is very scientific and very simple. 3500 calories = 1 pound. Eat 3500 fewer calories, lose a pound; eat 3500 more calories, gain a pound. There are other factors like muscle mass, water weight etc, etc, but the calories-in, calories-out way of thinking about food, exercise and my body really demystified weight-loss (and weight-gain) for me, and it doesn't require putting your body in a state of shock. Carbs are high in calories, so I keep mine to a minimum, but they are a completely necessary food group. You need them.

*steps off soap box*

But, to each her own. Just be patient, Jessica. If you're exercising and eating properly you WILL lose weight.

Suzanne 3FC
03-02-2007, 07:44 PM
The Atkins plan is not a zero carb plan. You are required to eat vegetables. Please don't ignore that part of the plan and live on crab legs and bacon. Your health will suffer greatly if you do. I can understand your desire to find a weight loss plan that works for you, and sometime that takes a lot of trial and error. You know what they say - you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your prince :) If this is indeed the plan for you, then it will help you not only lose weight, but become healthy. That's the case with any diet plan. You'll only succeed if you follow it to the letter and that means eating more than just meat.

Good luck :)

Heather
03-02-2007, 07:46 PM
I applaud you for taking the time to find a program you think will work, but I'm also a little concerned. It sounds like you are expecting results very quickly, and sometimes weight loss just doesn't work like that, no matter the program. Remember that lots of issues affect the number on the scale -- water retention being a big one for many of us. If you've lost a pound of fat but are retaining water your scale won't show you that.

Also, I can't speak for you, but for most people the goal isn't just to lose weight but to find a lifestyle that will allow them to keep it off for good. Is this one you think you can stick to?

So for both of those counts, I echo the posters who suggested patience. You didn't put the weight on overnight, and as much as we all want a magic wand, it's not going to come off overnight. Find a program (or design your own) that will help you lose weight sensibly and keep it off.

aphil
03-02-2007, 09:52 PM
I would also like to echo that if you are going to do Atkins, that you do it correctly. The Induction phase, the first two weeks on the program, wants you to take in about 20 carbs per day. These carbs are going to come from your vegetables. (low carb veggies like broccoli, lettuce, etc.)

After the induction phase, you slowly add a few carbs at a time-maybe 22-23 a day the next week, and keep adding a few carbs each week until you figure out the level where you STOP losing weight, and stay just below that. It is not a "no carb" diet. In later stages of Atkins, you even add back in some nuts, and some lower carb fruits-such as berries. You aren't supposed to just eat meat...

Also, a healthy rate of weight loss is 1-2 pounds per week on average...so you cannot expect to lose 1/2 a pound in one day. Please be patient with yourself, and try to only weigh once or twice a week, so you don't drive yourself crazy. Healthy weight loss takes time...we didn't gain the weight overnight, and we aren't going to lose it overnight-even though we may want to. :)

I am a calorie counter, but I have read the Atkins book cover to cover...and it must be followed to the letter for you to maintain your health. I see women in the grocery store buying steaks, pork rinds, and a low carb fake chocolate bar...that isn't healthy. :( A chicken breast and a side of broccoli, or an egg white omelet with diced veggies inside are much healthier low carb meals. :D

JessicaBT
03-02-2007, 10:11 PM
I didn't really expect to lose half a pound in one day. I was saying that I should have at least lost SOMETHING in the last 7 days. I started excercizing when I've not excercized since high school, and I completely quit drinking anything but water, when before I was drinking probably a whole 2 liters of Pepsi every day, and I have been eating less. Regardless of weather I'm on the right diet or not, I did expect to lose some weight by now. I'm not quitting. I was just venting. Since almost every response I got on the Atkins part of this site were people telling me "You're doing this wrong, you're doing that wrong," and forgetting to insert an ounce of support into the replies, I'm irritated after checking all of my replies. This section was mostly better, so thanks. I don't suppose I'll post in the other anymore. If there are side effects from ketosis, perhaps I'll switch back again. I'll Google that for a while. Dr. Atkins, in the book, insists that there are none, except bad breath. He also insists that you DON"T need carbs. Maybe that's because I'm reading the old book.. My mom told me that the new book is different. I have the new one. Just haven't read it. I'll do some more studying. I was feeling a little bit better doing what I was doing in the first place. (In spite of everyone telling me "Too much fat! Too many carbs!" Feeling better is good. The fact remains that I didn't lose any weight. I didn't measure myself before I started, so I don't know if I lost any inches. I just did. Let me post the measurements here, so I'll have a record.
Chest - 47 in
Stomach- 40 in
Hips - 55 in (Geeezuuuus)
Now I'm depressed.

JessicaBT
03-02-2007, 10:12 PM
But I ate some broccoli. :)

Angihas2
03-02-2007, 10:22 PM
I did Atkins for awhile. I highly suggest you read the new book. Cover to cover. Carbs, in veggie form are strictly encouraged.

Having said that, make sure this is a lifestyle you can follow, FOREVER. It's not a diet, it's a new life, a new way of eating. That's all.

On weight loss in a week, when you've increased water and excersize as you have, your muscles hold on to water. This is a natural and protective occurance. Keep the water intake high and the body will begin to flush the excess out. Your initial weight loss on almost any plan, is high. Then it'll settle into a predictable pattern, hopefully of 1-2 lbs per week. Please, I know it's frustrating and discouraging to do so much work and see no results. But it WILL happen. Regardless of which "plan" you follow, if you take in less calories than you spend each day, loss will happen. Sometimes, the body just needs to be reassured that food is forthcoming. A given example is say before you started trying to eat healthier and move more, you took in an average of 3500-4000 calories per day<please, don't be offended, most of us ate this or more, everyday>, and now you've restricted your body to 1200-1800 calories per day, your body is doing what it's designed to do, hold on to energy<calories> stored in the form of fat, just in case there isn't food. It's a brilliant biological process. The way to get around it is eat several small, nutritious meals per day, in general I have found most of the successful losers eat every 3-4 hours, to reassure the body food is plentiful, and to encourage it to release the fat.

You'll get there, but it takes time. Work the plan, and the weight will go away.


*ETA I wanted to add, when I quit drinking so much soda/sweet tea/coffee all day and switched to mainly water, my body held on to ALOT of water, something like a 3 lb gain in a week. A few weeks later I had a sudden 7 pound loss. I firmly believe that keeping my water intake high, was what caused it. My body held on to all that water I had been needing for so long and started the "flushing" process of toxins and bad crap. The weight drop was literally sudden, within 3-5 days I had lost 7 pounds. Diet hadn't changed from the previous 3 weeks, I hadn't increased my work outs and I hadn't increased or decreased water. Once my body had what it needed to restore the damage I had done from lack of water, it started releasing the excess. You'll get there girl, keep your chin up!

SwimGirl
03-02-2007, 10:24 PM
Jessica - its all down from those measurements! It's good to have beginning measurements, so store them somewhere safe so you can check back. Also, do ALL your measurements, I do my neck, wrists, ankles, I also measure 2 areas of my stomach area, 3 areas of my thighs! It's very nice to see those numbers come down :)

Broccoli, I love broccoli, it's my staple I think. It's low in carbs, good in every other way :) I've done atkins in the past, but love fruit SO much and switched to South Beach because you bring the fruit back in sooner. Do what works for your body, it may take some experimenting. One of the things that helped me ALOT with Atkins was taking a multivitamin.

You have made some GREAT changes, so keep at 'er. It will come off, and the slower it comes off the better I'm told.. altho I wish I had a magic wand to make it come off tomorrow :(

-Aimee

Cheryl14
03-02-2007, 10:50 PM
My weight loss has NEVER been steady no matter what I do, so I have learned not to expect it to be steady! I might get on the scale to find the same weight for a REALLY LONG time (eight months!). I might drop a couple pounds over a couple days! I think there are a lot of variables in weight loss! Some things that DO seem to help are drinking enough water and eating enough fiber. A month ago I started using Fitday. I found that for that L-O-N-G plateau of EIGHT MONTHS I was eating many more calories than I THOUGHT I was eating!

Something else I have found is that since I have been exercising every day, I sometimes can drop a size without ANY change on the scale! You may be like that, too!

Be patient and read all you can from those on this site who are the biggest losers. They definitely know their stuff! Check out the maintainer's site. Those chicks and roosters are totally awesome and really know what's going on to be able to KEEP the weight off! I admire them so much!

Good luck on your journey! I hope you find the answers you seek!

Cheryl

JerseyGyrl
03-02-2007, 11:30 PM
I think Atkins is scary. The idea of losing weight while eating pounds of meat and cheese is completely counter-intutuitive. Plus, you never learn the healthy eating habits you'll need to keep the weight off.



I've been on Atkins nearly 3 years now. I've lost over 100 lbs. I did not lose the weight eating "pounds of meat & cheese"...I lost the weight and have kept the weight off by eating healthy. Contrary to what most people believe about Atkins...it is a healthy way of eating when done correctly. The majority of my carbs come from veggies & salad...not from "pounds of meat & cheese".

Stepping off my soapbox;)

JayEll
03-02-2007, 11:42 PM
JerseyGyrl, AWESOME!!!

Jay

baffled111
03-03-2007, 04:56 AM
JerseyGyrl, I'm glad to hear it! There is a healthy way of doing Atkins, of course, and I'm glad you've done it that way--but I have known numerous people who cut out bread and pasta in order to increase meat and cheese; I'm sure you have known such people too. There's something about Atkins that appeals to certain lazy dieters which frightens me (and I'm thinking in particular about my obese MIL...I worry about her ticker). Done properly, and with veggies, it's perfectly fine. My concern is for people who choose the *unhealthy* Atkins route because it seems 'easier' than calorie counting or a whole foods diet or a real lifestyle change.

Anyway, cheers to you. (I am a former Jersey Girl myself--exit 9, chica!)

aphil
03-03-2007, 09:44 AM
JerseyGyrl, I'm glad to hear it! There is a healthy way of doing Atkins, of course, and I'm glad you've done it that way--but I have known numerous people who cut out bread and pasta in order to increase meat and cheese; I'm sure you have known such people too. There's something about Atkins that appeals to certain lazy dieters which frightens me (and I'm thinking in particular about my obese MIL...I worry about her ticker). Done properly, and with veggies, it's perfectly fine. My concern is for people who choose the *unhealthy* Atkins route because it seems 'easier' than calorie counting or a whole foods diet or a real lifestyle change.

Anyway, cheers to you. (I am a former Jersey Girl myself--exit 9, chica!)

This is what I was saying in my earlier post...there are many people who live the Atkins lifestyle, and do so in a very healthy manner-eating lots of salad and veggies, fish, chicken, etc...but then there are also the ones who try to "cheat the system" and eat bacon, sausage, and pork rinds all day, topped with an Atkins ice cream bar.

There are the lazy dieters who are going to try and cheat the system, no matter what plan they follow-and they are not going to get the results that they want, because of that. (Low fat dieters eating lots of fat free ice cream and Snackwell's cookies in the 1990's for instance...or Weight Watchers members eating all sorts of "1 point" junk foods-and not enough healthy stuff.)

No matter what plan you choose, be sure that you are really eating healthy and letting the plan work for you, not you "working" the plan. :lol:

JessicaBT
03-03-2007, 12:44 PM
In case any of you are talking about me, and that is why you decided to give me advice about not eating what I'm eating, I am not a lazy dieter, and I am not pigging out. It was, however, a mistake to share any of it before I figured out which way will work best for me. (ME)
And this thread is getting as judgemental as the last one that I abandoned. So if anyone can direct me to an actual supportive site, I'd appreciate that. I've never seen anyone as critical of overweight people as people who used to be overweight.
In case anyone cares, I lost 6 pounds today as soon as my TOM was over.
And my doctor had suggested cutting out as many carbs as I possible can, due to PCOS. Whatever I decide to do, you can be sure I won't be holding it up for inspection anymore. Ever since I started posting here, the low fat people have been telling me I eat too much fat and not enough carbs. The low carb people have been telling me that I eat too many carbs and not enough fat. I stop eating most (not all.) carbs, and EVERYBODY jumps on me. Is this what you call support here? Where everybody is sure that they're way is the only way, and lecture everyone who isn't doing it that way? No wonder the maintainers are yelling for people to get off their backs, because perhaps they DID know what they were doing after all.... I've never encountered anything like that in real life. I post on other message boards, and not one has ever managed to make me feel WORSE after reading my "supportive replies" like this one has.
I anticipate the responses telling me why that's all in my head and you are all trying to be helpful. Actually, I think I better not read anymore.

JerseyGyrl
03-03-2007, 01:21 PM
The reason people post on message boards is to get other's opinions...and you know what they say about opinions. I am not suggesting you are a "lazy dieter"...all I suggested is that you read Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution, if Atkins is the plan you've chosen to follow. Losing weight is a choice we make...obviously,you've made that choice and for that, I applaud you!:cp:

All the best to you!!

Kim

Jennifer 3FC
03-03-2007, 03:10 PM
Jessica, I don't think anybody was calling you a lazy dieter, I think the conversation moved from misunderstanding the diet to people that just skim the requirements on the official site and take off with what looks best. And it just happened to be on your thread...I think you honestly thought you were doing right, but you just have the old book. Try reading The Atkins Essentials. It's got the whole program plus a lengthier maintenance phase. Dr A updated a lot of the plan based on newer research about good fats, antioxidants, and other nutritional info.

Have you been to the PCOS forum? We have a bunch of PCOSers (I'm one of them) that are all losing weight in different ways, but with one common goal and one big obstacle. It is a subforum in Dieting with Obstacles.

Hope to see you there!

JayEll
03-03-2007, 07:41 PM
Sorry, JessicaBT, I think you're taking things too personally. I re-read every post here, and I can't see why you're so upset. I don't think anyone was putting you down.

Sounds like you're bouncing around a lot, and that's good because you'll want to try different things to find the program best for YOU. But I'd say it's a good idea (1) to find out all about a program, whether it's Weight Watchers or Atkins or South Beach or whatever, before you start, and (2) give a program longer than one week before you decide it's not working.

Also, many of us Chicks have been doing this longer than you have, and so we might have opinions worth considering--or not! You don't have to do anything we say! But if you put up a thread, you can expect to get some replies.

Good luck to you!

Jay

GatorgalstuckinGA
03-04-2007, 07:55 PM
I too reread all the post...not once did i think we were "putting you down'. We all have our opinions. I too was educated today on atkins. Most ppl i've ever known who have done' atkins did it via cheese, meat, bacon etc. I think there was a lot of good advice from the Atkins ppl to help you out. (i still don't think atkins is for me...can't give up the fruit)... but no one called you lazy. We were all giving help/support. Everyone at some point in there post either praised you for trying to loose wt or told you good luck. You really need to relax some. I even reread mine..which stated i didn't like atkins...but i still wished you the best just told you to read all the facts like i'd tell any friend. We ARE here for support...and if you'd slow down, relax, and reread those post...there were many helpful hints/suggestions that would help you on the Atkins tract. I think you are getting too worked up. No one had accused you of anything, we were just giving advice. And free advice and just that...advice...take it or leave it but try to relax. That is also the way you should look at the wt loss. It will happen if you just relax. Journal everything and exercise (do a wide variety of things). Good luck.

srmb60
03-04-2007, 08:07 PM
What is the recommended precentage of carbs that Atkins suggests?

We should find Lilybelle to leave a thought in this thread.

aphil
03-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Susan-
Atkins has an induction phase, or first phase, which lasts two weeks. The basic premesis of it is to rid your body of its carbohydrate stores-putting your body into a state called ketosis.
The induction phase has you on 20 carbs a day-which is VERY little-basically what you would get out of a couple low carb veggie servings like salad greens or broccoli.
After that, since everyone is different, you slowly add in carbs. You have to fiddle with it and slowly find out how many carbs you can add and still lose-for some people it might be 30 a day...for someone else it might be 70. You have to find your particular level-what works for you. You stay with that level until you reach goal, and then you slowly add in a few more carbs, and find out what level you need to be at to maintain your weight loss.
It doesn't work with a certain percentage of carbs-like 60% protein/40% carbs or anything like that-you are counting the actual carb grams per day.

Hope that helped. :)

Mami
03-04-2007, 11:19 PM
In case any of you are talking about me, and that is why you decided to give me advice about not eating what I'm eating, I am not a lazy dieter, and I am not pigging out. It was, however, a mistake to share any of it before I figured out which way will work best for me. (ME)
And this thread is getting as judgemental as the last one that I abandoned. So if anyone can direct me to an actual supportive site, I'd appreciate that. I've never seen anyone as critical of overweight people as people who used to be overweight.
In case anyone cares, I lost 6 pounds today as soon as my TOM was over.
And my doctor had suggested cutting out as many carbs as I possible can, due to PCOS. Whatever I decide to do, you can be sure I won't be holding it up for inspection anymore. Ever since I started posting here, the low fat people have been telling me I eat too much fat and not enough carbs. The low carb people have been telling me that I eat too many carbs and not enough fat. I stop eating most (not all.) carbs, and EVERYBODY jumps on me. Is this what you call support here? Where everybody is sure that they're way is the only way, and lecture everyone who isn't doing it that way? No wonder the maintainers are yelling for people to get off their backs, because perhaps they DID know what they were doing after all.... I've never encountered anything like that in real life. I post on other message boards, and not one has ever managed to make me feel WORSE after reading my "supportive replies" like this one has.
I anticipate the responses telling me why that's all in my head and you are all trying to be helpful. Actually, I think I better not read anymore.

Funny how you guess exactly what you know is the appropriate thing for us to do. Boo hoo to you. I find the people on 3FC incredibly helpful and supportive. They sure helped me get my weightloss going when nothing was happening. Sure, they did give me a bit of a reality check about my "plan", but their suggestions worked like a charm. Girl you really do need to take a chill pill! :cool: LOL We mean well, don't take it the wrong way! ;) Remember, in life there are always 2 ways to look at things..try looking at the positive in a message or words rather than the negative and you might find yourself better off. :p

sweet_talker
03-05-2007, 01:06 AM
I'm sorry you feel that way Jessica, because I can honestly say that I haven't met a friendlier bunch of people who are always willing to lend an ear, answer questions, give advice, share their knowledge or just chat about life.

This is truly one of the largest reasons I am losing weight and keeping to my plan and I'm surprised you felt the need to be so defensive against the posters on here. In all honesty, your last post wasn't the friendliest and on this website, just like in life, you catch more bees with honey than vinegar as the old saying goes.

FullSteamAhead
03-05-2007, 01:23 AM
I am not that familiar with the atkins diet, so maybe I shouldn't even comment on it......but my comment is unisversal in nature! you know what? I know it works great for some people, so i f it works great, so be it! for others, WW works great, or calorei counting, or whatever! We are not clones, what works well for one person may not work well for another. We need to find our own niche. Not always easy, and we find this through trial and error!

omg, I just saw your post baffled, lolllll. you have got to be kidding! look lady, if atkins dieters chose to forego bread and pasta for meat and cheese, so be it! Lazyyyyyyyyyy dieters? who started that? that is ridiculous! I replace the word lazy with "warriorsssss". Ha! anyone who can give up carbs like bread and pasta? please people! It really crosses me to such judments going around! for goodness sakes, we are all on different plans. Just because we beleive in our plans, does that mean we can knock anothers plans? shame to whoever started the word "lazy" shame on you! Although we have different plans here, we are here to unite, not judge each other! Let's not forget please, that we are individuals.......not only in personality type but body type as well. What works for one, may not for the other. Let's respect one another.

ANyhow, Im new here too and I feel so totally blessed to find these people here and this site! it has been a godsend. I guess with so many people here, we tend to all have our own ideas. did you join the atkins sight? from what I have seen, people try to help. Perhaps they are just offering suggestions? THese ladies are cool, im sure no one is trying to knock you girl. ah jeez, you sound like I was last week! lol feel better and hang in there. THough the word "lazy dieters" I feel was a bit harsh, though I am sure it was not meant to sound that way.....Ithink that's what se t you off!
You know what my experience has been? you can be on anyhealth regime, anyyyyy one .......and with time, someone, somehow, someway , will say something that doesn't quite jive...........I don't care how perfect it is, that's what can happen for anumber of reasons! yes? so my best advise to you is, find a plan that work for you and follow it like gold kid, like gold! and any negative comments that come your way, well, brush them off! again though, I want to re-iterate how beautiful I have this site to be and the people in it. Give it a chance, dont buckle on one comment, hang in there :)

Jennifer 3FC
03-05-2007, 01:40 AM
Ok, I am not trying to be a censor, but this thread is going down the drain fast, and I think it is best to close it up before it gets more off track.

I do want to make something clear so nobody has hurt feelings - nobody here was being called lazy, and low carbers were not being called lazy. The lazy dieter was a reference to skimmers in general that take what they want from a diet and don't follow plan. (i.e. the Snackwell Phenomena in the 90's) This was one of many conversations that were being conversed that were unrelated to the beginning post. It was not pointed at anybody here, and I think re-reading the thread will clear that up.

So with that said, and before there are any more hurt feelings, let's just put it to bed and continue on with the reason we're all here.