General chatter - Nutrisystem's New Slogan
"Lose weight and get back in the game."
The "game", I'm assuming, means life.
So, what are they saying? That overweight people have no place in society and can't PLAY the game of life because they're fat? And that because they're overweight they've just dropped off the face of the earth until they're thin?
Am I just looking at this the wrong way or does anyone else feel slightly offended by that remark?
Have a happy new year, everyone!
12-31-2006, 12:25 PM
Just another example of how our society looks at us that are over-weight. It is so frustrating! So yes it does offend me.
12-31-2006, 01:55 PM
I will be honest my weight does hold me back....for instance I am not going skiing in the mountains this xmas because I feel too out of shape and heavy...and none of my ski clothes fit me....I also avoid social outings for the same reason....I don't think that they are that far off the mark for ME.
12-31-2006, 02:00 PM
I'm with Liz on this one, I tend to not want to do things or go places if i feel "fat". Does that make sense? OTOH, if I am steadily losing and feel healthy, I want to always be out and about.
12-31-2006, 02:02 PM
I think the slogan was written more for the ex football player spokesman and trying to hit the male market
12-31-2006, 03:09 PM
LLV, I for one was not in the game. I was watching from the sidelines. Not participating in life. I'm first getting back into it now ........ slowly.
Having said that, I don't care for the slogan. I do feel that it is a put down. Kinda like I'm allowed to call me fat, but no one else is. Does that make sense?
12-31-2006, 03:31 PM
I'm thinking "the game" doesn't refer to life - but more to something athletic or has a sportsy theme.
12-31-2006, 03:38 PM
My life was on hold for 10 years. "When I lose weight I will......."
12-31-2006, 04:20 PM
I do think the concept that you have to lose weight FIRST to get back in the game is insulting, but there are an awful lot of people who feel like life is going on without them when they are heavy.
I think you "get back in the game" when you decide to take your life back. A more apporpriate statement might be "Get back in the game, and you might lose weight in the process"
12-31-2006, 04:23 PM
I think the slogan is a little silly, if it's a metaphor for life, or just a reference to sports. I'm no advertising writer, but I think they could have come up with something better. But I agree with the posters about my life being put on hold when I was morbidly obese -- I had no friends, no boyfriend, and I didn't even have a job for nearly a year. And now I have an awesome job, great friends, and an amazing boyfriend. All of which have DIRECTLY been an effect of my weight loss. I'm not saying any of those were possible THEN, but I just felt like I didn't deserve or couldn't get them I tried. It probably was more of a factor of motivation rather than actual possibility. I think that's what society doesn't understand -- it's a choice of living life "on the sidelines." We CAN, but because of our personal ideals or feelings, we CHOOSE not to.
12-31-2006, 06:19 PM
I'm inclined to believe it means life, but like others have said...when I was overweight, I did just sit on the sidelines. I didn't do much of anything. I was tired all the time, and didn't really enjoy life. Going to work was a chore, coming home was a sigh of relief so I could plop down at the TV or computer. I'm not easily offended anyway, but I find nothing offensive about the slogan. I find it to be pretty much hitting the nail on the head.
12-31-2006, 06:56 PM
I think the "game" applies to whatever YOU need it to be.....could be a sport, an activity such as walking, playing with the kids or grandkids at the park rather than taking them there and watching, having the courage to be seen in public, the energy to get from the car to an event, etc. Each of us is different in our weight issues. The company deals with people losing weight and obviously is in business to make money. I think one would have to "read something into it that isn't there" to find anything offensive with that particular slogan.
12-31-2006, 07:11 PM
Let's just say they know to whom they are marketing! They're marketing to all the folks who don't let themselves do whatever because of being overweight. There are a lot of people out there like that. Too many folks hang all of their self-worth on the scale. No way I could sit anything out for being fat, what the heck would I have done the last ten years?
12-31-2006, 07:42 PM
I feel that while Nutrisystem is a very convenient plan, it's not a practical one. I'm sure folks lose weight on the program, but how can it be long term? Does it teach them how to make the meals that they are eating? Do they learn how to prepare food more nutritiously? I hear that the plan costs $10 a day for one person. $300/ave per month for 1 PERSON. I don't spend nearly that much on my whole family's grocery budget. Also, I've read the fine print that says you purchase fresh fruits and vegetables on your own on the program. While I agree with the fact that we should all get a proper amount of fruits and vegetables a day, I think that nutrisystem and others like it, are way too expensive and in the long run, it's not really teaching us how to take responsibility in our own kitchens, at restaurants, etc...
That would be my biggest problem with Nutrisystem. Also, it doesn't say anything about fitness. Some of those women who've lost 100+ lbs would not be that lean looking without a considerable amount of exercise. So it's quite misleading.
12-31-2006, 08:02 PM
I think most of us agree that the plan itself is not ideal....I continue to believe that the impact of obesity on people's lives is significant...physically, emotionally and otherwise..which is why nutrisystem and all other "diet" plans/programs are such big money makers.
01-01-2007, 04:54 PM
OK I wasn't going to comment after reading this thread-but I clicked back to the main topic list and there at the top was a banner for my own beloved SBD' site and the tag line "Hello Compliments-Goodbye Cravings"
One thing that I REALLY am NOT comfortable with is people feeling as though they have the right to comment on me/my body/my weight loss etc-I am NOT public property and I definately did not lose weight to get leered at by strangers or those who only knew me only in passing. Friends/family being supportive is one thing-but having the town "He Ho" tell me that now he feels he can do ANYTHING if I had lost that "INSURMOUNTABLE amount of weight"
and yes-he thought he was making a compliment. I didnt cure cancer or cause world peace-I lost weight-THAT isnt insurmoutable OMG.
God forbid I hit goal. LOL
01-02-2007, 12:53 AM
About nutrisystem - my fiance and I always laugh at the 2 distinctly different commercials they have that target women vs. men.
For instance, the women one - "i went from a size 10 to a size 4!!! You can do it, too! I love chocolate - and this diet lets me eat chocolate EVERY DAY!!!"
For the men: "Is your sex life struggling? Order nutrisystem and get these BIG, RIB-STICKING MEALS that leave you SATISFIED! Thanks to nutrisystem, my love life is better than EVER!"
Those are our favorite commercials, just because we get such a good laugh.
01-02-2007, 11:13 AM
Smart: I agree...it's so funny the difference in what motivates men and women. First of all, the fact that Dan Marino is on a weight loss campaign is hysterical. I mean, he's an athlete. I know, he's not been an 'active' athlete for a few years, but he's got to have some serious underlying muscle under a half inch or so of added flab...for him to lose 22 pounds would take him walking around the block every day for a couple weeks. Do you know what I'm saying? For someone to have been a professional athlete for DECADES, to go soft for five years or so and lose 20 pounds is nothing. Oh, and then they add the girls in bikinis checking him out on the beach, for additional reason to buy Nutrisystem. Hello! He's Dan Marino! So, for the women, promise them chocolate...for the men, promise them blondes in bikinis!Anyhow...I agree that Nurtisystem is a horrible copout on the weightloss road. You're right, it doesn't teach you anything about how to have a healthier liftstyle. It teaches that with the right amount of money, Nutrisystem can make you skinny!
As for the slogan - get back in the game: I, for one, don't really mind it as much as the aforementioned hidden messages. I mean, I DON'T feel much like going anywhere or doing anything when I'm 20 pounds overweight, but I DO feel like doing things and going places and living life when I'm lighter on my toes and feel confident in my looks. If that's what they mean, I agree with them...losing weight makes me want to get back in the game. Its not that we're not 'allowed' in the game with extra weight...we just feel more like being part of it all when we're perkier, I guess. JMHO to be taken or left.
01-02-2007, 02:36 PM
People / businesses do seem to go overboard at times and end up hurting people's feelings in some way or the other... Be it nutrisystem or jenny craig..you cannot buy their products for lifetime unless you get paid to do that like kirstey alley... so these plans are not practical to beging with.
As fat as logos or slogans go: I was somewhat offended with a book "why french women dont get fat?"...what does the author mean? Its such a discriminatory sentence..besides she did not even look up any statistics before claiming so! and the whole book had nothing new (just said wait 20 minutes before your next serving and climb/walk instead of driving anywhere....) and was a great success!!!!
We already know how unfair the society is : tara connor was totally judged on outer beauty when thousands of women were probably rejected becoz they were a pound or two overweight or an inch or two short!!!
Studies also prove that goodlooking and better figured people get caught more often but get lesser traffic tickets and skinnier people get more academic or professional success!
If I crib about these things...people ask me to ignore what others think or face these things or lose my weight...rather than fighting discrimination and doing something about others and not about me!
01-02-2007, 03:11 PM
I always associated those weight loss plans to people who were already an okay size and wanted to be skinnier (eg, I went from a size 10 to a size 4, please! my goal is a 14!) but never really considered that those types of programs would even work for me. Not that I would want to do them.
Saw an interesting one the other day for Slimfast that was actually geared toward real women in all sized instead of the emaciated people that they show on some other commercials. It was nice to see them using plus sized models as their "get to YOUR goal" advertisement...
But I still wouldn't use slimfast either. Same quick fix to a long term problem. It sure is interesting to see them try though... and so many people try it.
My aunt lost a ton of weight with Nuitrasystem back in the 80's... but once she stopped the program the lbs "magically" reappeared.
01-02-2007, 07:45 PM
Ok so it's probaby a good thing I dont watch TV at home-but today at the gym while on the treadmill-I saw the nutrisystem commercial with Dan Morino-and with him and every other example it had the disclaimer "RESULTS NOT TYPICAL" well hel-LOOOO what 'would' be typical then? what are the averages? Out of how many clients-what percentage lose how much?????
01-02-2007, 08:27 PM
LIzziness: I tried Slimfast in the late 80's early 90's and lost some, but had HORRIBLE GAS while taking it. Especially at the gym in the weight room and I had to keep walking away from a machine going, "Gawd, what IS that SMELL?" as if it was some mysterious odor coming from the machines or someone else around me. It was awful. I later found out that if you have the LEAST bit of lactose intolerance, this will kick it in tenfold and exasperate the problem and that many people experienced long-term problems from it. Scary, huh?
01-02-2007, 09:08 PM
Darnit TECH~ now I have to go apologize to my dog...I thought it was her!
01-02-2007, 11:04 PM
Yeah I kinda hate that woman who's all "a size TEN to a size two" and she says 10 like she just said "leper".
I'd love to be a size 10 right now! !@#$!@ hehe
I think I will write to Nutrisystem and ask them to please be sure to send me the food for women and not for men because I don't want chicks in bikinis to look at me. I just want the chocolate and the dress size plan.
01-03-2007, 02:03 AM
Actually, a good number of the most popular diets out there feature women who go from a normal size to a distinctly abnormal one. It does seem that the ones advertised on TV are the worst offenders (6 Week Body Makeover, anyone?), but I've seen it even in Weight Watchers' magazine. And Body for Life for Women's success story section featured nothing but women who went from a healthy body fat percentage to an unhealthy one, by the book's own standards.
It's an unattainable (and rather stupid, in many cases) ideal. And we keep falling for it.
I've said it before and I will say it again: the diet industry is predicated upon the failure of its customers. If we don't stay fat, they don't keep selling books, supplements, what have you.
01-04-2007, 12:45 AM
Ok, they SAY they go from a 10 to a 4, BUT...anyone else look at those girls and say, "if you're a 4 I'm a monkey's uncle!"?
01-04-2007, 08:49 PM
This is one of the most hysterical threads, I've read in a long time. Thank you all who contributed! (snickers)
01-04-2007, 10:20 PM
ooh slimfast would kill me then. all i have to do is think about milk and my stomach starts to revolt against me.
So I'm home sick with nothing better to do but watch endless amounts of TV and play on the interwebs and what do I see? The most hilarious commercial ... and then I realize it isn't a joke and they are serious.. has anyone else seen the commercial for "Slim Coffee"? OMG it's so bizzare. No need to exercise, no need to change your diet in any way, just drink a cup with every meal and lose up to 5 lbs a week. Seriously, this commercial is shot in that sort of homemade porno sorta way... it's just wrong. So very wrong...