Veggie Challenged - Can you still lose weight if you hate veggies?!?




countrymomof2
01-27-2007, 04:04 PM
Hello.. I absolutly hate veggies. I get some servings in if I eat them in like canned soup.. which Im sure is not healthy eather. The only veggies I eat now are corn, potatoes, sometimes as long as they are cooked and in a stew or something else I can handle carrots. Otherwise I dont eat veggies at all. Now, Im a big fresh fruit person, is that ok? I just started out calorie counting. Any advice anyone? Thanks!


kaplods
01-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Have you tried "hiding" veggies in meatloaves and pasta sauces (even cutting them really small or grinding them first, if it helps)? V-8 juice as a soup base? Cooking them with meat? Stir fries? Eating raw veggies with dip (even if you have to start with a dip or salad dressing that may not be the healthiest).

There are thin and even underweight people who don't eat a balanced diet, so sure you can lose weight without eating vegetables, but you might want to talk to a nutritionist since you're nearly cutting out an entire food group. Corn and potatoes, and to a lesser degree peas and carrots, have more in common with bread and grains than other vegetables, and you're not getting many of the "green" nutrients with most fruits, either.

MicheleKC
01-27-2007, 07:53 PM
I think that fruit is not a substitute for the veggies. You won't want to know this. Maybe if you've ever had fresh steamed veggies you would like them better than veggies out of a can, which can be salty and whimpy and limp. I guess I'm weird because I like green veggies. My family is Italian-American. We always kept a garden even though we lived in an inner-city. It really helped me appreciate and enjoy fresh veggies. I don't have much time now for fresh, but my freezer is stocked with frozen, which are just as good if not better. And there's no prep work.

Try eating veggies in their purest state, just tossed lightly with some olive oil. Get rid of the creamy or goopy stuff, and the veggies might actually taste better to you.

There's nothing like a greenbean salad. Just put some greenbeans in a bowl mixed with vinegar and oil and a little salt and pepper. Let them marinate overnight in the fridge. They will taste delicous!!!

Marinating, roasting, steaming, and grilling veggies really brings out the flavor, while keeping in all of the nutrients. Veggies are only meant to be cooked until they are just tender, not wilted, like some people cook them.

Flavor veggies with herbs, like rosemary, cilantro, basil, etc. Have you ever tasted tomatoes with basil? So good. Mushrooms with rosemary? Yummy.

Please change your mind about eating veggies. You will grow to love them if you prepare them in a variety of ways.


Obsidianbbw
01-27-2007, 08:14 PM
If you don't like veggies you don't like veggies. :D
ok, I am no expert, but since I wasn't a big fruit or veggie person I thought I would chime in. I kept trying things till I found something I could eat. I live on pears. Maybe not the best thing but it got me to eat fruit regularly. With my veggies I kept trying different things until I found things I liked. I hate spinach generally, but I realized if I sauteed it with olive oil and garlic it was kind of ok. You might also want to try cooking things different ways. I also have a new fondness for the frozen pack of mixed vegetables. I take a 16 oz bag, put in a pot with a a little water, a little butter, salt and pepper (the butter and salt might be too much, but you can make you own choices).

Last I am not big on eating veggies with nothing on them. I either need a little butter, or olive oil flavored with some kind of spice or seasoning (cumin, cilantro, turmeric). Also you might want to try some "ethnic" dishes. They tend to be more flavorful and you can always reduce any fat added. Collard greens come to mind.

Ok, hope that helps.

-Obie:^:

Hello.. I absolutely hate veggies. I get some servings in if I eat them in like canned soup.. which Im sure is not healthy eather. The only veggies I eat now are corn, potatoes, sometimes as long as they are cooked and in a stew or something else I can handle carrots. Otherwise I dont eat veggies at all. Now, Im a big fresh fruit person, is that ok? I just started out calorie counting. Any advice anyone? Thanks!

Nicker
02-19-2007, 06:40 PM
I don't care for veggies either nor fruit. I do like bannans and I do like to eat salad therefor I eat a few heads of lettuce every week. However I hate things like carrots or celery in my salad. (I DETEST celery unless it is in a Caesar) I do like tomatoes on certain things as well as cucumbers. As far as fruit goes Bananas. I love bananas and eat usually one a day. Sometimes I will buy other fresh fruit and swear I will eat it this time. It usually always goes bad on me. I recently bought some fruit+ veggie source bars and fruit to go strips. They help a bit. I love this broccoli casserole that I used to make but I don't want to know how much fat and calories were in it... (with the cheese and mushroom soup and miracle whip and cheese flavoured crackers)

If I make low fat muffins I try to add some fruit to them. For example I made low fat bran muffins and threw in some bluberries I bought fresh last summer and froze.

Another thing I do is that I make sure I take a daily multivitamin as well as calcium supplements.

ennay
02-19-2007, 07:51 PM
My husband hates chunks of cooked veggies. However, when I bought an immersion blender and started pureeing homemade soup he loved it. I can toss almost any veggie in there and puree it and he'll eat it (I use plenty of seasoning and spice)

BlueToBlue
02-19-2007, 10:39 PM
My SO also thought he didn't like veggies and it's true that he doesn't like most of the standards (no broccoli, cauliflower, squash, tomatoes, eggplant, mushrooms, spinach, brussels sprouts, cabbage). But by experimenting with new and less traditional vegetables, I found lots of veggies that he does like (fennel, chard, kale, parsnips, turnips, celeriac, edamame, fava beans, okra). There are literally hundreds of vegetables--maybe you can find some you like if you start experimenting.

kaplods
02-20-2007, 03:02 AM
I've always loved fruits and veggies. When I was younger, I was fat, but ate a balanced (but high-cal) diet, and was active. I swam and went to the gym regularly, and felt good. My weight didn't get in the way of doing most of the things I wanted to do.

Now, I have health problems caused or worsened by my weight. The weight caught up to me as I got older (as everyone tells you it will, but you never believe because you're young and stupid). Eating a poor diet affects health the same way. You can be thin with no fruits and vegetables, but you can't be healthy, and it very well may catch up with you eventually.

As Barbara mentioned, there are hundreds of veggies you can try, and hundreds of ways to prepare them. There is bound to be some combination you enjoy. Think of finding them as an adventure. Almost like finding a good man - you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find the prince. A grocery or health food store with a salad bar, would give you a chance to try several without spending a lot of money.

jillybean720
03-11-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm sure this thread is long dead, but I just happened across it, so...

Yes, you can lose weight without veggies. I hate almost all veggies. I can choke down some broccoli if it's cooked in some type of sauce, and I can handle lettuce, baby spinach, and cucumber in salads, but other than that (and the non-veggie-like potatoes and corn), I'm at a loss.

And it's certainly not for lack of trying. I've tried nearly every veggie I could find in the produce section--I've tried fresh, canned, frozen, cooked (steamed, microwaved, boiled, baked/roasted, grilled...), raw (plain, with dip/dressing, in salads...)--I agree a million percent with Obsidianbbw: "If you don't like veggies, you don't like veggies. :D"

I have been able to hide some veggies, though, to try to sneak them into my diet without literally gagging at the flavor/texture (yes, most veggies make me actually physically gag). I now like to thicken up pasta sauce by taking a small box of frozen chopped spinach, thawing it, and pureeing it and adding to my sauce. I can't taste it at all, and it's barely even visible (just makes the sauce darker). I also sometimes like to add salsa to meals (especially chicken or as a salad dressing)--it's not much, but it does have some chopped veggies in it that have been soaking in that jar for so long I can barely taste them :p

Of course, not all veggie-hiding experiments have gone so well. I made a pizza and put some peppers on it--I mixed them into the sauce and then covered them with the cheese, so I thought maybe since I couldn't see them, I wouldn't even know they were there. Wrong. I could taste the bitterness from a mile away and ended up picking them all out of my slices :devil:

But it's all trial and error. I've been alive and nutritionally healthy (bar being overweight) for over 20 years without eating enough vegetables (I've actually found that I now even dislike some veggies I liked when I was younger, like peas).

I do love fruit, though, so even though it's not a substitue, at least I'm getting in something healthy ;)

nelie
03-12-2007, 11:11 AM
I agree that if you don't like veggies, then you shouldn't force yourself to eat things you know you don't like.

For me though, I've grown to love veggies. As few as 5 years ago, I didn't eat very many veggies at all, especially by themselves. But I started eating veggies I knew I liked more often. Then I would try different veggies, cooked different ways and then I realized that I was learning to love veggies. I also never ate spinach but now I eat spinach fairly often.

One of my favorite way to eat veggies is to roast them. Broccoli roasted is divine, especially mixed with some onions. Anyway, I say don't force yourself but give yourself a chance to experiment if you haven't already. If you had told me 5 years ago that I'd be eating 3-4 servings of veggies every day, I would've told you that you were crazy.

kaplods
03-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Maybe it is possible to "make up the difference" with a wide variety of fruits, seeds, nuts, grains and possibly supplements, but I think it would take some awareness and effort, so a dietician could be a great help (or at least a few good books on nutrition, so you understand the long term effects of what you're missing)

I think if you're going to eliminate any food group, or a large part of it, you probably should at least take a daily vitamin and seek professional advice. The human body is fairly resistant (some people's more than others) and can function, if not thrive on a terribly unbalanced diet. That doesn't mean it's a good idea. A vegetable-free diet increases your risk of digestive illnesses, cancer, vitamin deficiencies, and other health problems, many of which won't show up until middle age. If you're going to take the risks, you should at least understand them.

LLV
03-17-2007, 11:46 AM
You can lose weight eating ANYTHING. As long as you don't eat too much of it.

One of the "diet" sayings is this; it's not what you eat but how much.

I wholeheartedly agree with that. However it's better for your body to make healthy choices.

I like the others' suggestions of hiding the veggies in your other foods. Ground up carrots, zucchini, spinach, etc, in meatloaf. Maybe mash up some cooked cauliflower into your mashed potatoes. Trust me, you won't even know it's there. And yes, pasta sauce is a GREAT place to hide veggies. Like Jill said, you can't even taste it. You can even puree (or chop up real fine) things like broccoli and put that in pasta sauce as well, or stick it in a pan of lasagna.

:)

kaplods
03-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Anyone remember the hotdog and banana diet? Nine hot dogs on "even" days, and Nine bananas on "odd" days. Yuck!!! I don't even remember if I actually went on the diet (but maybe, as they're both at the bottom of my food preference list).

I've always "liked" a lot of vegetables, but now I LOVE them - mostly because I feel STARVED on my alotted calories without them. I'd be willing to eat cardboard with a little light ranch dressing, some days.

LLV
03-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Anyone remember the hotdog and banana diet? Nine hot dogs on "even" days, and Nine bananas on "odd" days.

Oh my gosh, never heard of that one.

It would depend on what kind of hot dogs you eat. If I would eat the regular beef/pork franks, which are approximately 180 calories each, that would put me over my daily calorie limit. But, of course, I buy the Ballpark all white meat turkey franks. They're only 45 calories each and no fat. So if I ate 9 of those, I wouldn't be getting enough calories.

And 9 bananas??? I would think you'd have a slight constipation problem :lol:

LLV
03-17-2007, 06:01 PM
Just another suggestion, you can also buy jars of baby food (the vegetables) and that too you can toss into sauces, meatloaves, stews, soups, just about anything you're cooking. If you're really wanting to sneak in veggie nutrients without actually having to eat them.

kaplods
03-18-2007, 12:02 AM
If I remember right, the hotdog & banana diet, might have been in a "diet book," my mom brought home when I was maybe 12 (so that would be around 1978), and it might have included another food, like eggs. Yeah, I think that was actually it, the foods changed every three days and the third day was boiled eggs (I think egg day would be harder on the um, digestive system, than banana day).

LLV
03-18-2007, 02:21 PM
If I remember right, the hotdog & banana diet, might have been in a "diet book," my mom brought home when I was maybe 12 (so that would be around 1978), and it might have included another food, like eggs. Yeah, I think that was actually it, the foods changed every three days and the third day was boiled eggs (I think egg day would be harder on the um, digestive system, than banana day).

:fr:

I would NOT want to sleep with the person who's eaten eggs all day, LOL.

phantastica
03-18-2007, 10:03 PM
I eat probably 4 servings of vegetables a day. In today's diet of rich, refined-carb, high-fat, high-fructose-corn-syrup processed foods, vegetables seem boring and plain. They did to me, for many years. I ate them anyway, because I was always taught by my family to "eat your vegetables". If you can tolerate some of them, I think you will acquire the taste to eat them more and end up even adding other ones to your diet.

They're easy to grow, easy to eat and/or prepare, and I'd rather eat them now than choke down pills for poor health later.

rockinrobin
03-18-2007, 11:31 PM
I think you can lose weight if you don't eat veggies. Because of course the bottom line is calories in vs. calories out. Just not sure how nutritious it would be and how sustainable it would be for longterm success. But it certainly is possible.

But not for me. It would in fact be impossible. I like volume. I am currently eating between 1200 -1300 calories. There is no way for me to eat lots of food and stick to those numbers. Plus I am getting lots of fiber from all the veggies, another boon to weightloss. And then of course I am getting lots of nutrients, something I am equally concerned with. I am so very fortunate to really, really like vegetables. Funny thing is I always liked them, even when I was 287 lbs. Now of course I actually EAT them. For lunch and dinner in large quantities. It replaced the large quantities of white rice I ate almost daily for dinner and the garbage I was eating for lunch. Oh gosh, I never wanna go there again. I'm sticking with my veggies. For sure.

There really are lots and lots of veggies to choose from and many different ways to prepare them. I think with patience one can really find something that they like. If they are interested enough in doing so. Hopefully, anyway.

BeezKnees
03-19-2007, 01:08 AM
You can lose weight by following all sorts of weird diets. I had a friend who consumed nothing by Dr Pepper and dropped weight like mad. (Oh wait. That was a front. She was doing speed. Never mind!) And then there's the cabbage soup diet - you know, the one where you eat nothing but that soup, and other weird combos each day, like bananas and milk. But it's not usually sustainable. Cuz it's not a lifestyle change. :p

jillybean720
03-19-2007, 07:08 AM
There really are lots and lots of veggies to choose from and many different ways to prepare them. I think with patience one can really find something that they like. If they are interested enough in doing so. Hopefully, anyway.
The problem for me is that of the ridiculous number of veggies (and cooking styles) I have tried, I have found maybe 2-3 veggies I actually can tolerate without literally gagging. It's just not reasonable to think I can eat those same 2 veggies (broccoli with sauce and spaghetti squash with sauce) every single day.

I think for me, part of the problem is the texture, really. I slipped some sliced bell peppers into a pasta sauce a couple of weeks ago thinking they would be pretty well hidden in the sauce, so I would hardly notice them. Wrong. I bit into a few and almost, ahem, completely lost my dinner :dizzy:

But like I said, I'm 24, and I've never eaten many veggies in my life and have yet to have a blood test come back with any sort of deficiency, so I think I'll survive. I really do wish I liked them--would make weight loss just that much easier to be able to bulk up my food with lots of veggies. But as it is now, I can't even eat a salad without a ton of heavy, creamy dressing (I don't like vinegarettes or anything else runny or oily).

rockinrobin
03-19-2007, 08:03 AM
This is how twisted I am Jilly. And how obsessed with 3FC I am. I swear to you I was actually thinking of you when I posted this. Is that not normal?

I know you don't like veggies. And that's why I said hopefully everyone can find something they like. Hopefully. And that's why I said I am so fortunate that I DO like them. Because quite frankly if I didn't like them I really don't think I could eat them. In fact I know I couldn't. And I would never have been able to lose the weight that I have if I didn't eat them. IMO, it really does make weightloss easier. That's not to say that I think it is impossible to lose weight without them, because I surely don''t believe that.

Jilly, one more thing. You said you don't like vinegarettes. Have you ever tried your salad not dressed at all? That might be an option. Or to have it with cut up grilled chicken or a can of tuna broken up. That adds lots of flavor with no dressing. But if I know you, you've probably tried it that way. Just a thought.

ennay
03-19-2007, 09:21 AM
Jilly - if it is texture puree puree puree--dont try and slip chunks into sauce

jillybean720
03-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Jilly, one more thing. You said you don't like vinegarettes. Have you ever tried your salad not dressed at all? That might be an option. Or to have it with cut up grilled chicken or a can of tuna broken up. That adds lots of flavor with no dressing. But if I know you, you've probably tried it that way. Just a thought.
haha, yes, I've tried salads without dressings. I couldn't choke down more than a bite or 2. Sooooo flavorless--yuck. And I've tried with chicken (not a bug fan of tuna), and I've tried lemon juice and I've tried salsa and I've tried seasonings :dizzy: Salads are not my friend because the only way I like them enough to eat a whole salad is when it's chock full of unhealthy stuff :devil: 1000-calories salads are friendly for my tastebuds, but not so much my waistline ;)

I'm so picky...I do puree spinach sometimes to add to my pasta sauce, so that is one thing I can hide well, but I can only eat so much pasta sauce in a week :p

I have been forcing myself to eat the veggies in my frozen entrees. When I take a bite of, say, snap pea with rice and sauce and chicken, I can stomach it, but I make sure to eat all the veggies first or else I won't eat them at all. I also now choose the blue line of Lean Cuisines (don't remember what they're called--spa something, I think) because they use brown rice and whole-grain pastas and such, which makes me feel a little better about eating a frozen meal in the first place.

MariaMaria
03-19-2007, 03:23 PM
I'm not a big fan of salads, either. Cooked vegetables, though, work for me.

What's the texture, specifically, that you can't stand, Jillybean?

jillybean720
03-19-2007, 03:56 PM
What's the texture, specifically, that you can't stand, Jillybean?
The vegetable texture :p I don't like peppers, celery, onions (unless tiny pieces or sauteed to practically mush), tomatoes (technically a fruit, I know, but I still don't like 'em). Those are just ones where I really don't like the texture (not that I like the flavor, either, but the texture turns me off before I even get the full flavor taste, ya know?). I tried snacking on raw pepper slices a few times and couldn't make it past a single strip (and I was so excited and proud that I'd bought and tried green, yellow, orange, AND red peppers :dizzy: ).

I have to mention something funny from my lunch today--I had a Healthy CHoice meal, and it was manicotti with broccoli and a fruit dessert. When I peeled back the plastic after microwaving it, I had to laugh at their idea of a serving of vegetables. There were literally 6 small pieces of broccoli in the veggie compartment. 6--I counted them. And they were not big busshy florets--they were tiny little ones. I just thought that was pretty sad, and I don't even LIKE veggies! :p

kaplods
03-19-2007, 04:39 PM
I remember in college biology and psychology, we learned that there might be a biological "window of opportunity," to food preferences for many mammals including humans. Since plant-eating mammals have to teach their offspring what is "ok," to eat, it is very difficult for them in adulthood to learn to try a new food unless they're starving, and even then to go back to familiar foods once they're available again. Research with rats showed this, and human behavior seems to be this way as well.

My sister-in-law eats very few vegetables, and consciously or not, she's passing it on to her children. I nearly whacked her, when her son (about 3 at the time) at our house dunked a raw carrot in dip and was bringing it to his lips, and she took it out of his hand and said "you don't like carrots." I asked her why she didn't let him try it, and she said he would just spit it out once he tasted it. Maybe she was right, but it would have been better for him to taste it and spit it out, than to never try it.

jillybean720
03-19-2007, 05:10 PM
Wow, Colleen, I totally agree with you--let the kid try it! If he doesn't like it, no harm done, but there could be potantially long-term harm in not letting him try it.

It's weird--I used to eat more veggies when I was little. I remember liking cooked peas and cooked carrots, at least. Now, I can't stand either. I also know our taste buds can change, though, so every one in a while I try things agian, even if I remember not having liked them before.

tleef
06-08-2007, 03:32 PM
I grew up without really eating a lot of veggies. Most dinners came with corn or carrots or peas (which I still don't eat as they are), but as I've gotten older I've accepted some new veggies and the ones I don't like I eat them totally hidden. I have a company in town that purees organic veggies into baby food and then they flash freeze it into ice cubes. I can add these ice cubes of broccoli, , beets, squash, peas, green beans, pumpkin, etc. to just about anything including pasta sauces, chilli and soup bases. I can even thaw one out and throw it in my morning shake and I don't even notice it. Sometimes I'll put one in a smoothy with berries, splenda, milk, banana and again I don't taste it at all. When I have time I make the cubes myself now but I'm so grateful I found their product so I realized I could do that as I'd never have thought of it. I probably consume 6-8 servings a day of fruits/veggies and I'd say about 2-4 of those are hidden, sometimes more. You can make your own ice cubes to add to recipes, just steam the veggies until they're very soft and then throw them in a food processor and add a little of the water you used for steaming until you have a paste like consistency, put them in an icecube tray and freeze. Once they're frozen thrown them in a ziplock bag and make your next batch. You can do this with fruit as well. When I do fruit I mix it up, strawberries/bananas, apples/raspberry, pear/pumpkin, etc. Maybe if you try it this way you can actually get your veggies in and they'll help to thicken sauces etc, without a ton of calories.

Cheers, Tamara

Casandra
06-09-2007, 07:08 AM
You can make your own ice cubes to add to recipes, just steam the veggies until they're very soft and then throw them in a food processor and add a little of the water you used for steaming until you have a paste like consistency, put them in an icecube tray and freeze.


Getting this step right is essential. When you boil or steam vegetables, the nutrients seep out of the veg itself and into the water. Without adding the actual cooking water, you'll lose a very large portion of the nutrients that go hand in hand with vegetables.

I myself hate most vegetables, and broccoli is indeed my favourite. I've researched different ways I can encorporate broccoli into my daily meals so I get tons of variety, with the same vegetable. You can try out different recipe websites such as allrecipes.com!