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tikanique
02-02-2007, 03:16 PM
I have a peeve about people being lazy. In my building each entrance has two sets of doors to keep the cold from getting in. Each door also has a handicapped button you can push to have the doors swing open for you. These buttons are broken at least once a month due to over-use. We don't have a high population of handicapped people here, we have a high population of people that are too lazy to push the doors open. Mind you, the doors aren't heavy. Lean into them and they swing right open.

I saw one lady, dressed in workout gear on her way to Curves, with nothing in her hands but a purse, but instead of opening each door, she pressed each handicapped button and then waited for the doors to open (they operate very slowly) instead of just using her hand to open the door. One co-worker said that she uses the button cause she doesn't want to pick up germs from the door handles. I pointed out that the door handles are NEVER touched cause people keep pushing the button instead. Another woman I saw was using the button so she could free up her hands to pull out a cancer stick.

One morning a young man politely attempted to open the door for me by hitting the button and I told him, if he wanted to open the door, then man up and use the handle instead of wearing the electronics out on the button so it doesn't serve its purpose for those who really need it. He now makes it a point whenever we come in at the same time to run up and open the door, but he doesn't touch that button anymore - at least not when I'm looking.

Tiki


nelie
02-02-2007, 03:21 PM
My pet peeve is people who try to get the closest parking spot they can in a parking lot or people who don't walk their carts back to the cart return. If you are going somewhere that you are going to walk at, walking 10 extra feet to get there won't hurt you.

phantastica
02-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Tiki, this is my pet peeve, too! Those buttons were NOT designed for the people who use them the most. And whoever wants to avoid "germs" should be wearing sanitary gloves to open doors.

I taught my son to never use those buttons, too.

"man up" - LOL

The Curves lady takes the cake - pay for exertion of calories, but Lordy, don't exert yourself to open a door.


junebug41
02-02-2007, 03:24 PM
I see that all the time in my building. My favorite is when people take the elevator down one or two flights of stairs. I know some people have ailments that prevent them from taking stairs. There must be a lot of these people in my building...

I always take the stairs. There is no reason for me not to. I think it's kind of funny when I take the stairs and the person who is taking the elevator doesn't make it to my floor until I'm long gone because they are still waiting at the bottom.

I did get a nice chuckle about that guy and the button, though!

junebug41
02-02-2007, 03:27 PM
The Curves lady takes the cake - pay for exertion of calories, but Lordy, don't exert yourself to open a door.

This happened ALL THE TIME at the athletic facility I used to work at. People would get absolutely irrate at the staff because there wasn't any good parking and they had to -gasp!- walk an extra block to the gym.

FrouFrou
02-02-2007, 03:36 PM
You know what's funny is...it actually takes longer to wait for the door to open than if you just opened it yourself!

Nelie...I think that is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves...people not putting their grocery carts in the return! It kills me. Especially when they push it right up against the thing instead of in it!

Goodbye Chubby
02-02-2007, 03:40 PM
When I was in college, it also really bothered me when able-bodied people would use the handicap button. If they didn't want to use their hands, they would kick the button, which resulted in a greater frequency of the button breaking.

Has anyone seen the people who are too lazy to walk their dogs that they drive with one arm out the window holding the leash so the dog can walk alongside the car?

I had to include this picture as an ineffable display of laziness.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/mcruzado/fitness.jpg

phantastica
02-02-2007, 03:52 PM
Has anyone seen the people who are too lazy to walk their dogs that they drive with one arm out the window holding the leash so the dog can walk alongside the car?

No. Ohhhhh, no, that's terrible.

Awesome picture!

I'm the person who pushes my cart into the corral, and I swoop up any stragglers as well. Nobody likes dings in their car from a runaway grocery cart!

FrouFrou
02-02-2007, 04:01 PM
OMG! I love that picture! I've not seen anyone walk their dog that way but I did see a commercial like that. It really cracks me up! I really never thought anyone would actually do that, lol!

ennay
02-02-2007, 05:04 PM
I was hoping someone would put up the picture of that gym...so American

My pet peeve about the shopping carts is...at my store they offer EVERYONE help to your car with your groceries - if you don't want to take your cart back, then ACCEPT the dang offer.

I detest when there are a million parking spaces available and someone will "stalk and hover" your spot because it is close. There is nothing that will make me fix my imaginary makeup, balance my checkbook, or just sit and look stupid than someone who hovers my spot when there is another one 20 feet away

I will confess to using the handicap button when I have the stroller.

alinnell
02-02-2007, 05:11 PM
My pet peeve is grocery carts left in the parking lot....but I have to tell a story.

We own a construction company--we install windows and we specialize in high end custom home construction (most homes are well over the million dollar mark and some are multi-million dollar homes). We built a house a few years ago that had some very specialized motorized, curved pocket doors (they disappear into the wall). The door was huge--you could drive two cars abreast through the door. The door was having a bit of a motor problem and my DH and his partner were called to go and look at it. The homeowner was home, in the kitchen which was at the far end of the house. DH rang the door bell..........she (homeowner) went downstairs, got in her car and DROVE AROUND TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE to answer the door!!!!!!!!!! And then she had the audacity to complain about some problem with the window in her WORKOUT ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jennylou
02-02-2007, 06:12 PM
I use the handicapped button all the time. Of course, I'm either juggling a 6 month old and a diaper bag, or pushing a stroller - hopefully, I can get a pass. ;)

I also prefer the spot closest to the cart corral. Easy to get a cart to go in the store and to put it back. And I have to be close so that I can load DD in the car while I put the groceries in the car.

Luminous
02-02-2007, 07:23 PM
A lot of office buildings keep all stairwells locked for security except for the ground floor. You can get into the stairwell, but you can't get out unless you go all the way down. The exceptions are when one company rents 2 or more floors and decides on their own whether to keep them unlocked or not.

If I go into a multistory building I'll always take the elevator back down, not because I'm lazy but because I don't want to get stuck in a stairwell!

willmakeit
02-02-2007, 07:48 PM
I must confess...I use the button at times even if I do not have my hands full! But I guess, my excuse is that I am just too tired at the end of the day... i have walk exactly 20 mins from my office to the parking lot....its a huge campus. I use a pedometer to count how much I walk everyday in the medical campus without realising: I walk 16,000 steps every single day.

I used the button without ever realising: what if the button breaks and someone in need really wanted to use it... I feel sorry for my actions and i will try my best to avoid it. Thanks TIKI for bringing this up!

srmb60
02-02-2007, 08:37 PM
In our little town, folks who work in stores park in front of them. Drives me nuts!

Losingme
02-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Aw, Pet Peeves. I love it. Mine are both about services designated for disabled people, that are regularly used by able bodied people.

I have two major ones! A few years ago I broke my left ankle in a car accident. Now, I know that people break bones every day, but the car accident was very tramatic for me (head on, on a major highway at a high rate of speed) and this was the first time I had broken any bones. That only assisted my state of mind with this pet peeve. Anyway, I shop at the big box warehouse stores for groceries. I had to use a wheelchair to get around. (I used one of the manual wheelchairs, as this store didn't have the motorized ones back in 1999. Talk about exercise.) Pet Peeve #1 is people who walk in front of people in wheelchairs because they are going slow or because they know that they can get in front of them. It's the disabled version of being cut off. Especially now with motorized carts, why should someone using a motorized cart have to slow down because you decided to step in front of them or stepped out to get around them. It's not something that you think about unless you've had to use them. My Mom had knee replacement surgery and had to use the carts to get around at the grocery store and people did this all the time.

As an add-on to this pet peeve, my accident was the day after the Columbine shooting and there were a lot of fake bomb threats being called in to office buildings. I worked for a very large company that had a bomb threat. We had to evacuate the building. I had to hop down the stairs with a broken ankle to get out as I was restricted from using the elevator and then there was no place to sit down once I got outside. Ever been a fat girl on crutches? I was about 235 at the time. What a pain!

Pet Peeve #2 - Perfectly healthy and able bodied people who use the handicap stall in public restrooms. There's a reason that these are designated for the disabled. There's no worst feeling that having to use the smaller stalls and be afraid of not being able to stand up without assistance.

Benjasmya
02-02-2007, 10:03 PM
When I was in college, it also really bothered me when able-bodied people would use the handicap button. If they didn't want to use their hands, they would kick the button, which resulted in a greater frequency of the button breaking.

Has anyone seen the people who are too lazy to walk their dogs that they drive with one arm out the window holding the leash so the dog can walk alongside the car?

I had to include this picture as an ineffable display of laziness.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/mcruzado/fitness.jpg

I actually know someone who ran over his elderly and overweight dog walking her this way. A tradgedy that should never have happened!

lizziness
02-03-2007, 12:07 AM
Got a lot of people with the lazies at my work. I will say this though, even the thin women can BARELY fit in the regular stalls at my work.. I HAVE to use the handicapped stall otherwise I'll scrape my leg on the little sani-bin and have to step in the toilet to open the door which swings IN... Nothing like making me feel that fat is a handicap.

I can't stand people that don't put away the cart. It's lazy and rude. We always park the farthest away so we can walk. I hate it when I'm with someone who circles the lot looking for the best spot. ugh.

Another parking lot peeve - when the lot is completely empty and somebody parks right next to our car and so closely that I can't get in until hubby backs the car out. RUDE!

Luminous
02-03-2007, 12:56 AM
I used to have a pet peeve about able-bodied-looking people parking in handicapped spots. Then my mom got (and desperately needed) a handicap tag. We were going to a department store and, as always happens, all those handicap spots that are always empty when you're alone, were filled when I had a handicapper in my car. :p

So I dropped her off at the entrance and went to go park in a regular spot, planning to go get the car again after we were done. At that moment three of the handicap spots opened up, so I parked in one, because it would be more dignified for her to be able to walk back out to the car rather than be picked up.

So I parked, popped the trunk, and pulled my exchange out—a 30 pound mixer—and carried it into the store. It wasn't until I got back to the returns area that it crossed my mind to wonder what anyone who saw me park might have been thinking! :lol:

almostheaven
02-03-2007, 02:55 AM
I have a peeve about people being lazy. In my building each entrance has two sets of doors to keep the cold from getting in. Each door also has a handicapped button you can push to have the doors swing open for you. These buttons are broken at least once a month due to over-use. We don't have a high population of handicapped people here, we have a high population of people that are too lazy to push the doors open. Mind you, the doors aren't heavy. Lean into them and they swing right open.

I saw one lady, dressed in workout gear on her way to Curves, with nothing in her hands but a purse, but instead of opening each door, she pressed each handicapped button and then waited for the doors to open (they operate very slowly) instead of just using her hand to open the door. One co-worker said that she uses the button cause she doesn't want to pick up germs from the door handles. I pointed out that the door handles are NEVER touched cause people keep pushing the button instead. Another woman I saw was using the button so she could free up her hands to pull out a cancer stick.

One morning a young man politely attempted to open the door for me by hitting the button and I told him, if he wanted to open the door, then man up and use the handle instead of wearing the electronics out on the button so it doesn't serve its purpose for those who really need it. He now makes it a point whenever we come in at the same time to run up and open the door, but he doesn't touch that button anymore - at least not when I'm looking.

Tiki
LOL I rarely use those buttons when I'm trying to push a cart or stroller through the door with the baby. It's really not that hard to maneuver a cart or stroller through the regular door. But if the handicapped entrance is close, I will opt for it to save the extra finagling to get through.

But I wonder, IS it laziness? I mean, they're taking the extra time to stand and wait on it. I guess patience isn't such a virtue. LOL

My pet peeve is people who try to get the closest parking spot they can in a parking lot or people who don't walk their carts back to the cart return. If you are going somewhere that you are going to walk at, walking 10 extra feet to get there won't hurt you.
::sigh:: I used to be one of those people. I've found that by parking farther away, I've reduced my stress levels tremendously. I used to get so upset waiting and circling trying to find a parking spot. Now I grab the first one in the back. And even with a baby, I take the cart back, scoop the baby out and carry him back to the car.

I see that all the time in my building. My favorite is when people take the elevator down one or two flights of stairs. I know some people have ailments that prevent them from taking stairs. There must be a lot of these people in my building...
I used to be one of those too. I worked on the third floor and wouldn't take the stairs because my knees bothered me so bad. Haven't had any problems in that area since losing the weight. I just strapped on some knee supports and forced myself to take the stairs everyday and never used the elevator again. Kinda miss the stairs now. Strollers don't work well on stairs and I'm once again using that pesky elevator.

A lot of office buildings keep all stairwells locked for security except for the ground floor. You can get into the stairwell, but you can't get out unless you go all the way down. The exceptions are when one company rents 2 or more floors and decides on their own whether to keep them unlocked or not.

If I go into a multistory building I'll always take the elevator back down, not because I'm lazy but because I don't want to get stuck in a stairwell!
I found that one out the hard way. When I'd just started working for a company that was on two floors. I had to go down to the second floor and the doors hadn't been unlocked yet. I didn't realize they ever were locked. I tried every door in that place, went up, went down. Ended up all the way to the street before I could get out to go back inside and take the elevator up. They thought I'd disappeared. LOL

Pet Peeve #2 - Perfectly healthy and able bodied people who use the handicap stall in public restrooms. There's a reason that these are designated for the disabled. There's no worst feeling that having to use the smaller stalls and be afraid of not being able to stand up without assistance.
I was all proud of being able to fit into a regular stall. I used to bang everything on the toilet paper holder and trash can...I'd come out black and blue. So once I'd lost weight, I could use the regular stall again. Now, having the baby in a cart or stroller with me, I'm back to the handicapped stalls so I can wheel him in with me. Otherwise, I go for the stall at the very back and leave him just at the stall door and keep the stall door open.

Another parking lot peeve - when the lot is completely empty and somebody parks right next to our car and so closely that I can't get in until hubby backs the car out. RUDE!
Get some signs to leave on their windshield that read: Thank you for parking so close to my car. Next time, please leave a can opener so I can get out.

liz321
02-03-2007, 10:30 AM
Around these parts....door that have the buttons are very heavy....and there are signs encouraging people to use the button. There is one at work and if a person repeatedly manually opened it, an injury would be quite possible.

As far as where people want to park even if it means waiting until I back up, take the elevator instead of stairs and not putting their cart away.....I learned a long time ago to give people the benefit of the doubt...I don't know their story....I don't know their issues and I have enough to worry about with my own thoughts and actions.

My husband used to get so angry when some one cut him off or maybe changed lanes at the last minute etc....I told him to try and imagine that the person is on their way to the hospital to see a loved one, or is distracted because they have an ill child.....it has worked for both of us to try and view the world this way.

Just my 2 cents.

Liz

lilybelle
02-03-2007, 12:56 PM
As far as seeing what appears as able-bodied people parking in a handicapped spot. That doesn't bother me and I try not to judge. I am considered totally disabled due to my liver disease, I have a handicapped sticker. There was a time when I used the handicapped spot, but now I am thankful that I don't need it. Looking at my pic. most people wouldn't think I have anything wrong with me, but I certainly do.

FrouFrou
02-03-2007, 01:55 PM
My question is...how many times has a person gone to the rest room and seen anyone using the handicapped stalls? Me personally...never. I have used them before because they have more room than the others, and if all the other stalls are full.

The able bodied, or what looks like able bodied people to me, parking in the handicapped parking spaces doesn't bother me either. I figure if they have the placard to park there then they have a legitmate reason for parking there. Besides I don't always look for the closest parking space.

Lizzie...that has happened to me several times. I will park far away where no one is. And it never fails someone always parks next to me, cracks me up.

Liz...I am a very irritable driver at times. I too hate when people cut me off, pull out in front of me and don't even try to speed up to get out of the way, and people who slow down to talk on their cell phones! UGH! Wish I could try your little trick but most of the time when someone cuts me off they are alone in the car...just stupid drivers. This guy cut me off once doing about 90/95 or more and almost took the front of my car with him. He was not headed in the direction of any hospital, just a young kid being foolish. Honestly, I don't care how they drive or what they do. But when it comes to possibly causing me to get in an accident or hurt because of their stupidity, then I get angry. It kills me too that so many people are always in a hurry like their time is more valuable than mine.

lizziness
02-03-2007, 03:34 PM
The best part about those people that are in such a hurry is that they always wind up sitting at the red light right next to me. I can't stand it when people dart in and out of traffic like they are playing Frogger or something. This isn't a game, there is safety to consider, both mine and theirs!

Hubby started in with some road rage the other day and I just went nuts. If he wants to drive like a jackass when he's in the car by himself - well whatever.. but when he's risking my safety too - I'd rather take the bus.

ennay
02-03-2007, 03:46 PM
Got a lot of people with the lazies at my work. I will say this though, even the thin women can BARELY fit in the regular stalls at my work.. I HAVE to use the handicapped stall otherwise I'll scrape my leg on the little sani-bin and have to step in the toilet to open the door which swings IN... Nothing like making me feel that fat is a handicap.

I can't stand people that don't put away the cart. It's lazy and rude. We always park the farthest away so we can walk. I hate it when I'm with someone who circles the lot looking for the best spot. ugh.

Another parking lot peeve - when the lot is completely empty and somebody parks right next to our car and so closely that I can't get in until hubby backs the car out. RUDE!

I've had this happen twice, once in texas 2 suburbans parked next to me in COMPACT spaces and I had to go in through my hatch because there were less than 6 inches on each side ( that wasnt me who toothpicked their locks...honest)

And shortly after dd was born I intentionally parked close to the wall on the drivers side to give me extra room to get the infant carrier on the other side. Well when I got back some one had parked me so close the carrier would not fit through any door. I had to leave her sitting in the parking garage while I backed out, terrified that someone would come along and hit her or take her.


I use the handicapped stalls if the others are taken or I have the stroller-they dont usually fit in a normal stall. Thats also usually where the changing tables are.

Meg
02-03-2007, 05:10 PM
Handicapped stalls in bathrooms are handicapped accessible due to their size and how they're equipped. But they're not reserved solely for the use of handicapped people. Handicapped parking spaces ARE reserved solely for the use of handicapped people due to their proximity to a building.

When you use a bathroom stall, you're in and out in a jiffy. You're not hogging it up for several hours the way you might with a parking space. If all the others stalls were occupied, why wouldn't someone use the handicapped one? Or if you just need a little extra room and there isn't a handicapped person waiting to use it?

Losingme
02-03-2007, 05:26 PM
The instances of which I speak about handicap stalls are when there are numerous empty regular stalls but the person goes for the handicap stall. Sure they are like the deluxe stall. Plenty of room to put packages if you're shopping, plenty of room if you are slightly larger than a pogo stick to get in and out. We were at a resturant a few days ago. My mother is completely disabled due to arthritis. She walks with a cane. She gets around, but it's certainly not easy for her to stand around for any length of time. Went into the bathroom, all regular stalls are open, there's someone who appears to have taken residence in the handicap stall. She waited for the person to come out because yes, it should have only been a few minutes, not like a parking space, you're right meg. She finally got sick of waiting and went in to use a regular size stall, which was not an easy task, you'll have to take my word for it. The person was still in the stall when she came out of the bathroom.

Maybe I should have clarified my statement about that pet peeve, but regardless. It's not about looking for special treatment. It's about being able to function as normally as possible, so you can be independent. Like I said, it's hard to appreciate the situation unless you've been there or have someone that you love experience it. It's something that you really don't think about unless you're in that place.

Meg
02-03-2007, 05:37 PM
I completely agree, if the person in the handicapped stall wasn't handicapped, then that's total abuse and beyond rude. I guess the problem is that it's hard to know who's in there and why. It may have been a handicapped person who was ill ... or a drunk asleep on the toilet.

Having been handicapped myself for a time last year after surgery, I really understand what you're saying about having to live it to appreciate it. :)

meowee
02-03-2007, 07:04 PM
As has been mentioned before . . . don't forget that sometimes looks can be very deceiving. I have a nephew who has a sticker for handicapped parking and he hardly ever uses if because he gets such dirty looks sometimes. He is 29 years old and looks as healthy as the proverbial horse . . . but . . . he has a very severe allergy to the sun and needs to spend as little time in it as possible. Not every handicap is instantly visible.

nelie
02-03-2007, 07:25 PM
Liz...I am a very irritable driver at times. I too hate when people cut me off, pull out in front of me and don't even try to speed up to get out of the way, and people who slow down to talk on their cell phones!

When I moved to Colorado from California, I couldn't believe how normal it seemed for people to just pull out in front of you, Didn't matter that you had to slow down a lot or change lanes to avoid hitting them. I was really appalled at how many times someone would pull out of a driveway onto a fast road while there was traffic coming.

ennay
02-03-2007, 07:31 PM
It annoys me that they put the diaper changers in the handicap stalls...I know some restaurants have very little room, but quite often there would be PLENTY of room outside the stalls, or if they even removed a stall. I've often thought, while in there dealing with a major blow out that requires an entire change of clothing and an entire tree worth of wipes, that if someone needed to use this stall they would be seriously ticked.

lilybelle
02-03-2007, 07:33 PM
I admit that before becoming "disabled" that I did use the handicapped stall at times because I was too fat to fit in the regular stall. I never used a handicapped stall if there was a handicapped person waiting to use it. Since losing weight, I consider it a privilige to fit in the regular stall and always use it.

tikanique
02-03-2007, 09:56 PM
When it comes to bathrooms, I'm an equal opportunity abuser. If the place I'm going has available normal size stalls available then I use them. If the place has built the stalls so small they resemble Tic-Tac containers, I use the handicapped one but make it a point to hurry up. If the women's bathroom is full and there's a line, heck, I go in the mens. If I gotta go, I REALLY GOTTA GO!!!

Tiki

EZMONEY
02-03-2007, 10:00 PM
Oh for crying outloud gals! don't you get it? The bathrooms for women are designed by and built by men ~ we make them the way they are and will continue to do so because it is the only POWER we have over you...watching you squirm! from time to time..."want another drink dear?"

shelby897
02-03-2007, 11:22 PM
I guess we knew that -- we paid you guys back by frequently "forgetting" to give you doors and stalls in yours :dizzy:

lizziness
02-04-2007, 12:54 AM
i'd take a cramped stall over a urinal any day! :)

while we're on peeves and the bathroom... please for the love of all that is holy and right in the world do not have a conversation with me while you're going to the bathroom. once we're out, i'll talk to you again. don't talk on your cell phone. and if you have kids and they are running around sticking their heads under my stall wall, they might get kicked. :)

kaplods
02-04-2007, 04:04 AM
It can be hard not to judge when we see what "obviously" seems like severe laziness or abuse of handicap priveledges, and I think most of the time, we're probably right. But when the obvious isn't true, judging easily becomes misjudging, and peeves become prejudices.

When I was far less overweight than I am now, I had a boss gripe about people using the elevator to go down a couple floors (she always rode up, but walked down). I pointed out to her that I, and many other many people with arthritis and other knee problems were much more likely to climb stairs than go down them, because walking down was much more painful than walking up).

My father-in-law has MS, and while he's overweight now, from being wheelchair bound, he was a pretty fit looking man when he first started getting sick. He and I have talked alot about the special needs of the handicapped, and I must admit he gave me the bulk of my "education," on not judging people who don't appear handicapped. There are many ways a person's strength, stability, mobility and dexterity can affect how long they can sit, stand, and walk; and whether they can use "normal" bathroom stalls.

Bathroom stalls in general are my pet peeve, because so few are even normal size (even my 125 lb sister gripes about this). Some are so tiny, you almost have to back in. Then, there's the metal trash bin on one wall, and a HUMONGOUS toilet paper roll dispenser on the other wall, set so low you can hardly reach the paper - and Lord help you if you're left handed (which I am). I've seen some stalls that I wonder who besides a 95 lb gymnast could use them).

Even at my current weight, I never used handicapped stalls (unless the gymnast stalls were the only alternative) until I started having stability issues. Now, if I slipped in a regular stall, they'd need the "jaws of life," to get me out of there.

nelie
02-04-2007, 09:31 AM
When I was far less overweight than I am now, I had a boss gripe about people using the elevator to go down a couple floors (she always rode up, but walked down). I pointed out to her that I, and many other many people with arthritis and other knee problems were much more likely to climb stairs than go down them, because walking down was much more painful than walking up).


I have depth perception issues myself (besides knee problems) and at one of the old buildings i worked at, they had stairs that were carpet with a funky pattern. I really had a hard time distinguishing one stair from another when walking down them. So I'd usually walk up them but I'd never walk down them. I currently work at a building with stairs that are easier to distinguish from eachother so I don't have a problem.

aphil
02-04-2007, 11:01 AM
Pet Peeve #2 - Perfectly healthy and able bodied people who use the handicap stall in public restrooms. There's a reason that these are designated for the disabled. There's no worst feeling that having to use the smaller stalls and be afraid of not being able to stand up without assistance.


I use the handicapped stalls if the others are taken or I have the stroller-they dont usually fit in a normal stall. Thats also usually where the changing tables are.

It annoys me that they put the diaper changers in the handicap stalls...I know some restaurants have very little room, but quite often there would be PLENTY of room outside the stalls, or if they even removed a stall. I've often thought, while in there dealing with a major blow out that requires an entire change of clothing and an entire tree worth of wipes, that if someone needed to use this stall they would be seriously ticked.

My name is Aphil, and I use the handicapped bathroom stalls. ;) I also use the larger, handicapped fitting rooms in stores. However, I do use common sense. I do not use them if a handicapped person is in there and needs it.

The reason why? Namely, because I have small children, and if I am in a public bathroom, it is normally on a day long excursion with my family. For one, in 80% of public restrooms, they put the diaper changing station in the handicapped stall. I am not changing my baby on the germy bathroom floor. Second, there are now the new "baby seats" that are on the wall sometimes in the handicapped stalls as well. Basically, if you haev never seen one, it is somewhere to strap your baby/toddler in, while YOU pee. :lol:
If I have the stroller with me, they don't fit in a regular stall. I am not leaving my infant, or my 5 year old sitting out alone in the main area of a pubic restroom. Think about it-if I am IN the stall, and someone came in and snatched my baby or child, I would not have the ability to give a description of the person who did it. In the larger stall, my young child/children can be in there with me, and I know that they are safe. I also know they are not running around, peeking under other stalls, playing in the soap dispenser, or otherwise being like the other children around that annoy me to no end. :rofl:

However, if I am child-free (which RARELY is the case) I will use the regular stall.

EZMONEY
02-04-2007, 12:25 PM
I guess we knew that -- we paid you guys back by frequently "forgetting" to give you doors and stalls in yours :dizzy:

Hey yeah SHELBY ~ What about us :o shy :o guys?

shelby897
02-04-2007, 01:26 PM
You know, I haven't been on here too long -- but I think I've picked up one thing --- you are NOT one of those shy guys!!!

Back to the abuse of handicap stalls, parking spots, etc. You know, since you really don't know what someones handicap is -- I try not to assume too much -- but I also would like to comment on the individuals who will walk right past a handicapped person struggling to open a door, an elderly person struggling to load groceries, or a mother with a stroller, bags and small kids tyring to get in/out of somewhere. I prefer to concentrate on helping them out instead of worrying who parked where.

nelie
02-04-2007, 01:44 PM
Back to the abuse of handicap stalls, parking spots, etc. You know, since you really don't know what someones handicap is -- I try not to assume too much -- but I also would like to comment on the individuals who will walk right past a handicapped person struggling to open a door, an elderly person struggling to load groceries, or a mother with a stroller, bags and small kids tyring to get in/out of somewhere. I prefer to concentrate on helping them out instead of worrying who parked where.

Since one of my pet peeves is someone not putting their shopping carts back, if I'm going into a store and I pass someone who looks like they are about to put the shopping cart other than where it should be, I'll offer to take it for them. I will also grab a shopping cart if I pass one that is out of place. I figure since it bothers me, at least I can be the one that will do what others should do.

ennay
02-04-2007, 04:11 PM
My name is Aphil, and I use the handicapped bathroom stalls. ;) I also use the larger, handicapped fitting rooms in stores. However, I do use common sense. I do not use them if a handicapped person is in there and needs it.

The reason why? Namely, because I have small children, and if I am in a public bathroom, it is normally on a day long excursion with my family. For one, in 80% of public restrooms, they put the diaper changing station in the handicapped stall. I am not changing my baby on the germy bathroom floor. Second, there are now the new "baby seats" that are on the wall sometimes in the handicapped stalls as well. Basically, if you haev never seen one, it is somewhere to strap your baby/toddler in, while YOU pee. :lol:
If I have the stroller with me, they don't fit in a regular stall. I am not leaving my infant, or my 5 year old sitting out alone in the main area of a pubic restroom. Think about it-if I am IN the stall, and someone came in and snatched my baby or child, I would not have the ability to give a description of the person who did it. In the larger stall, my young child/children can be in there with me, and I know that they are safe. I also know they are not running around, peeking under other stalls, playing in the soap dispenser, or otherwise being like the other children around that annoy me to no end. :rofl:

However, if I am child-free (which RARELY is the case) I will use the regular stall.

Oh C'mon Aphil, you are a mom, you are not ALLOWED to pee :D

Yeah exactly what you said. I guess in most places they are the handicapped/baby stall. Which if you think of it, having to haul around a couple toddlers is a pretty serious handicap. ;)

shelby897
02-04-2007, 04:49 PM
Parking spaces I think should definitely be handicap reserved only, but I just think the larger bathroom should be considered for anyone who has difficulty fitting in the "claustiphobia chambers" they call stalls. That to me is handicaped, anyone toating one or more kids, and those of us who are a little weight-challenged and can't safely turn ourselves around in a normal stall without dipping our clothes in the toilet or smack in the head with the door trying to get out :dizzy: . A grocery store near us has "parent parking", next to the handicap parking for people traveling with a car full of kids, which I find very considerate.

lizziness
02-04-2007, 06:48 PM
I've seen expectant mother's parking spots too. I think that's pretty cool.

I am so going to say I'm "weight-challenged" instead of fat from now on... that made me laugh...

almostheaven
02-04-2007, 07:19 PM
It annoys me that they put the diaper changers in the handicap stalls...I know some restaurants have very little room, but quite often there would be PLENTY of room outside the stalls, or if they even removed a stall. I've often thought, while in there dealing with a major blow out that requires an entire change of clothing and an entire tree worth of wipes, that if someone needed to use this stall they would be seriously ticked.
Yabbut, on the other end of that, Ruby Ts here has the changing station in a NORMAL stall. Now you try getting the stroller in a restroom the size of a pea, enough so that people can open the door and get to the sink, when the only other stall IS the handicapped stall. So if a handicapped person needs to pee, they still have to wait, because their wheelchair won't fit in that restroom with the stroller behind the door. Then I'm in the normal size stall trying to turn around without sticking my foot in the toilet to get a diaper and wipes from the bag sitting on the floor, while jamming the door in my arse. There was no room in a normal stall for a changing table, and I haven't, for the life of me, figured out who's brilliant idea that was.

almostheaven
02-04-2007, 07:23 PM
I just ran into the handicap/what would people think issue yesterday. My dad is handicapped and we went to Home Depot to get some items that I was going to do some minor repairs on my parents' home with. I picked the closest spot to the door. That ended up being by the contractor's entrance, because I couldn't park in the handicap spots with MY car and no handicap sticker. But once we got in, dad needs a motor cart to get around. However, they're on the other end of the store, by the main entrance. So I run to the other end of the store to get one. You can't walk those baby's, you MUST drive it. It in fact will not power up unless someone is sitting in the seat. I drove it back to him. Now how many people saw me running for that cart and then driving it through the store, and what was on their minds I wonder.

shelby897
02-04-2007, 09:24 PM
Lizziness -- I'm a strong believer that we are not "fat" -- because I think a lot of people (skinny, of course) equate fat with lazy, out of shape, having no concern for their appearance. It's just such a negative term to me. We can be overweight or one of my favorite, height challenged -- I'm 5'9" but I think If I was about 6'5" then I wouldn't be considered overweight any more, I would have extra space for the extra weight :D

Almost heaven -- you are a great daughter!! I think that's what we all need to remember -- appearances aren't everything -- just because people saw you in the cart, they assume you are using it -- many people are getting someone out of a car or picking them up. However, when I was in Disney World a few years ago -- I heard a family talking about renting a wheelchair for one of their kids -- only because it would get them first in line for the rides, no disability at all. That really bothered me, they should be thankful to have healthy kids!!!

lizziness
02-05-2007, 01:25 AM
hehehe. i am height AND weight challenged... 5 foot 2. :)
If only I was 7 feet tall.....