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FreeSpirit
02-22-2007, 08:03 PM
Did anyone else watch todays Oprah about the people doing the weightloss thing?


Reddalice
02-22-2007, 08:05 PM
The "weight loss thing," eh? I didn't watch it, what was it about!?

FreeSpirit
02-22-2007, 08:47 PM
LOL, sorry for being so vague.

She got 6 people from around the country, and they're all starting a weightloss challenge with Dr. Greene.


ennay
02-22-2007, 09:04 PM
I watched it.

So...do you think you really do need to identify the core reason why you overeat/sabotage yourself in order to be successful?

Cause I know I do it, but I dont know why yet.

tikanique
02-23-2007, 12:39 AM
same here ennay!

lilybelle
02-23-2007, 09:05 AM
I watched it and was thinking the same thing. Hmmmm, what don't I know that I should. Why did I get so fat? Mostly though I was thinking, I am now at goal and how can he say a person can't reach their goal without knowing "why". I always just thought it was cause I love to eat.

rockinrobin
02-23-2007, 09:13 AM
I just posted this on the 100 lb club forum.

I USED to think I had to figure out the hows and whys I got so fat and then DEAL with it. I'm not sure if I will ever know for sure. I wasted a lot of years trying to figure it out. I realize now it's not that vital.

For me it finally became you're fat. Incredibly, morbidly obese fat. The REAL big question was: Are you willing to make the changes necessary to lose the weight - permanently? That for me was a much more important question. I may never know how or why I let myself get so big. But I do know I AM willing to make the changes to rectify it. Much more important.

Mami
02-23-2007, 09:22 AM
Rockinrobin, I couldn't agree with you more! Yeah yeah, some of us drink too much, or smoke, or are addicted to video games, or TV, or yes, food. We've ALL had tramatic experiences in our life but at some point it doesn't seem to matter why that behavior got started, because now its a BAD HABIT! Habits need to be broken and breaking them doesn't necessarily require knowing how they started all those years ago.

brandnewme
02-23-2007, 11:36 PM
I agree and disagree with him at the same time. I think it's important to find out the WHY, if only because it will help you learn your triggers. However, some people really don't have anything specific that triggers their poor eating habits, and others just never quite figure out what their triggers are. I think if you know that you need to change your behavior, and you're willing to put in the work and continue putting in the work for the rest of your life, you don't necessarily need to know the WHY.

shelby897
02-24-2007, 12:10 AM
I agree with everyone -- if I waited to take control until I knew exactly why I eat/binge, I'd probably continue to gain weight for years. I'm sure we all have a vague idea the "whys", but it's the "what" you do about it that matters the most. Taking control of my eating removes the "why" anyway and puts food in its place -- as a source of nutrition and to fuel the body.

ennay
02-24-2007, 12:41 AM
I know mine are more than just triggers.

I know I sabotage myself in more areas than just weight. I've sabotaged my career too. I probably need deep therapy to discover why I dont think I deserve to be successful

I think it might make it EASIER to lose weight, but I disagree that it is vital. Who knows, ask me in a year

ennay
02-26-2007, 07:01 PM
So, I've been thinking about this a lot. I think there might be a couple levels.

I DID have to figure out that I emotionally ate. I DID have to figure out that I have a tendency to sabotage just when things are going well. As opposed to just thinking I have a poor metabolism or a big appetite or like food (all of which are also true)

I know to be aware and look out for those things

I DONT need to know what childhood trauma caused those behaviors

lizziness
02-26-2007, 11:17 PM
i agree with you ennay... there is a thread on the 100lb club about this.. and I think I may have upset some people with my opinion that knowing why doesn't necessarily help you..

my thought on it is, I need to be self aware because it's important to understand myself in order to correct my behavior... however if I spend too much time thinking about all the bad men in my past, and traumas of growing up - well I'm just going to get more upset and set myself up to eat more. There must be a balance somewhere. I know what I did to get myself here, but what I need now is to find a way to change it.

rockinrobin
02-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Lizzi I really don't think you upset some people with your comments. In fact I think I may have been the one who first said "It's not necessary to know the "whys". I think many of us had those same thoughts. And that's okay, we're entitled to our opinions and we're entitled to state them. And if some people get offended by it, well that's really unfortunate. I feel badly that any one was offended, I really, really do, but I don't think I would change one word of what I wrote and I don't think anyone should feel that they should either. Whatever happened to freedom of speech. And I don't think any one was insenstive at all. That's just my 1/2 cent.

And I agree, delving too much into the past, just makes me want to eat more. Yuck. Who wants to do that?

lizziness
02-27-2007, 12:12 PM
robin - :) I don't want to change anything I said either. I understand being sensitive to a subject this personal, but I don't understand the reactions from people. But I guess I view all of life the same way. Things happen, a lot of them bad, and then eventually you move on...

Perhaps it just depends on where you are in those steps...

ennay
02-27-2007, 08:02 PM
I feel exactly the same way....quite frankly, I am not sure I want to KNOW.

Truthfully, anytime I think about going into therapy and tackling it, I start to hyperventilate. I am NOT ready to face ALL my demons. Will I need to someday, probably, but not today.

lizziness
02-27-2007, 11:48 PM
my grandma was in therapy since my mom was a little child. You know what she did? She dwelled on her problems for 40 + years... and then committed suicide. :(

Of course, I'm not saying that therapy is bad. I did it and it helped me tremendously. But only because it taught me how NOT to dwell on things.

EZMONEY
02-28-2007, 01:37 AM
I really can't help much here...but as I was reading I was thinking that, ENNAY, your focus for the next 18+ years are going to be on that sweet little thing on your belly....that FOCUS should help leave those :fr: :yikes: in the dust..Prayers :hug:

ennay
02-28-2007, 09:52 AM
lol...ironic since when I post he's usually nursing..."belly" is not quite accurate ;)

Thanks Gary, I agree I have 2 beautiful kiddos....they are worth being healthy and happy for.

Reddalice
02-28-2007, 10:10 AM
I absolutely agree with that you need to identify the issue in order to safeguard against it!

EZMONEY
02-28-2007, 01:37 PM
lol...ironic since when I post he's usually nursing..."belly" is not quite accurate ;)

Thanks Gary, I agree I have 2 beautiful kiddos....they are worth being healthy and happy for.

Hey girl! I actually KNEW that and you have mentioned before what is going on when you have your "laptop" out ~ I was just trying to be polite...not there is anything wrong with...well, you know...belly just seemed like a better choice of words at the time ;) coming from me.

ennay
02-28-2007, 02:42 PM
Hey girl! I actually KNEW that and you have mentioned before what is going on when you have your "laptop" out ~ I was just trying to be polite...not there is anything wrong with...well, you know...belly just seemed like a better choice of words at the time ;) coming from me.

:rofl: gary is being BASHFUL....or courteous....both seem equally odd. :p

And I guess technically he is ON my belly- the boy has to lay somewhere.