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Happy Canuk
08-04-2003, 04:16 PM
Boy, we just broke the 100 mark. What a bunch of chatterers:lol:

Saturday, we went out to a nearby lake to see what it was like. Very nice indeed. It is a really small lake, compared to where I used to live, but still nice. Playground and camping. Then we drove around the area of the city we moved to just to see where everything was. That was enlightening. Then we decided to take a look at the airport, since they have been doing lots of renos on at. It has grown by leaps and bounds and it is still not finished. We thought we could at least get a coffee out there, but everything had closed.

Sunday, my son came over in the afternoon and then my brother and SIL came over for dinner. REally enjoyed the visit.

This afternoon, my daughter and her family are coming over - they SAID not for supper, but we shall see. It is a long weekend here this week, and both my daughter and SIL have been on holidays and have to go back to work tomorrow.

Mima - glad your stomach is behaving. It is just such a nusiance when it isn't.

Meme - glad you got some time off for good behavior:lol: Hope you used it to just rest and watch movies.

Joanne - hope your stomach is feeling better, and that the pills have helped.

Anagram - I do so hope that your hubby was able to rest and that you both are feeling better. Stress never helps us, that is for sure.

Hi Ally - Hope you had a good weekend.

Candice - still MIA.

Everyone enjoy the day.

Joanne D
08-05-2003, 10:12 AM
Happy and All- The new medication has helped . I have had no pain in my abdomen or stomach for several days.
What a relief! I went out yesterday to try and find a tote bag for my daughter that she can use to carry her yarn and work in when she goes on her trips. Nothing that was anything I could use as a gift to be found. So I got some nice heavy material and I will make it. I can't believe my little girl will be 47 years young.
My G/son will be down from Norfolk this weekend. It will be nice seeing him.
Bye for now. I hope all of you are doing well.How you standing the freedom Meme?
Joanne

Candicej
08-06-2003, 04:02 AM
Just a quick update..I'm just plain worn out! Got DS off last Friday and he got there safely but his roomate had car trouble and did not get there on Friday so my son had to unload and move in all by himself! He survived without me......I still felt bad that he was all alone in a new place his first night! Cleaned up his room here and had to move stuff from the hallway into it for now..having a new mattress delivered for dH and me...The old one is 26 years old!

The dog is still with us for now..but it is really wearing on me. The vet said to try the new arthritis drug for dogs and it made her sick...a big mess everywhere! WE have restarted it in a smaller dose so far so good, but we have not seen much improvement.

The bees are still here but most of them are drowning in the water...how stupid are they?

Well...I know for sure I am not a stress or emotional eater cause I have lost 3 pounds now (my Cookie gain from last Christmas). All this anxiety keeps me hopping!

Candicej
08-06-2003, 04:16 AM
Oh my Happy Anne!!!!!!!!!!! Just skimmed through the other thread and read about your heart pounding..how scary and I am so glad you are ok..I would miss you very much if you disappeared!:D ((((((HUgs))))) :D

Joanne D
08-06-2003, 08:35 PM
Candice- Believe it or not that boy of yours will do just fine. One thing about them they will always come home untill they get married and sometimes even then.
I walked last night and tonight. I almost melted from the heat. I am looking forward to cool weather already. We probably won't get it till October.
I made my daughter a bag to carry her crochet work in. It looks really nice. I got some heavy fabric for it.Lets see how long this one lasts. She carries it on all her trips.
Hello everybody...Joanne

Candicej
08-07-2003, 03:53 AM
We are going out to see my son the weekend of Sept 6th..they have a white coat ceremony for them..marking the beginning of their medical careers and are prsented with their white coats. It's a big thing..I just hope I can make it! Dh can get off work for the weekend too.

Dog had a pretty good day today!

I got 7 mesquito bites on my face walking outside lastnight and getting the veggies from the garden! Yuck!

Ally0306
08-07-2003, 08:45 PM
I had to go get my aunt from the hospital last weekend and brought her home and got her set up. Stayed over and through the next day. Drove home to find that my kids had a beer party while I was gone. Was so mad I kicked them out on the spot. Made them pack up their clothes. So now they are each with a friend. And they are already back every day,eating and showering here. Am not sure what this accomplished but I needed to make a point.
I lost 5 lbs low carbing but like Candice, a lot of it was stress. Now that things are calm, I am hungry and am eating more....

Joanne D
08-07-2003, 09:15 PM
Ally- You will out live the boys!There were times I used to wonder if I would survive the stress of mine. But you do. This too will pass. Don't let it drive you to eat.
I hope things get easy for you.
I lost a pound this week. Woopee!! I thought it would be more.
What the heck better than gaining.
Going to my daughters for the weekend. Hope I don't gain it back. Joanne

Candicej
08-08-2003, 12:42 AM
Good news is that the dog had another good day :)and was up and around alot on her own and is eating some dry food too that she could not chew before due to the stroke. She is still not back to normal but pretty close for an old dog!:)

Now the bad news is my balck 10 yr old cat is sick. :(He quit eating and drinking Yesterday and is very lethargic, he just saw the vet last Friday for his shots. I called the emergency animal clinic and they said to keep and eye on him over night and get him to the doc in the morning for tests..sounds like kidney failure they said! I can't take this..I was so busy with the dog that I did not pick up on my kitty being sick! He is my garden helper too..following me everywhere and talks to me to keep me company! So I will be up all night with the cat:eek: and then off to the vet in the morning..so no sleep for me! My body won't take this pace Woe is me again! :stars:

MemeToo
08-08-2003, 02:28 AM
Goodness...between the sick pets and the bad kids sounds like you guys have been busy! Ally... sounds like those guys of yours just won't ever learn! Good news about the dog, Candice, but sorry about your cat...hope he's ok. Congratulations on the pound lost, Joanne!

Ross started to public school Monday ... he did ok at school but as soon as he got in the car he started crying and didn't stop until bedtime. Bless his heart. He did the same thing again Tuesday night. I went over there Tuesday night and he was just sobbing. He was in the tub and I heard him before I even got up on the porch. He sounded so pitiful. He went to bed as soon as he got out of the tub at 7 and and he was asleep as soon as his little head hit the pillow ... just that quick ... and he didn't wake up for 11 hours. That's just not normal!!! He says the new school makes him tired. Paula says he's been better the last two days when she picked him up. He didn't cry. He had a bad time when she dropped him off yesterday but his teacher said he got ok after she left and had a pretty good day. His teacher is her best friend. They've been best friends since 4th grade. She practically grew up in our home...she calls me Mama #2 and she lives right across the street from Paula. She has a son that is just a year older than Ross and they play together. That's the only reason Paula put him in public school this year because he could have her for a teacher. I just hope he can adjust. He will be 7 next week ... big BD party Saturday night. Paula is in a Wedding this weekend so Ross and Jenna are spending tomorrow night with us.

Well... I went to Nashville to the Orthopedic Dr. today about my ankle and foot. He said it was osteoarthritis. He said it was plain to see in the Xray and he didn't understand why the other Dr. I was going to didn't see it before. He said he could plainly see wearing away of the bone and spurs beginning to form that was causing the pain and there wasn't anything that could be done about it except medicine like celebrex and vioxx (which I can't take). He said, "I'm really sorry, I know it's painful, but there isn't anything that can be done about it!" Sure am glad I didn't let the other Dr. do surgery. He said that was a thing of the past and nobody did that anymore. Said he was surprised Dr. Chapman even suggested it because it didn't work...all it did was cause your ankle to be numb and not work right. Guess I'll just be living in pain the rest of my life. I don't know if I can take this the rest of my life. :cry:

Candicej
08-08-2003, 02:56 PM
:( I just got back from an out of town vet...had to run the cat there cause our vet was too busy to
see him and on his way out of town so he sent me Town & Country. It was kidney
and liver failure and they did not have much hope for him and said it would be
between 500 and 1000 to treat him so I called DH and he said put him down so we
did and I stayed with him and told him what a good kitty he was and I would miss
him and that I was so sorry he got sick. I am sitting her typing through the tears. :cry:
Kinda ironic he would go before Sandy cause I was telling him for the past three
weeks he was gonna miss her..he and Sandy did everything together. They told me
also that our vet should have picked up on the enlarged kidneys last Friday :mad: and
maybe treatrment would have saved him then but it was too late today. .......and we
would be out more money so I guess this is best. We just burried him under the
plum trees with his friend Cali of many years ago. He will be missed, such a good
cat and the only one that came whenever I called him.

Mima
08-08-2003, 06:23 PM
Oh Candice -I'm sorry about your cat.And I'm glad the dogb is better!And your son is in medical school-how proud you must be, I just got back from working 4 days-stomache not too bad this time but I had two "accidents"-no details!!!!Glad your med is working Joanne-hi everyone. Mima

Ally0306
08-08-2003, 08:51 PM
Oh Candice I am so sorry for you. You have been through so much with your animals lately. Your post made me cry too. Animals are just so precious.

Candicej
08-09-2003, 03:18 AM
Thanks for understanding :cry:and the kind kind words...I'm still pretty sad and will miss him terribly....It was just so sudden and they say that kidney failure in animals happens that way.

No appetite........and a headache from the stress I think.

Mima
08-09-2003, 07:58 AM
Good morning-Joanne, I saw your sister's posts in TOPS. Hope you are feeling better, Candice. Our dog Cassidy is 10-we know he won't be around forever-but when it happens, it's so sad. You are so used to seeing the animal every day. I'm glad I will only have to work 2 more days. It has been raining every day around here. Bye for now Mima

Mima
08-10-2003, 07:33 AM
I can't believe it-I tried to e-mail pictures and I have no way to get to my floppy disc-I have a place to put it but it doesn't ask for the floppy. I e-mailed Dell!!!Frustrating. Went to the new camper last night-can't get it yet because thay don't have the title. But I'm working anyways and we are going to Montreal on the 25th. Raining!!!!Bye for now. Mima

Ally0306
08-10-2003, 03:57 PM
It is supposed to rain all day....flood warnings etc. And it is sunny hot and humid. Wierd.
I think my Fiberful finally kicked in, so maybe I will lose a few more pounds :dizzy:

Joanne D
08-10-2003, 07:46 PM
I had a great time at my daughters. I always do. My G/son brought a couple guys home from the ship . They are really nice guys. My daughter is a second mama to them.
Mima- My sister is a special person. She and I are closer than any of the other sisters we have. No matter what ,we seem to understand what the other is going through. We are always there for each other if we can be.
Candice- I am so sorry about your cat. Glad that your dog is doing better. Go to the pound and get yourself another cat. If I ever get to the point that I want another pet,that is where I will go to get it. I doubt at this time that is likely to happen.
Ally- Have you let the boys come home yet? They need a job ,maybe.
Meme- I hope the G/son is able to stay in the school without any problems. Bless your heart there is a star in heaven with your name on it.
Hello Anagram, Happy

Candicej
08-11-2003, 07:10 AM
Got some yard work done yesterday and missed my little helper, gonna take time to get used to not seeing him around I know.

I'm down a few more pounds.....My appetite will pick up soon I''m sure.



The dog is responding to the remadol..that is a good thing!


Joanne..all of our pets have come to us...just showed up here. I have 3 more cats right now but he was one of my favorites:) My liittel garden helper I called him. I just feel so bad that I did not know he was sick.

anagram
08-11-2003, 07:19 AM
Good morning. Was really bad diet wise over the weekend as we went to dd's for the three year old's birthday party. DS/DDIL there Sat eve as well.

DM continues to decline rapidly; I've been checking in as time permits but not feeling much like posting at the moment.

Just trying to remind myself that calories I might take in are not going to help dm recover so it's not a valid reason for losing all control. Off to pool again today - got three sessions in last week.

Ally0306
08-11-2003, 07:55 PM
The boys are not home yet, but their situations are temporary and I suspect they will end up home one of these days. They are here everyday to shower, eat. They seem thrilled to be "free" and they look like they have lost a pound or two. I, on the other hand, bought the food they liked and can't stop nibbling at it.
Have a gyno appt tomorrow and have to get on the scale. Why can't they just take my word for it...you know I will weigh more there....:(

Joanne D
08-11-2003, 07:58 PM
Anagram- I think we all have a tendency to eat wrong or too much when we are stressed. I ate wrong and too much this weekend. I was to my daughters for her birthday. There was just too much good food there. My son-in-law cooked pork on the grill. Ofcourse there was cake and ice cream. That is where I made a pig of myself. I never have those things at home because I would eat it all.
Gosh Candice I wish I had to worry about being down a few pounds. I keep trying though.
Ally- We have been getting a lot of rain here in west central Florida. I welcome it. The poor people who live in low lands and on the rivers don't though.
Hello Mima- My sister has been a busy bee.. I think she has some great ideas.
Hello Happy,Meme,
Bye......Joanne

Mima
08-12-2003, 07:18 AM
Back from work-only had a day's work this time and I drove home in torrential rain!!!!Eleni has a great idea Joanne-it will be fun. Anagram-you are a party girl. That's the hardest time to diet. I was not good yesterday-but I have 3 days to weigh in. Work time is the hardest. All of us there with stomache problems seem to get sick-actually, I wasn't too bad this time -I only worked 5 days. Enjoy Meme. My grandaughter is back in school-8th grade. She loved the cruise=went snorkeling and had her hair braided. Bye for now. hi all. Mima

MemeToo
08-12-2003, 01:28 PM
Enjoy what? I'm in too much pain to enjoy anything! Was up all night again last night with my ankle hurting!

Mima
08-13-2003, 07:23 AM
Sorry, Meme-pain is pretty immobilizing. HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. hI EVERYONE-BEEN UP SINCE 4!!!mIMA

Joanne D
08-13-2003, 10:24 AM
Mima- Up since 4 ? I hope you are not unwell. It has been a hard week to stay on program. I have not been able to get it together this week.
Meme- I hope you are feeling better soon. Pain can put us down faster than anything.
Happy-Where are you? You must be off having a good time somewhere.
Anagram-Hope you are well. It has just been too hot to get out and walk even in the evening. This is the time of the year that I have had enough and am waiting for cool weather.
Ally- Throw out the boys snacks or send them off with them. I should talk. My hubby is forever bringing home the snacks. I lost him at Walmart yesterday and he came walking out with 3 bags of cookies. Good thing I don't really like those kind.I am more the salty kind. Bread is also my downfall.
Hello Candice
Got to be good today. If God smiles on me I might turtle tomorrow. I will most likely have a gain...I just won't look at the scale this week. That bad!
Bye...Joanne

Happy Canuk
08-13-2003, 07:46 PM
Hi Joanne, I am here. Just been busy. Had to go to Red Deer on Friday (100 miles each way) and then to a family reunion on Sunday ( an hour drive each way). Monday, I was so tired and sore and achey, I was just plain useless. Yesterday, I woke up feeling sick to my stomach, but that passed by lunchtime. Today, I am feeling a LOT better. Joanne, I am glad that you are FINALLY getting some rain down there. Must be nice for you.

My girlfriend is here from Chicago, and I will be visiting with her tonight. I haven't seen her for 3 years, so I am so looking forward to seeing her. We have been friends for 50 years (boy that does sound old doesn't it:lol: ).

Meme - I am so sorry that your ankle is not doing well. Arthritis is just a real pain:dizzy: Hope you are able to rest, although it goes against your nature.

Mima - I hope you have a wonderful time in Montreal. It is a great city to visit.

Candice - Congrats to your son!! He has a long road ahead of him. Sorry about your little kitty. I know you will miss your helper.

Ally - The boys will be ok. They just think they need some space, so enjoy it while you can. They will be back soon enough, because they KNOW where they are best off. The have a roof over their heads, and food so they won't stay away long. Just stop buying what they like and let them have more responsibility - like buying their own snacks and looking after themselves.

Anagram - I know that these are again, trying times for you. I wish you some peace.

Hope you are all doing ok and keeping well. It is hot here again today.

Also, please watch out for the Blaster worm. It is wreaking havoc all over the place.

Ally0306
08-13-2003, 09:00 PM
Took my son to Radio Shack and got a cellphone so I will know how to reach him. He is going from one friend's house to another next week. He is a smarty...doesn't want to spend his own money. I think he will be the first one home. The other son has a cell phone already and I just pay for the minutes...then he never has the phone turned on. He is now going to actually pay rent at a crappy apt with a 20 year old guy. Hopefully he pays by the week...he will be home as soon as he has to buy his own new clothes.....
Weighed 3lbs more this year than I did in August last year. Surprised me. Thought I weighed ten pounds more. How come I FEEL fatter? They told me I am not producing enough progesterone so my period drags on too long. I am going to use the cream I bought....

Candicej
08-14-2003, 01:44 AM
Well still not much of an appetite and I have 30 pts banked this week and start a new week today! That should drop a pound.......

The fish is I gonner I think..not doing well at all...What is this with my animals all of a sudden.............

I need sleep!:eek:

Our new mattess comes Thursday!:D

Mima
08-14-2003, 07:32 AM
Candice-you are definitely an animal lover!!!I am going to post a gain this week!!!Working threw me off-I am having so much fun getting stuff ready for the travel trailer. Don't have to buy too much-course I ahve given everything away 3 times already-like can openers, toasters-I will look at yard sales but otherwise we will bring ours with us cuz we ahve really nice ones-like a 100$ coffee pot my son gave us for Christmas and a 4 slice toaster. But the I remembered Brad's mom's house will be emptied so maybe there will be extra stuff!!!It's small change. Going to chiro today and then .....auntie thinks it's too hot to walk. Son is going to install my floppy. And I will cook for him. Got some sleep last night.Hope you feel better Meme. Bye Mima

MemeToo
08-14-2003, 02:11 PM
NOT BETTER ... UP ALL NIGHT AGAIN ... IN PAIN ... WANNA PUNCH OUT SOME DOCTORS!!!!!!!

Joanne D
08-14-2003, 09:03 PM
Meme- Give them a punch for me...I hope you are better soon.
Joanne

Candicej
08-15-2003, 02:03 AM
Apunch for me too meme!!!! I think I see some clevage between those gloves;)

The fish died today and the tank is all cleaned up and packed away! The dog ahd a bad day today too so we are lookng at putting her down again..poor thing..wish she would just pass in her sleep!

Our mattress came today and there is a flaw in the box spring so they had to order a new one, gotta wait another week before I can get things put back!

Mima..you are like tha energizer battery..you just keep going and going and going!;)

Happy Canuk
08-15-2003, 02:20 AM
Candice, sorry you are having such a bad time. Hope things turn around for you soon. If you are saving 30 points in a week, are you sure you are eating enough to be healthy. You should have at least 1200 calories. If you are not, you could start losing your hair and have othe problems going on. Losing weight may be important, but maintaining your health is more important.

Meme - give 'em a good slug! I guess the ankle ISN'T feeling better yet?

Hi Mima, Joanne, Ally and Anagram.

Well tomorrow, I am off to Red Deer to get the Holter Moniter on for 24 hours. Going to the hospital at 9:30 for it, so will be leaving here at 6:00 a.m.; After that, I am going to see the Dr., and hopefully will get into the chiro. Then I am going to visit a couple of friends and then meeting my cousin and her husband and my husband and I will go out for dinner. Then we will stay with them Friday night and I will go to the hospital on Saturday to get the monitor off. Then, I am going to the Farmer's market and then home. By that time I shall be in need of rest. On Sunday morning, my son is coming over before he heads to work in Ft. McMurray and then my cousin and her hubby are coming to stay at our house on Sunday night. Then on Monday, it is back to Red Deer, once more. WISH ME LUCK BECAUSE I THINK I AM GOING TO NEED IT. I AM TIRED JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS.

MemeToo
08-15-2003, 03:43 AM
Candice...did that turn you on??? HAHAHA Not much cleavage ... I had on a gypsy skirt and a stretchy top ... just the way I was sitting I guess. Ross got those Hulk hands for his BD and wanted Meme to have her picture made with them on! He told me to look mean! :p

I've figured out what's wrong with my ankle ... unfortunately. The last Dr. (quack) I went to should have picked up on all the symptoms and figured this out but I guess he was too busy trying to keep to his schedule!!! He didn't even have me stand up!!! Just took a quick look at a year old Xray and another quick look at my ankle and said it was Osteoarthritis. He didn't even do a new Xray for comparison! Some Doctor! It's not osteo at all! I may have osteo in the TOP of my foot but what's going on in the ankle is not osteo... it's rheumatoid. You've seen people who have fingers that have drawn to the side ... their hands look deformed? Well the toes on the outside of my foot have been burning like crazy. When I stand at the sink or stand and iron it almost feels like they are doubled under my foot and I'm standing on them. I just today figured out what was going on. They are drawing. It is my right foot and the toes are drawing to the left pulling everything with them and they are putting a tremendous strain on the bones on the right side on my foot and on my ankle. And they are drawing at a really fast pace, too. This is very scary!

Mima
08-15-2003, 08:27 AM
What about some homeopathic treatments like acupuncture or I can't think of the name of it where you have points on your foot that they massage for certain areas-Hope you feel better soon. Candice-this too will pass!!!It's hard to lose animals-they become part of your life/ Went for a walk with Auntie after the chiro but should have come home to rest because back hurts. But I have been good up to now. I hjave the opening for a really nice closet to be finished next week -and I have a nice drawer under the stove, And stairway to be worked on today. It's great when people show up to work-By this fall, we will have most of our projects done.The yard will have to wait til next year-that's when I will need Candice!!!!!!Hope everything goes well, Anne. Hi Joanne, Ally, Anagram and all!!!Mima

Ally0306
08-15-2003, 11:34 AM
Did anyone else lose power???? I realized that I am TV dependent. Tried to read by flashlight and finally went to bed. Missed the Amazing Race......

MemeToo
08-15-2003, 05:12 PM
Jenna Hulk

Mima
08-16-2003, 08:30 AM
Adorable Meme!-MA didn't lose power-I hate when that happens-all you can do is go to bed. We lose it in the winter when it's worse because you freeze. Still having fun getting ready to camp-bought wine glasses at the dollar store-broke 2-then I came home and found 6 in the cupboard. Went to TOPS-only up a quarter of a pound-it's the walking that saves me. I have to be good this week. Gonna do the meeting next Friday because the leader is out. More construction going on-guy is coming today to put a door in the hall downstairs.We have 2 projects going at the same time-someday we will have to do a lot of painting -and polyeurethaning-but not today!!!6 more days til I'm 65. We are going to pick out my present tomorrow. I'm going to get another cross with athicker chain to replace the one I lost-just not as fancy!!Then maybe the other one will turn up. Ha!Bye for now Mima

Joanne D
08-16-2003, 11:17 AM
Meme-What a cute little girl! Sometimes I long to have small ones around again. The two G/children I have are pretty much grown.
Mima, I hate losing thing too. I went walking yesterday and looked down and found that I lost a little gold ring with a cameo. I just said to myself that the lady who gave it to me dropped down from heaven and took it back. After walking two miles I feel there is little chance of finding it. We searched the house but no luck. My hands swell when I walk so I wasn't concerned that it would come off. But I guess I will just have to be more careful.
I lost 1 1/4 this week and believe me I don't know how.
I hope everybody has a good weekend......Joanne

MemeToo
08-16-2003, 11:57 AM
Joanne ... that was SUPPOSED to be her 'mean' look'!!! Guess it's kind of hard for a 4 yr. old Barbie to look mean! :p

Ally0306
08-16-2003, 02:02 PM
Meme....Cute picture. I want a little girl to dress up as a fairy princess. I suppose I could rent one. :dizzy:
I was just in the grocery store when the lightening cracked and the lights flickered and it poured. Made me remember to get another flashlight. Don't know if I can go another nite without TV. Hope those poor people in Detroit get their elec back.
Hate this humid weather. Makes me want to eat fattening foods.

Mima
08-16-2003, 03:04 PM
You are going to be proud of me-I took my computer apart-tired of waiting for son-thje floppy was hitched up so I called Dell-he had me unplug/plug something and put the computer back to gether and then do something else and it works. So I'm back in business. Bye for now Mima

MemeToo
08-16-2003, 06:52 PM
Ally...how much would you pay to rent these two? There have been times I would have paid you! :lol:

Candicej
08-17-2003, 02:42 AM
Meme..they are so pretty just like their grandma!!!!!!:D :encore: :D

Had to put the dog in the basement shower last night to get the pee off of her skin....for two days she layed in it..I couldn't get her up and now today she is fine...but it is too much work and DH says it is time so we will see.......(I'm just not physically able to be lifting her). :yikes:

Watered the flowers today so hot and humid and dry everything was shriveling up!

Ally I have a little battery powerd TV for when the power goes off!

Happy.. I was not intentioanly eating less..my appetite has been down with all this stuff going on. I am really trying to eat my 23 pts and 25 if I am really active. I am really anxious :hyper: right now and that burns calories too. YOu think I would be a skinny minnie! NOT :no:

Mima
08-17-2003, 07:35 AM
Beautiful girls!!!I hope you get some relief soon, Candice. Too much going on here right now and it's only stuff we caused. And now I'm planning a retirement party for Brad-coffee and dessert and I'm concerned about how much of the house will be done-Oh well, they have been here before when it wasn't even sided. It's fun planning it!!!!And surprising him although I may tell him his sister is coming over for cake. And then 40 other people show up!Ha! It's going to be less hot today. The church's air conditioning broke down so another hot service. Bye for now Mima