Sugar Busters Weekly Support Board 8/11-8/17

[Debelli]

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This is the
SUGAR BUSTERS WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD where all of you who are following this WOE, or are thinking about doing so, are welcome to come join in and be a part of our wonderful group.

Other than finding support and friendship on this board, we also try to do something during the the week to add a little difference to our board.

MONDAY-MOTIVIATIONAL MONDAY
TUESDAY-TUESDAYS TIPS & FACTS & CHAT AT 9:15PM EST
WEDNESDAY-WEIGH-IN WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY-THURSDAY RECIPE DAY
FRIDAY-FRIDAY FUNNIES


Please take some time to check out our extensive recipe boards. Our RECIPE BOARDS can be located at the link below:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=89

Look for our QUARTERLY RECIPE BOARDS to post your favorite recipes and to see the most recently posted recipes. Recipes from the quarterly boards will be archived in proper categories at some point.


We have SEVEN INFORMATIVE BOARDS!!!! Please take a few minutes to visit them! New information is continually being posted, so please make sure you visit them often!!! The boards are listed below as well as the link that will take you to the boards:

THE RECOMMENDED READING BOARD
THE TOOLS & TIPS BOARD
THE FOOD INFORMATION BOARD
MOTIVATIONAL & INSPIRING THOUGHTS BOARD
MY FAVORITE SB LEGAL FOODS
SB 2002 BIO BOARD
SB 2001/2002 PHOTO ALBUM BOARD

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=87

We also have a SB WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD that you can log your daily/weekly exercises on which is located on our weekly support board:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30451

Then there's our latest addition to the SB BOARDS which is called OFF THE EATEN PATH This board is for everything NOT related to SB. You can use this board to post questions or comments on just about anything (okay, within reason). A book you recommend, a cleaning tip, a great website deal, etc. etc. Here's the link:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=90


NEWBIES! (aka new members) If you would like to REPLY to any of our threads, please hit POST REPLY not NEW THREAD, then type your message in and hit SUBMIT REPLY. If you need to edit your reply, just click on edit located in the body of your post and make changes as you need to, then hit SUBMIT NOW.


WELCOME! :D

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[Debelli]

GOOD MONDAY MORNING EVERYONE!

Will post my usual morning post sometime later, but wanted to make sure I got our
MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY done early in the morning, so here's my contribution for MM, there's 2 of them to read today:


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HIGHEST PERSEPECTIVE

If the little things are getting you down, then spend some time and thought looking up. The more you connect yourself to the big picture, the less you'll be dragged down by all the little frustrations.

If you have no idea of where you're headed, then the smallest setbacks can get blown completely out of proportion. That's because they're the only things you have to focus on.

When you can frame events in a bigger perspective, the little annoyances and frustrations become just that -- little. See clearly where the road is leading, and you won't be bothered by the rocks and pebbles over which you must travel. In fact, you'll even begin to value and appreciate them. For they will serve to confirm that you're truly making progress.

The higher you aim your focus and your efforts, the more resilient you will be. The more positive and meaningful you make the big picture, the more successfully you'll be at dealing with the challenges.

See life from the highest perspective your thoughts can attain. And you'll steadily, gracefully work your way there.

-- Ralph Marston


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A WAY FORWARD

What could you do that would transform your most burdensome limitation into a valuable and positive asset? What could you do that would turn your enemy into your friend?

Does that sound impossible? It's not. Rather than being stuck behind your circumstances, you can become invigorated and inspired by them. Think of all the great triumphs that had their beginnings in seemingly hopeless situations.

Certainly life can be cruel and unfair to you, but that is no reason to keep yourself down. In fact, it is a very good reason to push forward with persistence and determination.

Yes, there is difficulty all around. And that's what makes your positive, loving, caring, life-affirming actions so valuable and so absolutely essential. Take your imagination, your resources, your faith, your curiosity, your compassion, your strength, your determination, put them to work, and find a way forward. Find it, live it, and transform your world.

-- Ralph Marston

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Have a wonderful day, and a fabulous week!!!!!

Debbie
194/1??:fr:/129
SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

[Debelli]

This weeks challenges are the usual water challenge of trying to drink at least 64oz of water as well as trying to do at least 3 days of exercise.

YOUR NEW CHALLENGE FOR THIS WEEK: As many days as you can, post WHAT STARCHY CARBS YOU ATE FOR THE DAY Try to list amounts if you can as well :)

[The Quilter]

Monday--Good Morning everyone! I hope you all had a great weekend and now that you're on the other side of it, you are ready for a productive, successful week.

DEB---Glad to see you back. We missed you.

ROSALIE---Thanks for being the assistant to the DM last week.

Gotta go. If I sit here much longer, I'll be asleep.

Kim

[Ellen]

Morning!

No work for Monet this morning.... thank God! I am so tired, and still sick. The congestion has moved into my chest and now I am developing a nasty cough. I hope it gets better before I have to work tomorrow! To add insult to injury, PMS turned into DMS yesterday, and I feel really bad from that this morning as well.

I am leaving to go for lab work in a few minutes. Its the usual fasting insulin and thyroid tests. I am not hungry yet, which is a good thing. I often get nauseated if I don't eat, so these fasting tests are hard!

I made gazpacho on Saturday afternoon, and ate the whole batch myself. It was delicious! I finished it off last night before bed. I think I am going to keep some made up in the fridge. It is a perfect way to get in fresh veggies.

I am still struggling with staying on program. I am going to chose today to be the end of the slide, and beginning of recommitment. Its the end of the summer here, and school started today. Seems like a good time to turn over a new leaf.

I will be back to write some replies later. :wave:

[tysgrammy]

I am new to SB, in fact I will officially begin the program this morning. I weigh 276 lbs and am 45 years old. I need to lose about 125 lbs. What I need to know is if this is a realistic goal with the SB plan. I have a copy of the old book but I must be missing the section that deals with portions. Does anyone know what portions I would need to eat to lose weight? Is there a range of calories I need to stay within? As you can tell, I am not
sure what to do. I just know that my cardiologist said I have to pull off the weight and he suggested I read the SB book. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[beachfan37]

:angel: My contribution for MM:

"The secret of contentment is the realizaton that life is a gift not a right." God's Little Instruction Book for Women.

Last night I read an article about Gratitude. The article had a profound affect on me. It said, "Recognizing that we can't control what happens to us, only how we react to what happens is the key to contentment." Gratitude for what we have and even just the beauty of nature is the key to contentment. I feel that emotional eating, which I do is because I am not controlling how I react to what happens in my life, is a result of not having this attitude of being grateful for the good things. So my resolve this week is to be thankful for the small things in life and the big things and to remember to react to what happens in life with this perspective. :)

:D :D :D YEA DEBBIE IS BACK...Debbie we missed you. Glad you are back.

Rosalie...Thanks for a great job of keeping us going.

Monet...hope you are better. When I've had the glucose test they've told me that illness can affect my sugar levels. You may want to ask them...

Weighed in for WW today and had lost another pound...

Everyone have a great day!

Anna
222/174/140

[fruitloupe]

Good Monday Morning

I don't have much to post being that I did a long post last night. But, I just wanted to pop in before heading to school to say hello!

BEACH: My friend told me about the Louisiana Lagniappe place but we couldn't find it. I really wanted to try that place out. We always laugh because everyone "claims" to be a Louisiana type rest. and they are no where close. So, when a fellow Louisianian tells me a place is good - I want to try it out! Someone also said something about Zeke's - so it must really be good! Those Romar house condos do look really nice - there are so many - kind of like the Phoenix chain.

Well, I'll check in tonight hopefully!

Missy
286/281/170

[Debelli]

Good Monday Morning All:wave:

Whew! It's good to be back:D I've missed you all!!!

I'm going to try to get in a whirlwind post of some of the happenings since I've been gone but know if I go in to all details I'll never get this post done as I'd be typing non-stop for days, so I'll give you a shortened versioned.

Let's go right to the heart of the matter - I've gained a lot of weight. I'm not exaggerating, unfortunately. :( It wasn't so bad until the trip, I'd of course gained some weight but it was manageable. All the planning of staying on track like TRANQUIL did was thrown out the door after day one of being on the road. I ate through each state I drove through and nothing really good either, just plain ol junk. It just got worse. You all know I'm an emotional eater and boy, the emotions were really getting the best of me. Unfortunately, when I returned home, the eating didn't get any better, actually worse and now I REALLY feel my body stretching in all directions from the weight I've gained. My clothes are not only tight on me, and being I wear stretchy pants, that alone should say something of how bad it is, but nothing fits me at all.

I am back on track today. Journaling my food and feeling the drive to undo all that I've done, all without any time frames as I know this is going to take me time once again to get this weight off. I was lying in bed this morning, thinking about how I've lost and gained and lost and gained, gained, gained and lost and gained over the years and did realize something that, even though I've always sworn that I'd never gain back the weight once I had lost it in the past (but always have gained) that, even though it's taking years, I must be learning something as when I've lost weight and met my goal at that time, even though I've gained weight back, each time I've riden on this roller coaster ride I've never gone back to my original pre-diet weight. At one point, one of the diets I started years ago, I started at 240+, when I gained back weight, when I started SB, it was at 194, so here I am gain, gosh knows at what weight, but definitely not up at 194, or anywhere near that, but at least I caught myself before I found myself close to that number.

I won't get on the scale - it depresses me and stresses me out at you all so well know:shrug: Going to go by how I feel and how the clothes fit better. I don't plan on getting on a scale until the end of the year-I'd like to throw the metal monster away!!!!

Enough of my diet woes-I know I don't have to explain it all to you without you all knowing and understanding. It's a never ending battle that can't be won. As I've always said, I have to look at this as a battle that seems to call a truce, raises the white flag, yet, if I am not careful, as I haven't been, the enemy (fat/bad eating habits, etc) can re-group and attack without notice, raging an all out war once again, as it has. What I have to look at is not so much the negativity of all this but at the positive, which is all of you who I have for understanding and support, my TROOPS, who will help get me back to my goal:)

Enough said:)

TRIP, well, as many of you know, I didn't want to go on this trip. Having driven over 3000 miles sucked. It was nice to spend some time with my cousins, went to NY, hated NYU, had never wanted to go to NYC, only liked going to the Broadway show of 42 STREET with LAUREN (boys went to see LION KING). Hated NY and couldn't wait to leave-my time limit there would be 3-4 days MAX if I ever had to go again, not that I stayed that long there, but that would be the MAX I could ever stay in that environment.

I have to say, the highlight of the entire trip was seeing and visiting with LYNN (YELLOWROSE) & RAY!!!! For those of you who've been fortunate enough to meet LYNN you know what an awesome person she is! Well, RAY is just as awesome a person and when you meet the two of them together you know why they are together. I had such a fantastic time with them that I didn't want to leave. And, when LYNN talks about the TREE HOUSE, well, you just can't imagine unless you see if for yourself what she's actually talking about - it's such an incredible home. I wish you could all see it for yourself. I have to say, beyond spending time with them both, the hummingbird watching was definitely a great experience. The kids and I both had a fantastic time. I could go on and on about those two and the wonderful hospitality they showed, but if I did, you'd all be making reservations to go see them;)

Of course, you all heard about the wonderful drive home - what a mess, headache, disaster that was! That only added more stress and emotional eating to what was taking place. That cost me $1500 that I hadn't expected, and boy, with no money as it is and this happening, well, I just kept on eating. Thankfully, it got fixed and the guy really knew what he was doing. I just hope the used transmission I got keeps working, I need to keep this car for a few more years. It has 92+K miles on it but after all the money and new parts I've put in to it lately, it better last to 192K miles!!!! Of course, it didn't stop there - when the guy put my car up on the lift he showed me where I was riding on metal in the tires, so when I got home - had to buy 2 new tires - does it ever end?

WEDDING - it was a nice wedding and even nicer to see so many cousins I haven't seen in eons, to the point I didn't recognize many of them. My GRANDMOTHER made it but it wasn't easy for everyone to see her. My mother and aunt had a difficult time just getting her in the car to go there. It's terrible to see how she's gone downhill so quickly and for those who hadn't seen her in so long it was especially hard. Family members were just crying on and off during the whole reception. My cousins SHARI was hysterical and had to go out of the room. I was happy I wasn't at THAT table! My cousin who got married kept losing it as well. As my DM said, they should be crying tears of joy that she made it to a happy occasion. I do believe the wedding is what kept her going and now, it's just a day-to-day wait and see with her. There's nothing that can be done and it's just a matter of time.

I have to say, where my cousin got married, very Hoiti Toiti place in West Palm Beach - have to be rich to go there, that's for sure, but I have to tell you guys, the food sucked! Give me OUTBACK or even OLE OLE any day. They may be rich, but darn if they can cook!!!!!!!!!!! It was so funny when we all went in to the bathrooms, LAUREN was asking for paper towel and didn't realize the REAL TOWELS that were on the counter were there for her to use in place of!

TOE - yes, it's still sore. Would help if I'd stopped hitting it I think but darn, why should anything go right for me???? I finally taped it yesterday in hopes it will help heal a little faster - I know, 4 weeks later and I'm just now taping it:shrug: I thought about going to walk this morning and figured I should wait just one more week to let it heal better. It's been hard not exercising at all this summer - another issue to work on.

I did not really have time to read any of the board while I was gone, so please, forgive me AND if you can, update me of any pertinent happenings so I can feel somewhat connected here. For all of you who are new members, I hope to get to know you as I get back to my usual self and the board.

There's a ton more that I could write, but as I said, if I do, I'd never get this posted up on the board and I need to make a start somewhere, so as I remember things, I'll throw them in if I find them important enough to bore you with them:)

Just know, I'm back, in more ways than one. If I don't post a lot this week, please understand, there's still a lot going on this week that I have to take care of-I have tons of e-mails to filter through, tons of bills that are overdue, meeting on Thursday, have to take MICHAEL to pick out his Senior pics, have to take the kids for blood tests, take the car back because the alignment doesn't seem to have been done (still pulls to the right), etc. etc. I will do my utmost best to get on every chance I can, but with the kids both with projects that have to be done before school starts (Aug. 25th) along with a new project MICHAEL is doing about the homeless, well, I'm sure you can understand! Oh, did I mention how tired I am with all this going on????????

QUILTER - MISSED YOU AND EVERYONE TOO!!!!!!

MONET, sorry to hear you are sick - hope you get better really quick! We can re-commit together!!!

GRAMMY, http://members.aol.com/eldemila/sb_sign1.jpg Glad you are joining us. Absolutely, your goal is doable as long as you are commited. I can tell you, despite what I've written above, I reached my goal with SB and it was by far, the easiest WOE to follow. The book can be confusing and contradictory, it's not you, it's the book. If you'd like, you can e-mail me with your stats and I can give you an idea of how much you should be eating and what portions. Just include your starting weight, goal weight, height, age and e-mail me at Debelli@AOL.com and I'll do that and send the info back for you. Don't be afraid to ask questions, we're all more than happy to help!!!

BEACH, glad to be back and of course, I can't say enough times how much I missed everyone! Looks like you are really doing well being back on track - I'm hoping to follow right in your footsteps. We'll both get back to goal!!!!!!!

FRUIT, when are we going to talk???????????? E-mail me and tell me a good day and time, anytime after 9pm est.

Okay gals, I'm outta here. I will be on later. LAUREN is going to babysit and MICHAEL slept at his friends house, so he's not here. I do have quite a few errands to run today, but I'm for sure getting back on the board at least a few more times today. I have to - it definitely helps keep me honest!!!!

{{{HUGS}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

[Fillise]

Morning all!

Could it be? A 3rd day of Sunshine in Bama??????

I love positing on Monday mornings--the only day of the week I feel caught up!:lol:

Fruit--Uh-oh, if you aren't excited about football season, then I'm REALLY worried about you! ;) I know this is a rough time for you and I pray that God will lead you to the child he has for you.

Anna--congrats on another pound lost! I like the message about gratitude!

tysgrammy--Welcome to out little corner of the world! The book doesn't have a lot to say about portions--it just says that your food should fit on the flat portion of a plate without hanging over the sides and that you shouldn't go back for seconds. It's not a bad guide, it you think about it. They offer no calorie guidelines because this WOE is not about counting calories. Many of us have found that when beginning this way of eating (WOE) that it is best just to get all the refined sugar out of your system. So eat the right foods and don't worry too much about portions for the first week or so. Then if you want to really look at portions (which is a good idea) there are plenty of folks on this board--especially Debbie that can help you to identify a calorie target. Hope this helps!

Monet--Sorry you still aren't feeling well. I hope the tests go well and you get to eat something soon! :D

Kim--I hope you have a good OP week this week! Let's get to it!

Deb--It's good to have you back!

Have a great OP day everyone!

Susan

[Fillise]

Hey Deb--we were posting at the same time! Sounds like you had a loooooong trip! Glad to have you back and on the board--you know we'll kick your butt back into shape! I'd suggest tough love, but I don't think we can be any tougher on you that you are on yourself! Get back on track today and take it one day at the time!

Susan

[bashful8]

Hey Everyone!:D

Well, I had the most op weekend yet (weekends seem to be tough, I think b/c DH doesn't usually feel like cooking, which he does most of the week, and b/c despite our respective weights we are both very indecisive about food). I was op from Monday to Saturday;) and then yesterday I had to go to a b-bque at a classmates house, had a huge headache and had to drive two hours to get there so, I wasn't op at all. :devil: But honestly, despite the excuses I just made I had decided previously to just not worry about it. To not go hog-wild but to enjoy myself (I ate about 10 doritos, a cheeseburger and hotdog, both with regular buns). My biggest disappointment was not getting in the water I wanted to, but I'll be back to it today.

I will also be back to exercising today:strong:, I was supposed to walk on the treadmill last night, but I fell off my stoop taking the recycling out and banged up my calf :cry: so I took some excerdrin and let it go for the night. I think I'll do yoga today. :dance:

beachfan: thanks so much for your post this morning. :flow1: I was feeling really annoyed this morning b/c I got woken up by the phone and had been having a bad night sleep to begin with and then not being able to go back to sleep.:bomb: But I'm not going to let being tired get me down. Worse comes to worse I'll take a nap later.:D

Debbie: Could I send you my stats too? :^: I've been doing SB for three weeks (lost 3-3.5 #) and it feels like the right way to live, but I need a little more structure than the book gives. :?: I've been thinking about doing WW with SB, but time is going to become an issue come september when I start internship. So maybe if you could give me some portion control guidelines or other advice that would be helpful. :balloons: Thanks.

Everyone have a great day!
Steph

[GatorGal]

Fruit--I hear ya, kiddo. Yes, the "Man upstairs" sees how you are handling your disappointment. But, Fruit, He is not some celestial Santa Claus that gives you what you want if you are "good" and withholds it if you are "bad." The happiness he is most interested in for you is (1) your contentment and peace of heart even when circumstances are not so great [and you have to admit that generally, circumstances are often the pits in an imperfect world], and (2) your joy and happiness for all eternity. If you understand his Word and know that your position with The Man is such that you are assured of the eternity thing, then the 80 or so years you have here on earth are insignificant in comparison. In fact, the eternity thing is the REAL prize, and your assurance of that can make a big difference in if you are happy or not. It can also make a difference in how you handle the adversities that a corrupted world sends your way. You can have a life so filled with purpose that you will be awestruck, if you are "workin' wid da Man."
I can remember perfectly the day my DH and I decided to give up all the striving and worry and control and admit that we could not control the pregnancy thing. (And that was 33 years agobut just like yesterday!) We were sitting in a Morrison's Cafeteria on Colonial Drive in Orlando having lunch on a Wednesday during the summer of 1970. I was working at Merrill-Lynch and my DH and I were having a rare lunch together. We had, by then, been through 6 years of "trying." In our conversation, we decided to "give it all up" and look into adoption. Actually, we decided to actually apply to adopt a baby. Six months later we had our son. The decision we made on that Wednesday was one of the most freeing things I have ever done. It was like a big weight had been removed from my heart. Both of our children are definitely "our own." In fact, we all believe that God intended these particular two individuals to be part of our particular family. Our DD, with whom we had some hard times a number of years ago, laughs now with me when she says, "Mom, I think I'm turning out to be just like you!" Don't forget, Fruit, that Moses, Jesus, and Samuel were all adopted, and God certainly had his hand in that.
I'm definitely not God, and don't know all about how he thinks, but I might guess that he is allowing this in your life so that he can work on what he considers to be even more important: your character, your trust in his love for you even when circumstances are not what you want, and your living out the fact that your Purpose is more than just having children. Fruit, your life is not about your weight or about your having children through vaginal birth. It's much more important than that!! :) :) Love ya, kiddo. Hang in there!

Beach--I loved your motiv. thought. I agree with you 100% about the emotional eating. I think that I probably do that, too, in some vague effort to have some control over my part of the world which seems out of control. I've been working on a talk that I will be giving next month to a group of women and one thing that some material in the Book I've been reading in preparation has emphasized so strongly is that real personal change begins in the mind and heart. When I examine myself and my puny efforts at change by just "gritting my teeth and doing it" I can see that I need to work on an attitude change first. I have to change my mind about some things that I have been holding on to. Hmmm.

Monet--Get better soon.:dizzy:

Yea Debbie. We?re so glad to see you and hope your weekend went well. Sorry you had so much trouble with your car on your trip. Hope things will get back to normal for you soon.

Good challenge this week. So far I've had 3 Tablespoons of raw oatmeal. I used it in the SB pancakes I had for breakfast. I also had some cut-up fruit on top--5 cherries, 5 grapes, 5 strawberries. Mmmmm, good. Debbie, do you think that was too much fruit? I also had cottage cheese and an egg in the pancakes.

Well, it is NOT raining. In fact, last evening was so lovely that I put the top down on my car. It was in the 80's and cool. But it has a slightly overcast look right now and I haven't done my walk yet. So will sign off and get cracking so I can get in my exercise.

Toodles.

[TVthatsME]

Hello all!

Sorry to have been MIA for awhile again. Too much going on in my life these days. My youngest started Kindergarden and much much stress at work.

I'm glad to report that I am LOVING going to Curves. I'm starting on my 5th week now. I didn't get to go 3 times for 2 of those weeks because of travel and illness, but am determined to get 3-4 days in unless it is absolutely impossible from now on.

I'm in on the water challenge. I've got 30 oz in already this morning (3 trips to the girls room too).

Deb - well you made me feel a little better seeing as how I'm not the only one who has really made a mess of this WOE lately. I must say though, I did get on the scale this morning and it was back up to my highest ever (except pregnancy). I think that is motivation enough for me to get with it and back on program.

I've gotta run for now.
TV

[bashful8]

Okay...I have a question. And I know to some this is going to sound like an excuse, and maybe it is, partially b/c I feel like I'm not really losing doing this WOE (I was down a total of 3.5 last week, after 3 weeks and now I'm back up 1.5). Although I guess I should be happy I'm not really gaining just fluctuation within 5 #'s.

Anyway, I was once told I was allergic to wheat (skin test). But I disregarded it b/c the dr was a bit of a wack and did all these hi-tech tests and I still didn't lose. Has anyone else ever been told this? WHat did you do? Did SB still work for you? If I am allergic, but have increased my whole wheat intake, could that be why despite exercising and sleeping more than I have in years I'm still exhausted all the time? Or have other's felt tired and had slow weight lose in the beginning and then things got better after a while?

I am so confused! You are all so wonderful! And I don't want to give up on this (It makes so much sense intuitively), but it feels like this is becoming one more thing that doesn't work for me:?:

Thanks, Steph

[Solly]

I started this 5 hours ago. I probably won't be on here too much this week with my doing payroll too.

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I can actually say my eating was 99% OP. I had 1 small hush puppy, but I hadn't had any bread for the day. I did have 4 screw drivers during our 12 hour bus trip/race track outing. It could have been a lot worse with eating out every meal since Friday night. We even went to McDonalds and I got their chicken salad. Very good I might add.

My starchy carbs today were 1/4 c cheerios that I put in my yogurt. Not planning on any more unless I have 1/2 sweet potato for dinner.

Kim, have a great day!

Deb, glad you are back. We missed you. Don't fret about those extra pounds. They won't stick. Heck, I gained 12 pounds on vacation. I'm the only person I know that can't wear my clothes home. I kept sitting inthe airport watchign the people, thinking, I bet nno one else couldn't fit into their clothes. But I'm back on track and have dropped 8 of those lbs and still going all the way to goal. You have learned something, you know where to come and what to do. You can do this.

Monet, hope you feel better soon. TOM and a cold is not good company. Take care of yourself. What's gazpacho?

tysgrammy, Welcome. This is a great board for support and help. Yes 125 is realistic with SB I have lost 105 lbs. It's not gonna come off over night, but it will come off. You are smart to do this now. I always tell these young girls here to do this now before they get older and lose the elasticity in their skin. I did it by age 50, sure wish I did it at 30 or 40. Portion sizes are like any other diet. The book says only fill the inside of your plate and don't go back for seconds. I always use a small plate. Meat-poultry 3 oz. 1/2 c veggies. I don't weight and measure. Lots of people do. I only counted my 2-3 starchy carbs a day. Didn't want to fool with anything else and it worked for me. Good luck to you.

Beachfan, Liked your MM. The gratitude thing is right on too. We take so many things for granted. Have a great week.

Rosalie, thanks for keeping us going last couple weeks while our leader was out. We really appreciate it.

Fruit, in Destin, Fla there is a restaurante with that same name. Never ate there though. Have a good day at school.

Fillise, we took DD to UK yesterday, boy it really gets me ready for football. I was picking out games to go to.

Bashful, don't worry about sunday, just jump right back on track today and you will be hard. Weekends are the hardest.

Gator, I have always said "anyone (most anyone I realize there are people who medically can't) can have a baby, but you have to really want one to adopt them". There are so many young girls, drug addicts, etc turning out babies, but to go through all the adoption process, you really have to want one. You have 2 lucky kids. I hope they know that. I think my DD will be adopting in a few years and I know we all will accept them with open arms and heart.




Have a great day.

Jackie

[TVthatsME]

Hey Bashful8 - I'm not completely sure about your question, but I have heard of people claiming to be intolerant to grains and what I remember is that it supposedly caused them nightmares in the weight loss dept. You could always cut out the bread and anything with grains in it (I know, easier said than done) and see if that makes a difference. You don't have to eat grain/wheat to do SB, you know :) Also, if you do this it would really help you with the keeping starchy carb count low too...

Just my thoughts.
tv

[Melf]

Good morning! OOPS! Good afternoon! :D Got started early enough this am, but had a busy morning, so it flew by. Think I got almost everything done that I needed to except for the usual household chores which I'll get to after while.

Deb, so glad to see you back & that the wedding went well except for the crying. Sorry to hear that you've put on some extra lbs, but sounds like you're determined to get it taken care of now rather that let it get furture out of control.

Don't have a MM thought to share, but I did come across an interesting article from an email this morning & thought that I'd share it today as a TT. I'm not sure that I totally agree with all that it says, but see for yourself!

It's dinner time and your kids are begging for burgers and fries from the drive-thru. Not quite the healthy meal you had in mind, but you succumb because it means a night out of the kitchen, and really, anything's okay in moderation. You're about to order when you see a mouth-watering ad for the restaurant's new salads. The perfect solution! Or is it?

What's In a Name?
Don't be fooled. Fast-food salads are often loaded with potentially unhealthy ingredients like meat, cheese and high-fat dressing, making any carrots or tomatoes they may contain irrelevant. "It's like recommending that people eat vegetables covered in lard," says Brie Turner-McGrievy, MS, RD, clinical research coordinator for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. In fact, research by PCRM revealed that if you include the dressing, one of McDonald's new chicken salads, contains more fat and calories and the same amount of cholesterol as a Big Mac. McDonald's nutritional material shows that the Big Mac contains 580 calories and a whopping 33 grams of fat.

Are All Salads Created Equal?
Just because a few salads don't turn out to be health bargains doesn't mean that ordering one at a fast-food or chain restaurant has to be a nutritional nightmare. PCRM gave several salads at Au Bon Pain, Subway and Panera Bread high ratings. Turner McGrievy recommends looking for salads that are heavy in veggies, high-fiber beans and even a few nuts (for protein and healthy fats). If there's nothing like that on the menu, see if you can get a salad "your way." Perhaps they can leave off the cheese, fried noodles, croutons or bacon, substitute a low-fat or nonfat dressing for regular or give you grilled, rather than crispy (read: fried), chicken.

But if that's not an option, don't despair. Turner-McGrievy points out that many fast-food restaurants do offer more health-conscious non-salad items like vegetable burgers and bean-based meals. She cites Taco Bell's bean burrito – hold the cheese – as an excellent example.

The Low Down
Still craving one of those high-fat, high-calorie salads? Go for it. Just make sure it's only an occasional treat and balanced by healthier eating the rest of the day. Our Community Users have some great tips, too:

At restaurants that serve soup, see if you can get a low-calorie soup with just half a salad.


Don't forget that the nutrition information provided is usually for just the salad and NOT the dressing, too.


Ask for salsa instead of their high-fat dressings.


The dressings may be high in calories but use just half the pack – you'll find it's more than enough.


Leave off the croutons and cheese. Otherwise, you may as well have a burger and fries!

I love the MacDonald's salad & always get the grilled chick instead of the fried one. I know that the dressing is a little too many cals, but you don't have to use it all & I almost never eat the croutons.

Sorry no time for replies today.

[Debelli]

Afternoon All:wave:

Just finished lunch, ate a Shelton Pot Pie - yummy!:goodvibes: This gives me my 2 starchy carbs for the day, with the other one being an ounce of Fiber One. One thing for sure, I've definitely gotten in my fiber today - between the FO and raspberries, among other fiber sources, I'm good to go!:lol:

With wanting to throw out the scale, can I do the same for every mirror in the house??? Geez, that's an eye-full I sure didn't want to see:fr:

GATOR asked in her post to me if I thought she had eaten too many fruits. From what she posted, the answer is no, BUT, I did want to say, esp. for those of you who are new that you CAN eat too many fruits and have to be careful, as with anything else, portion control. What I think get's lost with many people are portions. Many people see in books, TV, on the web as far as portions go is what's suggested daily for the average person, within a certain caloric range. This will not apply to many of us on this board, if anyone. Depending on your current weight and how many calories you take in, along with how active you are, your numbers may be higher or lower than what's suggested.

I have posted info on this in the past, and also found a chart on the web that gives a good idea of the different food groups can be eaten within a certain caloric range. Just to give you an example:

1500-1800 calories

6 starch
3 vegetable
2 fruit
2 meat
2-4 milk group (depends on age & if you are preg for the 4 count)

NOW, is you were taking in say

2400-2700 calories

10 starch
4 vegetable
3 fruit
2-3 meat
2-4 milk group

Here's a few other sites that may offer some good perspective on this:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=servings+a+day+fruit+calories

http://www.mealformation.com/fdpyram.html

Of course, there will be variations from many places and you have to find what works for you, but back to the reason for this part of the post, you CAN NOT EAT UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF FRUIT and lose weight, everything in moderation!!!!!!

FILLISE, glad someone is getting some sunshine as the Sunshine State sure isn't. Actually, I really don't mind, it keeps it from being so dang hot down here. I have to say, so far, this summer hasn't been to bad as far as the heat goes, the rain, that's another story! Thank you, I do need some butt kicking! I'm sure there's a long line of people who'd be happy to do that job!!!!:lol:

BASHFUL, sure, you can e-mail me!! Debelli@AOL.com Would be happy to help:D Some people find it easier to incorporate the WW point system with SB food rules, so it may be something you may want to consider doing if you already invested in all the WW stuff and have it available. I have it from years ago but personally like to write down my foods - I always say, whatever works!!!m As for the wheat, you may well be allergic to it and it may be causing problems. You can do SB without eating wheat products and still lose weight. I would try eliminating it and see what happens. I don't know if being allergic to wheat would cause you to be lethargic as there are a host of reasons that could cause that - not drinking enough water is just one of them. Maybe someone on the board can give you some better insight. If not, I'd search the web, you may find some info on there.

GATOR, as I mentioned above, and hope you don't mind me using your post doing so, I don't think the fruit you posted was too much but as I did say, portion control on everything is important. Many people don't realize what a portion of fruit really is - it's an eye-opener when you learn. I posted a chart way back, not sure if you were here, or saw it, but it's surely on the boards:)

TV, I'm wondering if CURVES will ever come down here. From all I've heard, people really like it. Wish they were as LAUREN wants me to look at gyms for her. Welcome back on the wagon with me - it may be a bumpy ride, but hang on girl, we'll get to our destination!!!

JACKK, that's awesome you are back on track and lost 8 of those pounds - I can only wish for that to happen to me, and quickly. Oh, I had to squeeze into my clothes - I swear, I feel like a stuffed sausage!:eek: I know I'll be fine. I have absolutely NOTHING coming up, no events, no dinners, no parties, NOTHING and as long as I get these next 3 days under my belt, I'll be fine. I'm glad you can sympathize with me, though I wish neither of us had to:shrug:

MELF, oops, forgot to call you back when I said I would. Trying to not be on the phone til it's free after 9pm, then forgetting about it isn't good:nono: Sorry 'bout that. Thanks for the TT, always interesting to read articles like that. Will call you soon-LMK when a good time is!

Well, I do believe I'm caught up. I'll check back later, probably before the BOOB TUBE FEST of tonight. Oh, saw FREAKY FRIDAY the other day-cuter for young girls I think, but I like Jamie Lee Curtis and wanted to see it.

Toodles

Debbie

[TVthatsME]

OK gals - I'm up to 50+ oz of water so far today!!!

This is great for me because I HATE WATER!!!

[bashful8]

Hey, anyone have an opinions on flavored water that has no calories added? I find they taste better and are a nice change from regular water when I'm craving flavor, but wasn't sure if there might be something in them that would reduce the effects of the water. They are esp. helpful when I'm craving diet soda but don't want to drink it b/c of the coloring (I can't seem to find clear diet sode by me).

Thanks,
Steph

[chrisb1022]

Hi Guys,
I 'm trying to make a habit of poping in here, My official new sugar buster start will be august 25th, I will be on vacation the 15th to the 24th. I am not going to even bother trying to start during vacation. We are going to the Outerbanks in NC. Any one familiar with it??

Hope all your great on programness will rub off on me by the 25th.

:)

[Pancho]

Well, I finally made it back on. I posted a long post this morning, and then my electricity went out, and I lost it all. How frustrating! I haven't read any posts beyond Wed., so if anyone asked me anything specific, let me know and I'll go back and read.

The trip went well, and I did pretty good on eating. I did have 3 roasted marshmallows and a few chips, FF and a few other no-no's, but not too bad. I really thought the scale would be up this morning, but I was still 125#; that's pretty good! I must have gotten my metabolism where it needs to be now, and as long as I eat these illegal foods in moderation, I think I will be alright. I keep fluctuating between 125-127. I'll take it though! The fish weren't biting much; my daughter got bored and didn't want to keep fishing. I threw her pole out and got a little fish on the line, and she reeled it in. As she reeled it in, it scraped across her leg and she screamed the loudest scream you've ever heard. There were some other people fishing not too far away and they started laughing. The bugs were also "bugging" her; she's such a girly-girl. I wish I had the camcorder on to get her with the fish. It would be a great memory to have on tape.

I wasn't so good today. We went to Chuck-E-Cheese pizza to meet some friends. I had a salad bar, and a half piece of pizza (which wasn't worth it - it wasn't even good). They only had lite-ranch, so I am sure it was full of sugars. We then went by DQ, and I had a nsa dilly bar.

I think noting our starchy carbs is a good idea; I probably will learn a lot. I think some of us may not know everything that constitutes a starchy carb.

Welcome back Debbie.....you were missed. It sounds as if you packed a lot into your vacation. It's always nice to get home though, isn't it? Good luck getting back on plan; you'll do it. It seems the first few days are the toughest.

Monet: I hope you are enjoying your day off and taking care of yourself, so you are feeling well enough to go in to work tomorrow. Good luck with the lab tests.

tysgrammy: Welcome. I think you've gotten most of the answers you were looking for. I know that a meat portion s/b no bigger than a deck of cards. They say not to let anything on your plate overhang, unless it's salad, and not to get seconds. Also, my personal experience with pasta....I eat it more as a side dish than a main course. I always make my main course my salad, and than have about a cup of pasta and another veggie. Good luck losing your weight, and I think you will meet your goal on SB. I have lost 27 pounds in 4 1/2 months and have kept it off for a month. I did do Atkins for 2 months, but have lost as fast or quicker on SB. I set a modest goal of 135#, and said I'd love to make it to 130; well as of this morning I was 125#. It really works, and I don't feel deprived at all.

bashful8: Weekends are the toughest for me always. I am so busy during the week running around, and I don't have time to sit around and snack. On the weekends, I snack toooooo much! Yesterday is over and today is a new day. I think we should weigh in on Mondays every other week or so, just to keep us on track during the weekends, since everyone seems to splurge the most then. I'm not sure about the wheat issue, but something you might want to talk to your doctor about; it could be causing you problems. As far as a flavored water; there is one called Fruit 2o flavored with Splenda. They have a lot of different flavors (lime, berry, strawberry, cherry, tropical.....). I like to have them around for the times I get tired of plain water, and would like something a little sweeter.

TV: Great job getting to Curves. I really think that exercise and diet should go hand in hand. I am always so much more motivated to eat right when I get a good workout in in the mornings. I am going to try to workout at home tomorrow, and then I will go to the gym early Wed. when my husband is home with the girls, and then again on Saturday. My husband is actually doing a sectional progression abdominal tape with me three nights a week after the kids go to bed. He is in great shape and just wants that 6-pack, I guess. I just want to firm up the baby-flab saggy stuff.

Jack: Sounds like you were pretty good on the bus trip. I really enjoy McDonald's salads too. I get the Caesar with grilled chicken/no croutons and only use about half the dressing, since it is really high in fat.

My starchy carbs so far today: two slices toast with nsa strawberry preserves, half-slice (yucky) cheese pizza. I might have a few Triscuits in a while. Does ice cream count as a carb? It was no sugar added and had naturally occuring carbs in the dairy portion????

Well better run before my electricity goes out again. I also have to list some Atkins products on e-bay since I know I will never use them.

I'll check in later!

[sef]

HiedieHo All!

I know I have been missing for a couple of weeks. I am so disgusted with myself and discouraged. Like so many I am an emotional eater. For a long time I have been going through an emotional time with my DD's attitude. I have had to walk on eggs around her trying to keep the peace. Her sarcasm gets to me. In recent months she has really upset me. A very long story. When I stayed with her last fall I had to practically beg. While with her we did some nice things but there were some very difficult times too. So I came home with mixed emotions.

When I suggested another visit a couple of months ago, she said she had to "think about it" and would let me know. She never did. Recently I told her that the family here were going to DIL's family for Christmas and I was invited too, but I'd rather not go and visit her instead. Dead silence. So I said think about it. We've talked a couple of times and she hasn't mentioned it. I'm not about to ask again, for Christmas or otherwise.

A week ago I called to let her know I had mailed off her afghan. There was also a lagniappe in the box, two pillows to match that were not in the original gift. This was a Christmas gift from last year, but she couldn't decide what color she wanted and she wanted to choose the pattern from ones I sent her. Once she let me know I made the afghan and decided to make the pillows too. I did not send it by canoe, it went regular mail, so she should have it by now. No call. DS is upset that she never said thank you. I really didn't feel like making it because of her attitude, but it was a promise and I keep my promises.

Also there's some tension with her brother. I think she resents that I am with him but she doesn't want me. In the beginning when I first moved in and he suggested she might want to send me some money from time to time. She refused saying that would be helping him. She's been deaf when I said it would be nice to spend a month with her a couple of times a year so we could be together and I could have some time away.

At any rate, I have been eating! Not no-nos, but entirely too much. I binged on sf candies. Piles of pasta and rice. SFWW rolls, crackers or breads with every meal or as a nosh in between. To add to my shame, except for the nursing home I stopped doing things. No church, only did shopping needed, did not go with YAH on outing (I did handle the July one, had to I was in charge), gave up stitching (started a project, but it sort of sat there), did frame for HFH projects because I gave my word, did not go out in pool as I usually do and work out. I did just enough that to the world around me it looked like I was almost normal. Did have a flare up with arthritis and stomach, so would use that as an excuse. Just did not push myself!

I was feeling miserable and worthless and unwanted. Somewhere along the way a week ago it dawned on me that I was feeling that way. What good was it doing me? So I have been trying. I am writing down everything I eat. I have been in the pool every day. I went out for no reason. I went to church yesterday for the first time in weeks. Every one had assumed I was away as I had told some that I wanted to visit DD a couple of months ago.

It is not easy. It's such a long story with DD. DS says not worth making myself sick over. Of course he's never been an unwanted mother! At least one of my kids wants me! We get along great and I will try to dwell on what is, not what might be.

Okay, sorry.

Going to try to come to the board too. Have not been on the computer much lately. Just check for jokes for the nursing home and to forward them.

Take care, Shirley

[sef]

HiedieHo All!

Sorry! Guess I'm not fully rehabilitated! Just wrote a pity party.



Take care, Shirley

[THE BIG ORANGE BABE]

WHEW!!!! THE SUN IS OUT!!!!!! GOOD EVENING FROM A STILL SOGGY SARASOTA!!! :wave:


What a day! I really earned my nickle ninety five today!!!!

DANG....the board is busy!!! Let's see if I can get some replys in here!

MISSY....as you can see from my email, I hadn't read the board yet and didn't know that you had been here! I'm so glad that you have GATOR to talk to about this. She's been there and done that....listen to her, she's a wise woman! (now Gail, don't get the big head!) Whatchu mean NO ROCKY TOP????? You can't have
BABY BOB without it! :?:

JACKIE.....CHILDREN!!!! Guess DD is feeling better...how did her lip look? I got a kick out of that statement not being able to wear your clothes home I got this visual of you sitting there necked in the airport! :lol:

MONET...so sorry you're still not feeling well...let us know how the visit to the lab went.

SEF....Sorry you're still having problems with your DD....I'll cross my fingers for you...sounds to me like she needs a good dose of PAXIL!!!

PANCHO.....DILLY BARS LOVE THEM!!!! In fact...I go out of my way to avoid DQ....I love custard and they have some good stuff there...Glad you enjoyed your trip...

BASHFUL....try the flavored water at WALMART...they are wonderful...and no sugar!!!

TV....Glad to have my TV buddy back just in time for the new season....

DEB....withough BAD LUCK, you wouldn't have any luck at all! I think we're in a race to see which one of us can spend the most on our vehicles!!!! Glad you're back....I can't believe you didn't like NYC! I could roam around that city and never get tired of it!
Did you stay in the city? WHERE???

MELF....DANGIT GIRL...Now I'm gona have to make myself a burger for supper!

BEACH...Maybe I missed it, but what kind of fish did you eat yesterday????? How is DH feeling? I've had him on my mind since you said you about heat stroked him out the other day???

Gotta run....talk to y'all later


BOB

[Debelli]

Evening All:wave:

This will probably be my last post for the day, hey, three of them in one day ain't so bad;)

Having some back pain today and can't figure out why-just started-weird. If it's gas, oh boy, is ELI in deep trouble!!!:lol:

So far, so good-eating right on target and even getting in some desperately needed water. I don't think, no, actually I know it's not 64ounces, but it's getting up there and anything is better than the nothing I usually drink.

Bad weather here today-strong thunder storms, but will take it over the heat any day.

TV, as you see, I too hate water. Have you tried to flavor it, or drink decaf tea? It definitely helps and I should heed my own advice and make a batch of tea that I just KNOW I'd drink without any trouble.

BASHFUL, got your e-mail and promise to reply by tomorrow:) Flavored water is fine as long as you check your ingredients and make sure there's no hidden ingredients. As for clear soda - why not get seltzer water and flavor that yourself? Like I mentioned to TV, how about decaf tea?

CHRIS, enjoy your upcoming trip! We look forward to having you back with us after you return. ENJOY!

PANCHO, ohhhhhh, roasted marshmallows!!! I haven't had any in years!!! YUM!!!! Sounds like you had a lot better time on your trip than I did on mine. As for the starchy carbs - ice cream is definitely a carb, but surely not a starchy one. Sounds like you'll be having 4 starchy carbs if you eat the Triscuits.

SEF, sorry to hear about what's happening with your daughter. I would just go right ahead and ask her what the heck is bothering her than listening to dead silence and make you wonder. You can't pretend a problem doesn't exist between you two and better get it out in the open than ignore it, at least you'll know just what you're up against and how to deal with it with her, or not. PLUS, you need to get back into doing the things you enjoy, not doing so only adds to the problems and not being out and about probably makes you think about the trouble all that much more, at least being out, your mind is on other things instead, or at least moreso. Don't you EVER think of yourself as being worthless and unwanted-you, as well as the rest of us know THAT'S just not so-not with all you do for others, you're probably more missed than you can even imagine-just remember how excited every one was on the board when you returned! Need to get away - come down and visit the DETOX DUNGEON!!!!!!!!! I'll take you any day!!!!!!:D Oh, and pity partys on the board - we all have had them and anyone can post them;)

BOB, yes, bad luck seems to be my middle name as of late-sucks! Nope, didn't stay in NYC, glad I didn't as far as when it comes to pricing AND parking the car. Found a good rate but it was blown down by the $40 a day to garage the car, and besides, once I saw how they drive there, I'm thrilled I didn't drive, I'd never of made it alive, or at least with my sanity:eek: We stayed in SECAUCUS, NJ and if I did ever go back, I'd stay there again if they had the same rate (or better) $79 with breakfast and a decent one at that. They had a free shuttle that would take you to the bus stop and then we caught the bus right to the station on 42St and 8th-very convenient.

Okay, I'm outta here. Going to make something for dinner and then plop my arse on the couch with the heating pad.

Will check in sometime tomorrow morning.

{{{{HUGS}}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

[agape3737]

Good Evening Ladies,

Good to be here today. I went to my doctor today. I was afraid to get on the scales. To my amazement I had lost 5 lbs. I was totally shocked because I hadn't been OP for well over a month. He changed a couple of my meds. That's over for a few months.

Fillise ~~ I do understand how you're feeling. I said the very same thing. I even called my doc from work crying and telling him I just couldn't take it anymore. My pain was so great that it went into my thighs, so whent I say I understand, I really do. I wish you the very best.

Debbie ~~ Welcome back, it is good to see you back. Sorry for all of the problems you are having. Thsi a good place to let it all out. We have to be thankful for what we do have. I hope everthing works in your favor. One day at a time is all we can handle. Your post touched home. Thank you for emailing me, which let me know I needed to get my hind part back to SB. I was looking at pics today and your daughter is the spitting image of you. You look more like sisters than mom and daugher.

BeachFan ~~ The article was indeed beautiful. I totally agree with it. I believe that's what most of us are missing, a heart of gratitude.

I think this is a stormy Monday. The sun will be out sooon. I will check in tomorrow. Good nite all.


Love,
Lyn (slim and healthy)

[agape3737]

Back again. I came back to say, no matter how bad we are feeling, whether physically or mentally, we need to find one positive thing in a day. When I look at the news, I have to turn it because of the horrible stuff I hear. If we think our life is bad, just take a look in our neighborhood, city , state, country and around the world. They are people too. I heard a little story a while, quite simple. There was a man who complained that he had no shoes, then he looked around and saw a man that had no feet. I know that we get the point.

Lyn (slim and healthy)

[GatorGal]

Shirley--Welcome back. I've missed you. You always brightened my spirits. And you had the best jokes. I was amazed at how many you had.
Anyway, our son sounds like your daughter. How old is your DD? Our DS is 32. He lives here in town and seems to want to have a "relationship" on his own terms. My joke is that we know exactly how many times a year we will get to see him--6. My birthday, DH's birthday, mothers' day, fathers' day, Thanksgiving and Christmas. He always brings really nice gifts for birthdays (for Dh's a big TV set), but never gives himself, which is what we really want. We actually think that he has not ever gotten beyond "teenage anger." That is, he is stuck in the same emotions that most teenagers have regarding either Mom or Dad--immature anger. So, because he is angry, he doesn't really want to be around us. It's really sad, and we feel sad for us and for him. He's missing out and so are we.
Anyway, my DH and I are meeting tomorrow with a special friend who does counseling to talk about constructive ways we might create some bridges between us. I'll let you know what we learn and how it turns out.
I also identify with the not feeling like doing anything. It's called depression. Not like you have to be institutionalized or anything. It's normal and most everyone has a time or two of feeling depressed.
It may be for both you and for us that we will have to accept something that we cannot change. One has to make a decision to accept the fact of it, and frankly, until we "face the facts" we will find it hard to move on to living fully and productively. I hope for both you and me that we both will be able to gently effect change.
Anyway, I'm glad you're back.

Starchy carbs--I already posted about the 3 T raw oatmeal. I had one slice 100% stoneground WW bread at lunch for an onion, tomato, cheddar cheese and bacon broiled sandwich.
Dinner--1/2 cornish hen stuffed under the skin with spinach stuffing that had spinach, cream cheese, swiss cheese, bread crumbs (2T) and onion. It was gooood. We also had fresh sliced tomato on a bed of lettuce.

Bashful--"Flavored" water is OK depending on exactly what you are talking about. Publix and Canada Dry both put out a selzer water that is "flavored" with an essence of orange, or lime, or raspberry. They, of course, have a plain selzer. There really is not much of a fruit taste. It is more of an aroma that gives it the "flavor." I like them very much and know when I have them that I am still drinking pure water. So give them a try.

[beachfan37]

:wave: Hello Everyone...

No way I can catch up on all the post but I will send a general one to all of us (including myself).

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: We've talked about how successful weight loss happens when you journal your food, excercise and weigh each week. I've added coming to this Board. But I think we need to add...dealing with emotional eating.

I think that emotional eating is the cause of why I have a hard time stayiing away from food. I am very much like an alcoholic (both parents were so I quess this should not be a surprise)...I reach for food for comfort and in some ways I think I use food as a drug to numb how I feel. Chocolate to help lift my mood. Mashed potatoes to make me feel more relaxed. Sugar to make me hyper. So, I was thinking about this and looked up the Serenity Prayer that is part of what Alcoholics Anonymous use as an integral part of their meetings. It wouldn't hurt to make it one of our mantras too!

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Next time I reach for something not OP...I hope I remember this!

BOB...I didn't eat fish. Missy asked me where I like to eat in Gulf Shores...I told her Louisianna Lagniappe...so that is what we were talking about. Hubby is ok...I just won't push so hard next time when we walk in 90 degree weather :o

TV...Where is the Curves you belong to? I live in Bham and I don't think we have one here..

Ok, all you know I combine SB and WW. Today my points went down because I went to a lower weight :fr: I was HUNGRY most of the day but I know I will get use to it. As for starchy carbs I probably eat more than most SBers. I did before and I do now...but I still lose and that's what is important.

I did go to the SB pyramid that is in the kids book and it says you can have 3-6 starchy carbs. If you are not losing wt you should only have 3. I am sure when I plateau...that will be the first thing I give up.

cheerios for breakfast w/LF milk
1 piece WW bread
1/4 cup WW pasta with tuna and tomato for lunch
WW bread for dinner
1 cup grapes for snack.

Other food - cheese stick for snack, yogurt for snack and grilled chicken, carrots.

Oh...I tried something new with the chicken. I drizzled a little olive oil on it and used a Greek seasoning blend. Then grilled it. It was wonderful. Hubby guzzled it and asked for more.

Deb...I take the Citrucel fiber pills every morning instead of Fiber One. They are great.

Talk to all of you tomorrow.

Anna
222/174/140

[Fillise]

It's almost 9 o'clock and I think I'm going to take a pain pill and crawl into bed soon. TOM should wind down in another day or two--not soon enough as far as I'm concerned.

Gator--I'm coming to your house for dinner! Yum! I love cornish hens and haven't fixed them for a long time, hmmmmm. Again, I think you are the wise woman of the board! Now if we could just do something about your taste in clothes. . .:s:

Agape--yup sounds like you've been there and done that! And you WOULD know that just when I hit "the age" that hormones are no-nos. And Monet won't let me take anything with soy in it, :^: so the options are getting pretty limited.

Deb--sounds like you are getting back on track--good for you. I hate that you had so much trouble on the trip. But you are home now and have access to your pot pies! :lol:

BOB--hope that sun drys you out! I love NYC too! I'm looking forward to taking my youngest niece when she turns 13 in two years--but I'm going to have to pop up there before then. I need a big city fix every now and then!

SEF--speaking as a former ungrateful DD--we are pure *****es when we have it in for our mothers. I used to be awful to my mother, but outgrew it at some point and we get along fine now. I hope your DD will get over it and let you back in! But WE love you and you can come hang out with us anytime!

Jackie--Football season is right around the corner--hard to believe!

Ok I need that pain pill now. Sorry I couldn't get to everyone, but must toddle off to bed!

Nity night!

Susan

[bashful8]

My startchy carbs for today:

3 garden herb flavored triskits
1 ww english muffin
tasted two ww and pumpernickel pretzel sticks
soy chips with rice flour

I am looking for sbstitutes for ww and trying to cut back on the carbs. I'll see if I start losing better :)

Good night,
Steph

[Ellen]

Just a quick check in before bed. I have made a batch of rice pudding using a brown sweet rice I found at the Dekalb Farmer's market here. Wow! It works so well! It is going to be my breakfast tomorrow.

The congestion has settled into my chest, and I feel like I am choking. I plan on dosing with Nyquil as I go to bed. I am not supposed to have alcohol with my medications, but I am tonight! ;)

My visit to the lab was ok, breakfast afterwards was a fiasco. I won't go into the sordid details, but just suffice it to say I need to get a clear start tomorrow morning.....

Sweet dreams everyone!

[beachfan37]

:dancer: 10 Trick Yourself Slim Fat Blasting Diet Tips - Family Circle

1. Eat smaller, more frequent meats...say 7a.m., 10 a.m., 1p.m., 4p.m. and 7p.m. Eating food give your metabolism a boost.

2. Drink Green Tea...it really does boost your metabolism...FYI, I'm taking the One a Day Weight Smart vitamin with green tea extract.

3. Eat spicy foods especially hot chilli peppers. (I can't do this!)

4. Eat breakfast everyday.

5. Eat the right mix of nutrients...this helps your whole body run smoothly.

6. Calculate your calorie needs to be healthy and lose weight. Portion control is essential.

7. Don't skip meals this makes your body think that it is starving and it will store calories as fat instead of burning them.

8. Do strength training...muscle really does burn more calories.

9. Excercise...it burns calories. Take the stairs, park at the end of the parking lot, take a brisk walk at lunch...

10. If you are not losing wt. go see the DX to make sure there are no health problems.

Have a great day everyone. :cool: :D

Anna
222/172/140

[The Quilter]

Hello Everyone! I started a post last night, but right in the middle of a huge thunder/lightening storm I lost connection to the internet. Ooops!!! So what follows is as far as I got last night. I'm sorry I can't get to everybody, but I had to wait until I got to work to post this. And there's no time to do a post here, that's for sure. I hope you all have wonderful days. Take care. I have no idea when I'll be back online at home.


FROM LAST NIGHT:
Hey! Happy SOGGY, RAINY, STORMY Monday Night!!!

Geesh, what's with this weather???? Every day it's sunny and then every day it pours. I feel like we took a wrong turn to the Sundshine State. BOB, are you my new next door neighbor????? Paul's got a softball game tonight and I feel bad for the poor guy. They haven't been able to play for the past three weeks. Everything in the garden is supposed to be dry and dead by now. This is weird. We're still having to cut the grass once a week.

MONET---Sorry to hear that you aren't feeling well again. I hope you're up and at it with your usual gusto very soon. MMMMMmmmmm, your gazpacho sounds wonderful!!! I love that stuff. My boss had a big old bowl of it today for lunch. And it made my mouth water. Take care, girlfriend!!!

BEACH---Thanks for the motivational thoughts. It's a coincidence that you brought up the subject of contentment and gratitude. I've been having a conversation with some of my friends about the difference between being happy and being joyful. Your thoughts went right along with what we were saying. And yesterday we stopped by my MIL's house and she's so full of joy. She said yesterday that she is always so thankful when she's able to do something, even like when she's standing at the sink washing dishes, she pauses and takes a moment to acknowledge the fact that she's healthy enough to do that. She's really taken her diabetes seriously. She knows that it's a fragile business and she's so thrilled that she can go and do and BE!!!!

DEB---I am so sorry that you are feeling the extra weight. That's so frustrating and can really cause so much stress. Believe me, my friend, I have been there and done that many a time. You are not alone with us. Sorry to say many of us can relate to what you are going through. But you are smart to "stop the madness' right now before you make even MORE work for yourself. Last week, I mentioned that I do better when I weigh every day. It keeps me focused because that big digital number flashes in my mind's eye all day long!!! I remember when you were getting to your goal, you would weigh every day and that seemed to help. Even though it would be very disheartening to get on the scale now, do you think it would help you. Kind of like facing the music and getting on with what muse be done. Oh well, it's just a thought. You know what will work for you. Just trying to put good thoughts in your head. Just keep remember how great you felt when you were losing. You can do it again. Just get started and make it a good strong start with no going off the wagon. I had about six weeks this summer, where I was really struggling. Giving myself all these "little extras" that soon ended up not being extras, but a daily thing. Well, I picked up a few pounds. At one point when I weighed I think I was up about EIGHT POUNDS!!! But as of this morning, I've lost 4 of that 8, so I'm back into the right direction. Take care. What's done is done. Last week our WW leader reminded us that all the power is in our hands. Because it's our hands that put the food in our mouths. She tried to give us other things to do with our hands instead of getting food that we didn't need or shouldn't eat. When you said you wouldn't get on the scale, maybe you should and just face it. It might look a lot less powerful if you faced it.

FILLISE---Are you stealing some of our sunshine??? She sure get more rain than sun. Pretty soon we're going to have to call it Swampcinnati!!!! I'm with you girlfriend!!! We are going after a GREAT, SUPER, TERRIFIC OP week!!! WE CAN DO IT!!!!!

GATOR---Please read what I just wrote to BEACH. It's kind of odd how we're all circling around the same concept and none of us are even in the same state!!! I'm emailing you something that I read last week in the second Mitford book. Have you ever read them? They are great! I read them while on the treadmill in the morning. It's a great way to start the day. Sometimes my morning prayers will stem from something I've read in them.

TV---Welcome back!!! I'm jealous that you get to go to Curves. I have so many friends who love, love, LOVE it. Keep it up. You'll be sharing all your successes in no time.

BASHFUL---I think there's a disease called Celliac's Disease that has to do with being allergic to wheat gluton. But that disease gives you serious digestive woes. So if you don't have them, then it's not that particular affliction. I found mayoclinic.com and they explain all types of diseases very clearly. I read all about my IBS on there.

Okay, so now I'm getting myself way behind. But not much to do about it. Take care.
Kim

[Debelli]

Good Tuesday Morning:wave:

Made it through yesterday but definitely ended up eating too much, but all on plan. I don't know what happened last night but I was absolutely STARVING and nothing I ate was satisfying my ferrousous appetite, so I ate but it was all in line, just the portions weren't:shrug: I know it happens sometimes to me due to hormones so I'm hoping it won't repeat today. I did end up having an additional starchy carb, 2 wheat crackers.

Does this ever happen to anyone besides me? When you go on a diet, or in my case, recommit, you dream about eating stuff off plan? I did that last night, not sure what it was, but some kind of cake. Woke up thinking I'd blown it - that's more of a nightmare.

AGAPE, CONGRATS on losing another 5lbs, I'm sure your Dr. was pleased, to say the least:) Even though you think you weren't OP something seemed to be working in the right direction:) Thanks for the sweet comments about LAUREN, she likes when people say she looks like me and not her father:)

GATOR, when I was with ROSE she made this fantastic slaw that she said she posted on the board - you should try it if you haven't, the two of you really could open a restaurant together with the way you two can cook!!!

BEACH, I'm the same with the eating except the potatoes. Give me candy and ice cream, followed by cookies and any other junk food. I'm definitely a sweet person, over starches. Citrucel? What ingredients are in them and how much fiber do they have. I got well over 40 grams of fiber yesterday! Have to get some more raspberries today-love them and they're great in fiber.

FILLISE and EVERYONE ELSE - will have to p/u where I've left off. Have to run MICHAEL to a friends house and need to hop in the shower. Will have the computer to myself later on so I will be able to get back on the board easily.

Have a wonderful day!!!

{{{{HUGS}}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

[Debelli]

My TUESDAY TIP With all the talk about emotional eating, here's one site that had a bit of info on it

http://www.cchs.net/health/health-info/docs/0600/0645.asp?index=4761

What We Eat Affects How We Feel


Food should make us feel good. It tastes great and nourishes our bodies. When eaten in too little or excessive quantities, however, our physical appearance can be altered, which can create negative feelings toward food.

By learning how to make better choices, you may be able to control compulsive eating, binging and weight gain. In addition to better appetite control, feelings of calmness, high energy levels or alertness may also be experienced from the foods you eat.

Food and its affect on mood-modifying brain chemicals
Aside from providing the nutrients and energy your body needs to function, food may also have an influence on appetite and moods. Research shows that certain foods affect powerful mood-modifying brain chemicals called neurotransmitters. Neurotransmitters are made from the foods we eat and are present in higher concentrations after meals than between them.

Of the many neurotransmitters, only a few affect appetite:

Serotonin -- a chemical released after eating carbohydrates (sugars and starches) that enhances calmness, improves mood and lessens depression. High levels of serotonin control appetite and satisfy cravings.

Norepinephrine -- a chemical released after eating protein (meats, dairy, legumes) that enhances mental concentration and alertness but does not satisfy cravings.

Endorphins -- chemicals released after eating fat. They transmit high-level energy and create a sense of euphoria but do not satisfy cravings.

Food cravings

At one time or another, all of us have experienced a food craving -- that strong desire for a specific food. It might be for chocolate, popcorn, Chinese food or candy. Food cravings are perfectly normal and actually may help people feel better by improving moods, calming nerves and boosting energy. Cultural influences, taste and emotional attachment define the foods we crave. Whatever the food is, the more you ignore the craving, the more it intensifies.

Women are twice as likely than men to feel good when they fulfill their food cravings. Usually these cravings are for foods containing sugar and fat. Most women experience food cravings more during premenstruation, pregnancy, at the transition of menopause or while on restrictive weight loss diets.

The number one reported food craved by women is chocolate. That's not a surprise since it contains sugar and fat, which increases serotonin and endorphins. These brain chemicals make us feel very good.

The more you ignore a food craving or deny yourself a particular food, the more you want it. Abstinence and restriction intensify a food craving, which can lead to binge eating.

Food binging

Food binging is when a person eats large amounts of foods in short periods of time. Usually the foods are high in carbohydrates and fat. Binge eating has been associated with anger, anxiety, sadness, depression and irritability. In addition, it is not uncommon for people to binge once they stop dieting, to compensate for all the times they missed eating their favorite foods.

How can food cravings be managed?

The best way to manage a food craving is to eat a small portion of the craved food shortly after the craving begins. This will satisfy the craving, prevent overeating and enhance your mood. For example, one Hershey's Kiss may satisfy your chocolate craving and is only 25 calories!

What food choices are best?

What you choose for a meal or snack can make a difference in how much you eat or how soon you will desire to eat again. Eating a high carbohydrate meal or snack will quickly satisfy your appetite and you may desire less food for the next meal. Foods high in protein and fat do not have this affect.

Carbohydrate food choices are high in fiber, low in fat and raise serotonin levels, so you may feel more calm and your mood may be improved. For most people, it is best to eat high carbohydrate meals for breakfast and dinner. Choose foods such as breads, cereals, potatoes, rice, pasta, fruits or vegetables. Candy may also be chosen, but is not nutritious. If you wake up during the night and feel hungry, try a carbohydrate snack.

The best time to eat a high protein meal is when you need to stay alert or your mental performance needs to be at its best. For those who work during the day, a high protein lunch or afternoon snack can increase your concentration. Eating a high protein dinner can increase alertness for those who work evenings or plan to attend a late social function. Choose items such as lean meat, skinless poultry, fish, lowfat tofu, legumes, or non-fat yogurt, milk or cheese.

If you are like most people, you will probably eat a combination of carbohydrate, protein and fat during one meal. Since the neurotransmitter for protein (norepinephrine) dominates after eating a meal containing carbohydrate, fat and protein, you may feel more alert but your craving may not be satisfied. Therefore, you may eat more or crave foods high in carbohydrate and fat. This will increase serotonin and endorphin levels in the brain and satisfy your craving. Remember, however, that fat should not exceed 30% of your total daily calories.

[Pancho]

Good Tuesday morning everyone:

I have to take my 5-year old to see her gastro specialist today. She is supposed to see her every six months and it has been around 10. She has a condition called Eosonophil Esophagitis...basically her esophagus has allergies to certain things, including food and causes her to cough a lot and sometimes gives her tummy aches.

I did end up having Triscuits yesterday (6 of them), so that upped my carb intake to 4-5 starchy carbs. I will do better today. I am going to have yogurt this morning for breakfast, and save my carbs for a little later.

Sef: Sorry to hear about your daughter; it's such a shame...I hope everything works itself out soon! I don't know the story so I shouldn't automatically assign blame to your daughter, but if your son tells you not to waste your energy worrying about it, then I'd have to say the same thing. Try not to worry about it, and maybe give her her space for a while. If she is not responding to your previous attempts of getting together, she obviously doesn't want to right now. I hope you get back on plan. No-one is worth your health and YOU ALONE are important enough to get back on track. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING TO SET US BACK IF WE LET IT. Pick yourself up and give yourself a pat on the back (or a swift kick in the behind:lol: ) and move on. I know it is much easier said than done, but look for the positives in your life and cherish those things. I am sure your daughter will come around in her own time. I just hope it is sooner than later. How old is your daughter?

agape: Very true; that's a way to put it all in perspective. We can always find more good than bad in our lives. We are here and alive aren't we?

beach: You have your grapes listed as a starchy carb, are they considered a starchy carb or just a carb?

My 5-year old is still asleep; she's usually been up for about an hour by now. My 12-month old is quietly playing alone (what a switch). I better take advantage of this time to go get some breakfast, brush teeth and tidy up a bit.

I hope you all have a wonderful day, and I hope to check in later today.

P.S. Of all the recipes my daughter and I tried last weekend, there's only one that I'd recommend and it is the zucchini bread. It is really good. I had a slice out of the oven with a little butter on it, and liked it o.k, but now that it has been in the fridge, I like it so much better cold. It is moist and really good. I will post it later when I get back on the computer. I love to have this around for the mornings I leave early for the gym; I can just eat a slice on the way there.

Take care.

[Libra925]

Good morning everyone. I'm new here and starting SB today. I've tried to start a couple of times over the last two weeks, but today is absolutely the day. I finished reading the book yesterday. I'm looking for a WOE that I can do the rest of my life and I believe this is it. I have a lot of weight to lose - appox 135 lbs. I saw in a reply to another newbie that this can be done on SB so here goes!!

Kim, I read what you said about Jan Karon's books on Mitford. I have read all of the books and love them. I'm also a fairly new quilter. I've sewn for years and years for my three daughters (all grown now). I made a quilt for each of my three grandchildren last Christmas, but they were tacked on the machine and not hand quilted. I wanted them to be able to drag them around and to enjoy them without their moms worrying about all the hours of work I would have put into them by handquilting them.

Anyway, I would love to be part of this group. You all sound so positive and encouraging.

Marilyn

[daisey_73]

Good morning everyone! I usually don't post unless I have a question but I feel really good today and I wanted everyone to know that I finally dropped a pound. I have been at 157-159 since starting SB three weeks ago and today (and yesterday) I am 156!!!!!!!!
My starchy carbs yesterday was 1 serving of triscuits.
For today so far is 1 bowl of oatmeal.
Tomorrow night I'm going out for crablegs! It is my anniversary dinner. We have been married 4 years.
Well gotta go to work will be back this evening to post anymore starchy carbs I eat today.

[tysgrammy]

Well I made it through my first day!

Thanks for all the support and encouragement.

Marilyn, I also have 125-135 lbs to lose. I wish you the best of luck.

Cindy

[beachfan37]

Debbie...I wanted to say that I had thought the same thing that Quilter said about weighing but wasn't sure how to say it. She said perfectly what I was thinking. I really think sometimes just facing where we are and moving forward is the way to go. Just my thoughts...Also, you will feel such an accomplishment when you see the losses on the scale which you will see! :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[groovia]

I finally found that Good Housekeeping issue, and read the article about Fad Dieting and SB.

I don't know why I'm taking it so personally, but, as I expected, I was really mad after I read that article.

I think it MAY have to do with the amount of faith I have in myself or the amount of faith I put in SB. The fact that this jerk is writing the whole thing off, makes me feel like I'm going to fail, that we're all wasting our time, and that this WOE is a temporary fad.

So- should I write them? Should we compose an article for them? I feel like putting my energy into this and contacting the SB doctors/authors, and getting statistics and showing GH & the jerk Jim Karas a thing or 2.

AND, what even made me madder, is that the author of that article has a website www.jimkaras.com because he's supposed to be a diet & fitness guru. BUT, you have to PAY to join his stupid club, and his books seem just as hokey as a "fad" diet.

AND AND - he praises Atkins more than SB, and I think SB is a WAY EASIER WOE and is more likely to be a lifelong lifestyle. (not that there's anything wrong with Atkins)

So, yeah, I feel like writing them, and then I wonder if it is a waste of time (and energy). B/c it would make me WAY madder if they blew off whatever we said in response.

OY! Maybe the new orleans doctors have a publicist who is working on it?

Kelly

[tysgrammy]

I dont understand counting carbs to lose weight. How many carbs should I have daily if I am trying to lose weight? Do you count carbs by the amount of carb grams for each food item? I hope everyone will be patient with me and all my questions while I attempt to learn this new WOE.

[The Quilter]

GROOVIA . . . YOU GO GIRL!!!!! Take your anger and use it for some good. Write a letter to GH editors. Write to the guy who wrote the article. Speak your mind. I'm wondering how many letters GH will get standing up for SB. But you should write. You brought up some good points that could be very interesting and eye opening to a lot of people!!!!!

I believe there is not one diet that will work for everyone. Therefore, I don't htink these "experts" should NOT use their fame or the fact that somebody will pay them for an opinion to downgrade diets that are healthy and are working for people. It's discouraging to those who struggle.

Kim

[Solly]

This is a quickie and my replies are short. Sorry I am doing this while I choke my lunch down and I have to run out of here. Things are crazy at work. Just no time to play on here. If i missed anyone, I apologize, it's not intentional.

My strachy carbs today will be 1 ww tortilla for dinner. (2 carbs)

Got in my walk this morning and hope to get in 3 more miles tonight plus wt training. Got my wt training in last nite.


TV, glad you are back. Sounds like you are doing great with curves. Lots of people really like it.

Bashful, can't answer the wheat question, but are you staying 100% OP and still not losing?

Melf, interesting article, I just had a MCD grilled chicken salad. No crutons, ranch dressing. My DD said I should have gottent he hamburger.

Chris, have a great vacation.

Pancho, welcome back. sounds like you did ok. Just becareful with those indiscretions, they can get you in the end.

Sef, My heart breaks for you. We want you. Please keep coming here. I hope things get better with DD, but if they don't, you must find some happiness within yourself and DS.

Bob, me naked? That would be a scary thing. They would empty out the airport.

Deb, hope your back feels better. Get some much needed rest. Funny about the draming of food. I do that all the time. I wake up and think thank goodness I only dreamed I ate it.

Agape, nice surprise at the Dr. Good for you.

Beachfan, thanks for the reminder that we can't control everything.

Susan, hope you are feeling better todya.

Monet, hope you feel better soon.

Kim, it is soggy here too. Every Monday it rains and my DD's VB game gets rained out or they play in the pouring rain.

Libra, Welcome this is a great board and SB is something you can do for life.

Daisey, Congrats on getting rid of that pound.

Tysgrammy, one day at a time. Good job. 1-3 starchy carbs a day. a starchy carb is 1 pc wwsg bread, cereal, brown rice, ww pasta, ww tortillia, etc. Easy 1,2,3,

Wish I had more time here. Willtry to check in tomorrow.

Jackie Good luck on WIW. Cna't make it to chat, computer is down.

[Debelli]

Hey!:wave:

Back again. Had to take MICHAEL to his friends house and have to go back at 3pm to get him. I wish it was closer, not many of his friends live close since the school takes kids from all over the county.

Had a pot pie for lunch. I swear, I could eat one of those (okay, I could eat 2 of them) a day, love them. That so far is my starchy carb. I've had almost a liter of tea, unsweetened, so far and will work on getting some more down me. Hoping I don't have a ferocious appetite later today as I did yesterday!!!

NEWBIES: There's quite a few new members on the board since I left. If you would, if you'd like (nothing's mandatory here) post your BIO on our BIO BOARD, it would be great to learn more about you. Also, I use the BIO BOARD to remind everyone of birthdays, as well as keep you up-to-date on happenings on the board, like if it goes down. Also, on the SB INFORMATION BOARDS, if you haven't already, do take a look at these boards, there's some excellent archived information on the boards that you will most undoubtedly find very helpful as you continue on this SB journey. Also, if you'd like to be included on our TELEPHONE TREE just e-mail me ( Debelli@AOL.COM ) with your screen name, real name, telephone number and time zone and I'll put you on and then send off copies to all the members who are on there already, as well as yourself. Since I have nights and weekends free on my phone, you never know when I'll be giving you a ring!!!!

Well, I bit the bullet and stepped on the scale and EXACTLY as I thought, I had gained yet ANOTHER 10lbs. I weighed myself before leaving on the trip and in just a matter of weeks have easily managed to gain ANOTHER 10lbs!:eek: I knew it, I felt it, but to see it on that scale confirmed my feelings. Can you imagine, what it takes to gain 10lbs? You need to eat 3500 calories OVER your caloric intake to stay the same weight-just do the math. Unfortunately, it doesn't come off as fast as it comes on. If I had only stayed where I was before the trip I'd of easily found myself back at goal in a decent amount of time. I was giving myself til December to see where I'd get, but now, it may take a lot longer, esp. since there's no exercise going on here. Anyhow, the one thing that I felt, or maybe I should say, didn't feel after seeing those horrific numbers was the urge to go console myself in food! Hey, it's something!;) Well, here's the low down, and it's not a pretty confession: Before I left on the trip I was at 140 - this morning 150. There, I said it, in writing and it's mine to own up to.

I won't be stepping on the scale often, at least I hope not. But I will do so once in a while. What's really interesting, as well, is how crappy and fat I feel at this weight. I can't even imagine being another pound heavier, though I have been many pounds heavier. I guess having been at goal for about 1 1/2 years before this made my body adjust for the first time and now, it's really bothering me, as with before, I'd lose weight and never keep any off for any length of time. Maybe another plus?

Oh, forgot to mention-my sister who's once again pregnant with number 6, found out, ANOTHER GIRL! This is going to be the last one, they have no place to put this one, except maybe in the new pool their building in the backyard:rolleyes: Can't wait to see the name she pulls for this one, the odder the better. She mentioned MACKENZIE JADE the other day, her DH wasn't too thrilled.

FILLISE, definitely back on track, esp. after seen those numbers under my feet:fr: Yes, definitely home again, the mess reminds me of being so each day and just stocked up on some more pot pies today:yes: Hope you feel better!!!

BASHFUL, looks like you did okay with your carb intake yesterday. Which pretzels are the ones you mentioned, SNYDER'S?

MONET, rice pudding - YUMMY! Is it a recipe from the board or another one, and if another one, could you post it? Sorry to hear you are still sick, just want to make sure you don't get pnemonia!!!

BEACH, just read the same article last night. In another magazine I get there's an article about losing the weight and gaining it back, as we both know, so many of us do, but it's actually from a book that I happen to have from the library, so going to read it when I get a chance, not that there's probably anything I don't already know, but sometimes seeing things in black and white... As you can see, I did it. Hey, don't worry about saying something to me ever, about anything, I can take it, I'm a big girl :queen: Thanks for all the hugs - I need them!

QUILTER, as you can see from what I wrote above your post made me jump on the scale and face the music, though I knew it was going to be a death march more than music!:rolleyes: I def. don't want to get back on the scale as I use to be and will try to stay off of it as much as I can and go by how I feel. I can tell when I'm up or down, that's for sure - don't need a scale to confirm it, so asta la vista to the scale for now.

PANCHO, you mentioned yogurt. Last night when I was hungry I took some plain FF yogurt and stired in a little sweetener and a Tbl of the peanut butter flour I have and it was delish!! Looking forward to seeing the recipe for the zucchini bread. I have a zucchini loaf cake recipe on the recipe boards that's to die for and everyone who tries it loves it - can't make it though, I'd eat the whole thing!::ziplip:

LIBRA http://members.aol.com/eldemila/sb_sign3.jpg Glad you've decided to join us - another Libra - you're in good company, there's a few of us on here:D Yes, this WOE is not only doable for the rest of your life but can be done so easily as you wittle down to your goal weight. Don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have, we love helping others along the way as we're all in this together and totally understand where you are and where you are headed. We're hear for you, for support and friendship:)

DAISY, CONGRATS on your loss as well as your anniversary. ENJOY!

GRAMMY, you go girl! The first few days are the hardest, just stay strong and once you get over that little hump ahead you'll feel so much better in so many ways. CONGRATS!:D CARBS, SB recommends approx. 40% come from carbs. Take your caloric intake, multiply that number by .40 and divide by 4 and you'll have the grams of carbs a day, approx.

GROOVIA, I have read so many article about SB and how it's a fad diet, and so many false information through the years that yes, it get's you pissed because you KNOW it's not right, and I've even written a letter or two in the past, to no avail, to magazines that printed false info. Where do they get this from you may ask, well, they get it from other false information they have scarfed off other people who wrote about SB incorrectly instead of doing their own research. Actually, that's exactly what the writers of the SB book did themselves, and why the book can and is confusing. They took MICHEL MONTIGNACS book that was out in France and made a US version before he could. The articles you've probably seen that promote this WOE are written by those responsible writers who actually take the time and effort to do their own research and get the true facts. I've given up trying to right the wrongs that have been written-those of us who know the truth, along with the countless doctors who have been recommending SB to their patients with wonderful results know what a great WOE this is and it's good for us that we do know and don't let what the nay-sayers stand in our way of staying on this WOE. Don't waste your breath on them, instead, use it to exercise;)

JACKK, good for you on the walking, I'm sorta looking forward to getting back into my routine once my toe heals a bit better, though I'm not looking forward to loosening my fanny pack to fit around me which I know will have to be done! Glad to know I'm not the only one who dreams about food!!!! Backs fine, thanks - guess it was gas:^:

Okay, gotta hit the urination station, then off to the grocery store. I don't know if you've all been doing chat while I've been away - anyone care to answer. I won't be able to get on tonight anyhow, I have a 7pm board meeting at Starbucks tonight (not Eli's store, another one, unfortunately), so I won't be back in time I think. It's right before the start of school and there's lots to discuss.

Will try to check in later

{{{{HUGS}}}:grouphug:

Debbie

[Libra925]

Wow! What a quick response. Thank you so much for the welcome. I finally reached a point where I knew I had to do something. I had considered SB a few years ago, but never did it. I tried Atkins, but missed my ww bread and fruit too much. I have a friend here at work that knows a guy who lost about 150 lbs 3 years ago and he's kept it off since then. Anyway, I went to the SB web page and saw this link. I can't believe it. All of this support, advice and encouragement and it's free. That's an important factor for me right now and I really, really appreciate you being here.

Debbie, I'll go to the site and enter my bio. So glad your back is better. When the back hurts, you don't feel like doing anything.

Marilyn

[Libra925]

:?: Okay, I give up. Where is the bio board?
Marilyn

[Debelli]

Quickie:

CHECK OUT THIS WEBSITE! It has a great overview of calories and the breakdown of carbs, fats, etc. you should eat according to your caloric intake, among some other nutrional information that's good to note:

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:krx5t70MO1wJ:www.lillydiabetes.com/Includes/meal.pdf+starchy+carbohydrates+day+servings&hl=en&lr=lang_ar</a>|lang_en|lang_fr&ie=UTF-8

LIBRA, you have NO idea how much support and friendship you can get from the wonderful group on this board, just you wait. I can tell you, as many others can, this is close group, on the board and off. Over the last 3 1/2 years I've been fortunate to meet 23 past/present board members, at least that's the last count, could be a bit higher, age, you know;) Many of the gals e-mail each other and have developed a stronger relationship, others talk to each other on the phone from time-to-time and those of us who've been lucky to meet others can attest to how wonderful each one really is. Hopefully you'll gain the same expereinces:)

Okay, gotta run! Let me know what you think of the site and the info from above that I posted!

Deb

[Debelli]

Here's the link to the BIO BOARD!!!!!



CLICK HERE FOR THE BIO BOARD!!! (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12056)

This is in the SB INFORMATION BOARD, so do check out the other wonderful boards and all the weath of information they hold. Check out the PHOTO ALBUM BOARD as well:)

[TVthatsME]

Hi everyone - Just a quick check in...

Got 66 oz of water in yesterday and 36 so far today!

I have been completely OP since yesterday morning. I had a GREAT lunch (free too, even better:)) at Longhorn - grilled chicken and a sweet potato - it was fabulous!!

Got my little man off to his first FULL day of kindergarden this morning. I cried all the way to work. Not to mention my BIG one is in 6th grade now and hurried in so as not to be seen walking with his Mom... I think I'll plant a big kiss on him the next time I catch him around his friends!

Sef - I felt so bad to read about your DD problems. You have always sounded so chipper and sweet, I just can't imagine that you have been anything but a GREAT MOM!! I'm with your son, don't waste time worrying anymore. She'll need or want something soon enough and then you can stick her with the "and just where have you been" question and turn on the guilt! She should be ashamed not to have called to thank you for the gifts - thats just plain old bad manners (and I'm sure you taught her better). Chin up, you can do what you can do and thats all you can do.

Deb - so does decaf unsweet tea count as water? I could choke more down if thats the case!! I heard somewhere that they open a CURVES somewhere a whole bunch of times every day, so they are bound to get down there soon!

Pancho - Yes, the exercise is good. I've never really gotten into it, sorta been a couch potato, but I'm loving it now. It gives me a little time to myself, for myself, and it feels good. Hope its addictive!

Monet - hope you get to feeling better. How did those lab results turn out? You are a hypothyroid like me, right?

Beachfan37 - I live in Athens (North AL), work in Huntsville. Athens actually has a CURVES. I can't believe we've got one and big old B-Ham doesn't!

Gator - You made me want to go out and get some cornish hens... yummy!

Bob - Yea, I'm back. Not much tube time here lately though.

Quilter - Yes, I think CURVES is gonna be great for me. I actually like the workout!

JackK - Thanks for the welcome back - Its good to be back :)

Gotta go,
tv

[beachfan37]

:cp: DEB...WTG facing the monster scale. Well look on the bright side...you didn't gain back as much as I did! I had lost to 130 and gained back to 196...1 year ago last week I was 10 pounds less than I am today. So...we all can do this together.:strong:

[sef]

HiedieHo All!

Rain, Rain go away. No pool today!

Onw day at a time. Still on OP and holding.

BOB: Paxil? A good shaking or a kick you know where!! I'm little behind on things. How are you feeling? Have you gotten some relief?

DEB: I have tried talking to DD. Get nowhere. She has the Dickie Smothers Syndrome. No matter what I do, give or say she thinks it's never enough. I have apologized for any hurts or wrongs I may have done (real or imagined,,,,,,I don't tell her that) and there's no satisfaction. I guess I wasn't a very good mother and am now paying for it, altho my DIL says I raised my DS and he's entirely different, so I'm one for two. Since she has settled in MD she makes frequent trips back home and has become close with the cousins there (there's a passel of 'em). They are all really nice, and if she can't accept us I am glad she has ties with them.

AGAPE: Isn't it nice when we do better than we think we did? I like your positive attitude. My just got lost for a while, needed to be reminded.

GATOR: Thanx for being nice. My DD will be 41 this month. At least she lives a distance and I can use that excuse for her lack of interest. She is very good at the big things. When I was back east last year, everyone thought it was wonderful that she threw a surprise Bday party for me and it was! She couldn't even be there as she had to work. She went to a lot of trouble planning it all. Yet she goes weeks without calling or reponding to answering machine messages! Let's not put your DS and my DD together, God only knows what would result! I hope your friend is able to help you. Although I don't like to think that other people may have the same type of problem, it is nice to know I'm not alone. All families aren't the Cleavers!

BEACH: Funny you shouldmention the Serenity Prayer. I am making a sampler of it for a friend that is going through a rough time and that prayer has helped me so much. As I said above sometimes we need to be reminded of things. We get overwhelmed by something and other things get lost. I thought of the prayer for my friend but forgot to use it myself! Thank you.

FILLISE: Sorry you are not feeling well. Hope you got a good night's rest. My DD better hurry up and outgrow it! She's starting to get long in the tooth! Thanks for kind words.

MONET: Are you going to share the rice brand name with us? I love rice pudding. Hope you feel better.

PANCHO: A swift kick is what I need. I can't pat myself on the back as I don't feel it's worth the energy! I'm sure if DD and I each wrote to Dear Abby there would be two entirely different stories! Is there a right or wrong? I don't know.

LIBRA: Welcome. This is a good woe. Yeah, you lose but you feel better and not just because you are carrying less of you around. The people here are wonderful.

GROOVIA: You said it all, just send a copy of your post to Karas. Would give him pause and something to think about!

JACKK: I know I can handle this but at times it just seems too much. I usually give in to DD's demands to keep peace, then someone asked me why I reward her for being mean, do I reward DS? DS doesn't make demands, he may ask or suggest and I do the same with him.

TV: Thanks. You know how it is Frued always blamed it on the mama!

Thank you all for your encouragemnet, you don't know what it means to me.

Now a more cheerful request. I have a friend that had to retire as an organist. I found this beautiful sampler chart with a rainbow, clouds, flowers and butterflies. The verse doesn't fit. Does anyone know of a short verse about rainbows and music. Like music is a rainbow of emotions or sounds that show God's love or something along those lines? Even a thought might inspire me to write a verse. I guess people don't think of rainbows and music do they?

DIL just came home wants to chat.

Take care, Shirley

[bashful8]

Well.... So much has been going on on this board since I checked this morning as I was running out the door. It took quiet a while to read everything.

I want to start by just saying in general how wonderful everyone here is :cloud9: I still can't get over it. You all are really supportive of one another. As a newbie (although I think when I did my bio I figured out that I've been doign the WOE for about 4 weeks-time flys), it is really inspirational to read all the posts to me and others that are so supportive and helpful. :goodvibes And it is such an inviting place to come to (almost addictive-in a goodway). I've felt so welcome. Thank you all for that!:grouphug:

I will really miss this in a few weeks when I have to start internship and won't be able to check in every few hours b/c things will be so crazy.:cry:

DEBBIE: I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the "advice" you sent me today. :angel: I need to read your e-mail a couple of more times, but it's the most well constructed concise advice about losing this weight that I think I've ever gotten. And I think that it will be really helpful for me to gage how much I'm eating. I may actually be eating too little. :spin: I'm going to try your journaling recommendation tomorrow to see if I can figure it out. (And the pretzles were Snyder's-not bad tasting).

BEACHFAN: Thank you for all your advice also, but mostly for your inspiration this week. You've really helped remind me that, Yes I need to lose weight and that can be really tough sometimes, but there are a lot a WONDERFUL :dance: things in my life to be grateful for. And I too need to remember the serenity prayer and take advantage of it.

GROVIA & SEF: I have the same advice for both of you, even though they are totally different situations. Follow your heart, your gut. Grovia, if it will make you feel better (less angry) write that letter. Sef, if addressing the issue with your dd will help you feel better then pick up the phone. If it will make you feel worse then put it off for now and get yourself to a place where you will be able to handle whatever she throws back at you. Sometimes we need to make ourselves stronger before we can address certain things. Maybe this is one of those for you. :chin:

I am still struggling with the fact that I don't like more veggies (except lettuce, cucumber & broccoli). Does anyone have any good recipes for veggies? :idea: I checked the info board but didn't see any I thought I might like to try.

I hope that everyone has a wonderful evening and a great SB day tomorrow. :wizard:

:) Steph

[woodfrogs]

Good evening. It certainly sounds like everyone is busy with life and trying to deal with weight loss. I have to say that I feel that my goal of losing 135 pounds is realistic(I started at 270). I've weighed around 130 in the past and feel confident that I can back to that weight. I'm also looking forward to WIW, even 1/2 a pond is better than nothing. Mostly OP this week, I even brought food to the housearming party we went to, just to make sure I'd have something to eat. Went to the gym and did 1.8 miles on the elliptical machine and then a Pilates class. Wonderful, no-impact exercise.
Starchy carbs - ww bread at breakfast
I hope to post again tomorrow.

Barbara
270/238.5/135

[THE BIG ORANGE BABE]

EVENING EVERY BUDDY!!!

Just a quickie cause BIG BROTHER is about to start!

Took Kate to get her hair cut and they were having a special...
$3.99 :eek: Well, I decided to get mine cut too for that price....and it's a better cut than the one 5 weeks ago that I paid $30 for!!!! For those of you who don't know me, I wear my hair REALLY SHORT and it just digs another hole in my arse to pay a lot of money to get it chopped off! This girl who cut me today was WONDERFUL and like I said.....$3.99 (sounds like one of DEBBIE'S deals :eek: ) opposed to $30 ?????HELLO????

Can't get to everyone, but I do want to let SEF know that YES!!!
I'm FINALLY feeling better! Thanks for asking!

See y'all later!

BOB

[Ellen]

Just a quick note before bed again. After work today, I had to run by the school and talk with Laura's counselor to get her schedule all fixed. She was dropping, changing and rearranging the whole thing, and with me there, they were more willing to do what she was asking. I had an hour to chill after we got home before my daughter and son in law showed up for dinner. (They invited themselves! :) ) My son came too, and I grilled bratwurst and hamburgers. I made another batch of gazpacho, and had some of that too. For veggies today, I had the gazpacho, with tomato juice and cukes, carrots, tomatoes and celery chopped up and mixed in. I had broccoli slaw, and some fresh steamed spinach. I had the Nature's Own SGWW buns to go with the brats and burgers. It was fun having the crew here for dinner, but unfortunately, they all jumped up and ran out...and left me with a huge mess!

I am feeling a good bit better tonight. I still have some congestion in my lungs, but it seems better than yesterday.

DEB: The rice pudding was my own concoction... I can post the recipe, but I wonder how easy it is to find the brown sweet rice. I have never seen it anywhere but the DeKalb Farmer's Market. It is an Asian sticky rice, and perfect for making pudding.

SEF: I am so sorry about the situation with your daughter. Perhaps she is jealous, but doesn't realize it?? She is so blest to have you, and she is wasting that blessing. You can come visit me for a month.

TV: I won't get the lab results for a week. Yes, I am hypothyroid. My doctor has me on a compounded prescription of T3, as well as Unithroid for T4. I am going to predict that my T3 levels were too low still...and my T4 just right. The insulin test will be too high, but I have been really lax in taking my Glucophage, so hopefully he won't change it. Makes me sick... I feel for you with your little guy starting kindergarten! Seems like a century ago for me. My youngest started her senior year yesterday. She is already complaining that she can't take another day. Yes, she is a drama queen! :(

BOB: Where did you go for a $3.99 haircut? Great Clips runs specials like that here...I love them. They always seem to do a great job.

JACK: Didn't you ask what gazpacho was? It is like a salad soup. It is chopped fresh veggies in a tomato juice base. I use carrots, cukes, tomatoes, celery, and green pepper, some garlic and a bit of olive oil, with a dash of lemon juice for taste. Its best served very cold. My son in law informs me it should be pureed, but I frankly like the crunch of the veggies.

Ok, I know I am neglecting so many of you. Things are getting better, and I am slowly getting used