Did you know that most of you exhibit these? That most people are exhibiting classic symptoms of these ailments?
Wanna know how I know?
Meet Dr. Quack - as my DH and I call him.
We were looking for a new doctor a few years ago. Ours retired. (dag nabbit). We looked on the insurance site and found one in our town. He went first. He came home saying he wasn't sure how he felt about the doctor. I was in school then and getting ready for my law class final and didn't want to concentrate on his comments. I told him to not tell me anything so I could go in and form my own opinion. He was getting ready to go camping for a long weekend. I gladly sent him away so I could study. I had an appt with this new dr on one of the days my DH was gone. When he came home from camping, I practically dragged him out the truck window!
This Dr. Quack told us both that we needed to be on "medication". He dispensed it there in his office. I asked him the name of it and he rattled off the Latin name and wouldn't repeat it. I told him I would like to research it and he told me that anything I read in a book or on the internet would probably be wrong and that I should rely on him for "acurate" information.
Wanna know why you may be exhibiting classic symptoms?
1) Not eating breakfast. During those days, I didn't. I do now but not because of Dr. Quack.
2) Consuming caffeine. This will include decaf beverages as well because there are small amounts of caffeine in them.
3) Consuming alcohol. I asked him about people who toast in the new year or have a toast at a wedding and never drink any other alcohol. He informed me that if alcohol had ever crossed your lips at any time in your life, that the symptoms are lying below the surface.
4) Drugs and smoking. I thought he meant illegal drugs. NOPE! He meant any drugs that another dr. had prescribed because they weren't treating the patient to be a "normal" person. HUH?
So, for those of you who do not eat breakfast, drink coffee, tea or soda, have ever toasted in the new year or someone at a wedding and/or take drugs, even prescribed ones, you need his "medication". Take your pick. You only need one of these.
He said the "normal" person doesn't have peaks and valleys. They see the world on a level plane. I told him that I liked laughing at something that is funny and I like reading a book or seeing a sad movie and having a good cry with their situation. I didn't think that put me in some sort of weird place. He told me that I was wrong.
What scares me is that he has a family practice. He sees patients from the very young to the very old. I wonder how many of those people are on his "medication".
Oh, we RAN from that guy and filed a complaint with the insurance company.
What a wacko! Unfortunately, many doctors these days seem to be just a slightly less wacko version of this guy. It's insane that so many people are on medications -- I've had doctors try to prescribe medications for me and I've simply said no way. They're ready to throw an antidepressant at you even if you're not depressed, and they think that's what you came for anyway. I for one would rather NOT throw a bunch of extra chemicals in my body if I can regulate my emotions through diet, exercise, and just DEALING with them. Of course some people have serious problems with depression and need medication -- but not EVERY single person who goes through a doctor's door.
Everyone seems to want to be on an even keel all the time. Well, you know what? That's not normal. We're supposed to have ups and downs -- it's called being alive!! I don't want to be numb!
Wow, really WEIRD "medical advice"! I'd complain to the AMA or the state licensing board, not just the insurance company. I'd check to see if he's had malpractice suits or had his licensing revoked. That is really not typical of most doctors.
I would *never* see a doctor a second time who told me I had to trust him for everything. I just know too much and know where to find information!
Hmmmm And I thought the OBgyn. I knew in texas was Dr. Quack, must be his brother.
He was the ONLY OBGyn in the entire city of Austin who was on our medical plan and accepting new patients. I worked for a rather large company so I knew LOTS of people who had gone to him at least once.
According to him:
If you are under 5'3" you are too short to risk even being allowed to attempt a normal delivery and if you should ever become pregnant a c-section would be scheduled at 37 weeks during your first appt.
If you are under 120 lbs......too petite
If you are over 160 lbs...too obese
over 5'9 ..too large boned
If you gain more than 30 lbs during the pregnancy the baby will be too big and we will just do a C
If you gain less than 20 the baby is too fragile and we will just do a C
If you have ANY complications including (but not limited to) Gestational Diabetes, Edema, moderately elevated blood pressure, etc. then we need to do a C
And if you are over 40 then we really need to do a hysterectomy before your uterus gives you some real problems.
Quack quack. Barstard just didnt like to get up at 3 am to deliver a baby and surgery pays better.
So most people I knew paid the out of network fee to go to a real doc. Which with a baby is expensive.
I went to my doctor for my annual check-up, pap etc. I went back three weeks later with an ear infection and she asked if I needed a vaginal exam. Uh, no thank you. I went back 6 months later for issues with blood clotting in my legs and she asked if I needed a vaginal exam. Really, no thank you. She called me at home on a Saturday (the office isn't even open on Saturdays) to see how I was doing about 2 months after the blood clot problem but during the call never even asked about the clotting or the ear infection. What did she ask? When was I due for my next annual exam. I changed doctors.
This Dr. Quack told us both that we needed to be on "medication". He dispensed it there in his office. I asked him the name of it and he rattled off the Latin name and wouldn't repeat it. I told him I would like to research it and he told me that anything I read in a book or on the internet would probably be wrong and that I should rely on him for "acurate" information.
There is a lot of crap on the internet. A susceptible person could be convinced to do all kinds of silly things by what they read. Sadly we often do not study the source of our information. The name should be written on the container. That's law, isn't it?
I am under the impression that, if you have an actual chemical imbalance that causes depression, medications will work. If you don't, they won't. Trying meds can be diagnostic.
Wanna know why you may be exhibiting classic symptoms?
1) Not eating breakfast. During those days, I didn't. I do now but not because of Dr. Quack.
True. Dropping blood sugar can cause moodiness and depression like symptoms. 2) Consuming caffeine. This will include decaf beverages as well because there are small amounts of caffeine in them.
True. Caffeine can cause 'ups' and withdrawl can cause 'moody downs'. 3) Consuming alcohol. I asked him about people who toast in the new year or have a toast at a wedding and never drink any other alcohol. He informed me that if alcohol had ever crossed your lips at any time in your life, that the symptoms are lying below the surface.
True-ish. Alcohol can make some folks quiet, introspective and depress-y. You'd be surprised how many people, upon questioning will insist they do not drink much when if fact they drink almost every day. 4) Drugs and smoking. I thought he meant illegal drugs. NOPE! He meant any drugs that another dr. had prescribed because they weren't treating the patient to be a "normal" person. HUH?
True. Lots of medications can cause depression like side effects. The ordinary man on the street knows little about drug interactions and pays little attention to drug bottle warnings. Smoking can indeed cause blood sugar swings, which in turn can cause mood swings.
This though is a little hard for me to explain .... a specialist thinks you have been sent to him for a specific reason. An endocrinologistic probably trusts that your family doc thinks you have endocrine issues. He'll study your endocrine issues. A cardiologist will study your cardiology issues. A family doctor is more apt to be a general practitioner, treating you ... as a body ... in general ... as a family member etc. The specialist is less likely to take into consideration other aspects of your life. I'm a little uncomfortable typng that. Above all else a specailist should be able to tell you what disorders and life-style practices mimic endocrinology issues. But perhaps you get my drift about the 'whole person'???
He said the "normal" person doesn't have peaks and valleys.
This, I have issue with. I wish wish wish that you misunderstood him, however ... he may be a poor communicator (which I think is abundantly clear in this case). Humans are emotional. It's a blessing and we should embrace it. The elation of beholding a newborn. The grief associated with the passing of a loved one. It's all good!
When we run into trouble is when our emotions are not appropriate. They last too long ... spike and fall too quickly ... have no reasonable explanation ... fear invades our lives ... anger alienates us.
So ... while I do not think this particular doc is a total quack, I do think he has some learning to do in the communications department. If you cannot talk to your family doc, who can you talk to?
My general response is ... if you have a choice, find a doctor with whom you feel comfortable. He should listen to you without saying 'no' arbitrarily. While mine does not necessarily agree with some of my health-food notions, we can work together.
And that's what it's really about, working together with a health-care team to optimise your health.
Ennay,
That makes me speechless, and I thought I had heard it all. I understand that a few years ago, midwives were systematically driven from Austin's hospitals...and yet this guy has privileges.
I agree that people need to have a health care provider they can talk to honestly and get accurate information from in return.
Sometimes stories like these motivate me to go out and make a difference and sometimes they make me wonder why I even bother...like it is a lost cause. Guess cbmare's fp doc should put me on some meds, huh?
This Dr. Quack told us both that we needed to be on "medication". He dispensed it there in his office. I asked him the name of it and he rattled off the Latin name and wouldn't repeat it. I told him I would like to research it and he told me that anything I read in a book or on the internet would probably be wrong and that I should rely on him for "acurate" information.
There is a lot of crap on the internet. A susceptible person could be convinced to do all kinds of silly things by what they read. Sadly we often do not study the source of our information. The name should be written on the container. That's law, isn't it?
I am under the impression that, if you have an actual chemical imbalance that causes depression, medications will work. If you don't, they won't. Trying meds can be diagnostic.I agree with you. However, I'd like more than 5 minutes talking with him. I left that out in my post. How can he know me in 5 minutes? There is crap on the internet. However, there are things like a PDR as well. Being told I should not research it scares me.
Wanna know why you may be exhibiting classic symptoms?
1) Not eating breakfast. During those days, I didn't. I do now but not because of Dr. Quack.
True. Dropping blood sugar can cause moodiness and depression like symptoms.Again, I agree. But I agree with your reasoning. 2) Consuming caffeine. This will include decaf beverages as well because there are small amounts of caffeine in them.
True. Caffeine can cause 'ups' and withdrawl can cause 'moody downs'.But enough to require "medication"? 3) Consuming alcohol. I asked him about people who toast in the new year or have a toast at a wedding and never drink any other alcohol. He informed me that if alcohol had ever crossed your lips at any time in your life, that the symptoms are lying below the surface.
True-ish. Alcohol can make some folks quiet, introspective and depress-y. You'd be surprised how many people, upon questioning will insist they do not drink much when if fact they drink almost every day.Again, I agree with you. However, his was a blanket assumption. I don't feel that someone having 1 glass of something at a wedding is a reason for them to be put on his "medication". 4) Drugs and smoking. I thought he meant illegal drugs. NOPE! He meant any drugs that another dr. had prescribed because they weren't treating the patient to be a "normal" person. HUH?
True. Lots of medications can cause depression like side effects. The ordinary man on the street knows little about drug interactions and pays little attention to drug bottle warnings. Smoking can indeed cause blood sugar swings, which in turn can cause mood swings.
This though is a little hard for me to explain .... a specialist thinks you have been sent to him for a specific reason. An endocrinologistic probably trusts that your family doc thinks you have endocrine issues. He'll study your endocrine issues. A cardiologist will study your cardiology issues. A family doctor is more apt to be a general practitioner, treating you ... as a body ... in general ... as a family member etc. The specialist is less likely to take into consideration other aspects of your life. I'm a little uncomfortable typng that. Above all else a specailist should be able to tell you what disorders and life-style practices mimic endocrinology issues. But perhaps you get my drift about the 'whole person'???Yes I do. But for him to overwhelmingly dismiss what someone else put you on and tell you that his "medication" will take care of those other things is just plain wrong. Someone on heart medication shouldn't just stop it because he wants to give you his "medication", This could be fatal.
He said the "normal" person doesn't have peaks and valleys.
This, I have issue with. I wish wish wish that you misunderstood him, however ... he may be a poor communicator (which I think is abundantly clear in this case). Humans are emotional. It's a blessing and we should embrace it. The elation of beholding a newborn. The grief associated with the passing of a loved one. It's all good!
When we run into trouble is when our emotions are not appropriate. They last too long ... spike and fall too quickly ... have no reasonable explanation ... fear invades our lives ... anger alienates us.Funny you should mention the death of a loved one. I told him that I was widowed at a young age. I told him I was sad about that and that I cried but that I couldn't dwell on it because I had 2 kids, 10 and under, and I had to pick myself up and keep going. He said that with his "medication", I would have accepted the entire thing with no emotions. I have a big problem with this. Part of those emotions are the grieving process.
So ... while I do not think this particular doc is a total quack, I do think he has some learning to do in the communications department. If you cannot talk to your family doc, who can you talk to?
My general response is ... if you have a choice, find a doctor with whom you feel comfortable. He should listen to you without saying 'no' arbitrarily. While mine does not necessarily agree with some of my health-food notions, we can work together.
And that's what it's really about, working together with a health-care team to optimise your health.
Thanks for your input. I can understand your interpretation of his reasons. I just don't agree that people should arbitrarily be put on "medication" because they fit into 1 of these categories. People should not be taken off heart and other meds without tests. I think these depression meds can be dangerous if not monitored. They should not be given to all people. They should NOT be prescribed after just 5 minutes of speaking with someone.
I take an over the counter allergy med. It used to be prescription but isn't now. It works for me because I don't need it everyday. I need it everyday when I'm camping because of excessive dust and wind. It works quite well. According to him, I would no longer need it with his "medicaiton". The fact that he said he is the only knowledgeable source of information for this medication is down right scarey. We are told to question. Thanks again for your input.
Classic symptoms of severe depression and anxiety
