300+ and Ready to Try again #507 [Archive] - 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community

ageoldie

03-23-2004, 10:42 AM

well, after all the discussion of the numbering of the threads, I figured that I didn't have an excuse to keep posting on the old thread. I will have to practice on getting the colors right.

I'm still not feeling well and skipped the health club today, I think I'm going into the bedroom and trying my balance ball tape. Oxycise is great and I recommend it to everyone. I do have great sucess with loosing inches when I do it consistently, but like with everything else in my life, it's like a roller coaster high one week, low the next. I had done almosttwo week when I got sick, and haven't tried it since. I will get back to it soon. Beside the loss of inches, It just makes me feel better all over.

A close family friend died yesterday. He has been sick quite a while and has been going downhill fairly rapidly since he fell and broke his shoulder New Years Eve. He was like a mentor to my DH and he was very close to him. Keep all of us in your prayers.

Well, I've rattled on quite a while for someone having nothing to say.

thinthinker

03-23-2004, 12:03 PM

Morning everyone! :wave: I finally crawled in bed at 4:15 this morning. Geez, hate when honey is out of town! I really did crash when my head hit the pillow though so that's a good thing.

Barbg: Thanks for starting the new thread. You're right, we needed it. :) Don't forget to leave the "STOP" message on the old thread just in case somebody goes to the wrong one and doesn't see the new one. * Hey, BTW, do you guys have a website or something for your business? My friend said someone she's related to (sorry, can't remember who now: brother, maybe) is into old Mustangs and I was talking about you. If so, could you PM it to me? Thanks.

2cute: Hope you got some of your taxes done and that you can rest easier. You've got a real load on your plate this Spring and it would be only natural for you to feel a bit overwhelmed. Try to relax and do talk to your doctor about the mood swings. There is help for that. {{{hugs}}}

Barb: Hope you have a great day at work. You sure have made a quick recovery from your surgery. I'm so happy for you. Is DH doing better? I sure hope so. An infection is nothing to sneeze at and when it's "you know where" that would be even more concerning.

Terri: How cool that you and DH are doing so well. I bet that is really a jump to your program that you are now both following it. That's a real kick about the Stovetop, isn't it. 1/2 cup sure isn't very much! :( Sorry, no Deadwood here. No HBO. I did see the print ad for it and thought it would be something I might like. I'm so sick of the same old dramas all the time. As much as I like law and order, just how many versions of it do we need? And CSI. I like it fine, but did we need 2? I really crave something DIFFERENT and a western might just be the thing. I'll be waiting to hear if you can get into it.

Lucky: :lucky: Have a great day at work!

Well, girls, I'm going to head out of here. I've got one report to do from yesterday and then I think I'll go out and do a couple of "bank jobs" I have to clean up before the end of the week. No sense procrastinating any longer. :no:

You all have a GREAT day! Love :love: ya bunches.

chequitagirl

03-23-2004, 01:17 PM

barb sorry to hear about the loss. you and yours are definately in prayers. hope everyone is having a great tuesday.

thinthinker

03-23-2004, 01:41 PM

Hi again! :wave:

I knew I missed someone.

Syn: Hope you are feeling much better by now. * How's your love life! :D

Barbg: Also forgot to mention how sorry I am for your loss. It's always hard to see friends deteriorate and pass. My thoughts and prayers are with you. [[[hugs]]]

Audrey: Sure is nice to see you. Come and talk about your life. We'd love to get to know you better.

Well, honey just called and I'm soooooo jealous. He's in Nashville, as I told you, visiting a customer with a few other people from his company. Well last night, the client took them out on the town for dinner and then they all went off on their own. Well, they stopped in the Wild Horse Saloon and walked into a concert by Montgomery Gentry!!! OMG! And my honey doesn't care for country music, I DO!!! He said it was really cool because there were camera crews there because they were taping a show for the troops. He was the DD (designated driver) and they went to a blues club after that. Now, this is my honey who is not at all into late nights, or bar scenes. :o Wish I was there!

Well, heading out.....again. You all take care and have a GREAT day!

BarbPA

03-23-2004, 06:52 PM

Hi Ladies -
This is going to be quick, but I wanted to say Hello! I'm proud to say I have been keeping my journal the past couple days and have been eating healthy! Now to get back to that exercise thing!!
:tread: :strong:

Barb.g - I am so sorry for your loss. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
:grouphug:
Thanks for starting the new thread.

Thin - Thanks for asking, DH is doing ok --- he is still rather swollen and uncomfortable. {{{grimacing while typing these words}}} Fortunately he's not in much pain - just uncomfortable. It doesn't appear to be an infection, rather fluid retention. He goes back to the Doc on Friday. I have bounced back well from my surgery. I still feel a little tired and headachy, not sure if the they are related. How much fun would that be --- to be in Nashville and walk into a concert like that!! :p :cool: :D

Ok, I warned you it would be quick....I have to get on the road and deal with my commute home. (When do we get a road rage smiley?) :lol:

Have a great night!
:)Barb

Terri in MO

03-23-2004, 10:09 PM

Hi ladies!

Sitting here watching American Idol, relaxing. Those kids are really good tonight - well at least so far! :D

Day four totally OP! Tonight DH made a grilled hamburger steak (6 oz) and roasted asparagus. Delicious!

Today was kind of a bad body day. I felt like I was dragging around a 10 pound ball on my leg. *whine momemt* I am so sick of this air cast thing. *whine over*. I just felt tired all day. I guess because I didn't sleep well last night because DH was snoring so loudly last night. The dog and I moved to the living room. I slept in the recliner and he slept under my feet.

Barb.g - I'm so sorry about the loss of your friend. You'll be in my prayers. {{{hugs}}

Barb - I agree - where is the road rage smiley?! Hope your drive home was uneventful. Poor DH! Take good care of him - spoil him rotten. :D Good job about getting back to the journalling! It does make a difference.

Thin - Great post! What were you doing up until 4:15 am????? You night owl ladies amaze me. Montgomery Gentry? Oooh, lala! Lucky DH! You'll have to harass him about being a party hound on the road. :rofl:

Audrey - I agree with Thin - we'd love to know more about you!

Wonder if I should rescue DH? He got down on the floor and the dog is mauling him. On second thought, he knows better.

Hello to everyone else! We need more posters. Have a great Tuesday evening!!

BabySteps

03-23-2004, 11:23 PM

Well, tomorrow I am starting the Dr.Phil program for the eating part, I am going to also work out BFL style. I went ahead and purchased both of his books today. I do think I need structure to my eating, so here goes. I should be shrinking any minute ;)

BabySteps

VermontChick

03-24-2004, 12:26 AM

Hey girls -

Barbg: *HUG*..I'm sorry for your loss :( I never know what to say in situations like this. I bet it's harder wondering what dh is going through, huh? I hate hospitals because I've spent so many hours in them, waiting for loved ones to pass on..namely my grandfather. I just couldn't hack nursing because of it..I can't deal with grief..and I especially cannot deal with watching elderly people suffer..I mean obviously I don't like to see anyone suffer, but it seems to tug more on my heart strings when the geriatric population is involved.

I just looked at the "men's corner" forum..it hasn't been updated since March 14 :lol:...how sad to be a man on a diet at the 3fc website!!! (Makes you wonder about their lifestyle, if they're on a chick's weight loss web site :p)

Today was sooo good...seriously...whenever I go through emotional turmoil I lose my appetite..believe it or not I had to force myself to eat breakfast and lunch :lol:

Thin...thanks SO much for your insight...Owen and I have an agreement...just what you said..what's good for the goose is good for the gander! He wants me to go out and meet guys too...except I sorta forgot how to do that *scratches head*..I'm not into the bar scene...I have been feeling better about it lately though. Thin, you heretic how can you like country music?? Ok I'm kidding. But seriously..can't stand it for some reason. I LOVE the old school stuff though...i'm talking Johnny Cash, the Oakridge Boys. I also like Bluegrass which some people may confuse for country..well I Guess it is..but it's much more accoustic and authentic..one of my favorite bands is a cute bluegrass group called Nickel Creek.

So now I have more time to focus on my spirituality..for some reason it seems to get compromised at times when I'm in a serious relationship.

Barb: Where do you work that you are always using a laptop to write to us? :D

Terri: You're seriously addicted to that show, aren't you? :lol:...I love it too..but I've never been much of a tv person..and I always seem to forget to watch it Tuesdays and Wednesdays...

Babysteps:
Be sure to tell us how dr phil's program works!! I'm always wiling to try new things on this journey...Is it low carb?

Well girls it's bed time...

2cute2Bfat

03-24-2004, 01:34 AM

MissMeliss... I have one word for you.... YEEEE HAW !!!! :lol: :rofl:
I don't know if that is even a word... but I have to put my shout in for Garth Brook and Faith Hill to name only two. LOL
On American Idol tonight I thought that one girl IMPROVED Willie Nelsons song. LOL
I am just joking with you... but I am a "partial" country music girl. LOL
I don't like all of them... but I love some too. Especially Garth.

Thin... I don't know my country that well. I had to go to google.com and find out who Montgomery Gentry was. :o LOL There are always 2 guys pictured... is the one in black Montgomery and the other Gentry ?? I know I have heard him sing before and he was good... but I only remember seeing the guy in black.

Terri... I was not as impressed with tonights Amer Idol. :no: I thought everyone did okay... but only a couple of "really good". I still think that John Peter guy is out of his league completely. I never understand what people see in him. :?: My favorites 'tonight' were the last two. But I think several have great voices. I guess I was ready for something peppy. LOL

Babysteps.. I bought DrPhils book and have not opened it yet. Maybe we can read it together... and share what we like and dislike.

Audrey... I have to ask .... why don't you post more ?? You are a very caring person and always offer support... but you don't tell us much about YOU. ???

Barb.g ... I am so sorry for your loss. Even when they have been ill ...it is hard to accept.

BarbPA... as usual... congrats on keeping up with your weight loss program.
You are such an inspiration here... along with several others.

Okay ladies... have a great day !!!!
My Monday motivation was to not repeat Monday night meal Tuesday ...... and I succeeded. :)
My Tuesday Tip.... don't have it in the house. Had I had it in the house today... I would have eaten it. :lol: Don't bring it into the house and you can't eat it. LOL

Terri in MO

03-24-2004, 09:33 AM

Good morning ladies!

Not much time this morning. I did some exercise this morning and made lunch so that I can have day 5 OP! Helping DH get a grip on what foods are best, what foods are better to limit, and real portion sizes has been an eye-opener for me. We have been measuring everything and calculating points and discussing what to eat BEFORE we eat it. I know that people, including myself, don't like to weigh and measure food; don't like to count points or calories; don't like to write it down; don't like to eat veggies or fruit; don't like to drink water, etc. Its either do those things we don't like and lose weight like we want or else just stay fat. That is my conclusion. If we aren't willing to put in the effort to get a grip about food and if we aren't willing to separate the emotions from food, then we will not be successful in the long term.

So maybe my Wednesday "weigh-in" isn't a number on a scale. But a measure for all of us to think about - how much do we really want this success? Think about what you're willing to do.

2Cute - Good job for not repeating Monday!! Now do it again today!! You know you can. :drill:

Meliss - I wouldn't say that I'm seriously addicted; just that there are few shows that we sit down to enjoy and I actually remembered that it was on last night. Once I get my air cast off; I plan on being up and away from the TV. I too love some of that old country music. Grew up on it as mom put on a stack of albums every Saturday and Sunday morning at 7 am. Too hard to sleep through!!

Have a great day everyone!

2cute2Bfat

03-24-2004, 09:46 AM

RISE AND SHINE !!!!! :sunny:
I was her a half hour ago and did not leave a message. Then got my email telling me someone posted and I immediately regreted not posting. LOL Soooooo... here I am.

Terri... these wise words are worth repeating....
get a grip on what foods are best, what foods are better to limit, and real portion sizes has been an eye-opener for me. We have been measuring everything and calculating points and discussing what to eat BEFORE we eat it. I know that people, including myself, don't like to weigh and measure food; don't like to count points or calories; don't like to write it down; don't like to eat veggies or fruit; don't like to drink water, etc. Its either do those things we don't like and lose weight like we want or else just stay fat. That is my conclusion. If we aren't willing to put in the effort to get a grip about food and if we aren't willing to separate the emotions from food, then we will not be successful in the long term.

So maybe my Wednesday "weigh-in" isn't a number on a scale. But a measure for all of us to think about - how much do we really want this success? Think about what you're willing to do.

Weigh in Wednesday can mean weigh and measure your food... just for today even.
Just to open our eyes to just what a real portion size is. Thanks.

Also... WAY in Wednesday. The WAY to lose weight is by DOING ... not wishing. ;)

ageoldie

03-24-2004, 10:16 AM

I also have Dr Phil's book that I haven't opened. Something about him sorta turns me off, so couldn't bring myself to read his book. Let me know if I should get over it and read it.

Just taking it easy today, I decided to take this whole week off from the health club and try to get over this cold/cough whatever it is I have. So this time in the morning is new to me.

Anyone know anything about propogating roses? My son trimmed (? more like chopped) his and brought me several of the parts he cut off and said I could have them to try to grow some for me, but I don't have a clue what to do except just stick in the ground, and I doubt that is the proper way to go about it.

Has anyone check out the new 3FC photo albums? Another thread I post in had the link, and lo & behold one of the "featured" pictures was of one of my shop cats Smokie !! She's a cutie. I have many more pictures of the shop cats than I do the home cats, cause we use the camera at work so much it's always ready, and at home I don't even know where one is. If I'm planning on doing something that I want to take pictures of, I bring one home from work.

Mis Meliss: You asked what I do, and I don't remember if I ever answered you. If I did sorry for the repeat. We (DH ole Alvin and I ) own a business that sells restyling parts for Mustang automobiles. We have just open a new facility, a manufacturing plant to make the fiberglass parts ourselves, and it has been a nightmare from the beginning, but maybe it's beginning to level out. We are now producing parts and things are looking up.

Hope everyone has a great day.

katrinabgood

03-24-2004, 02:36 PM

Hey, hey, hey...whattya say?

Not getting on a scale even IF it's Wednesday!!! (too depressing) :(

But I did take a walk today.

So there.

BabySteps

03-24-2004, 02:59 PM

Well, day one on Dr. Phil, so far so good. I purchased both of the books, I wanted to get the structure on what to eat, how much so I purchased his food guide so I could start the eating part today. It will take me a while to get through the other one, I will get started though. I understand about him rubbing you the wrong way ;) I told my daughter yesterday I thought I would need to make book covers so I don't have to look at him LOL I guess his picture makes me feel criticized, isn't that funny! I can watch the show, cheer the others on, but now that I have the book, I dont want to look at his picture. Crazy I know.

It is kinda low carbish, for breakfast I am allowed one egg and a small amount of high fiber cereal+ low fat milk. Lunch and dinner if protein and veggies, we also get 2 dairy and 2 fruit a day. I don't like to drink milk so for my fruit I picked frozen strawberries, added my milk put in a blender and had a nice smoothie :) I really liked it.

I should have did the treadmill today but I didn't, oh well tomorrow I will get to the club.

Have a great day everyone!!
BabySteps

BlueHairFawn

03-24-2004, 03:56 PM

I am sorry I have not been keeping up. I have been busy trying to get a few things done. I have been writing a little bit too and I was considering a lot of serious things. The ideas and feelings that it brought up were helpful to me, so I hope they might be helpful to you girls too.

I have been doing a lot of thinking. I think a lot. I think sometimes I do it a little too much. However, lately it’s been put to good use. I have been considering what exactly I want from life, and why I do not have it already. I realize that a lot of what keeps me from attaining the goals that I want is an eating disorder. It has taken me a long time to admit to myself that it is serious and it is an eating disorder. Attaining a weight of 464 pounds takes more than just a passing problem with food. But, then I considered something else. Attaining a weight of 464 pounds takes more than even a dangerous problem with food.

I then considered what exactly makes someone try to eat themselves to death. I realized that there were more reasons than I can count. But mostly it just came down to feeling alone, and feeling like I had no real value to other people. Now personally I’ve never had a problem with inner value. Which has made it difficult for me to see that I had a problem with self esteem. I always knew that I was smart. I always knew that I was talented. I always knew that I could do pretty darn good. But I never considered that I could be fabulous. Not just a little bit, but a lot. The reason I never thought I could be fabulous is pretty silly, I just plain didn’t think anyone else would ever see in me what I had a pretty good idea was there. That is the core of my eating disorder. I don’t believe ANYONE will ever really see me, and even if they say they do, and they say they like what they see, I don’t believe them. Why? I couldn’t tell you.

So this brought me right back to what do I really want from life? I want people to see me.

Now if I cant even see me, who can? I have so much flesh wrapped around my soul, screaming “DON’T LOOK!”, that no one can see anything but my sickness. They call it different things. Some feel sorry for me. Some just snicker. Some may not even really think about it. Maybe some couldn’t care less either way. But even they don’t see me, because I am too busy getting them to look at anything else. Anything at all, just please don’t peer inside because what I really am may be there.

It doesn’t make any sense. I know that now, which is a good thing. I realize being what I want to be is the only thing that will get me where I want to go. When you finally get a glimpse of real life after living in a husk for ten years, food just doesn’t seem as delicious.

Sincerely,
Blue
:goodluck:

Stinger766

03-24-2004, 05:27 PM

Hi all.

Sorry I haven't posted a while. I don't have a computer at home and I don't always have time to post from work.

I lost another 3.5 lbs last week so I've lost a total of 32 since 1/12/04. Yippee! I'm still very motivated, more so each day and things couldn't be going better on the weight loss front. I can't believe that I'm actually doing it. It's nice that people are starting to notice too. Maybe this is actually the time that it's going to work and I'll be a normal weight again after 19 years!

Blue, very insiteful comments above. You're young and it's great that you've realized this at your age. I'm almost 38 and I think I'm just now starting to realize the reasons I've let myself get to the 350 I was when I started this.

Again, sorry I'm not here more. I'm trying! :)

Talk to you all soon,

Ingrid

katrinabgood

03-24-2004, 06:55 PM

Wow...some great introspection there, young lady. Put those talents to work for yourself, you have so much to offer the world. Make your goal getting healthy. And hold your head up high, you have nothing to prove to anyone else, do this for yourself. You are truly worth it.

VermontChick

03-24-2004, 08:00 PM

Gah, I'm feeling discouraged because the scale still says "error" whenever I step on it..which means I must have gained way more weigh than I thought since I moved into this house. When I first moved here (in August) it weighed me in perfectly....It's so annoying i feel like im doing it all for no reason...sometimes i wonder if it's actually impossible for some people to lose weight :(

Terri in MO

03-24-2004, 10:56 PM

Good evening ladies,

Hmm, not sure that I have much to say tonight. It was a stressful day at work -but I did not do any stress eating for a change! :bravo: to myself!

DH bought me the Dr. Phil food guide at Sam's for $5 about two weeks ago. I haven't had time to go through it but do want to for ideas.

I agree that he is annoyng. I don't buy that crap about him not doing the WL stuff for money. If not, then why have all the products on the market? And why would his son have a book for teens? Its all about the money. Having said all of that....I do believe that what he says makes sense. It isn't about gimmicks. It is about being healthy. It is about focusing on the emotional or whatever factors behind the weight because it is true that if we don't fix those things, we won't be successful for life. Not very many programs focus on fixing the whys. Who doesn't have emotional baggage?

I've spent the evening working on the checkbook balance since DH wrote a couple of big checks this afternoon. He paid the sales tax and registration on the new boat and then snagged the last boat slip at the marina for a decent price. Since I wasn't available at work, he made an executive decision to pay for it. Glad I still had the income tax refund sitting in the checking! I will give DH credit because he made the finance manager at the boat dealership change the bill of sale on the new boat to reflect the sale of the old boat. It reduced the taxable amount and saved us enough to pay for the slip for the summer. That's his old car salesman coming through because I never would have caught it.

Okay, I have been on the computer all evening. I am headed off to read a magazine and then to bed.

Have a great evening.

Terri in MO

03-24-2004, 11:05 PM

Geez, sorry! I forgot replies!

Blue - Great insight! It is very painful to think of those kinds of things and very brave of you to face it. That's a great step!

Ingrid - :bravo: for your loss!!

Meliss - Can you weigh in at a doctor's office? Don't get discouraged! Keep your focus and you will get there!

Babysteps - Good luck with the Dr. Phil stuff!

Kat - How's DH doing? Isn't he with his parents?

Barb.Go - I had not noticed the 3FC picture forum. I'll have to scout that out.

Now, I'm off to bed!

BarbPA

03-25-2004, 12:12 AM

Hi Everyone!
I am so tired and should probably go to bed, but I wanted to stop in here for a bit first. My mind is somewhat in other places these days. You know DH and I have been through numerous appointments and we've both had surgeries lately...things are now really happening with our fertility treatment. I have an appt. tomorrow morning for another test and a consult. I also am receiving all my medications tomorrow and within the next few days will start daily injections to get my body ready for all this. It is very difficult to think of anything else! Although my healthy lifestyle goes hand in hand with it -- I have to continue to take care of my body so that I can hopefully become pregnant and maintain a pregnancy. I have to take it one step at a time. My Doc said the weight I've lost will only help my chances of success. The only weight complication he has mentioned is that sometimes when overweight women take fertility drugs their ovaries and "fly up" (yes, his words) out of the pelvic area making them difficult to get to. However, he mentioned that one patient that this happened to still ended up getting pregnant. So far they have had no problems finding my ovaries on ultrasounds so hopefully this won't be a problem. I am just trying with all my might to stay positive.

I am considering acupuncture. Has anyone done this? Research shows it improves IVF success rates. Also it's touted as being so relaxing and that's what I need. It's one of the many questions on my list to ask my Dr. tomorrow. I think I am also going to schedule a massage next week. I have a gift certificate from Christmas that I have been saving for the right time - I think that is now!

Hmmm, what else is going on? .... My dad's been having problems since his surgery in Jan. to remove his bladder. He is emotionally drained and having some physical problems. The good news is he went to the Dr. today and they have found the physical problem - something about water retention causing problems in his bowels. Luckily they should be able to improve the prob with meds and if that is corrected his emotional state should come back to normal.

Well, I think that's it for me tonight. Please forgive me for skipping personal replies. I have read everything and am thinking about all of you!

Love Ya!
Barb

P.S. I realize that my posts lately are less and less about weight loss support and more about personal support, and I hope that's not a problem. I view you women all as close friends and I hope you don't mind that I use you for all kinds of support, not just weight. And, you know that I am here for each and everyone of you for any support you need.

2cute2Bfat

03-25-2004, 01:42 AM

Gee I am soooo tired I was not going to reply at all tonight...but Barb... I have had acupuncture for my back. I had probably 20-30 needles in me. It did not hurt at all. You can feel them... but not painful at all. I am a HUGE SISSY when it comes to pain. LOL. I don't know if that helps at all with what you wanted to know... since it had nothing to do with pregnancy.
Hope your dad is better soon.

I am not ignoring the rest of you... I am just really tired. :faint: Barb just happend to be the last poster and happened to have a topic I could hopefully help in.

sleep tight everyone.

Jehari

03-25-2004, 02:07 AM

Hi ladies!

Sorry I've just been lurking and not posting. I've been really out of it the past week. I tried a new anti depressant cuz the Prozac caused a lack of libido, which hasn't been a problem with my DH gone the last year, but was a problem before he left and didn't want it to be a problem when he got home. Well, the new one did NOT work. In fact, it did just the opposite. I've been more depressed than I've been in years. I have NO motivation. All I want to do is lie down all the time. My house is a wreck. I went back to the doc yesterday and said PLEASE give me back my Prozac. So I'm starting back on it today and hopefully there will be an improvement soon. I don't have any reason to be depressed. Everything in my life is going pretty well. I just bought a brand new car, my DH is coming home in 4 weeks, kids are doing great in school, but for some reason nothing makes me happy and I feel like everything sucks. Oh please hurry up and work Prozac.

As for the weight battle, as I said, no motivation so no exercise, but weight is holding steady. No gains, no losses.

Anyhoo, I can't catch up on replies right now. Just checking in. I'll talk at ya'll later,
Jen
:wave:

LuckyLadyBug

03-25-2004, 08:49 AM

Oh oh, I LOVE Dr. Phil. I like his "tell it like it is", because many people (including me) DON'T get real with ourselves.

Also, I believe I read this somewhere but all of his weight loss "earnings" go to some charity or support group.

Well, having confessed all of this I will get to work.

Is it okay if I keep posting here??? :lol: :o :lol:

Babysteps: Is the food guide more helpful than if you just follow what's in the regular book?

2cute2Bfat

03-25-2004, 10:40 AM

Lucky... you are sooo funny. :lol: Yes... even Dr Phil could post here himself. :lol: In fact.. I hope you share his wisdom and "tell it like it is" attitude here. I tend to live more by "Honesty without compassion is brutality".
Sometimes I think I tend to be TOO compassionate and not enough honesty. :o

Jen.... Oh how I feel for you. {{{ HUGS }}} I have been there... depression.
Fortunately mine is usually temporary and tends to come when my period "should be" .. but it can be sooooooooo debilitating. I am suppose to take pills to force my body into having periods... but those pills almost cause me to be almost suicidal so I quit taking them. A case of the cure causing the illness. :dizzy:
There are many anti-depressants... could you try one of the others.??
Don't give up on just one.

It is Thankful Thursday ...
I am thankful for the wonderful group of people in this forum.
I am thankful for what health I have left. LOL
I am thankful for my husband.
I am thankful for my home.
I am thankful for April 23-25. :D

SPRING FLING here we come !!!!

BabySteps

03-25-2004, 11:00 AM

Well, I made it till about 2:00 on Dr. Phil yesterday, I cant do it. I feel like a addict, theres no way I can eat such simple lacking of taste food.......on to another plan? I am thinking about just writting down everything, trying to stay between 1200-1500 cals, trying to make it mostly clean protien, complex carbs...but not lose my mind over it. I think bottom line, cals are the biggie.

Blue, I feel for you, I admire your way of looking deeper.

chequitagirl

03-25-2004, 11:09 AM

babysteps that is the way i am doing it. i had a nutritionist from the diabetes clinic to prepare my mealplan. i watch my calories, keep them under 1800, lowfat and i watch my carbs and even with having diabetes i still eat over 150 gr. of carbs a day. i couldn't go on a diet i had to make a lifestyle change. healthy eating is the best way to go. the only things that i really cut out of my way of eating were soft drinks, and most anything sweet. concerning the sweets, if i really feel that i have to have something sweet, i have it, but only in moderation. these things work for me. i guess everyone has to really find what works for them. my fingers are crossed for you to find that solution, but don't give up, because there is a solution out there just for you.

LuckyLadyBug

03-25-2004, 12:05 PM

Audrey you are doing great. I was going to search the internet for a diabetic diet. I have some relatives that have it and they are visiting this summer so I wanted to see what to feed them plus I figure it would be good for me to eat that way too!

Blue I really relate to your "feeling alone" and "I don't believe anyone sees me". I am way older than you and have no idea where all of my feelings are coming from but I do seem to make small steps towards figuring it all out. I do know I have to fix my internal self but Oh ! - it is work!!!!

Way to go Ingrid - 32 lbs since 01/12/04 is TERRIFIC. :cheer: :goodscale

Stinger766

03-25-2004, 12:59 PM

Hi everyone.

Thanks so much for encouraging words regarding my weight loss. I think the positive feedback I get from my friends/family and from my internet friends really makes a big difference.

I whole heartedly agree with what Chequitagirl said, everyone has to find their own form of diet and exercise that works for them. I know what I'm doing wouldn't work for everyone. I'm being really strict and I'm not even allowing myself any treats etc. I'm a person that's all or nothing though, in my dieting life and also in the rest of my life. I know that about myself and I know that eating foods that I should won't be just one. It's what I call the potato chip or peanut theory. You can't have just one. I'm that way about every food I like that's not on my "diet" plan. I'm much better staying away from those things completely than having even one. I know other people have an off switch though and can do things in moderation. I think we all need to search around until we find the plan that click with us and works. :)

I haven't talked much about my personal life but I'm lonely. :( I haven't been in a "real" relationship in a long time. I haven't even dated in 5+ years. I have a man from my past who was my "roommate" (although he slept in my room at least 4 nights a week, lol) that I "see" (I'm sure you know what I mean by see) but I haven't "seen" him since July. He called 5 times yesterday while I was at work, wanting to see me. He's not someone that would ever want me as a girlfriend because he wouldn't want to be seen with someone as fat as me. (He's never said that but I know him well enough to know that's how he feels). Why do I continue to see him is my question? I know being my weight that not many men are interested in me and I guess I feel like I need to take whatever I can get. I grew up with parents who told my brother and I continually that we were fat and because of that no one would ever love us and we'd never amount to anything. I think after hearing it for so many years that even though as an adult you realize it's not true, you still have lingering fears of what if it is and what if no one can see how great I am because they only see how fat I am?

Even though I don't really know anyone yet, I'm glad to have a place where I can see this stuff outloud and know that there might be someone here who can relate.

Thanks for listening ladies. :)

Ingrid

katrinabgood

03-25-2004, 04:54 PM

He's not someone that would ever want me as a girlfriend because he wouldn't want to be seen with someone as fat as me. (He's never said that but I know him well enough to know that's how he feels).

Oh, how that breaks my heart...and PISSES me off at the same time!!! He hasn't called since July? If all he wants is what he "usually" wants, I'd tell him to take a hike. I know I don't need to put my psychologist's coat on to tell you that you are just playing out what your parents instilled in your brain. It is time to break away from that kind of thinking!!! That's where the change will occur, when you stop thinking so little of yourself. Now, come here and let me give you a {{{{{BIG HUG}}}} Ingrid, hold your head up high, be proud of yourself and the efforts that you are making. Treat yourself with respect, you deserve it!!!

Stepping off my soap box now...

Hi all...I know I've been AWOL for the most part. Just busy. Dh is still in CA, will be there til next Friday...:( Turns out they cancelled the surgery, which was supposed to be today, FIL's kidneys are not in tip top shape either, now they're talking about doing dialysis first, THEN the surgery. Oy. Next Friday...the day dh leaves. So Dad is being discharged today, will be readmitted next week. I just can't emphasize enough to dh (and to myself, duh) the importance of getting healthy and taking care of our bodies NOW, before they decide to get back at us later for all the abuse we've heaped on them!!!

I will attempt a few replies, but may have to bolt quickly...I need to get dinner going...tonight is karate, then a basketball game, then WORK...ugh. I'm getting mighty tired of this night shift crap. I was networking myself a bit last night. One of the nurses who USED to work nights and now has a lovely office job in Staff Development...came in last night to inservice us on some new procedure...We got to chatting and I told her if she ever needs a new secretary to give me a call. "Funny you should mention that," she replied..."There is an opening...MAYBE...and I'd LOVE to have you!!!" (budget constraints being what they are...if they can get away without one, they will.) So, I have that pleasant thought to hang onto. I know for a fact that working nights is NOT conducive to proper eating habits. Or sleep patterns. Or any semblence of a "normal" life. I'm ready for a change. I NEED a change!

Oh yeah, back to replies...enough about me...

BarbPA...Go for the massage!!!! They are wonderful and totally relaxing. I've never had accupuncture, but my granny did for back pain, related to cancer, and couldn't say enough good things about it! Go for it, baby! BTW, best wishes to Dad...hope he feels better soon!

Terry, All this boat talk is making me LONG for summer!! You guys are going to have lots of fun with your new "toy." I'm jealous!

Babysteps...Hey! Don't give up so quickly!! If you fell off the wagon, get right back on. We're all good at that here! Lots of skinned knees and bruises from that fall! Find what you're most comfy with and stick to that. Hang in there!

Lucky, Knowing that Dr Phil's earnings go to charity (i'll bet he keeps a bit for himself!) makes him slightly less annoying in my eyes. But YOU can keep coming here!! In fact, I'd like to see a bit MORE of you here, young lady!!! :lucky: :kickcan:

2cute, Sometimes I think I tend to be TOO compassionate and not enough honesty. Oh, how I can relate to that one!!

Audrey, sounds like you are following a very sensible plan. Realistic. Keep up the good work!

Barbg, About those roses...my mother in law has beautiful roses...she told me once that she has just stuck cuttings in the ground and they grow! I was skeptical, but she swears it works! May as well give it a shot! I LOVE roses! Good luck with them!

Dang, there's the phone...and I was on a roll too! gotta run. Hi to everyone else, I'll catch you all later...make that tomorrow! Have a good night!

2cute2Bfat

03-25-2004, 05:02 PM

STOP !!! DO NOT POST HERE.... instead come join us on the next ongoing thread... # 508

Stinger766

03-25-2004, 05:07 PM

Thanks Kat.

He's actually called about 10 times since July but I haven't actually hooked up with him. He's stopped by my office twice for workish related reasons but we haven't seen each other in person in several months and haven't been together since July. I know logically that he's a loser and that I deserve better. 8 months is a long time to go without though and I do have residual feelings for him that flare up from time to time. I told my best friend that it's been so long that next time he wanted to hook up I'd say no but of course I didn't. I mean I put him off for yesterday but he's very persistant and I'm sure that he won't quit calling any time soon. I just wonder if I'll ever have a normal relationship. Most of my past relationship (well all my past relationships) had major problems too. I want a normal life, with a normal man. Is that so much to ask? lol.

Hope everyone is having a good day. :) I may sound depressed about the above but I'm actually really just pondering what's going on in my life and since I'm making myself physically healthier I want to be emotionally and spiritually better too.

Talk to you soon,

Ingrid