Carb Counters - Weekly Chick Chat Jan 8-14/07

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01-08-2007, 10:58 AM
Good Morning :coffee:

Just starting us up, Im off to go weigh in and see how well I did last week.

01-08-2007, 11:07 AM
Lily, You might still be there. I've had the same problem. This is hard to believe but soy milk cured me. It has 4gm fiber per cup and 1 net carb. I have to use a little sugar free flavor to drink it but getting more fiber really works. It's hard to be consistent and if you are in an emergency situation you might want to try an enema or a stonger laxative like exlax but only once in awhile. The thing is to get more fiber and that means count it like carbs, as much as 25 to 35 grams a day.
Put his on last weeks thread but added it here, too.

Phoenix Song
01-08-2007, 11:53 AM
Hello everybody! I wish you well in this week's endeavors!

I have been struggling with my weight all of my life, and have managed to lose down to near my goal weight twice. During those two times, I managed to keep the weight off for over a year, but circumstances would get the better of me (pregnancy, surgeries, etc) and it would slowly creep up again. I have found myself once more within 20 lbs of my highest weight ever, and am miserable!

The second time that I lost a great deal of weight I was on the Atkins' program. I experienced some problems in which my gallbladder had to be removed, and the doctor blamed the diet for my failing organ. In short, I stopped Atkins at that point and began gaining big time.

I have now gotten to the point where I am so miserable with my weight and so unable to control the sweets/starch cravings that I feel that my only option is to return to the ANA. I know that I'm going to face a lot of opposition from my family and my husband, but I think that I would face more health problems by remaining 100 lbs overweight than I would be to restrict carbs in my life.

Since I won't be getting support at home, I'm going to need a lot of support and help from others. I'm hoping that you won't mind keeping my mind focused on the end goal so that I won't become distracted and sabotaged in my efforts.

I began the induction program yesterday morning, and managed to get through the first 24 hours without cheating at all! There were definitely times when it was hard for me to do, since I always have headaches and feel a bit dizzy when I first go off carbs. (I'm obviously very addicted to them!) I'm feeling a bit stronger this morning and I'm hoping that it won't be as hard for me to remain faithful to my diet.

Thanks for being here to give me inspiration and support!

:wizard: Barb

01-08-2007, 01:40 PM
carol, thanks. I don't use any milk at all. I was afraid I wouldn't like the taste of soy milk. Plus, milk always causes me stomach problems. I am taking 2 fiber tabs daily with 4 grams fiber each. I'm going to increase this now to 4 tabs daily. I get quite a lot of fiber in my foods. I am going to decrease cheese in my diet. I am going to see a specialist for this continuing problem. I get so miserable. It is not normal to only go once a week and no one should have to take as many laxatives as I do.

Barb, it's good to have you join us. You will gets lots of support here. My family also thought I was crazy for doing Atkins. It has helped me better than any way of eating that I've ever chosen. I know how you feel. I was 3 lbs. from my highest weight ever when I started losing it this time. I also had gallbladder disease, mine was way before I started Atkins, so they could'n't blame this. My doctor is the one that started me on the low carb lifestyle. I have liver problems and it can't metabolize large amt. of carbs, so my wt. was ballooning horrifically the last few years. My first doctor had put me on a 1400 calorie ADA diet and it didn't work at all for me. I was hungry all the time and I didn't lose anything. Atkins is a great program and it works when done correctly. I have modified mine a little, to decrease the fats that I have problems with. Did increase the fruit. It was a matter of finding what worked best for me with my health problems.

I had gotten close to my goal one previous time. I was 150 I think. That was when I was on Phen/Fen about 13 yrs. ago. I slowly gained back the weight at a rate of about5 lbs. a yr. for a while. Then went on prednisone and gained 50 lbs. in 3 yrs. I'm still on prednisone, but a lower dose.

I wish you the best of success with the Atkins program and your weight loss. Welcome to our chat.

Arkansas Kel
01-08-2007, 01:53 PM
Hello all - welcome all newcomers!

We're behind you barb! It's hard when it seems nobody is on your side, so just remember we all are.

Lilly, I hate that you suffer with constipation so badly. Yes, you should get to the bottom of it as you and I both know, a true impaction (which you could be at risk for) can be deadly (bowel perforation!). It's a chronic problem, treating the symptoms hasn't fixed it - time to treat the source. I see this kind of stuff a lot (med surg and poop go hand in hand) and it can be no joking matter! Many resolve on their own, a few don't - and then it's major surgery! Could be a twisted bowel, an old blockage, a herniated area of bowel (esp with that lump in your abd you can feel!). Hey, you know all this you're a nurse too, end of lecture - find the problem.

At work they now leave me alone about the eating! Finally. They can see the wt loss (did I mention the next pound has fallen OFF) ya. They are starting to mention it. Thrilling. Oh yes.

In case anybody is closely watching my wt ticker - I decided to adjust it a little. I changed my starting wt to reflect my all time high. I just wanted to include all my pounds lost not just those since I've starting really low carbing it this time. I just want to see all my success. That high was just last year, so it's not from very long ago.

On the education battle front, my advisor gave me a phone number to call to try to barter for my lost credits. She said to tell them she told me to call them. She is diverting me past the registrar! Maybe I will get somewhere. Ya'll cross your fingers for me!

beach bum
01-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Hi Ladies:)

I had Bad news & Good news. over the weekend. Bad News I fell out of the bed and my back & shoulder are a little sore. Already called the bed company and they going to repair the broken part.
Good News I lost 2-lbs this morning.I'm on the Happyville Express and feeling great to be there.

Are we going to W-I on Monday for the January Challenge?????????????? If not I will wait until my regular W-I day to chance my ticker. Now I have 8 more to go to hit my goal for January.

Robin-Thanks :thanks:for starting us up,hope you have a great W-I.Wasn't sure what thread to post my loss,so I posted it here.

Carol-I don't know if soy milk has anything to with laxitives but my DH & I switched to soy milk and feel great. I Like you say,its low sugar & carbs and is less calories also.Its also has the same amount of calcium in it as the cow milk does. We're also on soy cheeses to.

PhoenixSong-Sorry:sorry: about your health problems & not getting to your weight goal. Is your doctor sure that the gall bladder was the cause of the Atkins Program????????My doctor put me on this WOE,never:no: told me about the different side effects. Sure we'll give your support you in your weight loss.

Lily-Did you every try Metamucil [Natural fiber]with Psysillium fiber. I take it 3 x a day before meals[6 caplets] per day.I had problems after going on my cruise,but now I'm regular again. Hope you find something you like quick to relieve the suffering from bloating.

Arkansas Kel-Happy the coworkers are leaving your alone about weight problems. You're doing great,and don't lesson to envious people that don't understand our WOE.I'm still getting flack from family & friends[I just turned a :listen:deaf ear].

Hugs :) BB

01-08-2007, 06:59 PM

I was thinking about changing my ticker also to my all time high, but that was a decade ago, so I am not sure if I should or not.


I hope you find a solution soon. I know how uncomfortable it can be.


I really don't buy that stuff about Atkins causing gallbladder problems. I recently had mine out, but those stones were in there for a long long time before they finally acted up. And most of that time I was not doing low carb. I think moderating one's carb intake is a very healthy thing, and makes more sense than anything else for weight loss.

I am glad I have found this group. I think I will really succeed this time


Phoenix Song
01-08-2007, 08:11 PM
Nona, I'm not sure that it was the Atkins that caused the gallbladder problems. But that's what the doctor claimed and that's what my family believes. I only brought it up because they're (meaning my family and husband) going to keep constantly telling me that I shouldn't do Atkins because of my gallbladder problem. I know that I was never as healthy as when I was on Atkins, and that's what matters.

Thanks for the warm welcome everybody! :hug: I really do feel the need for support and encouragement from all of you because I know that I can't do it without help and won't be getting any from around here.

Lily, I'm so sorry that you're having so many problems with your stomach. I hope that you're able to get some relief soon, because I know that it's very uncomfortable and painful.

I hope that you're able to get some solutions to your lost credits Arkansas Kel. I know how upsetting it is to lose credits because I've lost some when I switched my major. I hope that you get good news! It's also good to know that "others" will stop putting forth their 2cents when they see the results of the dieting.

BB, sorry about your bed getting broken, but hope that they're able to fix it without any problems. I hope that you're not too stiff and sore from the fall. I know how painful it can be.

I hope that the weigh in went well Robin!

Carol, have you found any affects from the soy milk on your dieting? I'd like to add in milk after the induction period, but have wondered how it will affect weight loss. Then again, it might vary from person to person.

I'm happy to say that I've managed to not cheat up until this point! Almost 2 days on Atkins without slip-ups! I know that night time is my most tempting times, but I feel as if I can be strong! YEAH!!! I'm finding the headaches to be lessening, and that makes it much easier to be strong.

Talk to you all tomorrow! (Unless I need some strength tonight?)

:wizard: Barb

01-08-2007, 09:57 PM
Hi, ladies! I'm just jumping in here! :)

It is Day Three of my official start of low-carb diet and exercise regime. I am so excited this time around. I did low-carb in 2003, lost 35 pounds, then I got pregnant, so I gained it all back and then some. I just never was motivated enough to lose that weight until now. I want to look good in my sister's wedding, but I just want to be thin and healthy. I have WANTED to exercise these past 3 days, and I have NEVER wanted to exercise before. THAT is a big change for me, and I feel that it will let me be successful. I cannot wait to reach my goal weight!

Barb-- I have also had my gallbladder removed, but my doctor never said anything about attributing it to low-carb. Of course, he didn't ask me if I'd ever done it, but I don't think it would cause gallbladder problems. I didn't have stones, though... mine just wasn't working properly.

BB-- I am so sorry you fell and were injured. I hope you are healing well.

Kel-- I was thinking of putting my heighest weight in, as well, but I don't know if I will since I did WW last year and fell off that bandwagon after only 3 months, so I am almost having to start all over again. Good luck with the credits! I know schools can be a pain in the butt about that.

Robin-- I hope your weigh-in went well, and you made some progress!

01-08-2007, 10:03 PM
Hi everyone!!

Can I join? :) I started induction last Tuesday, and things are going great so far. I weigh in tomorrow. I did have one day of cheat where I had no control over what I ate, but every other day has been GREAT!! I'm not hungry at all- I am fighting cravings tonight because there's something in my brain asking for something sweet and cakey, but I'm not hungry. I just want to eat it.

I'm waiting for the SF jello to set. LOL.

Why did I wait so long to do this?!! I'm eating better than I ever have before.

I'm in ketosis- I got the funny breath and the symptoms of the Atkins flu. :D Yay!!! I've lost weight- I can tell in my clothes- but I don't know how much yet. According to my old scale, I've gained 3 pounds. :rolleyes: However, that can't be true.

I just wanted to squee with others. I'm so happy about how this is going. :D

01-09-2007, 12:06 AM
Hello Everyone!!

Robin- Hope your WI went great!!

Barb- We're here for you! It's hard when those at home aren't supporting you. I'm lucky my DH is doing Atkins also, so that makes it a lot easier!

Lily- I hope a specialist can help you find a solution to your problem. I know how uncomfortable it can be!

Kel- Great job on that pound falling OFF!!! Good luck getting some/all of your lost credits back. It sucks losing what you've worked so hard for!

BB- Sorry to hear that you fell off of the bed. Been there done that! Hope that you are feeling better soon! Great job on the loss!!!!!!

Nona- Hi! Great to see you!

Kelly- Hi! I too was on Atkins (in 2004) and got pregnant! I had lost 60 lbs, and luckily only gained 12lbs back while pregnant. However, I put the 60lbs back on plus more after she was born! Good Luck! Wanting to excercise is definately a great thing!

Freedom- Hi and welcome! Good luck with your W-I. Hope your SF jello is yummy!!

Well, today is day 8, and it's all been cheat-free! I am so proud of myself! I had some cravings for something sweet today, but kept telling myself "Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels!". It seems to be working, because those cravings went right away! I weighed-in last night and was down 9lbs. I'm sure most of it's water, but I'll take it!

I'm so glad to be back on these boards. They really give me so much encouragement! Good Luck Everyone!

Arkansas Kel
01-09-2007, 12:29 AM
Lily: Are we behind you or what. I just have to say this. We’ve gone from pup watch to poop watch! Only real friends would make that trip with you! :hug:

Barb, If you NO LONGER have a gall bladder, which is what I understood, than how can Atkins cause gall bladder problems now? Usually the solution for gall bladder disease is to remove it! Now, I don’t know that Atkins causes gall bladder problems, I have heard high fat can flare it up if it’s already a problem. Maybe that’s the problem you had.

Would like to recommend Hood Carb Countdown milk. A cup at breakfast works in fairly easily carb wise – it comes in fat free, low fat, whole, and CHOCOLATE. Also, there are some recipes to make “milk” with cream and other things added in. Walmart where I go carries fat free, low fat and chocolate. I had to give up the whole version cause they stopped carrying it! My husband thinks the chocolate rules. :chockiss: I cook with it some too. Works great in recipes.

F&L, for sweet and cakey check into the 1 minute muffin recipe on the recipe area. It rocks, for real. It’s unreal easy and then – WOW yummy. My only suggestion – must use a mug – I boiled one over in a smaller cup! It’s a must try. Would be good with that carb countdown milk!

Mrs. H, WAY TO GO! Rock on sister. And as for water loss - a large component of fat is (drum roll please) WATER. So if you lose fat - yep, ya gotta lose some water too! We're just bags of water to begin with - all that extra fat includes a lot of extra water too!

Well, I thus far don't regret the ticker change - it was a 2 lb adjustment from 233 to 235, gave me a more even number and it is accurate from a few months probably before starting atkins. It is accurate to the before pic I posted.

NOW, I woke up tonight and guess what. In my sleep today the whoosh fairy visited! YES YES YES. I’m down 2 more lbs. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

01-09-2007, 10:33 AM
BB and Barb, I had to switch to the soy milk because I had blood calcium problems in the past and the Westsoy unsweetened only had 4% calium per cup. Then one day I notice it was 1 gm net carb and 4 gm fiber. I thought that was quite a deal.

01-09-2007, 10:47 AM
Just a quick hello this morning :wave:

weigh-in was very discouraging! The lb I had lost during the week is I have no weightloss for the week :( I cant really explain why that lb is back except to say tom arrived this morning....and Im still holding alot of water! So, I'll give 2 more days before I change up my eating habits again.

Alright Im off........have a great day ladies!

01-09-2007, 12:02 PM
Hi everyone, Thanks so much for the support ladies and sticking with me from "pup watch to poop watch" LOL. I feel good today. Managed to have a decent dinner last night. My wt. is down and I am ready to kick up the exercise. I made that mashed cauliflower last night for the first time and me and DH both liked it.

I'm going to get some of that soy milk the next time I buy groceries. I don't like the sound of it, but may be able to stomach it. I'm now chewing 4 fiber choice tabs daily and not taking any harsh laxatives. My appt. with gastroenterologist is in April.(the earliest I could get in).

Mrs. H, wtg on the 9 lbs. that is awesome. If I lose wt. it counts, no matter what. I don't care if it's water or what. It's lbs.

Robin , sorry you are discouraged with WI, I'm sure it's TOM and will go down. I used to go up 5 lbs. with TOM.

BB, sorry to hear you fell out of bed. Hope you're on the mend. Not long ago, we heard a big thump in my son's room. Ran to check and see what happened. He's 21 and had fell out of bed. It didn't even wake him up. We woke him and had him get back in bed. He didn't remember it even happening.

Kel, I don't mind the lecture. I know I have a problem and it's scary. I'm trying to get help for it. If the problem recurs, I'm going to see my OB/GYN that I'm friends with and have her get me to a gastro. Dr. on more of an emergency basis. I'm sure she'd do this for me. (we worked L&D together for yrs.).

01-09-2007, 03:24 PM
Hi all, sorry to double post. I guess Molly is trying to do semi-Low carb too. She got my whole loaf of wheat bread LC, off kitchen counter and ate it while I was at the store. Ironically, I had went to buy more dog food. She is eating a ton while trying to feed these pups. I have now started supplementing them with some canned puppy food as of today. They are some hungry little fur balls.

I called the vet yesterday to see when I could have the pups dew claws removed. Was shocked to find out I'm too late. They won't remove them at all after 1 week old and prefer to no later than 3 days old. I didn't know this. Last time none of the buyers wanted the dew claws removed.

01-09-2007, 03:48 PM
Just tried the one minute muffin and though it looked awful it tasted pretty good. The recipe said it had 17gm of fiber. Lily, Have you tired it?

01-09-2007, 04:29 PM
carol, I've never tried it. There is some ingredient I don't have, can't remember which one. I'll go look.

01-10-2007, 06:12 AM
Pity Party for me? You know this weight has been coming off at a turtles pace ever since I started. I have accepted this and remained on course. Never thought I could be so strong. Very proud of myself. I have lost 21lbs and only one person at work (or anywhere) has noticed. No big deal.. until yesterday.
My counterpart at work is out of Florida and works remotely. Well yesterday she came into town and had lost 20lbs. Everyone was swooning all over her. "Oh you look so great" "How did you do it" "Congradulations", etc, etc, blah, blah. I complemented her too becase I AM happy with her and can relate.
BUT Im sitting there thinking..."what about me, I lost the same amount of weight too, dammit!" I even shed a tear on the way home. Im really ashamed of how I felt about this.
The reason everyone noticed is because she wasnt that big to begin with. Also we havent seen her in a while and thats another reason why everyone noticed. I know these facts and continued to feel sorry for myself. I hate it when the evil little ***** in me comes out!!

01-10-2007, 09:00 AM
So sorry to hear of your plight. I know it very well. I have come to the point where I keep it to myself and enjoy the other less need of sleep, less achiness, fewer cravings, and less hunger pangs. Now those are things to enjoy!

01-10-2007, 11:59 AM
Good Morning :coffee:

We got some snow :cb: :lol: It feels like winter now....we have some some sunshine this morning so its very pretty out there today.

The reason everyone noticed is because she wasnt that big to begin with. Also we havent seen her in a while and thats another reason why everyone noticed. I know these facts and continued to feel sorry for myself. I hate it when the evil little ***** in me comes out!!

JustWill, I know just how heartbreaking this can feel :hug: Im so glad you understood why it was noticed on her ......I still give my dh a hard time for not noticing 20lbs gone...even tho the lives here :lol: Please, just dust yourself off, and get back to it. Dont let this sabotage all your hard efforts.....just think how her reaction is going to be next time she comes to town and you have another 20lbs gone!!! I hope you have a good day today!

Alright, well.....I know what works, and I have to do what works!! I cannot add high carb veggies, and fruits to my diet just yet if I need to loose weight *insert a great big sigh here* So, Im back to strict induction....under 20grams of carbs, and the fitday account has been dusted off once again!

Goal....loose 100lbs by thanksgiving! Day one starts today!

Have a great day ladies!

Phoenix Song
01-10-2007, 12:01 PM
Justwill, I'm so sorry for what's happened! I know what you mean and have been in that same situation before! (I'm also ashamed to admit that being in that position has upset me so much that it's derailed my efforts to lose weight!)

You're not a horrible person for feeling the way that you did! I would've felt the same way and so would most everybody in that same situation. You've earned the right to be praised and encouraged, and it's hard when others that haven't worked as hard are given what you deserve!

But I hope that you don't allow this to derail your efforts as I have in the past. It might seem as if "Why do I do this if nobody notices? I should just eat what I want and not bother!" But the work is worth it even if you are the only one that knows what's happening on the scale. You will be a healthier and happier person and one day they'll all look at you and think: "Wow! Doesn't she look great? When did that happen?"

Until then it might help you if you told yourself in the mirror everyday that you are wonderful and special and that you are becoming even more special by the day. When others won't encourage you, sometimes you have to do it for yourself. I do! It sounds corny but it works!

I hope that you have a much better day today! :hug:

Well, I'm very proud of myself this morning! I have managed to go for 3 1/2 days without any sugar, breads or "bad" carbs at all! I'm so thrilled to have stayed completely within the induction guidelines. I know that for many this wouldn't be as large of a deal as it is for me, but I'm about to be 37 and have never stuck completely on a diet without cheating in my entire life! (And I've been dieting since I was 12!) To go for 3 1/2 days without even a nibble of a cheat makes me feel so proud and hopeful for what I'm going to accomplish this time around! The support has really helped me!

I hope that you all have great days today!

:wizard: Barb

Edit: We just missed one another Robin! Hello! I'm with you on maintaining the strict induction guidelines! It's tough, but we know that it will work! It helps me to know that others are right there going through the same thing that I am!

Congratulations on your snow! I know that many that usually have lots by now haven't had any! My friends in Minnesota are bereft because there has only been one true snowfall there this year and that's been long gone. I live in Southern Louisiana, so I've only ever seen snow twice in my life.... and that's likely to remain the case I'm afraid!

01-10-2007, 12:08 PM
Hey Barb :wave: WTG on your 3.5 days !!!!! Thats so cool!!! You will find the longer you go, the easier it gets (except during one point every month) Good going! :dance:

Brenda....where are you and what are you doing? How are things going?

Arkansas Kel
01-10-2007, 12:58 PM
Justwill: JUST imagine the day they look at you and say "hey, have you lost wt?" and you say "why yes, 40 lbs." That will blow 20 lbs out of the water and you will have your moment. In fact, you'll have many many moments. One trick is to get yourself a new outfit once you lose enough to make a change in sizes. That point varies for different people, but if your old clothes fit loose, they may just see the old clothes. You get something new, a little more fitted to a newer size - they'll notice. Most important, as you say the wt IS coming off. Down is better than up! Hang in there.


Robin: Is it the juicing? I was worried about how that was working out. Glad you are trying to improve things for your diet. Some folks can't tolerate the higher carb levels, some can.

Barb: 3 1/2 days - you go girl. One day at a time can add up! Keep up the good work.

Those lost credits of mine may be found. I contacted the school, they said my transcript is under review so I can expect more to transfer. They said it should be done today. Will check tonight - everyone cross your fingers!!! ;)

Last night was preplanned endulgence and I did it big time. Movie popcorn (OMG, that stuff is yum), then a qtr pounder with cheese and fries. Now back OP for another week. So far so good. This system works for me. I know if I can't live without something I can have it - I just have to WAIT.

01-10-2007, 01:54 PM
Hi ladies,

Justwill, sorry to hear that people aren't noticing the wt. loss on you. It took a long time for people to see it on me too. I could tell the difference in my body long before anyone else noticed. WTG on losing 21 lbs. that is awesome and I'm sure it makes you feel better. Hang in there, people will start to notice. With me, I felt lighter after losing the first 5 lbs. but no one said anything to me about it til I'd lost about 35 lbs. My DH didn't even really notice the difference. But, like you said he sees me every day.

Kel, I love that movie popcorn too. It isn't something that I can resist. So, I plan it very rarely and then go ahead and indulge.

I thought my tummy problems were solved for now. I got on the treadmill finally and walked 30 min's. Woke up at 1AM and was vomiting. I don't know why. I feel OK this morning. Part of it may have been stress. I got a call from a longtime friend of DH's last night. He said that Samantha, our oldest step-daughter had called him crying. She told him that she would be evicted from her apartment with her DH and 2 kids this morning, if her rent for the last 2 months wasn't paid. He wanted to know what was going on. I explained that she is irresponsible with money and this is an on-going problem with her. She drains us DRY. He didn't want to hear anything bad about her, so he said "I've gotta go and will call you back." He never called back. He did tell me that he called and paid the 2 months rent for her. Oh well, He'll have to learn about her the hard way. When DH got up at 3AM to go to work, I told him what had happened. He was furious that she was now mooching money off his old friend. (All of this is being done behind her DH's back). Like father like Daughter I say. This is her learned behavior and how she was raised. She won't ever change, he didn't. There are too many family and friends that feel sorry for her and bail her out every time. She goes to someone different each month. Last week, it was her sister. She called her sis crying and said they didn't have any food. Her sis was smart enough to buy her groceries, not give her cash money. But, Sam did tell her that if her DH was there, not to bring the food in because it'd make him mad that they were in this shape again. 2 weeks ago she borrowed $200.00 from her 87 yr. old grandmother that lives on a tiny social security check. (get this, the GM was in the hospital recovering from open heart surgery at the time). As for the rent not being paid, she told DH's friend that she "didn't know it hadn't been paid". Truth was, she told DH she paid it both times and the checks bounced. OMG, she is gonna be the death of me.

BTW, she is currently driving my Expedition which uses a ton of gas. She went over 150 miles in it last night to a friend's high school ball game. She asked if I want to play bingo tonite. She is going to her little sisters ballgame tomorrow night that is about 200 miles a way. I don't feel sorry for her. When you are broke and begging money, you don't do crap like this.

01-10-2007, 03:25 PM
Wow, Lily she sounds like my dil!!!! Something we have started doing...and seems to have worked....when she calls us for money or help in any way, we tell her to have her husband call us. If her husband is out of town, we make a point to bring up the $$ amount owing when he is home and can hear the conversation. We always know shes up to her sneaky ways when we say we'll bring the check right over, and before we even have our shoes on, she's at our door! (they live next door) Anyway, its helped alot....she tends to only ask for help when she really needs it now, and knows enough to have her husband ask us. I think it was only 2x last year. Hopefully others will learn before they get taken advantage of a bit too much.

I braved the scale this morning....and after eating too many triscuits last night and a chocolate bar, my weight is down 2lbs :dizzy: go figure! :dunno: No matter, Im still sticking to 20 carbs a day.

beach bum
01-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Hi Ladies:)
Busy this morning just had time to look over my e- mail,and that its.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! Its getting [[[[C-O-L-D]]]] up here. I guess its time to take the winter duds out,plus a extra blanket on the bed is in order also.

W-I was today and even though I gain 1/2 lb back from Monday I still lost 1.5 pounds this week. Want to get under 160 by the end of this month, I think its do able.

MrsH-Big congrats:congrats: on your 9 lb loss.You're doing great. Especially now that the craving are gone you'll be able to follow the plan a lot easier than before.Didn't hurt myself after the fall,the bed has to be repaired when the part come in

Carol-DH & I like soy milk better than the reg. Ours[silk] is 7 carbs per cup I must fine the brand your are using,as I like 1 carb better.

Robin-ARRRRRRRR!! I'm sorry about your pound. Tom can do a lot of damage during W-I glad hes gone from my scene.

LILY-The puppies must be getting big now,They are lot of work,but somehow they worth it. I didn't hurt myself the mattress cushoned the fall. I have to get the repairman in to put in the new part.

Justwilling-BIG CONGRATS:cheer: ON YOUR 21 LB LOSS. Some people show a lose better than others. Like you said the coworkers didn't see her in a long time.Be happy that you have us ladies to be there for you. Do you have any before & after pictures that does wonders for you when you see the photos on the refrig. Their better than the bathroom mirror.

Barb-Thats a great feeling when you get off the craving of bad carb.Just continue what you're doing and you'll succeed.

ArkansasKel-Happy:) to hear they found your credits.Thats important that the school found them. I'm Crossing :crossed:my fingers for you.

Have a great evening Ladies

Hugs :) BB

01-10-2007, 03:56 PM
Robin, her DH doesn't come around. Last time I saw him was when Taylor turned a yr. old and he'll soon be 3 yrs. old. I know she keeps him from us because she doesn't want anything ever said to him. He has a cell phone and we don't know the number to it. The biggest reason I've never tracked him down and told him what is going on right under his nose, is that he'd kick her out and she'd come here. I can't handle them living with us. Been there, done that. It should be interesting this weekend though. He's leaving to Florida for his job. He won't be able to get any money for his trip from the ATM because there isn't any. They have fought over money for the whole 4 yrs. they have been married. If he had a lick of sense, he'd close that checking account and give her a weekly allowance. He makes really good money at his federal job but they are always broke and overdrawn. I think she eats up hundreds of dollars each month in bounced check fees. My DH had got himself in trouble trying to pick up bounced checks for her all the time, after they are at the DA's office. Believe me, it has caused a lot of marital problems for us. I told DH last night that as long him, his friends, and family are willing to enable her to continue to live like this, that it will never stop. He agreed with me. He did tell her "NO" last night as far as us catching up her rent. If he had paid it, we'd have had a major fight over it. I need our money to pay my car payment and his student loan.

Kel, I'm glad that more of your credits may transfer. That is great news.

BB, the pups are getting big. They are heavy for me to take them all outside of the morning. I have to make 3 trips now. They are a lot of work. Lucy is the fattest of them all. LOL, she doesn't miss a meal. Man, when they eat, it is a feeding frenzy. I feel sorry for Molly. Her boobies are about to hit the ground. She isn't being good to the runt. I went out to get the pups a couple nights ago and she had taken the poor little thing out of the dog house and put him in a whole she had dug. He was yelping his head off. Last night she had moved him down the hall and my son found him under the computer desk by himself. I am supplementing him with canned puppy food and he is starting to grow better. I'm really having to watch him around her. I guess it's instinctual for a mama dog to do this to the runt, but she just recently started. The others are so big and healthy maybe she thinks this isn't her pup.

01-10-2007, 04:11 PM
Well thats too bad....I certainly understand you not wanting her to live with you :lol: Id be the same way. There is now way I could have her live here with the kids. The kids sure.....but not her! Well, I hope it all works out for you!

01-10-2007, 04:27 PM
BB the soy milk that is 1gm net carb is Westsoy unsweetened. I think that's the sugar. You can always add sugar free flavoring if you don't like it plain. I found a bar that I like to take on our trip to Portland. It is the Atkins bar.....coconut chocolate with 3 gm net carb. I don't plan on using them a lot.......some artificial sweetners don't agree with me for long. But it's nice to have something in a pinch like on an airplane.

01-10-2007, 04:36 PM
Lily, Just wanted to let you know that a year ago when my prednisone dose was first lowered I was REALLY sick for about a weak and had a really bad respiratory illness that I couldn't shake. Finally it went away and I have been pretty good since, thank the Lord.

01-10-2007, 10:42 PM
Hi Ho Everyone!:D

Knocked offline for a few days while we "upgraded" our "media center" - yeah right aud!;) - moved the computer to a different room and had trouble hooking it all back up!:dizzy:

Gosh its been fun catching up with all the chat . . . but now too pooped to chat! (Which reminds me--ROTF to "pup watch to poop watch":D :p :D --glad you're somewhat better lilyb!:hug: )

Hmmmm . . . what can I quickly add b4 sleeping pill coma hits? I'm still on day shift til Tuesday nite--(which will be my W/I this week)--its been a rough adjustment. I'm still OP/inductioned/watered and exercised - altho' not fitting in as much Pilates as I'd like.

Loving all the newcomers - WELCOME!!!:carrot:

Oooooh - I gotta tell you this - My Big Sis bought me a pair of jeans for my Birthday Casino night--12/23 - well today, I had them on with my super large hoodie. With all the water and green tea I've been drinking - every trip to the bathroom is near emergency time by the time I get to one. Once I got in the stall, my hands were caught up in the yards of hoodie material and I just jerked at my pants thru the material. Get this: I pulled the Birthday Jeans DOWN-----WITHOUT UNBUTTONING THEM!!!! All the way down. I can pull them up and down w/o unzipping too. UNfreakingREAL!

So not sure what Mr. Scale will show - but definitely gonna do measurements again - how often do you all measure?

Hope to be staying online now - have been lost w/o you guys.

01-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Thats sooooooo cool Aud!!!!!! I used to measure once a week with each weigh in....but Im switching to once a month.

01-11-2007, 01:04 AM
carol, I don't have any respiratory symptoms this week but just finished taking Zithromax this past week. My problem is all tummy upset. But, the lowering on the prednisone may be making me sick. I've been on it for 4 yrs. now. My hands are itching a lot for some strange reason that I'm not sure of. I usuallly break out with the PBC rash on my back and shoulders first each time the bile salts come to the skin.

Aud, that is so cool on the jeans coming off without unbuttoning. I am wearing a pr. of my DD's jogging pants today. I looked at the size of them and noticed they are a small size 28/30 waist. They fit fine but she wants them back. LOL, she steals my clothes a lot so I'm paying her back.

I'm getting very concerned that my son's Army reserve unit will soon be on the way to Iraq. With the addition of 20,000 troops that they plan to send, I'm sure he'll be going. He is sure too after last weekend having drill and them being told to bring in all their equipment for "Inventory". He had the chance to go to Germany or Alaska for a year and a half tour of duty and turned it down. Said, "no, if my unit goes to Iraq, I'm going. I'd feel horrible them having to go while I was sitting somewhere else having a beer and relaxing". He is very much a team player with his unit. He has loyalty and guts. Know that his mother would much rather he stay right here with me. But, I know that every other mother of a soldier feels the same way I do.

Arkansas Kel
01-11-2007, 04:49 AM
aud: That's awesome. I too can pull down pants without unbuttoning now! Of course, that's my old ones and they're stretchy denims, but I couldn't before. There's a milestone for you!

Lilly: OH NO! I hope he doesn't go. My husband's cousin just went, he's lucky in that he's in a support unit more than "front line" and is an officer. He's staying in one of Sadam's compounds - has his own room with private bath. He's very fortunate in how his tour is working out! DH has a friend over there as a contractor in logistics. He's some sort of logistics expert. He's making the big bucks for this, but he's without a weapon and he's about 6 ft 6 with a loud mouth - meaning he'll stick out. I hope he stays safe. He said he never travels without a military escort. I hope so. Well that got wordy. next topic.

Hope the GI problems get better. That's misery.

Well, I've done nothing great today except stay OP and nap. I think I'm building an allergy attack. Time to start allergy meds. That means lots of zzzzzzzzzzzzz cause they zzzzzzzzzz knock me out zzzzzzzzzz. Well, can't be off program if I'm not conscious!

No answer on the lost credits. I checked tonight and it's no different. Will check again tomorrow night. Keep your fingers crossed!

01-11-2007, 04:53 AM
You guys are so great! You really keep me going. I gotta hit the books before work, and post my food for yesterday, so everyone have a wonderful day.

01-11-2007, 10:09 AM
Just popping in to say "hi" and that I'm still around. Just been so tired and worn out. I feel burnt out. KWIM? Too much stuff going on I guess. My dad is having surgery in a couple weeks (same thing as always--problems with the circulation in his legs). I'm still 1/2 and 1/2 with regards to LC. But according to the scale managed to lose another pound (Saturday is WI day). Not counting it official until then. :wave: Have a good day ladies!!

01-11-2007, 10:20 AM
Good Morning :coffee:

Brenda~ Glad you popped in! Ive been wondering where you got to :hug:

Justwill~Im glad you have a good feeling today, and are keeping at it!

Lily~ I'll keep my fingers crossed that your son is one that gets to stay home!

We didnt like what we heard last night either. Dh's son was in iraq 2 yrs ago, we were really hoping he was home free. He only has 1 more year to serve before he can leave. The constant worry when he was away really wears away at you. This is the son that lives right next door....I really dont want to see him go this time.

Well, I just typed a whole lot of political stuff that I had to wipe out....this just isnt the place for it.....but it makes me incredibly angry when I think about why he has to go over there and risk his life.

On the weightloss front, Im still op, and hanging in there. I have discovered that cheese late at night triggers snacking!!!! I had cheese on my chicken last night...and we ate quite late. By about 30min after finishing, I was looking for something to munch on. I havent done this in a long time. (aside from the triscuits the other night) So, Im going to have to watch that. Otherwise all is good there :)

My main goal today.......get my weight bench set back up!

Have a good day ladies.

01-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the support ladies. I'll keep everyone posted on when and if he has to go. I'm sure it's coming. His sergeants pretty much said so. I will be so worried about him every waking moment and so will my DH. I know in advance that I can count on all of you for support and prayers and that makes me feel better.

Robin, I hope your DH's son gets to stay home. I know many soldiers here that have went on multiple tours in Iraq. My son so far had been fortunate as the first time his unit went he was in basic training and when they went back he was in AIT. So, he hasn't had to go yet. He signed up for the Reserves when he was only 17 yrs. old. I was a little upset at the time because a recruiter kept coming to my home and talking to him while me and DH were at work. Totally convinced him to join. So, he went to basic between his Jr. and Sr. yr. of high school. He seems so young to me, but I'm sure all the other mothers feel the same way.

As for my wt. , I'm back down to the 141 that shows on my tracker. I know it's from not feeling well and not eating much the past week. I can actually tell I'm in Ketosis for the first time in a long time. Oh well, I'll take it. This is more my comfortable range anyway.

Phoenix Song
01-11-2007, 01:54 PM
Hello everybody! I hope that you're all doing well today!

I'm so sorry Lily and Robin that your son and step-son might have to be sent back to Iraq. You all have my deepest prayers and hopes that they'll get to stay home!

My BIL was in Iraq and we were terrified for his safety! We're so glad that he's home now and hope that all of that mess over there is cleared out soon! I'll try not to get on one of my favorite rants here, but I'll just say that I totally support the troops and the family that they leave behind. I worry for them and their safety, and hope that they're all home soon.

Lily, I'm glad that you were able to lose those lbs again, but hope that you're feeling much better soon! I wish that your gastro. dr. would've been able to see you before April! Are you doing any better with your stomach?

Lady_adnerb, I hope that your father goes through his surgery without any problems at all, and that you're feeling more energetic soon. Having ill family can really wear you down, I know. Congratulations on losing that extra pound!

:wave: Justwill! I'm glad that things are going great with you!

Kel, I'm sorry that you're not feeling well! I hate allergy meds because they make you feel so tired also. I hope that you're feeling much better soon!

Aud, thanks for the welcome! Everybody here is so close and friendly that I really wanted to become a part of the group. I hope that I'll begin to fit in as I get to know everybody better and they get to know me. That's great about being able to pull your pants down without unbuttoning them! I look forward to that some day!

BeachBum, that's so amazing that you're on track to complete your goal! I'm so impressed and inspired! Way to go!

Carol, I'll have to look for that milk at my next trip to the grocery store. That's one of the things that I miss most!

Lily and Robin, I was thinking about you last night when I watched the Dr. Phil show that I had TiVo'd earlier that day! It was about mooching relatives and how to get them to take more responsibility for their lives. I haven't checked it out personally, but he said that he was going to post some practical advice for helping financially irresponsible relatives to learn to help themselves and not turn to others to be bailed out. I hope that you don't mind that I thought of your stories and wanted to share that?

Well, I must apologize for the length of this post. My computer was a bit off last night and I had so many posts to reply to! I also wanted to share that my Induction is going pretty well! I'm feeling better physically, although my strength isn't quite what I'm used to.

I've also managed to lose 9 lbs this week! That's a miracle for me, because I usually have to really struggle for every single pound! Even when I was on Atkins before I didn't notice the big drop that everybody talked about. It's such a blessing to me because it'll give me the encouragement to go forward!

Thanks for the support!


01-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Phoenix, that is awesome. Wow, 9 lbs. How great you must feel. When I started Atkins I lost 8 the first week and it was great motivation to propel me forward with this woe. I have never regretted choosing atkins, it works and there is no need to starve.

Yesterday I watched Dr. Phil show on the mooching relatives. Had DH watch it too. Usually he hates Dr. Phil, but this time he watched. BTW, the friend of my DH's told my DH that he is going to meet with him and Samantha tonite. Go over every single bill she has and pay them all. Get her back to square zero. DH told him that this will only help for a couple months and then she'll be back in the same shape. His only stipulation for paying all her bills is that her husband has to know about it and be involved with it too. Man, I wish someone would come pay all my bills. Not really, I'm a responsible adult and can take care of my own self. She has such horrible credit card debt, it will probably cost him $20,000 to get her caught up. He said "I don't care how much it costs, I've got it". He wanted to make sure that DH and I weren't offended that he was doing this. We aren't offended, just don't believe that it will help her to be financially responsible. This friend of DH's has been friends with him since elementary school and DH's kids call him uncle Pat. DH is calling around to all nearby counties again to see how many warrants she has for hot checks. BTW, I was complaining about her driving my expedition all the time and leaving me her little hyundai and how much gas she is wasting. We figured out the reason why, she's trying to hide her car to keep it from being repo'd. She gave them hot checks too. Except for one day that my son had my vehicle, she's had it since before Halloween. I told DH to call and tell her I want my car back.

Phoenix Song
01-11-2007, 03:46 PM
That's such a shame that she's so irresponsible, Lily! I'd be terrified to have warrants out for bad checks and to be dodging the repo men! You were very kind to let her use your Expedition, but she obviously was taking advantage of that by running it all over God's creation and using up who knows how much in gas bills!

It's very kind of your husband's friend to bail her out, but I agree that it's likely to only temporarily resolve her problems. Dr. Phil says that "You don't solve money problems with money!" because the emotional and intellectual problems that caused you to get into a money bind will only crop up within a few weeks if they're all magically wiped clean without any lessons really learned.

I've had problems with bills in the past, and have had to pay off my debts (and am paying off my debts) the old fashioned, painful way... month to month! We're coming close to the end of this period, and one day it'll all be paid off. The feeling will be so sweet and rewarding that I know that I won't fall for the lure of "easy payments" and "fast credit" again!

Funnily enough, I've used Sarah, Duchess of York for an inspiration for both financial and weight health. As she ballooned up in weight her finances spiraled out of control, and she had to learn control and moderation in both of these areas.

I think that your husband's friend is very kind and compassionate to help her out, but I agree that it'll likely only come back as a larger and more intense problem. I hope that it doesn't, though. Perhaps having her husband involved in the process will help?

I'll be thinking of you!


01-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Barb, I do hope that getting her husband involved will help. Something tells me that he is irresponsible to. He goes away to shooting matches almost every weekend. Stays in hotels and eats out all the time. They obviously can't afford this behavior either. He is a firearms specialist for the federal government so I know it is necessary for him to keep up with weapons. But, I still think they both waste a lot of money. Trouble is she lies to him all the time about their money situation.

I wasn't just being nice when she borrowed my vehicle. I had no idea why she really wanted it. I'm kind of afraid to drive hers. If I get stopped, I'd probably be left a foot. Chances are her tags are expired and she probably has no insurance either. I just now thought of this. That's it, I'm demanding my car back.

01-11-2007, 07:24 PM
Ahhhhh . . . Family Dysfunction . . . and here I thought Thy Name was only AUD!:o Gosh I soooo loooove this place!!! LC or not - you guys and problems are sooooo like the many I've had - CLIFF NOTES/Short Version: Parents had me late in life - Adult brothers/sisters/nieces/nephews. Married older divorced man with older children. Just a deeeeelicious recipe for LOTS of similar stews lily/robin & Song. (May I call you "Song?" - so pretty and so glad you've jumped on in - I did the same thing not too long ago!:hug: )

HYUNDAI????? Not on your life GF - wouldn't even allow one in my driveway--much less drive the dayum thing. Hyundai vs an Expedition??????? These people are ON CRACK!!! Get your beautiful American-Made SUV BACK POST-HASTE lilyb - tell them your United Auto Worker Cyber Bud SAID SO!!! LOL!:D

Speaking of crack - this girl is either on some or has a secret gambling problem. If it was all wasting $$$ on Hotels/frivolty - her DH would be more on top of it - the secrecy from him smells like drugs or gambling to the Aud-Sniffer. Ole Uncle Pat is setting off my Aud-Radar as well---- at least 20 G's for the daughter of a lifelong pal???? Something rotten in ALL the woodpiles of Denmark on that offer.

These observations are offered on a 46 yr lifetime of a whole cast of dyfunctional characters and meant with the best wishes to you lily - hope you know that?


What's a girl to do?

For years, I think I aenesthetized (knocked myself out - is sooo much easier to spell!LOL!:D ) myself with food/comfort eating/binge eating. In the last 10 or so years - I've steadily have become less of a "mediator"/go between/enabler/peace maker with these folks and just plain more assertive on saying "NO." I think my bad eating habits in these last years have been just that: HABIT.

I've known for several years that I am a severe carbo-addict . . . thru you all I'm FINALLY able to FOCUS on just how much better I feel with this lifestyle---mentally AND physically---finding the stick to it strength chatting with you.:hug:

01-12-2007, 07:27 AM
Good morning everybody,

Just checking in to say hi, and say hang in there. We are all going to be sucessful eventually.

I have been soooo busy this week, extra dance rehersals, orientation week at work which is the busiest week of the month for me, extra dance rehersals, plus I am in a coaching certification course right now so I have homework, classes, clients to coach. Not much time left over for anything else. So my appartment is a little messy, and sometimes I just forget to eat! I have been better at not eating at bedtime, so I am hoping to see some progress on the scale. I'm weighing Mondays for my ticker, even though I weigh every day for BalanceLog.

I had been sleeping pretty well for a few weeks, boy oh boy has that changed. Just can't get the brain to shut down. Last night was better, probably because of the yoga class.

I am really excited about the performances Sunday, although I will probably be worn out and collapse Sunday evening. I will have done more exercize this week than I have in any week for years.


Hope you are all doing well. Perservere!!!


01-12-2007, 10:08 AM
A day off - HURRAH!:carrot: Last two weeks of day shift were pure **** for my Body Clock and also very stressful from a "We'll move all these jobs to Mexico in a Heartbeat" standpoint. Had a few emotional eating setbacks since we've chatted - I think two - but just leaps and bounds better than what I would be eating like Pre-November/Finding You All.:hug: I'm thinking the stress of all this would have had me easily over 300+ on this 5'6" frame.:( Have been able to STOP-REGROUP and quickly move on. Weight lifting has helped TREMENDOUSLY - can't even believe I'm typing those words!!;) Has really jump started my non-existent menopausal metabolism. I've been vigilant with my OTC Estroven and just really on an even WOE keel.

YAAAAAY LC!:carrot:

Hi nona! Have enjoyed your Posts while catching up and am in awe of anyone who can dance!:) We lost a Dance Legend from MO last year . . . I'll be dadgummed if I can think of her name right now . . . *injecting more coffee to brain* *sip* *sip* . . . ummmmm . . . East St. Louis native . . . was in her mid 90's (dancers always seem to have such a long, healthy life span, eh?) . . . did lots of Charitable Dance Foundation Work - Africa & St. Louis . . . just not coming to me---Grrrrrrrrrrrr.:mad:

LOVED dance aerobics in the 80's/Jane Fonda type studios everywhere - anyone remember? Leg warmers . . . head bands . . . spandex . . . I'm getting better at 20 yr old DD's DanceDance Revolution but at 46 and this weight - more suited to 9 yr old DD's Strawberry Shortcake Version!!!:o BOTH of them just fly along with the beat/steps.:)

ArkieArkieArkie . . . you are really on a ROLL. Has been so motivational catching up with your Posts!:hug: Keep ON those credits - they'll be worth something somewhere. I DID have a few junior college classes that never did transfer anywhere - but think it only added up to like 6-8 hours worth.

Didn't get any walking in yesterday for the first time since the PlayOff Beer Binge last weekend . . . I'm listening to some kind of Detective/Mystery series - Janet Evanovitch (sp?:?: ) - All the books are numbered - I'm on 7 & 8 involving a female Bounty Hunter--Stephanie Plum? Just GET LOST in them and the steps/miles FLY BY.

Found out Our Library is doscontinuing "cassette" Books On Tape so not sure what that will mean - DD is the techno person in this house and she isn't aware of any kind of headset that plays the CD - that isn't awkward.:(

Ideas anyone?:?:

01-12-2007, 11:11 AM
Aud, I think you can use an IPOD or something like that to record and use for walking. My kids know what it is but at 57 I know very little. Surely your DD will know.

01-12-2007, 12:07 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm feeling fairly well today. Up early dealing with puppies that won't stay where I put them. I found 2 in the living room this morning. I took them all out and put them in the dog house. It's 61 degrees here now and is supposed to be sleet and snow tomorrow. Out of a total of 12, only five were still in the baby pool this morning. I need a new way to corral the little fellars. They now have sharp little teeth. I can't put them in a playpen caused they'd chew the mesh sides apart.

aud, as for my step-daughter and her DH , I think they're both nuts. Dysfunctional family is right. I do think she may have a gambling problem. I've went to bingo with her and seen her go through tons of money trying to win. Also, found stacks of scratch off lotto things in her car and my car when she was driving it.

As for the "Uncle Pat" I do know there is nothing going on there. He is never around. He works on an off-shore drilling rig in Alaska. Has a wife of 30 years and several kids. Makes great money. The only way she can contact him is by phone. As far as her being on "crack" , I don't think she is now. But, I do think she was on it after her first child. The reason why is after first baby she lost about 60 lbs. and was having pseudo-seizure type things that were very strange. Unlike anything I'd seen in 20 yrs. as a nurse. Would go limp, shake , her eyes would roll back in her head and she'd not know what happened. More than once I had to take the baby from her arms before she dropped him. This went on for several months. This time after her pregnancy she hasn't lost any of the weight and she isn't doing this weird behavior. My DH thought she was on drugs of some type at that time. She did go to the ER and they never could expalin what was wrong with her. Put her on mega-doses of Valium. Her brain CT's came back normal and they said she wasn't actually having seizures.

I am still trying to get my dang car back. She is supposed to bring it home today and clean it out. Anytime she has it, it's a pig sty. Totally full of junk food wrappers and baby junk.

Last night me, DH and DS went to the Outback for dinner. Needless to say, I didn't stay on program. I was sure I was in Ketosis and screwed that up royally. I'm back on program today.

My son's sergeant told him to get his "financial" matters in hand. He had me go to the bank with him and added my name to his account so I can pay his bills for him if and when he's deployed. All the signs are there.

01-12-2007, 12:22 PM
Lily, did your son's unit go to iraq while your son was someplace else? Did I understand that correctly? If so, ....and it looks like things are moving for him, make sure he has his vaccinations he needs before he goes. (all arranged thru the military) My stepson, had quite a few things he had to get before he was deployed. One was for anthrax, and some others he never specified. But if your son wasnt close to the unit at the time of deployment, he may not have gotten any of this stuff done. Check with him....make sure.

01-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Robin, his unit was sent when he was in basic and AIT. His unit is now currently updating all their shots. He hates shots and has been complaining of how many he has just gotten last weekend. They also updated their lifesaver skills last weekend even though it wasn't time til May for them to update on that. Had to put IV's in each other and such. He usually knows a yr. in advance where he'll be scheduled for summer training. This time there isn't a schedule for it. From what I know, he'll only get 48 hrs. notice if being deployed. They'll go to Fort Hood, Texas for 3 months of training first. Then to Kuwait to get acclimated to the desert weather and more training for a few months and then to Iraq.. His job description is "demolitions expert".

01-12-2007, 01:43 PM
well thats good! My stepson has been out of town all week, so we havent heard anything. It was orginally thought he was going to be heading over mid december...but things get changed so fast. He'll hear rumours about time of deployment, and when (about). So you'll be a bit better prepared mentally when he actually goes. I'll keep everything crossed hoping he stays home.

beach bum
01-12-2007, 01:58 PM
Hi Ladies :)

Just wanted to say Hi:wave:Busy the last couple of days,today I went with my DH to have blood work for his up coming Catscan this Tues.Won't be able to go with him next Tues as we're donating a sofa bed and wing chair to the Salvation Army to make room for my new GYM. Going to get my treadmill up stairs. Have the bike already in the computer room. No more guest room for us ,as no one ever visited us in the tens years we're up here. [except our DD & DS] & they only came up when my DH had the cancer.
If some one comes up here we're going to bring out the air bed & set it up in our living room.Sounds selfish ,but I need a place where I can exercise every day as my DH Naps in the living room.So we decided on letting the guest room go.

PhoenixSong-Thanks for your kind words.Hoping that I'm going to reach my goal this year,as in years past I got close but than the grain carbs brought me back to square one.

Hugs :) BB

01-12-2007, 02:12 PM
Can't believe that I totally forgot to say when Posting in my Marathon Catch-Up Posts that all of our wonderful soldiers remain in my prayers - and have added their Special Moms.:hug: Hang In There! Military/Deployed DS's must be ranked right at the top of a Mothers Worst Nightmare.:( Prayers flying out to beachie & dh as well! LOVIN' the OUT with the Guest Room - IN with the exercise room move beachb!!!

Quick Note: My Beloved Nephew (now 31) became involved with a gal--"Mother" of 2 that he loves like his own. (14 yr old girl---newborn son/neither with bio Dad's.) Long Story Short: She was/is a prescription pain pill freak/addict/scammer. Stole from everyone in our family - on CASUAL visits. My Sis always bailing them out - he bgan to act strangely - turns out that he has turned into a raging methamphetamine user (like so many in the rural MO county I'm from.) Reached crisis proportions during a drug fueled argument/fight/arrests - when she grabbed her juvenile diabetic DD's insulin kit and injected herself with enuf to kill a horse in front of him and the now 3 yr old son.:( :( :(

Gee, this is getting long - my apologies.

Conclusion: Both went to rehab and are supposedly "clean" now - behavior over the Txgiving/Christmas Holidays (avoidance) - set off the not always accurate Aud-Sniffer - but remain hopeful.

Must log off b4 I get into the gambling addict Siblings Sagas . . . :D :D

01-12-2007, 03:19 PM
Hey guys sorry that i have not been on. We have had a lot going on around here. I am trying to catch up here today. I am going to also try and start checking in with you guys every morning. i have explained the whole atkins thing to my husband and he is more understanding of it all now and is going to also start exercising with me. So i am pretty excited about it. Well i am off to catch up on posts.

01-12-2007, 07:05 PM
BB, WTG on getting you a home gym set up. I've done the same thing. Now, if I'd just get my butt in there and use it.

We are in for major ice storm. Freezing rain right now. I am cold, cold , cold. We have moved firewood under the deck for in case the electricity goes off, like it usually does with an ice storm. Food is stocked well, so we'll be OK. At least I have a gas cook stove and a small generator that will keep the fridge running for us. This weather is crazy, it was 61 degrees when I got up and took pups out this morning. Temps have fallen dramatically. I got all the pups back in now and put up a baby gate to keep them in one room. Best I can really do as it's too cold for them now outside. Molly is plenty big enough to step over the gate to go in and feed them.

aud, the story with your nephew sounds a lot like what we've been through. Glad to hear they went to rehab. My DH's step-brother has been to rehab a dozen times for meth and always gets back on it. He doesn't have nothing to do with DH since my DH is a cop. The drug problem here in our small rural community is horrible too. DH never tells me when he is going to be doing a drug raid because he knows it scares me to death. He's the one that kicks the door in and goes in first.

ilovemike, glad to hear you're getting your DH's support with Atkins. That will help so much.

She still hasn't brought my dang car back. I tried to go get it and she isn't home. GrRRRRRRRR.

01-13-2007, 11:13 AM
Good morning. If I go missing for a few days wanted you all to know it's because of the ice storm we're getting. Power lines and trees are covered in ice. TV keeps saying to prepare for power outages. You can bet I'll be huddled up by the fireplace keeping warm. Good day everyone. Even my 2 kitties that normally stay outside are inside to keep warm. Feels like I have a Zoo in my house right now. Can you only imagine how many times a day I do laundry and change out the puppies blankets . Also my carpet shampooer has never seen this much work. That Spot Dot thing works great for quick clean up of puppy mess.

Last night I weighed myself , then picked up a pup and weighed holding a pup. They are 3 lbs. now. Except the runt, he's a lot smaller.

My eating has been good and I'm back on track. Had only 13 carbs yesterday. I plan to get back in Ketosis and lose a couple lbs. I really like seeing that scale move and that makes it hard for me with maintenance. But, I seem to always be fluctuating a few lbs. so there is always some to take off. My appetite has really been low lately and I haven't been eating much. I sometimes have days when I'm really hungry, but not lately. I prefer to keep my weight at 140-143, that seems to be when I feel my best and my tummy feels it's flattest. I wish I had a skinny tummy, but it's not happening.

beach bum
01-13-2007, 03:49 PM
Hi Ladies:)

Nothing new to report today. Its raining and we're going back into mild weather until next Wed.and than the fun should begin as winter will be finally among us. Shouldn't complain as we had a warm & nice weather all of Nov,Dec and part of Jan.
LILY-Thanks, I'm really excited about setting up my gym. I used to use my treadmill every day,but when we moved I had no room for it. Now thats going to be a different story and hopefully I will be able to lose faster. The room will have 3 pcs of equipment my stationery bike:ebike: treadmill :tread: and stepper:sumo: Now I will need a small tv with a dvd player and I'll be all set.

AUD-Thanks,As I told Lily I'm ready to start a new trend in my exercising routine.Thanks for the prayers also.Soory to hear about your nephew & his friend Hope they stay clean from now on.

Have a nice weekend

Hugs :) BB

01-13-2007, 06:20 PM
Ahhhh beachie . . . bet these last 20 or so lbs will really melt/turn to muscle now! I've got a bowflex in the garage - used to be the centerpiece in our dining room! LOL!:D Haven't made it out there in ages - a really good work out too.:(

Meth is the scourge of Rrual America, I think. When I go "down home" for visits - seems like I always am seeing another skeletal old friend - who I BARELY will recognize . . . more teeth missing.:( I bet you do worry lily - so many horror stories about explosions. Couldn't BELIEVE the special I saw about the poisonous ingredients of this crud - I was no stranger to casual drug use in the mid to late 70's - but THIS STUFF is so dayum POISONOUS - can easily imagine myself "just saying NO" to it - just like I did when all my teen GF's were doing "poppers" and when I asked them what it was made out of and they said "embalming fluid" - laughed and shook my head!

Just didn't sound FUN, ya know? Just like - fertilizer and Drano and cold pills and whatever else that's in that stuff doesn't sound real good.

Another relaxing/do nothing waiting on the ice storm day . . . Hope everyone is safe and sound!

01-13-2007, 11:02 PM
Did my official WI and was disappointed that it hadn't gone down even a pound....and then proceeded to eat junk food. What a waste! I mean, yes, I made sure to eat it slow as to enjoy it..but then realized it really wasn't what I wanted to eat anyway. So messed up for....NO REASON! UGH! OK, so tomorrow's another day.
Just a note about military nephew/Godchild is in the Army, came home for Christmas and told us that because his training is done...that his unit is "on reserve" or something like that to go to Iraq. I'm taking it that means it's just a matter of more training for that before he's shipped out. So I feel for you all!!!
Hugs---and don't forget your water (I keep forgetting mine!)

01-14-2007, 01:59 AM
Hi everyone. I still have power so far. It's cold and icy here. I'm staying inside by the fireplace. Playing cards and drinking coffee.

BB, I badly need to get myself back to my exercise routine. It's been hard lately as DH has been working 3AM to 3PM and is going to bed early at night in the room where my treadmill is. I'm very tired early of the day and don't like to exercise til night when I have my energy boost. I've used my elliptical some, but it's in the room with the puppies for now. We are going to move it to our room. I never want to wake the pups up while I exercise and if they're awake they are all over the place. Part of it is, I'm lazy and I need to get over it and Exercise.

aud, Yes, , I see lots of people around here that are skin and bones with 1/2 their teeth rotted out due to Meth. It's a real problem. I would never have tried that junk, for sure.

Brenda, I hope your nephew doesn't have to go back to Iraq. My son's unit seems to be "gearing up" to go.

I haven't been drinking the water like I did last week. I sure need to remember to do this too.

aud, thanks for the prayers to our military family. My son going over there is a nightmare for me. I worry about what he'll be exposed to and how it'll effect him. My DH was the 2nd police officer at the scene of the Oklahoma City bombing and he still has nightmares about it. He has definitely suffered Post traumatic stress from it. I was working in Okla. City at the time and was in charge of one of the hospital morgues. I never got over it either.

01-14-2007, 07:05 AM
Just wanted to pop in and let everyone know I'm still here. I have not posted my food in a few days, but Im still on track. Aud and Lily, Hope you make it through the ice with no power loss. When we get ice we are usually one of the last to get it restored since we are the only ones on one of the lines. I feel your anxiety.
Jokemo, I saw your post. Congrads on your 10lbs. That's so exciting!
Never knew how hard it could be to choose a new refrigerator, but we did that yesterday and Im excited for Wednesday when it arrives.

01-14-2007, 07:08 AM
Did anyone see this? Who thought this was a good idea? So sad:
SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- A woman who competed in a radio station's contest to see how much water she could drink without going to the bathroom died of water intoxication, the coroner's office said Saturday.

Jennifer Strange, 28, was found dead Friday in her suburban Rancho Cordova home hours after taking part in the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest in which KDND 107.9 promised a Nintendo Wii video game system for the winner.

"She said to one of our supervisors that she was on her way home and her head was hurting her real bad," said Laura Rios, one of Strange's co-workers at Radiological Associates of Sacramento. "She was crying, and that was the last that anyone had heard from her."

It was not immediately known how much water Strange consumed.

A preliminary investigation found evidence "consistent with a water intoxication death," said assistant Coroner Ed Smith.

John Geary, vice president and marketing manager for Entercom Sacramento, the station's owner, said station personnel were stunned when they heard of Strange's death.

"We are awaiting information that will help explain how this tragic event occurred," he said.

Initially, contestants were handed 8-ounce bottles of water to drink every 15 minutes.

"They were small little half-pint bottles, so we thought it was going to be easy," said fellow contestant James Ybarra of Woodland. "They told us if you don't feel like you can do this, don't put your health at risk."

Ybarra said he quit after drinking five bottles. "My bladder couldn't handle it anymore," he added.

After he quit, he said, the remaining contestants, including Strange, were given even bigger bottles to drink.

"I was talking to her and she was a nice lady," Ybarra said. "She was telling me about her family and her three kids and how she was doing it for her kids."

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01-14-2007, 11:21 AM
Hi, we still have power, thankfully. It is cold, but I'm staying inside and doing fine.

Justwill, I hadn't heard that story. That is terrible. I know I couldn't hold much water without peeing, wouldn't even try it. We have had local contests here of people standing for us much as a week with their hand on a new vehicle in attempt to win a free car. My friends DH did this about a yr. ago. After standing for about 6 days without sleep he started having seizures. This type of stuff is dangerous. He's OK now. but we were all very worried about him. His sister won the car and he came in second place and got nothing. They started with 10 contestants.