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02-02-2007, 04:14 AM
I guess I'd better start the new thread.

I did 5k on the treadmill this morning, and I've got to run home at lunchtime to let the alarm maintenance man in, then I'll shower and come back into work to pick up my stuff and work the afternoon. Well, I don't have to run, I could get home other ways, but I worked out that running is probably the easiest way to do it, it's 4 - 5 miles and it takes 20 minutes to walk from here to the bus stop so I may as well run the whole thing by the time I've walked there and waited for the bus to turn up.

Any exciting plans for February? I'm concentrating on trying to build up some endurance, and I've got a half at the end of the month. I'm not sure whether I'll manage to PB again, but I'd like to have a good run.

02-02-2007, 08:40 AM
I'm having a harder time getting my runs in, but I'm also cranky when they're delayed, so I think I'll make it through this training season! I have a ten miler late March, another late April, and a 25K in May. I've added speedwork, but It's hard to call it that, because I'm no longer fast! I didn't keep a training log last year. I hope this year to be able to watch my speed go up on my log.

02-02-2007, 09:28 AM
I've just done my run home. It worked out at 4.75 miles, and I went the hilly way. I thought it was shorter but hillier, but having run it I'm not sure it's actually any shorter either. Never mind, I got back in time, it's lovely weather, and it makes me feel all smug for the rest of the day!

02-03-2007, 08:52 AM
ANOTHER lovely running day today, I could get used to this. Strong sunshine, but frosty and not too warm even in the sun. I managed 14.9 miles in the end, which was roughly on target. I really wanted to give up after about 5 miles, but I pushed through it, took an energy tablet and seemed to be OK after that. I even got up one of the hills I hate most in the world after 10 miles for the first time ever. I'm a bit ahead of my marathon training programme so I'm trying to consolidate at about 15 miles to get comfortable with that before stepping up the mileage a bit more closer to the date.

When you go out running do you have a fixed route in mind? Maybe it's just long runs I do this on, but when I was out there today I changed my mind about 10 times about where I was going. It depends on the weather, how hilly the start of the course is, how I cope with them if it is, whether I run past a route I haven't done for ages and hadn't thought of when planning the run, all sorts. Because I've run most of the routes round where I live by now I can pretty much work out on the run how far I'm going to find a suitable length bit to get back home after about the right mileage. It helps that I have a SDM, but after about 10 miles I was working out a route back home that would be about 5 miles from where I was, and I was almost spot on. I suppose it wouldn't be the best safety wise if I'd told someone where I was going before I set out but *oops* I never do that because I don't actually have anyone to tell. Which is why I only run on my own during the day, and I take my mobile with me...

02-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Ok, so maybe running is not for me... I went for the 3-mile group run today and I had to take several walk breaks, which was ok...but then I tripped on an uneven sidewalk and pretty much busted my cheekbone up. I have a huge bruise and swelling all around my eye and I just figured out that I chipped my front tooth as well. Pretty awful, really. Quite discouraging. I know it's just an accident, could happen to anyone, but it seems like this sort of thing always happens when I get excited about something and it's hard not to be discouraged by it.

02-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Oh, Lisa, that's terrible :hug: :hug: ... Don't let it side track you though, it IS only an incident, hang in there :hug: ...

Helen, thank you for starting the February thread.... This week when I started the Exercise Accountabity one I wanted to start the Runners thread too but I got side tracked...

My last run was on Thursday, it was fabulous... I love this cold weather running!!

Tomorrow I do 8k... Did I tell you guys I am doing the Half Marathon training just for the fun of it... Yea, I'm not the competitive type, but I do feel like running, so I thought I'd try it...

02-03-2007, 05:45 PM
Oh LisaMarie, I am sorry to hear of your accident. It's exactly the kind of thing I would do - I am not exactly known for my natural grace, and have a friend who is always warning me to be careful when I'm running and the roads are wet, I'm tired, etc. Hope the damage heals quickly.

Doesn't it seem like the title of this thread is a little too on point in the cold weather? Brrr - I made it out today for 3 miles, but it was darned cold (3 degrees). I hate the treadmill, but I'm not sure I'm up for anymore outdoor fun until things improve around here.

02-03-2007, 06:40 PM
Lisa, I'm so sorry that you fell. I hope you feel better soon. FWIW, I've done the same thing (without the chipped tooth) and lived to tell about it. This year the winner of the Chicago marathon fell just before the finish line. It happens to all of us.

Still no running but I did ride my bike for about 45 minutes today, my first non-walking exercise since the half. Felt good. I'm planning to try run/walk this week and see how it goes--nausea and dizziness seem to be calming down, and my OB's only restriction (so far) is not to ski. No problem with that.


02-04-2007, 03:53 AM
Lisa, I've fallen too, right near the end of a 12.5 mile run in the dark and pouring rain, and I ended up hobbling back with blood coming out of my knee until I realised I wanted to get back as quickly as possible and started running again. YOu just have to get back up and carry on.

I'm not running today, I've been ill overnight so I'm taking a rest day in the hope it clears up.

02-04-2007, 03:21 PM
Just came back from running 4.62m/7.44k in blistery -21c with the windchill, the side walks were not plowed because it's sunday and we had a bit of snow over night... took me 1h02m :faint:... I had it up to here with running by the end... My lungs are sore... Now at 3pm I'm going for a :swimming: ...

02-04-2007, 06:07 PM
Thanks so much for all the encouraging comments! I'm taking today off and I'm hoping to do a run after work tomorrow with my sister-in-law, though it's supposed to be 20 degrees or something (ugh!)... I think this may not have been so hard if it hadn't come right at the end of a week when I was too sick to stay on track with my workouts -- the sickness and the fall together just felt very discouraging to me. I'm ok, though -- just a bit broken, but still intact!

Anyway, thanks for always encouraging and inspiring me. :grouphug:

02-05-2007, 06:32 PM
Well, I got back on the horse today, as they say. I ran 3 miles when I got home today, even though I really didn't want to in the 25-degree weather! It was tough, but at least I didn't fall on my face this time! :)

02-06-2007, 04:08 PM
I've been ill for the past few days, but I managed just over 5 miles today. I ran home from work along the bus route so I knew that I could always stop and get the bus if I started to struggle, but I made it back OK. I always like it when I can get back to exercising :)

I've also entered another two races today. I sometimes worry that I'm far too organised and plan too far in advance to be able to make spontaneous plans, but a lot of the races round me sell out far too quickly to hang around waiting to make a decision. So now I have races every few weeks until the middle of July. That should keep me focussed for a while yet (until mara training starts again for Amsterdam at least!). The two I entered today were both 10ks in summer, a bit of a step down in distance after Edinburgh before I start building up again.

02-06-2007, 06:42 PM
I ran 2.5 miles on the treadmill today. Pretty slow pace still, but I'm still getting over this cough and I don't think I should step it up anytime soon. Hope I'm ready for the 3-mile group run this Saturday, as I screwed up the one last Saturday!!

02-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Take it easy while you recover from the cough. I'm in that situation too and my run today was pretty hard. I went out with running club and managed just under 6 miles but declined the slightly longer route. It's really cold here, I'm just glad I managed to get out before the forecast snow arrives.

02-09-2007, 05:00 AM
It's Friday so it was treadmill intervals. I still hate them, although I suppose it was nice to be inside and not out on icy pavements.

I'm dreading next Friday though, I'm going away for a short break, and the way it works best is to do my long run on the treadmill in the hotel gym where I'm staying on Friday night (the hotel on Saturday doesn't have a gym).

02-09-2007, 09:25 PM
Ugh, I want to cry! I went to the doctor today (finally) and found out I have an upper respiratory infection. He put me on antibiotics and gave me some hardcore cough syrup with codeine in it to knock me out at night, and he told me to STOP RUNNING! I did stop, of course, because Tuesday was the last time, but I just hate knowing I can't make the group run tomorrow for the 10k training team. I'm so afraid I'll get off track. Next Saturday is a 4-mile run, and I fear that I won't be ready.

Reassure me, please, that I can get back on track if I take a week or so off. I'm sad! :(

02-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Lisa, it takes about 2 weeks of sitting on your butt completely to start losing fitness, and you might actually lose more trying to work out when you are that sick. You gain fitness during your recovery (usually while you sleep) and if your body is busy doing other things, it can't repair the damage from your run. So you just lose fitness faster, and you don't get well as fast, so you're just in a complete downward spiral. Listen to your doctor, get better and then run. You'll be fine.

I got out for 2.5 miles this morning. My first run since getting pregnant, injuring the ankle, and getting over this terrible cold. Almost a month. I managed it very comfortably, but was extremely conscious of going easy since this was actually in a race, a Valentine's couple's relay I did with DH. We handed DD off like the baton! It was nice to run again. Felt really good, and I have hopes that if I keep it sensible I'll be able to run for a while.


02-11-2007, 01:32 PM
Lisa, you'll be fine, you have to give your body chance to rest. (Says she who should take her own advice more often).

I didn't do my long run yesterday, it was snowy, I'm getting over this bug and I had family staying who had arranged to go to my grandparents for lunch at the time when I wanted to be running (and then put my running stuff in the wash without checking with me whether I needed it).

I did manage 14.25 miles this morning though. I was hoping for a bit more, and the snow had melted, but I decided that as I'm not quite right yet, and I've got running club tomorrow, I'd better take it easy. I'm still ahead of schedule for my marathon though.

02-12-2007, 03:59 PM
Ah, well, so it goes again. I had some bleeding after my run, and while it was superficial, it is likely to happen again, and my OB has told me she didn't recommend doing it any more. So, I'm back to being a lurker for a while.

Another 9 months and I get to start over again!


02-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Lurk as much as you want, Anne! I hope everything is OK with you and you follow those doctors orders.

I did 7.2 miles with running club tonight, I seemed to struggle more than normal, I think this bug is affecting me more than I like to let on. Either that or it was something to do with the hill they made us run up...

02-14-2007, 05:59 PM
I'm rescuing this from page 2. 7.5 miles with running club tonight. I think the cold is gone, I managed to average about 8:25 pace, and just about kept up with some people who would have left me for dead on Monday.

02-14-2007, 09:49 PM
Where has everyone gone?


02-15-2007, 12:09 AM
I'm here :wave: I ran 6k on Tuesday? I doubt I run tomorrow, the sidewalks are very thick with snow and the windchill will be -29C *shudder*

02-15-2007, 04:38 AM
I did my treadmill intervals this morning because my routine will be a bit messed up tomorrow and over the weekend. 5.87k in 30 minutes.

02-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I wanted to do a longer run today, but I'm travelling and the area doesn't look appealing for a run, particularly as I'd probably get lost, so I did an hour on the treadmill instead. I couldn't face any more than that without losing the will to live.

02-16-2007, 08:50 PM
I ran 2.25 miles on the treadmill tonight. I hadn't run since last Tuesday (eek!) so it was a little tough. I'm supposed to run FOUR miles on the group run tomorrow, and I just don't see that happening! It will definitely be a run/walk.

02-16-2007, 11:28 PM
Good luck Lisa, and you never know, you might surprise yourself when you get out there for that 4 miler :)

02-17-2007, 12:31 PM
Thanks, Helen...I did ok, but they mapped out the route wrong and when we finished my husband said it was actually 3 miles. Oh well... I did take two very short walk breaks when we went up some fairly steep hills, and I went VERY slow (back of the pack, definitely), but I made it. Would've been nice to know I made it 4 miles, but I'll take 3!! We're doing 4 next Saturday, so I'll get a second chance (as long as they map it out correctly). I should've headed right back out and run another mile when I found out it was only 3, but I'm not THAT ambitious!

Oh yeah, and it was only 17 degrees out there! Eeek!

02-17-2007, 05:36 PM
Great going Lisa :high: 3 miles is still good :yes:

This morning I did 8.69k, at an excruciating slooooow pace 13:53... It was because of the sidewalks, it was like running in granulated sugar... I'm usually slow, but today was a total snail's pace... But on the upside I burned a heck of a lot of calories :D...

02-18-2007, 02:09 PM
A long week with very unhappy circumstances for me ended in miscarriage. Not many bright spots right now, but I am feeling well physically and am able to run again. I did an easy 2 miles this morning, with a couple of walk breaks. No watch, no HRM, just me and my thoughts.

We have a couple months before we can try again, so I'll be trying to get some mileage in.


02-18-2007, 09:22 PM
Anne, I'm so sorry for your loss. I honestly have no idea what to say to make you feel better, but I'm glad you had a good 2-mile run to be with your own thoughts. I've been trying to get pregnant for many years, with no success. In fact, I'm currently putting off an appointment with fertility specialists -- I've put it off for ages. I'm kind of torn as to what to do about that whole thing, but I'm 35 so I suppose I should figure it out. Anyway, again I'm sorry that you're going through a tough time, and you'll be in my thoughts and prayers.

As for running, I did 4 miles at home today. It was hard to go that far, but somehow I managed...

02-19-2007, 04:47 AM
:hug: Anne

02-20-2007, 08:34 PM
I'm disappointed, because my friend and I were supposed to do 4 miles tonight, but we only did 2.5. She wore out quickly -- she hasn't been running very long. Neither have I, don't get me wrong, and I was worn out too, but I really wanted to try for 4 miles and she wanted to go back. I should've just kept running, I guess, but I didn't want her to feel bad for stopping. This is why I don't always like to work out with people, because either I'm slower or they are, and it doesn't always even out very well...

We're supposed to run tomorrow night as well, and I'm actually considering getting there early and putting in 2 miles before she arrives! Is that silly? I'm not sure how to handle it, but I really do want to get more miles in. The 10k is just 5 1/2 weeks away, after all!!

02-21-2007, 12:38 AM
Lisa Marie, I hear you on a that one... I've had so many workout buddies not workout because they just aren't into it as much as I am... I OFTEN opt to run alone... I do love my running group though, because there is always at least one person at the meet up spot every Tuesday and Thursday...

Speaking of the gals I had an awesome run tonight 6k in 41 mins, a 11:45 pace, a personal best for me I think :woohoo:

02-21-2007, 09:00 AM
Hi Everyone!

Here's a question for all you runners. I'm sure it's been covered before but if you can indulge me, it would be appreciated! ;)

I started running in January and can now do 5k on the treadmill without too much difficulty. I'm excited for the weather to get a bit milder so I can get outside but I'm really afraid of making the transition. I've heard so much about how much harder it is to run outside and I'm afraid I'll make it two blocks and collapse!

Is that possible? What I like about the treadmill is that my pace is controlled by the speed I choose and I'm worried that I'll be all "out of wack" when I'm on my own. My Ipod tells me my speed (which I think is only somewhat accurate) but that could help.

Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated...thanks.


02-21-2007, 09:18 AM
You'll be fine outside. Take it easy at first and don't push the pace until you work out an "outside" speed, but if you work at a similar level of exertion you'll be able to run for a similar period of time, even if you don't quite run as far - or run further - because your pace isn't as controlled.

02-21-2007, 09:38 AM
Hi elisa822 :wave: and welcome to Cool Runners... I live in Cornwall Ontario 4 hours east from you and I've been running all winter... You should really try it, I was VERY afraid of the transition to outside when I started too but now I absolutely HATE the dreadmill :lol: ... Once you go out you'll never want to go back in, unless you really really really have to ... You're pace will be slower but after a few times you'll be fine... Try it, you like it :lol: ...

02-21-2007, 09:46 AM
Thanks Ilene! I am probably a little too nervous about heading outside and I don't know why. The treadmill seemed like a less scary place to start. I am hoping that once I get outside this spring (or sooner!) then maybe I won't want to go back to the treadmill but since I only began running in January, the treadmill seemed easier.

I do hope the transition isn't too bad because I don't want to give up. My husband likes to Kayak in the summers (we live right near the beach in Toronto) and I used to sit and read while he did that. This year I want to run and enjoy the mornings by the lake.

I'm enjoying the running but the treadmill is boring. I can't wait to get outside but I'm afraid to take my first steps! I'll keep you all posted and continue to come here for inspiration.

02-21-2007, 10:42 AM
I know there is only a week left of february, but I´m joining in tomorrow morning.. so my goal is to go running every morning, build it up slowly

02-21-2007, 11:49 AM
elisa, I'm a new runner and I find the treadmill harder than running outside. It's probably because I started running outside, though, and it probably has a lot to do with the boredom factor on the treadmill. My iPod helps, but it's still REALLY boring compared to running outside for me. I'm also slower on the treadmill. I have to keep it at a lower speed because of the consistency. Outside, when I get tired I can slow down a little and then speed right back up without fiddling with buttons. It just works better for me. I think you'll get hooked once you're out there!

02-21-2007, 12:20 PM
I know there is only a week left of february, but IŽm joining in tomorrow morning.. so my goal is to go running every morning, build it up slowlyTo build up slowly you should run only every second day... Alternate with other activities, walking, swimming, weight training, hiking....

:welcome: to Cool Runners and 3FC...

02-21-2007, 01:27 PM
Hello Ilene, you already know me.

Hello cool runners. I am a little brand new baby cool runner. I have been doing this for a few weeks (three? I think) and I am not doing much yet (but making great strides). I was lurking over here and your comment Ilene made me think of a question.

At what point do you get to run every day?

I am enjoying it so much and I look forward to my run days. I know if I did this every day it would be pushing it too much but I am wondering when I can look forward to every day runs. A month? Two? At this point do folks alternate long and short runs.


02-21-2007, 05:36 PM
I don't think it's ever a good idea to run EVERY day, you need rest to let your body recover. At the moment I'm marathon training and I rarely run more than 4 or 5 times a week, and you can certainly get away with less than that.

If you run too much and your legs never recover it can get hard to improve because you never get the chance of a good session on fresh legs. Some people do run every day, don't get me wrong, but it's not necessarily the best thing to do.

I ran just under 8 miles with running club tonight. I swear it was nearly all uphill. There was an option of a half marathon route but I have a half on Sunday so I decided to go for the shorter option.

02-21-2007, 06:00 PM
Thanks that's good to know. I'll just keep up my every other day routine and go for the mileage. I have lots of room to improve and if taking days off helps then this is what I must do.

I can't wrap my mind around 8 uphill miles I have a quatermile hill outside my house that I just barely got up the other day and it took every last bit of energy.

I really like it when they go up and then down. It gives you something to look forward to.

02-21-2007, 07:10 PM
Hi :wave: Hicker... I run every second day and only 3 times/week... Tuesdays and Thursdays and Saturday or Sunday is my longer run of the week... I've been increasing my long runs lately I'm not really training for anything but I just felt like getting some longer runs in for the Spring...

02-21-2007, 08:49 PM
Tonight I ran 2 miles with my friend, and I felt REALLY good, really comfortable. So when she left, I went into the gym and ran another mile on the treadmill at a 12:00 minute pace. That is definitely the most comfortable pace for me now. I've decided not to push myself to go faster, but I am going to try a few faster intervals tomorrow on the treadmill.

I was pretty proud of myself for doing that extra mile, especially because it's my TOM and I have cramps! (Too much information, I know...)

02-22-2007, 09:08 PM
Tonight I did 3 miles on the treadmill -- it was the farthest I've gone on the treadmill without stopping. I did five little 40-second speed intervals in there at a faster pace. It was tough but fun, and I'm kind of excited to take a day off from running tomorrow!!

02-23-2007, 04:44 AM
I did 30 minutes of intervals this morning. Tomorrow will either be something very gentle or a rest day before my half on Sunday.

02-23-2007, 11:21 AM
Helen, how long did it take you to work up to the first half marathon you did? I'm sure you did 5ks and 10ks first, but I'm just wondering how long it took before you could see yourself doing 13 miles. And after that, how long before the big 26?

I'm starting to get this crazy idea that I should do this half marathon in Virginia Beach, not this coming September but NEXT September. My husband did it last year and will do it again this year, so I plan to go with him and cheer him on in 07 and possibly do it with him (but really really far behind him!) in 08. The farthest I've ever run at this point is 4 miles, but of course I plan to start building my distance (I still have this crazy hope that I can run the whole 10k on 3/31).

Anyway -- I just wanted to see what your experience was as far as how long it took to work up to the different distances. You may not realize it, but you're my running role model!

02-23-2007, 01:21 PM
My rough timings are

Absolutely nothing - Christmas 04 (250lb)
5k - June 05 (approx 220lb)
10k - September 05 (run/walk) (approx 190?), November 05 (run all the way - sub 60)
half - February 06 (approx 162), June 06
full - September 06 (approx 155)

I've put weights on there too to show how they fit together. Once you can run a 10k all the way it's not actually that hard to train up for a half. My theory is that once you're running for over an hour, the extra distance doesn't feel like THAT much more. Obviously you still need to work up to it, but you're into "endurance" mode, and just need to stay there a bit longer, and you're well on the way.

I actually think I did my first full too soon. I feel like I'm going to be a lot more prepared this time round (May 07) and I'll have run 7 halves by then, instead of just 2, to give me more of a grounding in the longer distance races. It's nice to be able to say I did a marathon, and I did get round in one piece, but I can't help feeling I didn't do myself justice, and if I'd waited a while I'd have found it a lot easier.

02-23-2007, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the info, Helen. It's really helpful!

At this point, the longest I've run is 46 minutes, which was a distance of 4 miles. The training program I'm on for the 10k has me running 5 miles next Saturday, so we'll see how that goes. I think Sept 08 is probably a good goal for doing a half because it gives me time to get used to longer distances, run a few 10ks and 5ks, and drop the rest of this weight. I already have a few 5ks in mind to run this year, and I'll see what else pops up. It helps having a husband who's already into doing races, because he can tell me which ones are hilly and which ones are the most fun and all that. I've also watched him run several times, and I've even seen him win! I will miss seeing him cross the finish line, but it's so great that I can actually participate now. Last year I was out of breath just walking from the car to my spot where I was a spectator!

02-24-2007, 02:11 PM
I think this would be the thread to post this. If not, let me know!

I did W1w1 of the C25K program on Thursday, and W1w2 today. My workout on Thursday was great: the first few running intervals (at 4.5mph) were hard, but I felt like I got a second wind halfway through. I felt refreshed and great, afterwards!

Todays workout sucked. Like, 'never want to do that again' sucked. I ran at 4.7mph, because it felt a little slow on Thursday, but that was the only thing I can think of that changed. I just got home, and I was tired and hungry, not feeling at all refreshed.

I keep picking up the C25K program, only to drop it after a few workouts. I want to stick with it this time, but since today's workout was really unpleasant, I'm not sure that I have the motivation: I feel like running will never be enjoyable. Also, the only part of my legs that ever hurts is the muscle on the outside of my right calf/shin, and I've noticed that that foot always puts itself towards the centre of my body when jogging (if that makes any sense). The only way I can avoid this is to look down and consciously monitor it, but I feel silly looking down for the whole time! :P

02-24-2007, 04:51 PM
Kashi, I'm new to running so I might not be able to help that much, but I did my own version of the C25K program as well when I started out. I did it outside, so I wasn't sure of my actual pace, but I know that I didn't worry about speed in the beginning at all. I'm starting to try to incorporate a few speed intervals in one run a week now, but I think it's important not to worry too much about it until you build up your endurance and work on distance. That's what my running coach husband says, anyway! As far as the second workout feeling awful, I'm not sure what you can attribute it to. Sometimes my runs feel great and I'm comfortable the whole time, and sometimes the whole thing is a struggle.

Today, for example, my group run was about 4.25 miles and I thought I seriously might die or throw up at any moment!! There were lots of big hills and I had to take walk breaks. I felt bad about it afterward, but I know it happens and I can still get stronger just for getting out there. I know I can run that distance flat, but hills KILL me.

02-24-2007, 10:09 PM
Kashi, I second what Lisa said, some runs just suck and there's no rhyme or reason to it. And some feel so easy, again, it's totally unpredictable for me when one of those great days is going to hit. I had one today, and ran 7.6 miles, which is as far as I've ever gone. (Lisa, I too am considering a half marathon at the end of this summer, but am questioning my sanity a bit)

Another thing to keep in mind - in some ways, the earlier parts of the C25K program are harder than you realize. Or at least that's how it was for me. I don't really get warmed up and feeling good until I've ran almost a mile (even though I walk first to warm up a bit before I run). That first mile is the toughest part of the whole run - after that, everything comes easier. So, once you've built up your strength to get past the initial phase, the longer portions really do become easier.

And do not worry about speed. I am one of the slowest runners out there on the path, but I know that I am increasing my strength the more I run, and without really trying, my time is improving.

02-24-2007, 10:46 PM

Hi and congrats on doing C25K. I am in the middle of it too and I also had a sucky day today too and I am so glad you posted here because it really helped to hear everyone say that some days just suck.

My day was just the opposite as yours I didn't run too fast I ran way to slow. My legs felt like they had 500lb weights on them.

Don't fret, if you are persistant it will pay off.

YP1, thanks for posting the time table. It is great and inspirational to hear your story. Gives someone something to shoot for.

02-25-2007, 04:28 PM
Kashi - it does get easier, but even once you're used to it there are some days that just feel like you're trying to run through treacle. Hopefully there will be fewer of those than the good days though.

I had a really good run today, I had a half but hadn't targetted it as such, and was considering doing it more as a training run than anything else, but somewhere between the gun going off and getting over the line I changed my mind and just went for it and ended up taking nearly 2 minutes off my PB, which I thought was fairly impressive at the time. So now I'm officially, and indisputably under 1:50, my official time was 1:47:47, I guess I'm going to have to start thinking about 1:45 soon!

02-25-2007, 10:54 PM
Congrats Helen! You are amazing.

I have been sidelined with a sinus infection. The antibiotics are nice, but I'm still coughing. Hoping to run again by next weekend.



02-26-2007, 09:45 PM
Anne, I hope you feel better soon. Coughing is definitely no fun!!

Today I ran 4 miles outside. Part of the run was really hard, but by the end I felt quite comfortable and even gave a little push at the end to make up for how slow I was in the second mile.

I just wish I could deal better with hills on my Saturday group runs!! Any tips for not letting hills completely wear me out?

02-27-2007, 09:12 AM
Lisa, for hills I just shorten up my stride and go as slow as I need to. I try to keep my foot turnover about the same. I also like to use hills for a walk break, since I can often walk up the stupid thing faster than I can 'run' it. On the other extreme, I use hills for intervals. Depends on the hill (long, short, steep, shallow), on my goals for the run, and my mood.

Feeling better, and am hoping to get out tomorrow.


02-27-2007, 09:35 AM
Thanks for your reply, Anne. I've been taking walk breaks on hills, but I always feel like I didn't REALLY run the whole distance if I took walk breaks. I guess I need to get out of that thinking and just accept that sometimes I'll have to walk. I think I'm probably a bit too hard on myself these days!

02-27-2007, 09:44 AM
I've been taking walk breaks on hills, but I always feel like I didn't REALLY run the whole distance if I took walk breaks. I guess I need to get out of that thinking and just accept that sometimes I'll have to walk. I think I'm probably a bit too hard on myself these days!

Lisa, I used to feel that way too, but the reality is that everybody walks. Stopping to take in some water, stretch, look at the scenery, avoid a big dog (or wait on a javelina in my case), wait for running partners, stoplights, and yes, to catch your breath. Maybe not during a particularly critcal training run or a goal race, but everybody walks. Often. It just means you are doing it right.

If you are pushing for longer distances, then you'll want to push the walking a bit, but if you need it, take it. You'll get stronger, faster. And I don't know about you, but when I started at 276 pounds I couldn't walk around the block. Sometimes it helps to keep some perspective on that. Don't be hard on yourself for needing a break.


02-27-2007, 11:36 AM
I agree with Anne, don't be so hard on yourself. We all have good and poopy runs... When I get to a hill I don't look up to see how far I need to get up there... I look down in front of me and repeat : "What hill? What hill? What hill? There is no hill...." or "Baby steps, baby steps, keep going, keep going..." next thing I know the hill is gone and I'm on flat surface again...

02-27-2007, 01:13 PM
Hills, I am so glad you brought them up. I just found a way to conquer the uphill parts. At the bottom I start singing a long song to myself and I am not allowed to complain until I am done with the song... of course I do go very slow. Singing to myself cuts down on the negative self talk.

But I have just the opposite question.

I have this massively steep hill which is really bothering me on the way down. Sure I can go fast alright but I am worried that I am going to hurt myself. Such a hard impact. Any ideas on dealing with steep downhill stretches?

02-27-2007, 04:37 PM
Because I've run most of the hills round here now, I just remind myself that I can do it, focus on the next few paces rather than the whole hill, and slow down if I need to. I've heard that if you're targetting a point to run to, you should pick a point past the brow of the hill then by the time you get there your legs won't be feeling too bad and you'll be more likely to carry on.

I do try to run all my hills now because I feel like I've done the run/walk thing for long enough and I want to run my next marathon without walk breaks (in my dreams!) so I'm focussing on keeping going however slow, but until fairly recently I did take walk breaks, particularly on hills. Sometimes in a race I look at all the people struggling to run past me up a hill, smug in the knowledge that if I walk up it I'll then have more energy to overtake them on the way back down, and I won't lose that much time getting up it as long as I do start running again as soon as I can.

02-27-2007, 04:39 PM
For downhill, the advice I got was to approach it like a child, let your legs go and go "weeeeeeeee" all the way down. However, that might not be the best way of avoiding injury...

Seriously, it has seemed easier since I let myself go faster on downhills. I used to be really scared of falling if I did them too fast, now I just let myself go and I haven't come to any harm yet.

02-27-2007, 08:23 PM
I always go slow downhill, the steeper the slower, its hard on the knees. dh runs up the steep hills and walks down them. Make sure you bend your knees more when you go down.

Well...its been most of the month but I ran 3 days last week and once this week without tape.

I am tentatively back at about 50%- oh and since it seems to be the topic..I am banned from hills for awhile.

02-27-2007, 11:35 PM
When we run downhill my running coach tells us to relax and to just kinda fall down the hill and go with it... she tells us to put our arms on our sides, relax our shoulders, our faces and let our whole bodies go down the hill... We don't do this all the time but it seems to help us relax when going down certain hills... We did it tonight this is what reminded me of this game we play when we go down a hill...

7k tonight it was awesome, prefect weather 1C, sunny and gorgeous!! YAY Spring is coming :sunny:

02-28-2007, 11:08 AM
3.5 today, but tough because I am practicing a new running form. Apparently since pregnancies I am now a pronator. I used to be a suppinator. My arches fell during the first pregnancy.

Focusing on pulling up and open at the top of the hip bone, I can see where having no abs yet is contributing to the problem.

Sweater Girl
02-28-2007, 11:58 AM
Ah yes, I just finished a 4-week session of hill training (I don't hate it since I know it works.... but I am not the biggest fan of them). My next session will be in April.

Anyway there is absolutely nothing wrong with starting off walking up hills. Maybe after a while do 1 min of running, 1 min of walking up the hill and then increase the mins of running (depending on the length of the hill). If you don't ever want to run hills that's okay too. The important thing is that you're out there!!

I will be doing my next 10K in 2.5 weeks (The St. Patty's Day run in Ottawa)! I am really looking forward to it. I don't care about the temperature, I just hope it isn't raining or snowing and the wind isn't too bad!



02-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Hi you guys.

Thanks for all the downhill advice. I made a big leap in running today. Today is the first time in my whole life that I have ever run 2 miles in a row without stopping. I wasn't planning to do this but I did and I feel just great.

I have a country road which is about a half mile long and this is how I measure distance. I had planned to run a mile take a break and run another mile. However today my neighbors dogs were out.

So I cut it a hair short so that the whole thing was just under a mile but I really wanted to do a mile so I trudged back up the road (one way is significantly more uphill than the other) then when I was up I figured I'd go back down and by that time I was so darned close to two miles that I figured I'd just go for it.

Running in the snow is absolutely awesome. I had visions of moving to Alaska. The best past of todays run was that I was out on completely fresh snow. It was beautiful no ugly tire tracks from cars.

02-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Well done on two miles! That's a great milestone.

I had a half decent 7.4 mile run tonight. My stomach was playing up all the way round, but my pace was actually pretty much spot on so it didn't seem to affect me too much.

As I was going downhill I was trying to work out how I run it. I think I lengthen my stride slightly, using gravity to pull me that bit further between steps. I guess it reduces the impact a bit if you hit the ground less often ;)

02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
I ran 4 miles tonight with a group of three other women. We all ended up taking a few walk breaks. I was seriously tired and stressed out from the very rough week I'm having at school (could my students be more awful lately? probably not...)

I think I'm figuring something out about my running lately. A pattern or something. My first mile and a half or so is always hard, because I'm adjusting, and then in mile three I feel GOOD. After that, though, forget it. I'm SPENT! So if I quit after 3 miles, I feel great, but if I keep going I end up feeling like crap. I guess it's going to take me a while to adjust to a longer distance. Or maybe I'm just a 3-mile kind of girl!

02-28-2007, 10:25 PM
It is good to see so many people posting!

I attempted a 2 miler tonight, nice and easy. I suppose I should finish my antibiotics first, because I just about passed out when I got back home. I'll be resting for a few more days.


03-01-2007, 02:00 PM
WAAAAAH I am sick again. No gym today. I need to get back on track soon, I already registered for the hal-mary and talked a new runner into it.

03-01-2007, 08:26 PM
ennay, I hope you get better soon!! What is the hal-mary?

I wasn't going to run tonight, but I decided to do a speed interval thingie on the treadmill. I think that's going to be my Thursday thing now. I did 2.5 miles at a 12:00 pace with 40-second intervals at a 10:20 pace, which for me is really fast. It felt pretty good!

03-02-2007, 04:39 AM
I do my intervals on a Friday. I tend to mix the routine up a bit, but today it was 3 minutes slow/3 fast/3 slow etc etc for 35 minutes. I always make the last fast a sprint finish and increase the speed on the treadmill every 30 seconds, for the others I go up 0.1km/hour each cycle of slow/fast (e.g. 11.1/12.1/11.2/12.2 etc). I ended up doing just under 7k in 35 minutes which was my best speed session yet.

Long run tomorrow, I'm planning somewhere between 18 and 20 miles. Fingers crossed for good weather!