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Rosalie
07-21-2003, 01:19 AM
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This is the
SUGAR BUSTERS WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD where all of you who are
following this WOE, or are thinking about doing so, are welcome to come join in and be a
part of our wonderful group.

Other than finding support and friendship on this board, we also try to do something
during the the week to add a little difference to our board.

MONDAY-MOTIVIATIONAL MONDAY
TUESDAY-TUESDAYS TIPS & FACTS & CHAT AT 9:15PM
EST
WEDNESDAY-WEIGH-IN WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY-THURSDAY RECIPE DAY
FRIDAY-FRIDAY FUNNIES


Please take some time to check out our extensive recipe boards. Our RECIPE
BOARDS can be located at the link below:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=89

Look for our QUARTERLY RECIPE BOARDS to post your favorite recipes and to see
the most recently posted recipes. Recipes from the quarterly boards will be archived in
proper categories at some point.


We have SEVEN INFORMATIVE BOARDS!!!! Please take a few minutes to visit
them! New information is continually being posted, so please make sure you visit them
often!!! The boards are listed below as well as the link that will take you to the boards:

THE RECOMMENDED READING BOARD
THE TOOLS & TIPS BOARD
THE FOOD INFORMATION BOARD
MOTIVATIONAL & INSPIRING THOUGHTS BOARD
MY FAVORITE SB LEGAL FOODS
SB 2002 BIO BOARD
SB 2001/2002 PHOTO ALBUM BOARD

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=87

We also have a SB WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD that you can log your daily/weekly
exercises on which is located on our weekly support board:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=29565

Then there's our latest addition to the SB BOARDS which is called OFF THE EATEN
PATH This board is for everything NOT related to SB. You can use this board to post
questions or comments on just about anything (okay, within reason). A book you
recommend, a cleaning tip, a great website deal, etc. etc. Here's the link:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=90


NEWBIES! (aka new members) If you would like to REPLY to any of our threads,
please hit POST REPLY not NEW THREAD, then type
your message in and hit SUBMIT REPLY. If you need to edit your reply, just
click on edit located in the body of your post and make changes as you need to, then hit
SUBMIT NOW.


WELCOME! :D

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Rosalie
07-21-2003, 01:37 AM
GOOD MONDAY MORNING EVERYONE!

Here's this weeks
MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY there's 2 of them to read today:


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GO TO IT


You think you need this and you think you need that,
but you are wrong. You already have it. You already
have it and the only thing you must do is to make use
of it. It is there for you to discover, there for you to
realize.Whatever you may dream or desire, there is a
path that will lead you to it. The first step on that path
is right in front of you this very moment. Thoughts of
lack and limitation serve only to hide the truth of
abundance that is all around you. Look past those
limiting thoughts and see the reality of magnificent
possibilities.

To fulfill those possibilities, to experience your own
unique flavor of abundance, takes effort, integrity and
persistence. Yet all these things you already have, and
they're waiting to be put to use.

What you think you need, what you truly desire, is
already there. Have the courage and the confidence to
go to it.

-- Ralph Marston
*******************

POSITIVE VISION


When the big positive things are compelling enough, you'll hardly notice the little negative things.
When your focus is on accomplishing what is truly meaningful and significant, then the everyday distractions and annoyances become quite insignificant by comparison.

In every moment, your focus is on one thing or another. When you can stay focused on the good and positive things that mean the most to you, the little annoyances have no way to bring you down.

Why waste your time and energy worrying and fretting about things that really don't matter that much? Instead, direct your focus toward creating value for yourself, for those around you and for the world in which you live.

Sure, you'll need to take care of the little annoying problems and distractions as they come along. And that will go much more smoothly, without anger, resentment, worry or frustration, when your primary focus is on the big picture.

Stop letting all the little things bring you down. Focus instead on the best you can imagine, and let that positive vision pull you forward.

-- Ralph Marston

************************

Have a wonderful day, and a fabulous week!!!!!

Debbie
194/1??/129
SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

Rosalie
07-21-2003, 01:43 AM
THIS WEEKS CHALLENGES

The usual challenges of DRINKING YOUR WATER and drinking AT LEAST 64 OUNCES is ongoing, as is getting in 3 DAYS OF EXERCISE and posting it on the WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD

THIS WEEKS NEW CHALLENGE:

Last week we were posting what we had for breakfast. How about this week posting at least one day (or more if you wish) what you had for lunch. :chef: :chicken: :cbg: :hun:

Rosalie
07-21-2003, 01:54 AM
This was posted by ANGEHALEY on another thread. Thought I would transfer it over here so y'all would see it.


Hello All!!!!
I am a new sb'er and have a few questions....
My favorite "treat" is diet Root Beer... but it has Aspertame in it... what is the deal with Aspertame?? Is it legal and just not preferred or is it a NO NO???

Also, I am in Dallas Tx... does anyone have any suggestions on where to shop besides Whole Foods for sgww breads and the such???

My biggest question is this... Can you have too much fruit in a day?? I like to have fruit for bk (1/2 grapefruit & a peach, or an all fruit fresh smoothie) and then I eat fruit for "snacks"..... Am I doing the wrong thing??? Also, I read somewhere... I think in the sb book, newest ed that to loose weight you should only have two slices of bread in a day.... Is that the same for ww pasta etc....
I need some suggestions for meals.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to all in advance for you responses!!!!
Ange

ok guys... I have read over and over "how to post messages..." but as you can see...... I am still LOST..... Meant to post this on the main board.... can anyone help?????

Toni48
07-21-2003, 09:01 AM
Good morning Rosalie. I guess I'm a real early bird but have to get up early to get DH off to work. I'm going to let some else answer the question on the aspertame. The only thing I do know is that it can bring on sugar cravings. I thought I read in the new book and have been doing this to only drink clear or "white" sodas because of the acid in them. Thats what I've been doing. And Angehaley you can only have two fruits a day and two to three starchy carbs. Which include pasta, rice, bread, etc. Please don't get discouraged its just confusing at first. Once you get the hang of it, it kind of starts making sense.....LOL.... Well I had to skip lunch yeasterday but today I'm having tuna salad on a bed of lettuce and a peach for lunch. I tried last night a new recipe I got off a different board for an upside down pizza casserole last night and my DH and I both really liked it. I worked all day yesterday getting things tagged for a yard sale I'm having next Sat. at a friends house. What an awful job that was. I hate doing things like that. I marked them really cheap so I don't have to come home with a big bunch of stuff. Sorry this came out so long.....

beachfan37
07-21-2003, 09:03 AM
Hi all. I'm back from my vacation...rested and happy. We had a great time and the place where we stayed was very restful. Porch swings, music by the pool etc. Just a wonderful time. I didn' stay OP all the time but most of the time and with all the walking on the beach and swimming, I still lost. Glad to be back and talking to my SB buddies.

Below is my motivational thoughts for this Motivational Monday! I need this since I have to go back to work today ;)

Improve Your Attitude

"Whether you think you can or you
think you can't....you are right -"

- Henery Ford - pg.7

Find ways to become more optimistic. The subconscious mind is an amazing tool, learn how to use it. It works hard behind the scenes to make sure our perceived reality comes true. If we constantly see things in a negative or pessimistic light, the subconscious excepts that as reality and goes about making our low expectations come true. Likewise, if we always expect things to work out or to be successful, the subconscious will work just as hard controlling our actions behind the scenes, to make those positive expectations come true.

A poor attitude or low expectations is just a bad habit. Change the habit. The first step is accepting the fact that you want to make a change. Put A little determination behind it. Refuse to allow negative thought to dwell in your conscious mind. Replace negative thought with a Positive Motivational Quote. Find one that is appropriate and preferably short enough to easily memorize. Next, the instant you feel a negative thought enter you mind, recite the quote to yourself. You’ll be amazed how well this works. Finally, make an extra effort to find good and hope in ever situation. If you aren’t looking for it you definitely won’t find it.

Anna
222/177/140

Toni48
07-21-2003, 09:41 AM
Skillet upside-down Pizza

10 1/2" skillet or casserole dish

1/2 pound sausage
1 medium onion, diced
1 medium pepper, diced

Sprinkle a little salt in iron skillet and cook above ingredients breaking up
sausage, 5 minutes. Add 1 pound ground round. Cook til no longer pink.
Remove from heat,(I drained mine in the colander then put back into skillet,
add 1/2 tsp garlic powder, 1 tsp basil and 1 1/2 cups of your favorite tomato
pasta sauce. Sprinkle with 1 1/2 cups mozzarella cheese.

Crust:

2 large eggs
1 cup milk
1 tbsp oil
1/4 tsp salt
1 1/4 c ww flour

mix all and pour over meat and cheese in skillet. Sprinle with 1/4 cup
shredded Parmesan cheese. Bake 400 degrees for 25 minutes. (let set before
cutting about 5-10 minutes) Makes 6 nice size servings.

CountryMom4Him
07-21-2003, 10:03 AM
Thanks for getting the board up this morning Rosalie.

Toni...the upside down pizza sounds yummy.

The kids are playing instead of doing school. I can tell this morning is going to be a challenge. :) My oldest is visiting so that's a treat. It's been a while since he was at home. I'm hoping to walk this evening and get back into a routine. It's so hard once you get out.

Hope everyone has a super week.

Love,
Crystle

SEMO
07-21-2003, 10:26 AM
Good Morning, I received my book and read it over the weekend, now I have questions. First, I really didn't find guidelines in the book, I'm sort of the type that would like to have things spelled out in some guideline. Is this correct, two fruits per day (eaten before meals or two hrs after meals) 2/3 serv of whole grain bread or pasta. One plate servings, no seconds on anything. Only concern with sugar is added sugar and nothing more than 3 grams per serving. Help me folks, I'm just not getting it yet. Is there a chapter that SPELLS this out that I need to re-read? I have to admit that I was pretty sleepy while reading and when I finished I thought, this can't be all of it.

Thanks,
~Semo

LadyVatrovia
07-21-2003, 11:39 AM
Hello all. I have a ton of questions, but I'll try to limit myself and not bombard you guys. I am going to buy the shopping book today but I can't afford the SB book and the library is hopeless as it is forever checked out. Aaaaaaaanyway

Am I to do low fat instead of the butter and real mayo as I was doing on Atkins? What's the limit on fake sweeteners? What about Atkins recipes, can I still eat them? I am reading everything I can find.....
Thank you for your help!

SEMO
07-21-2003, 12:20 PM
LadyV, I'm just coming off Atkins too, and I'm scared to death that I'll start gaining. I have this site for you to check out, perhaps it will be helpful to you.

http://groups.msn.com/SugarBustersRecipesandSupport/basicconcept.msnw

edited to add this one- (It's better)

www.prettyimpressivestuff.com/sugarbusters/

Solly
07-21-2003, 12:25 PM
Good Monday Morning.

It was a very busy weekend. Party Saturday all day and night and SUnday we went out on a friend's boat.

Work is so wild that I probably won't be on here much this week.
I have to try to get ready for vacation sometime.

Rosalie, Thanks for starting the boards for us. You are a doll.

Toni, thanks for the recipe. Might try it this week.

Beachfan, glad you had a nice vacation and you are back safe and sound. WTG on losing.

SEMO, you sound like you have it. If you will go to sugarbusters.com and on their support board they have newbie tips. This is tips and the plan in a nutshell. Vey helpful.

Lady Vatrovia, see my post to Semo above for the tips. I'm from Lou too. I use real butter and real mayo. Welcome to our board.

Angehaley. See my post to semo about the tips. I'm with Toni, the aspartame can cause suagr cravings. But once and awhile won't hurt. Starchy carbs are 2-3 daily (ww bread, ww pastas, brown rice, cereal, etc.)

My lunch today is chicken hot wings and an apple.

Jackie

Pancho
07-21-2003, 12:34 PM
THE RESULTS ARE IN.....

I met with the personal trainer this morning for my complimentary sessions, and here are the results on the measurements. My last weight & measurements were taken on 3/12/03, so this is pretty much a 4-month stat:

March July
Weight 145.8/ 126.5
Chest/Bust 39"/ 37"
Waist/Obliques 32.5/ 29.5
Abdominals 36.5/ 35
Hips 38.5/ 35.75
Thighs 20.5/ 20
Calves 13.5/ 13.25
Arms 11.25/ 10.5

So overall, I have lost about 11 inches. For sake of simplicity, they only measured one side both times. But, I can't complain!

I have to take my oldest to swim lessons soon, so not much time, but here go a few replies:

Rosalie: How's the cobbler turn out? Sounds yummy; have you posted the recipe?

Nurse: Sorry to hear about your miscarriages; it is a very tough loss to take. I had a miscarriage between my two girls, and it was really tough on me. I did decide to get serious about getting back into shape, and once I had lost some weight and started toning up, voila...I was pregnant, and did have a healthy pregnancy. Good luck to you!

Gator: Welcome back. I hope your dad is home soon. I did stumble across Rissa's site, and what a wealth of info.

Beachfan: Way to keep the weight off while on vacation!

SEMO: Sounds like you've got it in a nutshell. Just stick to what you know and you'll do fine. I stick to the 3g sugar rule -vs- the new 5g rule.

LadyV: Check out www.prettyimpressivestuff.com if you can't afford to get the book. She has more info than even the Sugarbusters site. The ladies here will also be helpful to you.

Gotta run; the baby is crying!!!

LadyVatrovia
07-21-2003, 04:15 PM
Thank you all so much! This does seem like a very friendly place!
Jack-K I just got back from B&E Salvage Groceries, my favorite place in the world! Thye had a ton of the Mills Whole Wheat products for like $1.00 (flour, pancake mix)....I once bought all the SF Devinchi they had (7) bottles for .89 cents each!! They also had a lot of Triscuits crackers, for $1.50 so I bought a few boxes of them. I always shop there first and then what I can't find there, I go to Krogers. What they have changes all the time as it is a salvage store...its an awesome find!

Teensybean
07-21-2003, 04:43 PM
Good afternoon all-- Didn't have a chance to get on this weekend, but was still OP. Those darn cramps had me down a couple of days, but am okay now. Don't get them too often, Thank God!!

Brant had a Bull Bash on Saturday night, so went over there after our usual Saturday Pot Luck. Wasn't really that good. I think it was just too hot. Those poor bulls were out in 100 degree weather all day. They would start out bucking, and then just stop and rest. They were too pooped to do much. But he got bucked off anyway!!

I didn't take cobbler, because Dh got into it before Saturday. But took a Pizza Quiche instead. Had the recipe from my PP days, but used FF milk instead of cream and egg beaters instead of eggs. Still had quite a bit of fat, but not as bad as it could have been.


Rosalie-- A big thanks for starting our board this morning. Don't know what we all would do without it!!

Beach-- Glad you had a great time and are all rested up and happy!! Way to go on the loss, that is hard to do on vacation, whoo hoo!!

Toni-- That sounds fantastic!! I have printed this one off to use this week! Thanks.

Country-- Enjoy your visit with your oldest son. I sure wish I got to see my boys more often. One is on a processing boat in Alaska, and haven't seen him since Dec. 2002, and the other is fairly close, but summer time is his rodeoing time so his weekend are always filled up with traveling and bullriding.

Semo-- Welcome to SB! Sounds like you got it. There really isn't much to the book. And I guess there really doesn't have to be, it works!!

Lady-- Yes, you do need to watch your fat now. Anytime you start increasing the carbs, you need to cut the fat! But I think butter is still prefered over margarine. Because of the partially hydrogenated oils. I still use alot of my PP recipes, I just SB them. I use FF milk, egg beaters, and 100% WW flour, or what ever else I need to, to make them legal. I don't know of a limit on the sweetners, I just use as little as possible. I use Splenda for now. Most of these gals use an Agave Nectar. I haven't ordered any yet, but I am planning on it. Good luck to you, and this really is a great WOE.

Jack-k-- If we don't hear much from you, have a great time on your vacation!! We will miss you.

Pancho-- FANTASTIC....WOW.....AWESOME!!! That is alot of inches in four months. Congratulations!!

CountryMom4Him
07-21-2003, 05:36 PM
SEMO...If I want seconds of something I have it. I use real mayo and regular salad dressings. I find the low fat go up in sugar and down in flavor. So since I don't over do I just use the full fat ones and enjoy. As for fruit I eat it when I want it. I know there is something about eating it by itself to aid digestion but I don't worry about that stuff.

Lady.... the great thing about Adkins recipes is that yes we can eat em too....LOL If it's low carb it's gonna be low sugar. I know others watch their fats better than I do but I'm getting there. :) Your salvage store sounds neat. I'd love to find that syrup for 89 cents. The other day I found it at Krogers for the first time and it was over 4 dollars a bottle. Needless to say it's still at Krogers.

Jack-K....you mean they are gonna make you work before your vacation...that is just wrong..LOL Don't work to hard and make time for yourself.

Teensy....so glad you are feeling better. Sorry your son got bucked off. I think I would go crazy if one of my boys wanted to ride the bulls or broncos. Of course their dad would love it. The barrels keep my heart racing enough.

Pancho....you are doing so great. How tall are you? I'm nosey like that. *smile*

Well I have some homemade soup on the stove...the tomatoes all rippened at the same time...so I'd better get and tend to it before I start their dinner.

Love and hugs,
Crystle

Solly
07-21-2003, 05:46 PM
Just a quickie..

Pancho, 11" is awesome. I know you must be seeing a big difference in your clothes. Keep up the good work.

Lady Vatrovia, where is the B & E Salvage located??

Teensy, glad you are feeling better now. The trials of being a woman! Guess those bulls get hot too.

Country, enjoy your soup. You must be such a good cook. I'm jealous.

Jackie

LadyVatrovia
07-21-2003, 06:25 PM
Jack-K There are two of them here..on is very small on Shepherdvilles Rd. The big one...the one I go to is on Preston across from Southern High School about a mile up from Outer Loop going towards the Gene Snyder Freeway! Stop by and see me sometime at work! I'm the Salon Manager at the newest PetSmart where Service Merchandise used to be.....by the Kroger before you get to Jefferson Mall.......theres a Red Lobster right in front of it on Outer Loop....give me a call there to if you can, Just ask for "Cloud" or, the Salon Manager. :)

Rosalie
07-21-2003, 06:34 PM
Hi Everyone

Hope y'all had a good weekend. I was out lawn-bowling yesterday afternoon but got rained out after the first game. Should be going again this evening but have decided instead to go and see my gd 's soccer game. I feel bad that I never get to see any of her games - she's the only gd - but do get to see some of the boys games. She just happens to have her games on a Monday when I usually have other things to do. Same thing happened last year so thought I would try to take in a couple of her games this year. I played badminton this afternoon so have had some exercise to-day.

My lunch to-day ws leftover grilled chicken leg with cole slaw salad and cucumber and 7 oz 1% milk with instant coffee. Had a plum before the meal. Just had that at 3.00 p.m. as I didn't have time for lunch before badminton. Not cooking dinner tonite - decided to have leftover chili from the freezer and a salad.

Toni That pizza casserole sounds interesting. I saw the recipe on the other board and had thought about trying it. Thanks for posting the recipe.

Beachfan - Welcome back. Sounds like you had a good vacation. That's great that you were able to lose while away. All the walking and swimming must have helped. I liked the quote under Improve your Attitude - Whether you think you can or think you can't......you are right - I think that is so true.

CountryMom - Hope you have a good visit with your son.

Semo - Welcome to SB. The rule about eating fruits before/after meals is flexible. Some people may get indigestion if they eat fruit with a meal because it stays in the stomach too long before getting digested, but if it doesn't bother you then it is o.k. to have it with a meal. Also this rule does not apply to berries. They don't seem to cause problems when eaten with a meal.

LadyVatrovia - I use real butter. I don't use mayo but I do use regular dressings but only in small amounts. You'll find that most of the low fat dressings have sugar added. SB is not low fat but the authors do recommend moderation in the amount of fat consumed. Lean chicken is o.k. but watch the red meat as that has so much saturated fat even when the meat looks lean. Fish is good to eat - even though it has quite a bit of fat it is a 'good fat' that we need. I use 1% milk and reduced fat cream cheese.

Jack-K - Hope you enjoyed the party on the weekend. In case we don't see much of you this week here's wishing you a wonderful vacation.

Pancho - You must be very pleased with those stats. All those inches gone and over nineteen pounds since March. :cp: The cobbler turned out yummy. The recipe was posted by FILLISE and is on the April/May/June 2003 Recipe Board. I used 4 cups of apples and 1 cup of mixed berries and this was a good combination. The first time I tried it I used peaches and that was good too.

Teensybean - Glad the cramps have gone. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Have to go and heat up my dinner. Late lunch and early dinner :).

Marie.

cherylco
07-21-2003, 09:55 PM
Toni
Thanks for the recipe. Going to try it this week.

SEMO & LadyVatrovia
Welcome to the board!

The waiting in eating fruit 2 hours after a meal and an hour before a meal is (according to the book) to prevent you from getting an upset stomach because fruit that sits in your stomach can ferment causing upset. So you want to eat fruit on an empty stomach. I have been doing SB for a year now and still read chapters of the book over and over. It's really not indexed very good so it's hard to find info.

The basic concept of SB is eating low glycemic foods. Read: The Glycemic Index By Rick Mendosa It helps you understand things better. Well it did for me.
Also http://www.prettyimpressivestuff.com/sugarbusters/ is a great site.

Pancho
Way to go on losing all those inches!!

Lunch was actually my breakfast too because I was at the gym from 9 to 11:30 and missed breakfast.
Anyway, ate a turkey and roast beef sandwich with mayo and cheese. Then about 20 minutes later I was still hungry so I ate some AK-Mac stoneground crackers and port wine cheese.

:balloons:

GatorGal
07-21-2003, 11:44 PM
Hi all,
And welcome to all the newbies.
My food today:
Breakfast: 2 soft boiled eggs on 1/2 piece WW toast. 1/4 canteloupe.
Lunch: Openfaced sandwich on 1 piece WW bread sliced thin crosswise and topped with swiss cheese, chicken breast slices, cottage cheese, cooked broccoli and more swiss cheese. This is run under the broiler to melt the cheeses. Pretty good.
Also, 20 cherries.
Dinner: Red snapper cooked with "spanish sauce" (tomatoes, onions, black olives, garlic, and basil)
Green beans with almonds
Green salad with vinagrette and shredded cheese.
1200 calories
Lots of water and herbal tea

My father is still in the hospital and the latest is that they want to put in a pacemaker. We were hoping to avoid any more surgeries. I'm afraid those doctors will kill my DF with all the stuff they want to do.

I walked 2 miles this evening with my DH. I had shin splints last night and could hardly hobble around. So I went to the chiropractor today and hopefully that will fix that problem. I didn't have any problems tonight.

Gotta go. It's late.
Thanks Rosalie for starting the board this week. You rock!!

Teensybean
07-22-2003, 12:42 AM
Just a quick post to enter my lunch for the day--

Lunch--1 slice homemade WW bread, 2 tsp mustard, turkey breast slices, 1 slice 2% cheddar, 1 lettuce leaf, 1/2 c FF Cottage Cheese, 4.7 oz cucumber.

See you all tomorrow!

Toni48
07-22-2003, 09:19 AM
Good morning everyone. Can't believe I'm going to really make it a week on SB. It really is one day at a time for me. I made a crab quiche last night for dinner that I'd found the recipe either here or somewhere. It was good and served it with a big salad and fresh steamed broccli. I don't think DH liked it as much as I did but I told him I'd make him something he really liked tonight. Which is going to be chicken fried rice. We have cherry tomatoes getting ripe and I love them. Just enough to keep me in salad or munching tomatoes. I'm also trying to grow some yellow tomatoes this year too. I've got lots of bell peppers on the vine but want them to get red before I pick them. Well I think I'll have either tuna or chicken salad on pita bread for lunch. Off I go to finish up here and get dressed.....

beachfan37
07-22-2003, 09:27 AM
:cool: Hi All

Thought I would share with you my thoughts about how I adapted SB to work with my body and lifestyle. To me the book never did say this is the diet you should follow. My thoughts on the reason behind that is the authors were not really promoting a diet but a way of life. So, after reading the book I reasearched the glycemic index like Teensy said and went to the same website she recommended. I basically adapted what I eat to how my body would respond and lose weight. If I eat anything high on the glycemic index, I am hungry almost starving about 1-2 hours later. So, I avoid anything high in sugar. The exception is I will eat a little ice cream because the fat balances the sugar. I also kept eating/drinking dairy. I also had to limit the calories. Some people on SB are successful not limiting the calories but I wasn't. I stick to about 1300-1500 calories a day. Here was my meals for yesterday. Keep in mind I have chosen to eat most of my carbs early in the day.

B
1 cup WW Cheerios
1 cup low fat milk
1 piece WW bread
1 tsp butter
L
2 pieces WW bread
2 Tbs peanut butter
strawberries
D
Taco salad made with ground beef, picante sauce, lettuce and a little ranch dressing
S
low fat mozzarella cheese stick

1300 calories

Yesterday I was higher on the carbs because usually I don't have the bread for lunch. I was also lower on the calories because it was just a busy day. Most of the time for lunch I have tuna or chicken or a lean deli meat with a salad but I was in a hurry. I was also short on fruit. By the way I take a multi vitamin and 2 citrucel fiber pills each morning. Typical snacks are cheese sticks, fruit (and yes I am known for eating bananas and still losing weight ). ;)

For the newbies my advice is to go with the highest fiber you can find, the lowest sugar, and eat plenty of protein.

Rosalie, thanks for doing the board this week.

Gator, your meals always make me very hungry and wish I was a better cook!

Anna
222/177/140

Solly
07-22-2003, 10:35 AM
Good Tuesday Morning.

Got up this morning at 5:30 and got 2 miles in. I was trying to incorporate a little jogging into my routine. On the second time, I must have pulled something in my buttocks. I could harly walk. I tried to walk it out, but it hardly got any better. Then I couldn't walk very fast. It still hurts when I get up.

Lady, I hardly ever get to that end of town, but if I do I will look you up.

Rosalie, I'm sure your gd will be eaxcited that you came to watch her game. Kids love that.

Gator, When my dad was in the hospital, they told us it would b years before he needed a pacemaker, then they put one in the next day. Go figure. But he did fine with it. It can help keep the old heart pumpin.

Toni, congrats on making it a week so far. You can do this. Just one day at a time.

Beach fan, Thanks for your insight and tips. I could never eat 5 starches in one day though. I try to limit it to 1 or maybe 2.

Kim, where are you???????

Lunch today will be a hamburger patty with a slice of cheese, maybe some carrots and dip and some strawberries.

GOt to get busy here. I really need to start thinking about laundry and packing before Thursday. Oh well:chin:

Have a great day :sunny:

Jackie

SEMO
07-22-2003, 10:35 AM
Just a quick stop in, work is busy and Friday is our cut off for the end of the month invoicing.
Here's what I had yesterday, feel free to make suggestions.

B - Blue Bunny lite yogurt with two tablespoons reg yogurt (full fat - already had it so I'm using it before I buy more)
S - Same as breakfast
L - 2 pieces of ww bread, slice american cheese, 3 slices roast beef, tomato and tablespoon mayo.
D - Salad, with egg, tomato, grilled chicken and three tablespoons ranch dressing.
About 80 oz of water and no other drinks.

Do you count tomatoes as a fruit?

LadyVatrovia
07-22-2003, 10:55 AM
Yaaaaaaaaaaawn! Just got up! I'm off on Mondays and Tuesdays, so today is my Sunday.... LOL I did good yesterday but those darn Triscuits are dangerous! There hard to stop eating! I probably ate a couple more than I should of. For breakfast I am going to have Uncle Sma cereal...got it at the Salvage store yesterday and I'v never has it before........hope I like it!
Jack-K What part of town do you live in?

cherylco
07-22-2003, 10:59 AM
Like beachfan, I read everything I can on glycemic index and carbs. Some of it is a little contradictory so I'm adjusting all that I read to work for me. Not everything works for all people so it's really important to see what works for you. I do recommend following what the SB book says for at least 2-3 months to give your body a chance to detox from sugar. It's also a great way to train your mind and body from a lifetime of eating poorly.

SEMO
Your eating looks great!
I personally think of tomatoes are a veggie.

Pancho
07-22-2003, 11:35 AM
Good Tuesday Morning, all!

I have to take my daughter to a 2-hour letters class today at the community center, get a dinner certificate for my parents' 39th wedding anniversary, go to Costco and the grocery store. It will be a pretty busy day; hope the girls are rested and ready to go.

I haven't had breakfast yet today, but will probably have some shredded wheat with milk. Yesterday for lunch I had a chicken salad (chicken, celery, green onions, mayo, celery salt) on a whole grain pita bread (1/2). For dinner, I had a Shelton's Pot Pie with a salad (didn't feel like cooking).

Country: I am 5.4 3/4, so I just round it up to 5'5".

Rosalie: Sounds like you stay active. Thanks for the info. on the cobbler recipe; it sounds good. I found a few recipes in my "Get the Sugar Out" book that I am going to try soon. One is for little cheesecake tarts, one is for Almond squares, and I forget what the other one is.

Teensy: Glad you are feeling better. Pizza Quiche sounds yummy!

Gator: Sorry to hear about your dad; how does he feel about all they want to do?

Toni: Congrats on making it through your first week!

Jack: Hope your backend gets better soon.

LadyVic: I've heard a lot of people say that about the Triscuits. I think the actual serving size is supposed to be 3; I always get 6. I always take them out of the box, and put the box away. I find that it is a good little snack if I melt pepper cheese on top of them in the oven for a few minutes, or if I get the Laughing Cow Light (swiss cheese soft wedges) and spread that on them. The key is to get your serving size out and put the box away.

Have a great day everyone!

LadyVatrovia
07-22-2003, 12:30 PM
Okay....I ate some Uncle Sam Cereal...interesting! Certainly eatable...but different...womder if you could make them into some sort of "bar type thingie" to eat....I have a hrad time eating cereal on my work mornings.....
Pancho Very good idea on the triscuits!! Thanks!

Rosalie
07-22-2003, 03:22 PM
Hi Everyone

I just finished lunch and this is what I had to-day: I fried up an onion then added a cut up smoked sausage and fried that up for a few minutes and then added two cups of mixed veggies(green beans, peas, carrots, broccoli and cauliflower). I seasoned it with black pepper and cumin seed. Yum yum. Also had two small plums.

Gator - Your lunch yesterday sounded yummy. It made me hungry just reading what you had. Sorry to hear that your df is still in the hospital. Hope that surgery can be avoided.

BOB - How did you get on at your doctor's appointment yesterday? Hope everything is o.k. with you.

Toni - Good that you have made it through your first week back on sb. As you said we just have to take it one day at a time.

Beachfan - Thanks for sharing your thoughts about sb with us. I think it is up to us all to learn as much about the glycemic index as we can. It's an ongoing learning process and each of us has to find what works for us.

Jack-K - Sorry to hear that you hurt your butt jogging this morning. Hope it is feeling better by the time you read this. I managed to see half of my gd's soccer game yesterday. Before they started on the second half it started to rain then there was thunder and lightning so the game had to be suspended. O well maybe I will get to see her another time. BTW I went back to the store and bought that jacket this morning - and got the smaller size (14). I don't know why I thought it was too small the other day. It fits fine and I haven't lost any since last week. :spin:

LadyVatrovia - I had to stop buying triscuits because once I start on them I can't keep my hand out of the box. Now if I want an afternoon snack I usually have some type of crispbread with cream cheese and fruit spread. At least I am satisfied with two or three of them.

Pancho - Sounds like you were in for a busy day to-day. Let us know how those recipes turn out if you try them. They both sound interesting.

Have a good day everyone.

Marie.

Ellen
07-22-2003, 05:18 PM
Just a quick note to let you all know I am still alive and kicking. Work is wiping me out this week! I am having a hard time getting to bed early enough to deal with getting up at five, and so I come home and all I want to do is sleep.

Eating has not been too good for me the last few days. I started with a few little cheats and it has gotten out of hand. They were sampling the ice cream cakes at work ,and I had several LARGE samples. That got the sugar monster awake and screaming. I need to get back OP tight, fast!

Tomorrow I am fixing dinner for my small group. I am going to make sushi, but I will try to make a good bit of it with my brown sushi rice.

Hope everyone is doing well!

Solly
07-22-2003, 05:54 PM
Quick Note:

Don't forget chat is tonight. Don't know if I'll make, but will try.


Semo, I think you need to add more veggies. They will help fill you up. Tomotoes are considered veggies.

Lady, off Hurstbourne Lane, around Meijers.

Pancho, I'm gonna have to look up the cookbook.

monet, come on girl, you can do this. Don't let that stress get to you.

Rosalie, what a shame about the ball game. Maybe next time.

Got to run get a pedicure.

Good luck on WIW to everyone.

Jackie

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
07-22-2003, 06:21 PM
OH MY GAWD JACKIE....You're just "around the corner" from Cathy...we go over there to shop all the time...LOVE THAT FASHION SHOP!!! I didn't realize you were that close to her.
She's off OLD HENRY...in Woodmont....

WELL...the Dr visit was interesting...I'm going to just copy to you what I wrote to the family last night...

Went to the Dr this morning and here's what he told me.
I have a C6 & 7 Radiculopathy..ie: pinched nerve with numbness. Surgery is not necessary right now and usually this problem will work its self out without it. Thanks goodness my Doc is not knife happy! He said in six months time, we will know it that will even be an option.
I'm to keep taking my "medication" as directed and come back in a month, then another month, then six months...then we'll decide.
He's more concerned with the "buldging disc" in the cervical region on the left side. According to the neuro radiologist
(one of the tops in his field) I am at risk for myelo......ism....iosis.....(can't pronounce it little lone spell it!) in the future which will cause neurological damage to my gait....weakness in my legs and arms causing me to eventually stand with my feet further apart every day to keep my balance. Surgery WILL be the option on this when the time comes. It's now causing strain on my spinal cord, but not enough for me to have problems with it yet. If and when surgery is done, he would remove the disc, do a bone graft and a plate to correct the problem.OUCH!!!

There you have it...it's not pretty, but at least now I know!

I've got to run...I'll check in later...

BOB

LadyVatrovia
07-22-2003, 07:10 PM
WOW!! I just had my first WW spaghetti! I can't believe it! It was so good!!!! I may of eaten a bit more than the 1 cup allowed but I am learning....this is such a find to me! I am only 1/2 Lumbee/cherokee LOL the "other" 1/2 is Italian and I live for my sauce!!!! I can't believe I can now have Spaghetti!!!!
::::::::dancing around in circles:::::::

sef
07-22-2003, 08:12 PM
HiedieHo All!

I am a good girl I am! Have stayed OP and all is well. Lunch the last 2 days has been a huge mixed salad with shredded cheese & crumbled bacon& a little dressing.

Finished the baby sampler. Was busy today and didn't get it framed, but did was and iron it. First thing in morning I will finish the job. Want to give it to Gigi Thursday.

Did get in pool for my exercise.

GATOR: Hope your DF is better soon.

BOB: You don't sdo things halfway do you?!? I hate it when they say it will resolve itself in time. During the time, you HURT! Good thoughts for you.


Take care Shirley

GatorGal
07-22-2003, 08:53 PM
Thanks for all the good wishes for my DF. As for what I think, I have a fear that the doctors will kill him. He lives in a small town, with a small hospital, and so far, it seems to me, they are just guessing a lot of the time. I hope he has truly become a member of God's adopted family, because he may soon be standing before the Lord explaining why he should be allowed into heaven. I'm hoping he makes it to his 90th birthday, but I'm afraid he won't make it to his 87th.

For lunch today:
One grilled cheese/bacon/tomato/onion sandwich--made with
a thin slice of WW bread toasted and topped with some thin slices of Vidalia onion (yum, so sweet), tomato slices, one oz. cheddar cheese, and one slice bacon, partially cooked and cut in half. This was cooked in a hot oven till the cheese got bubbly and melty and the bacon crisped. Very good. I also had a green salad and part of a fresh peach.

Breakfast: one scrambled egg and a protein powder-strawberry smoothie

Mid afternoon snack--4 oz meat patty of "health food" beef (ultra low fat, no hormones, antibiotics, etc) and 12 cherries.

Dinner: Homemade clam sauce over zucchini "spaghetti" and BOB's pole beans.

This was about 1060 calories. If I get hungry later I will have a wedge of canteloupe.

Regarding Sugar Busters and my lifestyle--I have been SBing for about 2-3 years and have struggled greatly, losing a pound here and there and then putting it back on. I have recently discovered I have a problem with my thyroid--I'm hypothyroid--which makes losing weight almost impossible. So I'm now on a thyroid med to help alleviate my problems in this area. I also recently corresponded with Rissa (Pretty Impressive Stuff) and was inspired by her e-mail regarding her situation to start counting calories again. This is something I HATE to do because it puts mealtime in the realm of an accounting regimen. But--I decided to weigh this morning and was down 2 pounds!! So that is some motivation, and perhaps evidence that I must be very strict with SB and also keep my calories down lower than I was, although I had not been counting. I aim for about 1100-1200 per day. Hopefully, if I can ever get to maintenance I can move up to 1300-1500.

As for the food, I try to limit my starches as much as possible. I agree with Beach, high fiber (veggies!!) low sugar and plenty of protein to keep hunger away as much as possible. Just don't do an Adkins diet--too hard on your kidneys and you get sick of it. I DO try to have some whole grain every day so I have at least one piece of WW bread. Right now I am using Pepperidge Farm 100% Stoneground WW bread, and I slice it crosswise, making a very thin slice. That way I can have 2 "slices" of bread a day, when actually it is just one slice. I also sometimes have Toufyan WW pita bread. I love fruit, so I feel that with the low bread I can have a extra fruit. Today I had some strawberries, blackberries and a peach and possibly a melon wedge later. I have real food. I use real butter, real mayo (Dukes because it does not have added sugar) and real salad dressing that I make myself (vinagrette with E.V. olive oil, balsamic and red wine vinegar, salt and pepper and spices maybe). But, of course, the fat ups the calories, so I try to watch it. I use olive oil as my primary fat. I "cheat" on special occasions--like my anniversary coming up in Aug. My DH is taking me out for the weekend to one of the resort hotels near here and we will eat at a really nice restaurant the 2 nights we are there. But I will try to be sane. I normally don?t drink alcoholic beverages, but occasionally a glass of red wine, which I probably will have on my anniversary. :)
Today I substituted julienned zucchini for spaghetti so that I could keep the calories low, add more veggies and also keep the carbs low. Debbie would probably have a fit and tell me the calories are too low, but, for me, right now, to actually lose weight, I will need to stay around this range to make any headway. At least until my thyroid meds get adjusted right. I also occasionally will up the calories 100-200 to give my body a "rest" and a little "shock". So, strict SB and watching those calories will be my plan. Actually, the book talks about not letting the food go outside the main part of the plate, not converging onto the sides or rim of the dinner plate. I think that is the author's way of keeping the food portions reasonable and keeping those calories down. Just my take on it.

I did not walk today. I worked at the pregnancy center until 1:30 and then had to come right home to meet a repairman. Will get back on the street tomorrow, though.

I can't remember if I said this or not, but one thing I really learned from my visit with my father is that it is really important to get that exercise and keep those muscles strong. Flexibility and balance is really important, as I watched my father barely be able to walk because he had let himself become weak, hardly walking at all when he was at home. Actually, he did very little, as was also letting his brain suffer from lack of mental exercise. So I came back from FWB with a renewed resolve.

Three of the gold rim swallowtails have "hatched" out of their chrysalides. I did not get to see them because I was gone most of yesterday. I have 6 eastern black swallowtail chrysalides in my screen box and I expect that they will emerge any day now. I have not figured out yet how I am gonna get the butterflies out of the box and into the garden. I don't want to injure the little guys in transporting them. Maybe I will just open the front and take the whole box out there. I also have two tiny monarch caterpillars munching away on some milkweed in the same screen box, so I will, hopefully, get to watch the little fellows get big and fat and also turn into a butterfly. I have not yet taken pictures. I need to take my 35 mm camera out there because it is too hard to catch them with the digital. I've tried with no success. I'll get around to it one of these days.

Gotta go. If I have time I'll come to chat.

beachfan37
07-22-2003, 10:28 PM
:wave: Hi Everyone

Bob...Good news that you don't have to have surgery but I know getting through the pain is hard. I'm thinking about you.

Gator...so sorry to hear about your DF. My thoughts are with you. When a parent is ill it is so hard. Congrats on the wt. loss. I agree that the only way to consistently lose is to count calories. One thing I have done is to vary my calories from day to day to trick my body into not thinking I am starving. Some days I go low 1200-1300 and some 1300-1500 but try to keep an average of around 1300.

Jack-k. I usually don't ever have that many carbs a day either but like I said it was a busy day. Today I only had 2 carbs at breakfast and then had protein, veggies and a fruit the rest of the day.

Sef. congrats on staying OP

Lady Vic - WW spagetti is great. I'm like you I have to measure it or I keep eating way too much.

Monet - Hang in there:grouphug:

Cherylco - I agree that it takes time to detox and following the book is the best way to do it.

Work seems to be getting better or I just have a better attitude since coming home from vacation. I'm more rested and have a better perspective.

My hubby and daughter went walking with me this afternoon and that was great. We walk/run about 2 miles down a walking trail that is in the woods.:cool:

Hope everyone has a good WIW tomorrow.

Anna
222/177/140

Teensybean
07-23-2003, 01:11 AM
Good evening gals, don't have time for replies tonight, but wanted to check in and see how everyone was doing.
Spent the day at the Vets, and at my Dr. Like BOB I got a little surprise. Will talk about it later, but I am seeing a Cardiologist in the morning. Have to get my baby girl (she is 9 years old) Bassethound in for teeth cleaning next week as her teeth are starting to get infected. Poor baby. She will not be a happy camper.

Lunch today-- 1 Turkey burger (fried with Pam and garlic) 1/2 cup FF cottage cheese, 1 cup fried zucchini with 1/2 tbl butter. Water.



BOB-- Sounds like you had a bit of surprise there. Glad it isn't surgery for the one, but what about the other?? And when is the time to do this???

Ladies, will be back tomorrow, sorry this is so inconclusive. :(

beachfan37
07-23-2003, 09:15 AM
:dizzy: Hi All.

I weighed the same today as I did when I came back from the beach 177...Feel good that I am still down and staying OP. I'm borderline between a size 18 and 16 so I have lost one dress size and getting close to 2. I had crept back up to an 20. Nice thing is I have clothes for most sizes:o

Teensy - So sorry to hear you have problems. Hope everything turns out ok. I'm thinking about you.

Well it is getting close to my TOM and I'm starting to have headaches and other problems. They will last the whole week:mad: I take migraine medicine but sometimes it is just the bloated headachy feeling that just lasts. Very aggravating.

Anna

222/177/140

cherylco
07-23-2003, 09:39 AM
BOB
on the bright at least what you have is fixable!

LadyV
I've found the WW spaghetti's and breads have so much flavor compared to the white stuff. I think you can only enjoy it if your palette isn't junked up with sugar though. Best thing is WW bread, Trader Joe's peanut butter and Polaner strawberry fruit...mmmm

Gator
What kind of medication do you take for your thyroid? Rissa's pages are really good. Her before and after are really motivating!
Sorry to hear your dad's in such poor health :(

beach
that's so awesome you get the family moving with you! As of Monday my DH started SB wahoo!! So that's all of us, our 2 kids do it too.
Lunch yesterday was at my cousins house, her sister was visiting from Fl. I brought my bread, had tuna salad, a green salad with tomatoes and onions an cucs and 2 bottles of water.
Was fine till she brought out the @#$^&* chocolate chip cookies with the coffee. Yah I ate one, nope 2!:cookie: :cookie:
Down another pound though, weighing in at 200!

Solly
07-23-2003, 10:15 AM
Good WIW. Hope everyone is happy with the scale today.

I wasn't. I was up 2 more pounds. These weekends are killing me. After vacation next week I am back 100% OP. No cheats or anything. May even get into the calorie counting. I'm tired of fooling with this last 10 pounds. Which is turning into 12 pounds.

Vacation shouldn't be too bad. Lots of fruit (except pineapple is very abundant there). Don't really like Carribean food too much so I can't gorge myself. I can pass up the sweets. Just the fancy drinks that cause me problems. :yes: :stars:

BOB, I'm on the south end of Hurstbourne Lane. about 10-15 minutes from Cathy. I guess the Dr's results are informative, but nothing definative to solve your problem right away. That's horrible about the disc. I hope it is slow progressing and is there nothing you can do now to slow it down? Take care of yourself.

Lady, keep in mind that 1/2 c ww pasta is 1 starchy carb. So 1 cup will be 2. Glad you liked it. I didn't. So I use the 100% duram semolina when I eat pasta which is rarely.

Sef, congrats on staying Op and getting your exercise in.

Gator, your lunch yesterday sounds great. Making me hungry. Glad you found out about your thyroid and doing something about it. Congrats on those 2 lbs. that will give you some motivation. I agree with you on the exercise. I have slacked off ont he wts for the last 2 weeks and I can already tell a difference. It is so important to keep it up. Hope your DF has a strong will and good attitude. That is 90% of it. My mom and dad always went to this little hospital. I hated it and called it a play hospital. Even though we have nice big hospitals too. It was closer to them and in their part of town. Very inconvenient for the rest of the kids though. Good wishes for your DF recovery and that he makes it to his 90th. My df was 88 when he passed away a month ago. It is hard to deal with. Take care of yourself too.

Beach, glad work is better for you. A good vacation always seems to do wonders. Walking inthe woods would be fun. Congrats on staying the same. Getting down 2 sizes in your clothes is great. I'm like you. I had every size in that closet. It was nice to get ride of the big ones though. Keep up the good work.

Teensy, hope things are ok with you.

Cherylco. Congrats on being down 1 today. You can just work off those cookies. Glad yoru DH has joined this WOE. So much easier for you.

Need to get busy here. Hope to check back later.

Congrats to all the losers this week.

Have a great day.

Jackie

Toni48
07-23-2003, 10:22 AM
Good morning everyone. I lost 5 1/2 lbs. this week so am really happy about it. I haven't been watching portion control real close because I just want to get going the right way. But will have to start soon. Think I'll have a couple of eggs, bacon, and a piece of toast for breakfast today.

LadyVatrovia- It sure sounds like you're doing good and trying lots of new things. Allot of times that really keeps me motivated.

Cherylco- You're really an inspiration to me..

Pancho- I'm going to have to make some chicken salad today, yours sounds so good. I've got to see if my health food store has those Shelton pot pies.

Rosalie- Your lunch sounds good!!! It always sounds like you keep really busy....

Monet- Ut oh get back in this wagon girl. My monster has been out of the cage and its so hard to get back under control.

Jack-K- Sorry about your "butt" hope its better today. LOL!!! Ouch....

Bob- Bless you gal you're sure having a rough time of it. Glad you don't have to have surgery right now....

Sef- Wow I admire anyone that can do needlework. I'll bet the sampler is really nice.

GatorGal- What a great post. I loved reading what you do with SB in your lifestyle...

beachfan- Its so nice to have someone to walk with.

Teensybean- Hope you don't get bad news at the cardiologist....

Hope I didn't miss anyone. Its hard to get back into writing long posts after not doing it for so long.

Toni48
07-23-2003, 10:26 AM
Jack-K- We were posting at the same time. Sorry about the 2 lbs. I'm so thrilled you're so near your goal. I hope you have a great vacation. You always do something so fun....

Rosalie
07-23-2003, 10:37 AM
Good Morning All

No changes to report this morning. Weighed in at 194 lbs the same as last week. Eating has been good. Staying op most of the time. Still doing Fit-day most days. I find I do better when I get most of my calories in by dinner time, then I don't feel the need to snack in the evening except for a glass of milk at bedtime. It seems to be working most days although there were a couple of days this week when I was a bit hungry in the evening. So I have to be vigilant in getting those calories in by dinner time.

BOB - Sorry the news wasn't good at the doctor's. Let's hope that the numbness and pain clears up soon and that surgery can be avoided for the disc problem. Sending good thoughts your way.

Beachfan - WTG on the smaller dress sizes and for staying the same this week. You have done well since you have returned to the fold. That's great that you have company for walking - more fun than doing it alone.

Cherylco - Congrats on being down another pound.

Jack-K - Sorry to hear that you are up this week. I think you will have to start hibernating on the weekends when you get back from your vacation.:)

Toni - That's awesome - 5 1/2 pounds this week. You must be doing the happy dance.

Teansybeen - Good luck at the cardiologist's to-day.

Well have to go and have breakfast.

Bye for now.

Marie.

Pancho
07-23-2003, 12:10 PM
Well WIW was surprising to me. I was at 125, which is about where I've been (between 125-127), but yesterday I had way too many starchy carbs. For breakfast I had some shredded Wheat with Uncle Sam sprinkled in it. For lunch I had chicken salad in a pita, for dinner I made fajitas and had 2 of my La Tortilla tortillas (soft taco size). BUT that's not all. I made some almond oat squares and had one when they were finished baking, and had a small bowl of popcorn my husband popped. I am sure it will catch up to me by tomorrow, so I am going to be good today. I had some Blue Bunny yogurt for breakfast with a little gram's granola. For lunch I am going to have a chicken caesar salad (no croutons) and I'm not sure what's for dinner yet.

Anyway....that's my news for this morning; nothing too exciting to report here.

Monet: It is so easy to let a few little cheats mess us up. I think it is not only the sugar/carb addiction, but for me it's a mental thing. I tell myself, "I've already screwed up, I might as well do it big." Pretty stupid, but I do that! You will get back on track soon. You have been a motivation factor to me; you originally started answering my posts on the Low Carb forum when no-one else was over there, and I appreciate your wisdom and insight on SB. You feel good when you are on plan, so that is where you will be soon.

Jack: The book I mentioned is not a cookbook, but a book about ways to get sugar out of your life. There are some recipes throughout but not a whole lot. They encourage the use of natural products, but also use a lot of honey and molasses and pineapple juice and stuff like that. I've had to play with some of the recipes to make them taste edible without using some of the ingredients called for. Good luck staying OP during your vacation, but remember having fun is the most important thing. You are so close to goal, and you've lost it before. If you happen to gain a few, you will lose it again. Just have a great time!!!

BOB: I am sure you are relieved to know what is going on, although not the best news. I hope the meds work for you and you do not have to go through any type of surgery. That would not be an easy surgery to go through or recover from, I am sure.
I will keep you in my prayers!

Lady: You crack me up! You sound just like I did at first. After doing Atkins for 2 months I couldn't believe the options you have on SB. I deprived myself for two months and struggled to lose the weight, and then started SB and felt like I was "cheating" big time. BUT, I continued to lose weight and feel great. I was pleasantly surprised at the taste of the WW pasta. I didn't think I would like it at all, but I do. My five-year old never even noticed when I switched over, and my husband says he likes it better. He says it has a heavier texture and tends to fill him up more. I am starting my 12-month old out on it from the gate, so she will never know the white stuff, unless eating out. It is hard not to eat too much though. I always have a salad and another veggie with it, and eat it more as a side dish instead of the main course. I have made a lot of yummy stuff with those WW noodles. I made a goulash one night, and a chicken pesto another, and then there is the standard spaghetti. You will be very happy on SB if you continue to experiment. I can relate to the Uncle Sam cereal; I sprinkle it into my oatmeal or shredded wheats (more for the fiber than anything). I don't think I would like it by itself. It is also higher in fat than some of the other cereals that you can have (try shredded wheat by Post, and even the Cheerios in the yellow box only have 1 gram of sugar per serving).

Gator: I am so sad to hear about your dad; I will continue to pray for him, and hope the doctors make the right decisions for him. Wow, I bet the butterflies are beautiful; how neat!! Congrats on the 2 pounds.

Toni: WOW, 5 1/2 pounds. That's great. Keep up the good work!!!

Take care everyone!

GhostDeen
07-23-2003, 01:04 PM
Weigh in Wednesday is upon us! I've lost a little weight, that's probably why I'm so enthusiastic about it! *lol*

I am down two more pounds to 203.5 -- What an awesome WOE! This is so much better than Atkins, and I'm losing just as much weight -- I love it. :)


BTW, I have two questions:

1. Is pumpernikel bread legal?

2. Where can I find the cobbler recipe that someone posted a few weeks ago -- I am dying to try it!


Thanks, And congrats to all you losers and maintainers!

Toni48
07-23-2003, 04:09 PM
Great job gals..... Would love that cobbler recipe too......

Sugar Sherry
07-23-2003, 05:08 PM
Hi everyone!

Well I just bought the SB book yesterday, and have it just about finished. I was on Atkins for a few weeks, lost 5lbs, but I was unhappy the whole time. I never got over the fact that all carbs were bad, it just seems wrong to me. This diet or WOE seems so healthy! I'm very excited to get started and this is such a cool board! But I have to say (and i'm sure a lot of newbies have) the book is a bit confusing. I really like to have a plan layed out so I can follow it the best way. The time to eat fruit, and carbs has me lost. So this is what I think so far,
Fruit an hour before a meal, or two hours after, and not with any other food, right? And only 2-3 servings a day, as well as 2-3 starchy WW food right? And then veggies anytime, as long as they are "legal". I hope I got it right And the other thing is I know that the weight doesn't fall off like on Atkins, but what is an average amount of weight to lose in a week? I have 40lbs to lose and I want to lose it the healthy way so I don't gain it back. I do get ahead of myself!
Thanks in advance! Looking forward to getting to know everyone here, hope everyone has a great day!
Sherry

GatorGal
07-23-2003, 05:10 PM
thanks for the thoughts about my DF. He is now out of surgery and is doing OK. I will talk to him by phone this evening.

Cherylco--I was taking synthroid, but now am taking Armour Thyroid. I get a blood test in a couple of weeks, and I hope the results are better than they have been with the Synthroid.

Rosalie
07-23-2003, 05:19 PM
Click here to go the the board that has the COBBLER (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=26194&perpage=40&pagenumber=2) recipe. It is the last recipe on that thread.

Pancho - It sounds like you were having a party yesterday. ;)

Ghost - Real pumpernickel bread is legal if it is made with 100% whole grain rye flour but this is the really heavy stuff. You really need to check the ingredients as most of it does contain enriched flour. They just add some coloring and call it pumpernickel.

Marie.

Solly
07-23-2003, 05:19 PM
Since I won't be around for Friday Funnies, I wanted to share this one now:

>Time Changes Everything....
>
>I used to have Saturday Night Fever... Now I just have Saturday
>Night hot flashes.
>
>Ever get the feeling your stuff strutted off without you?
>
>Any woman can have the body of a 21-year-old... as long as she
>buys him a few drinks first.
>
>My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as
>sharp as it used to be.
>
>Know how to prevent sagging? Just eat till the wrinkles fill out.
>
>I've still got it, but nobody wants to see it.
>
>I'm getting into swing dancing. Not on purpose some parts of my
>body are just prone to swinging.
>
>It's scary when you start making the same noises as your coffeemaker.
>
>I think I've reached my sexpiration date.
>
>People our age can still enjoy an active, passionate sex life!
>Provided we get cable or that dish thing.
>
>The good news is that even as we get older, guys still look at
>our boobs. The bad news is they have to squat down first.
>
>These days about half the stuff in my shopping cart says, "For
>fast relief."
>
>I've tried to find a suitable exercise video for people my age..
>But they haven't made one called "Buns of Putty."
>
>Don't think of it as getting hot flashes. Think of it as your inner child playing with matches.
>
>Don't let aging get you down...It's too hard to get back UP!

Jackie

Solly
07-23-2003, 06:03 PM
Just a quickie.

Toni, :cb: Girl you are doing AWESOME! Congrats on those 5 1/2 lbs. WOW.

Rosalie, I guess your suggestion for hibernating onthe weekends is what I'm going to have to do. Much too social. Stying the same ifs ok. I'll trade you. :lol:

Pancho. Thanks for straightening me out ont he book. I still would like to read it. You are doing great. Hang in there.

Ghost, WTG on those 2 lbs. This is much better than Atkins. the bread is legal only if there is no enriched flours. Check out the recipe board for the cobbler.

Sherry, if you can lose 1-2 lbs a week that will be good. It will slow down too. Idon't do the fruit thing, don't have any digetion problems.

Gator, glad your DD is out of serugery. Still sending prayers his way.

I think I forgot to post my lunch today. It was 1 pc ww bread and chicken salad. Orange. Didn't have much time to eat since I went and got my hair cut on my lunch hour. had some cashews for a snack.

Dinner is pita pizzas.

Have a great evening.

Jackie

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
07-23-2003, 06:34 PM
GOOD CLOUDY AFTERNOON EVERY BUDDY!!! :wave:

Looks like the bottom of the sky is going to fall any minute! It's getting dark out there!

WELL...this is Doc week for BOB ...
Went to see the medical Doc this morning...he patted me on the back and said...."Narda, there a lot of you here that you don't need ya know?" Here's the plan...he likes the way I'm eating and doesn't want me to change that....he is starting me on Wellbutrin AGAIN, but different dosage....one complete month
with just the Wellbutrin and then start the patches to stop the smoking upping the dosage of the Wellbutrin to two a day from one a day. He said "I'm gonna give you something to combat the weight (paxil causes wgt gain) and it will help your head too!" To which I replied...
"What's wrong with my head?" .....His reply...."Well, you've got to be CRAZY to smoke in the first place!!!!!"
I have to have intensive BLOOD WORK and he said if my cholesterol and my triglycerides have not come down from last year, I have to start medication for that!!! AND I have to have my first COLONOSCOPY!
DAMN TURNING 50!!!! I'm going for the annual BOOBIE SQUASHING tomorrow afternoon and that's not something that I look forward to...I have a petrified lymph node that shows up every now and then ( they found that years ago when I had a breast biopsy) and it's hung around this time longer than usual...makes me sweat to think about it....FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED FOR THAT PLEASE!!!!
I think that's it for now....GAWD....isn't that enough!!!! :eek:

Thanks to all of you for the good thoughts about my pinched nerve and the other thing...just wish we could see into the crystal ball :dizzy:

JACKIE...is it this week you leave on your trip????? I've got fingers and toes crossed for good weather... have a few of those
GIRLIE DRINKS for me...and
I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME!!!!

LADYV...I've never tried the pasta...afraid that if I get started, I won't stop! Next time I'm in L'ville to see my niece, you, Jackie and I will have to get together...

TEENSY....good thoughts coming your way with the cardiology problem...let us know the results...

GATOR...you've got to get some pictures of the back yard posted.
Having seen the beginning of your work out there, I'm anxious to see what it looks like now. Still got good thoughts for your DOD

SHERRY....WELCOME {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}} Good to have you here with us...

PANCHO...thanks for the prayers...I'm gonna need them...!!!!!

MARIE...how's your weather up there???? Is it as hot as it is down this way? I think about your lawn bowling and what a sweat that must bring on!!!

TONI...no surgery now, but who knows down the road...I've always thought that if you start hacking and sawing on the neck and back that it's just the start of more and more....Thanks for your thoughts...

CHERYL....fixable yes, but how intense will it be when we get started???? Thanks for your thoughts...

BEACH...Maybe I ought to come up there to that Sports Medicine
specialist that they have at Baptist Hospital in Birmingham...they say he's the best there is...Thanks you for your concern!

Well....it's time to fee the FURBABY
and I guess I better get Kate something on a plate too...
Hope everyone has a great evening....

BOB

GatorGal
07-23-2003, 07:42 PM
Breakfast today: SB recipe pancakes topped with fresh strawberries and 1 T SF syrup.

Lunch: Fandango salad at Panera Bread--lettuce, some mandarin orange segments, feta cheese, walnut pieces, vinagrette dressing, 1/4 sourdough roll
All this was 435 calories.

Dinner: 1/2 roasted cornish game hen with 10 whole garlic cloves with pan juice reduction, chopped spinach

This will be about 1100 calories today.
I was only hungry from about 4:30 until dinner at 6:30.

OK BOB, I'll get my ole 35 mm. out and take some pix. I can do telephotos with that and not get too close to the butterflies. If I can get some file before the chrysalides hatch, I can try to capture that on film also. I can also get some "cute" caterpillars. My dh has a scanner and maybe he can figure out how to post the pix.

See ya later.
PS. Nobuddy showed for chat last night, at least for the 2 times I checked in.

heartmom
07-23-2003, 08:03 PM
HELLO!!:wave:

woodfrogs
07-23-2003, 10:46 PM
WIW - 240.5, down another 2 pounds!

Had a hard time staying OP today, it just wasn't a great day in soooooo many ways..

Hope that everyone else is doing well...

Barbara
270/240.5/135

beachfan37
07-23-2003, 11:09 PM
Hi all just checking in tonight to say hi:) I had a migraine all day so I'm not going to try and respond to everyone.

Heartmom...hi. Hope things are going well. Saw your hi earlier and just wanted to respond.

Woodfrogs my day was not great either. Way to go on WIW...hope things are better for you tomorrow.

Congrats to all who lost and hang in there to all who didn't have a good WIW. :grouphug:

Teensybean
07-24-2003, 02:09 AM
Good evening ladies. It has been so hot here. We have been in the 100's for two days now. Seems like no matter how much water I pour to my lawn, it is just burning up. I have decided to concentrate on just the flowers and the garden from now on.

I finally got off my duff and found a new doctor. Mine retired a few years ago, and I had not replaced him. I found a small lump on the back of my arm and wanted to have it checked. I was sure that it was just a fatty tumor, but wanted to be sure. Yes, that is what she thinks it is too. We will keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't grow or get sore! I also thought it was time to have all the blood work done. You know the cholestrol, blood sugar, and all that stuff. But in the mean time, she found that I have a heart murmur. So today I went in for an echocardiogram. Won't know anything for a few days, and didn't really get any answers on what causes this OR what they can do. It will all depend on what they find. THIS WAS A TOTAL SHOCK!! Does anyone know anything about this?? She did ask if I had ever taken Phen-fen. Which I haven't.

Anyway, congrats to all you losers out there. I am one of the stayed the same this week!! Hope you will all be big losers next week. Keep up the good work all.

Beach-- Thanks for the words of comfort. Won't know anything for a few days yet.

Cherylco--Congrats on the loss!! Yeah, your a loser!!!

Jack-k-- Sorry that the scale is being so nasty to you this week. Have a great vacation....and then hit her hard again when you get home!!

Toni--Wow, that is awesome. :dance: 5.5 pounds is great!! Hope it continues to melt away for you.

Rosalie-- I too stayed the same this week, but that is so much better than gaining. For some reason I seem to be hungrier than usual too. I still have my dear TOM with me, maybe that is it. Anyway I hope that is all.

Pancho-- Good idea for today. I usually try to go without something if I over do. Is popcorn legal??

Ghost-- Way to go on the weight loss this week. Isn't this a great way of eating??

Sherry-- WELCOME TO SUGAR BUSTER'S!! The weight loss will vary from person to person. Some are losing 2-3 pounds a week, some .5 -1, or even up to 5. Each person is different, and so your miles may vary!!

BOB-- I swear we are on the same wave length. My mamogram is on the 30th, with the other exam on the 11th, (PAP) got my rear chewed big time by this new doctor. My doctor retired a few years ago, and I have put off finding a new one, until now! So have been without the yearly exams. Had all the blood work done today. Oh well. Hope that the Wellbutrin and the patches do the trick for you. I quit 3.5 years ago, and Thank God every day that I did!! You can do this!!
Heart-- Hello to you too!! :wave:

Woodfrog-- Whoo Hoo!! Your losing it my friend!! lol.

Solly
07-24-2003, 09:43 AM
Good Thursday Morning.

Ah, my last day of work. I love it.

The boards are slow this week. Is it due to our leader being gone?

Spent all night washing and packing. Have everything ready to go except for for hair and makeup stuff. Guess we will head for Cincinnati after dinner.

Kim, I guess you are on vacation. Wish we could have met up tonight.


Bob, I got a good laugh out of your Dr's comment on you smoking. And I have to say I agree. They are trying to pass a no smoking law for Louisville and after listening to all the commercials I have to say I hope it passes. You really need to quit that. Man this is the week for Dr's. Can you toture yourself any more? Sending good thoughts your way on the boobie squashing. I have something like that and even though I know it will show up and really don't have to worry about it, I still do. Yes we leave for Cincy tonight. Flying out of there Friday morning. I will have a good time. I usually have a good time no matter what I do. I'll have a few drinks for you since you are twisting my arm.

Gator, that salad from Panera sounds delish. I will be checking that out.

Woodfrog, congrats on another 2 lbs. When you have those stressful days, just think about those 2 pounds you lost and how you don't want to have to lose them again.

Beachfan, hope that headache is better today.

Heartmom, :wave:

Teensy, sounds like you and BOB are both doing the Dr thingy this week. I don't know, but don't think murmurs are that serious. But wait and see what your doc says. Keeping my :crossed: for you.


Lunch today will be 1 pita pocket pizza and an apple.

I tried some shorts on last night and they were a little snug. Boy was I bummed out. I really don't think the 3 lbs I'm up should make that much difference so I really think it's from not working out and walking as much. So I and totally resolved to hitting this hard again as soon as we get back. Exercise and eating. They have a fitness center at the hotel, and I will be there every day. Plus DH will walk my butt off. It is a topless beach and he likes to see the sights :o

I will really miss you all. I'm going to be as good as I can there.

Bob, send me an email of anythign that happens that I need to know about while I'm gone if you will.

Love you guys.

Jackie.

BOBatwork
07-24-2003, 10:22 AM
AYE AYE Captain Jackie.....I'll keep you informed....:)

BOB

LadyVatrovia
07-24-2003, 10:24 AM
Just wanted to say g-morning to you all. I work 12:30 to 9 tonight so I got to sleep in some :) When it starts to get late though I'll be wondering why the heck did I scheduled myself for the late night...again LOL I stayed on track yesterday despite and emergency at work...I sure thought about going and getting a candy bar out of the vending machine but I didn't.....I'm an emotional eater! So today is another day!. I actually don't do too badly on work days...it's my day off "nights" I have trouble with....
Aaaaaaaanyway........
I look forward to getting to know you all. Right now I'm a little overwhelmed with so much "new" everything.....

Pancho
07-24-2003, 11:30 AM
Good morning all:

Things so far around here are good, but I think my 5-year old is getting a cold (coughing, sneezing, runny nose). I swear I get one of them better and the other one gets sick; what's up with that? It's summer....we are supposed to stay well when it is hot out.

I guess my carb overdose on Tuesday didn't affect me too much. I was at 124.5 this morning, down a half pound from yesterday. I did have yogurt for breakfast yesterday and a Caesar salad without croutons for lunch, and are you ready?......I had a large salad and an ear of corn-on-the-cob for dinner. I know it is illegal and I haven't had any in months, but the "sweet" corn from Olathe, Colorado made it into the stores yesterday and I had to treat myself to one. I did put butter on it, so that changes the glycemic load some, and I savoured it knowing that would be it for awhile. I also had another handful of popcorn when hubby popped some:nono:


Sugar: Welcome! I was an Atkins do-er as well. SugarBusters is a healthy way to eat the rest of your life. I knew when I was on Atkins that I could not eat that way forever, even in the maintenance phase. You seem to pretty much understand the basics. I found the pocket size shopper's guide really helpful. It outlines everything you can have and all the forbidden foods. It was a real life-saver for me in the beginning. Everyone is different, but here is how I've done on SB.....I was on Atkins for 2 months and lost 12 pounds (very touchy ones I might add). I have been doing SB for 2 1/2 months and have lost 15 pounds, and they haven't been nearly as touchy. I can have a little cheat/splurge, and as long as I don't overdo it, I am fine. When I was on Atkins, if I had one little cheat, I would gain 2-3 pounds. Good luck; I know you will be happy here.

Gator: How was you dad when you spoke with him last night??

BOB: Good luck to you on quitting smoking; I know that you know it is bad for you, but I'm sure it is an addictive behavior very hard to break. Boobie squashing....crack me up. It hurts to have those mammos done. As far as the lymph node, I will pray that it is nothing. I had a large lump in my armpit when my oldest daughter was 4 days old. My doc. thought it was an infection (which it wasn't), and I ended up being referred out to a surgeon who told me it was probably Lymphoma, breast cancer or Hodgkins. I left there praying it was breast cancer (that was the best of the three, right?). Well, after much testing, it turns out that it was assymetrical breast tissue and nothing had to be done (maybe it was all the prayers that turned it all around). Anyway, during my second pregnancy (I was only 10 weeks along), the lump reappeared and was large. I had to deal with it throughout my pregnancy, and when my daughter was about three months old, the surgeon removed it, and it was nothing!! I would think that if the node appeared so long ago, and you have been well, overall that it is really nothing. But, you can't be too careful these days. Best of luck to you through all the testing for everything!

Woodfrogs: Congrats on the 2 pounds.

Beach: Hope you head is feeling better.

heartmom: Just hi; what's going on? Is all well on your end?

Teensy: Glad you found a new doctor. I hope the lump on your arm turns out to be nothing. I don't know a lot about heart murmurs, but I do know that a lot of people are born with them, and don't find out until later in life. I am not sure how they develop if you don't have one early in life. I don't think that they are too serious if the doctor is aware that you have one. But, I'm no expert, that's for sure. Popcorn is not legal (it's corn), but I've always eaten a little here and there (even when on Atkins) and it has never affected me negatively. There is a new popcorn called Smart Balance, which has no trans fats and no hydrogenated oils and it tastes delicious! Our entire family will eat that from now on.

Well, I hope you all have a wonderful day. Tomorrow is FRIDAY!!

Take care.

Rosalie
07-24-2003, 01:25 PM
Hi Everyone

Sugar - Welcome to the board. Yes this is a very healthy woe and we can eat a great variety of foods, unlike Atkins. The fruit rule is flexible. Some people may have trouble with digestion if fruit is eaten with a meal as it sits in the stomach too long and ferments. But if it doesn't bother you then it is fine to have it with a meal. This rule doesn't apply to berries, it's quite o.k. to have them with a meal. I like to have berries with my cereal in the morning. The 2-3 starchy carbs a day that we are allowed includes breads, rice and pasta. Brown rice is preferred unless it is Basmati then white or brown is allowed. Pasta preferably should be made with whole wheat but if it is cooked al dente white is also acceptable. I don't know if the new book says to avoid carrots. Since the first book came out more testing has been done and they were found to have a lower gi than the original testing showed so now are legal - cooked as well as raw. Lots of veggies are allowed like broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, kale and other greens, tomatoes, green beans. There a lots of others but that's all I can think of for now. We all lose at different rates so it is hard to say how quickly you should lose. 1-2 pounds per week would be a good loss although some lose larger amounts at the beginning and then it slows down. Others have a much harder time losing. You might want to check out RISSA'S SITE (http://www.prettyimpressivestuff.com/sugarbusters/). This has lots of good information on this woe.

Gator - Hope your df is doing well following his surgery.

BOB - Hope you survive the boobie smashing to-day. It's not too hot here right now. To-day is about 78 degrees but tomorrow promises to be hotter. I try to avoid the bowling in the afternoon when it is too hot.

Woodfrogs - Congrats on the 2 pounds down this week.

Beachfan - Hope your headache is better.

Teensybean - There are various reasons for heart murmers. Some are serious others don't cause any problems. My 36 yr old dd was diagnosed with one recently and was told hers was due to a defective valve. There was no treatment recommended except that she will have to take antibiotics before any future dental work. You might want to check out the website of the American Heart Association (http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4571) for some information.

Jack-K - Have a wonderful vacation. Watch those margaritas but have fun. :)

LadyVatrovia - Hi.

Pancho - Hope your dd is better soon. I don't think that ear of corn should do any damage. Sounds like you were op the rest of the day. What's a handful of popcorn - can't be anymore than 2-3 grams of carbs. :).

Well I'd better go and take the laundry out of the drier. I'm really running late to-day. All I've done so far is have breakfast, read the newspaper and have done one load of laundry. Have to go and shower, have lunch and do some grocery shopping. Haven't decided what to have for dinner yet.

Bye for now.

Marie.

beachfan37
07-24-2003, 04:48 PM
Quick Hi! Yes my head is better today. The day after a headache I am just tired and shaky. Thanks for the thoughts.

GatorGal
07-24-2003, 05:40 PM
I tried to get on the board for the last 2 hours (between 1 and 3) but it must have been down or sumptin'. Anyway, it is working now.

I got my 3 miles in today. Boy, it is hot. I began sweatin' half way through. I tried to pick up the pace and got my mileage in 5 minutes faster than I usually do.

Breakfast:
1 scrambled egg,
1 slice bacon microwaved crisp
1 thin slice WW bread with 1 t butter
1 wedge honeydew melon

Lunch:
Caramelized vidalia onions and carrots with stir fried chicken added. Then sauced with sherry and finished by swirling in 2 T sour cream. Yum!
1 canteloupe wedge

So far, about 600 calories.
I am working out down at my DH's club this evening, so will get to have supper out at the restaurant there. I probably will have their California Salad, a meal--
1/2 head bibb lettuce, crab meat, 4 or 5 segments of citrus fruit, some avocado slices and lo-cal dressing.

My cable is on the fritz today so most of the time I cannot get onto the internet. When I started this post I was linked, but now it is down. The repairman is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be an easy fix with a loose wire or something in the back of the house where the cable comes in. I've been plagued by the problem for the past 3 days. Today it is worse. When the cable comes back up I will post this.

My DF is doing OK as of last night. The surgery (pacemaker inplant) did not require total anesthesia, but he had a local and some Versaid to make him forget everything that had happened. He has to keep his left arm totally immobile, and they have to watch him like a hawk for 24 hours. He is hoping that he can go home tomorrow. He still has a urinary/prostate problem and I don't know what he will decide to do about that. It's a man's problem. We women have enough of our own; thank goodness we don't have that one too.

Gotta go. I'm trying to take butterfly pictures. I got a couple this morning. I am using a still camera so it will be a week or so before I get the pictures developed. Some of the biggest butterflies--the giant swallowtail and the tiger swallowtail (my favorite) are so big that they flutter their wings when then nectar to keep their balance. So I will be interested in seeing how the pix turned out.

Solly
07-24-2003, 05:54 PM
gETTING READY TO LEAVE.

I will miss you guys. See you Aug 4th.

Lady, WTG on that self control when you were stressed out. Keep your goal in mind and that will help keep you focused.

Pancho, congrats on being down another 1/2 lb. I haven't had corn in over 2 years. A big piece on the cob sounds so good. Hope your kiddo feels better.

Gator, hope your dad is doing ok after his surgery.

Jackie

Ellen
07-24-2003, 06:00 PM
Another quick post from me...I just don't seem to have much time lately!

Work was, well, work this morning. I was SO tired! I did not want to go in, and could not believe how slow the clock moved this morning! I tried to take a nap when I got home, but did not get in much of one. Tonight, we are going to some friends' house for dinner and to play Scrabble. Not sure how I am going to be able to play as tired as I am!

I am trying to get back on track and so I am taking it one step at a time. I am getting the sugar out first. Today, I have had too many starches, but I feel like I am making some progress. I have wanted to get my fingers into the icing at work, eat sweet snacks I have here for my kids, but did not.

Tomorrow I am off, so I will try and get in a nice long post, and hopefully some replies!

Hugs to you all!

:wave:

heartmom
07-24-2003, 06:06 PM
TEENSY- Heart murmurs in their self aren't dangerous. It's simply the sound your heart makes. BUT- in alot of cases, this is a signal that there might be something wrong. The reason the tech asked you if you took Phen Phen is because it has been linked to causing mitral valve damage. My son, Joseph, has a very strong murmur. In fact, I get a kick out of it when docs don't read his chart before coming in, and they listen to his chest in awe. Some say they've never heard such a pronounced murmur before. BTW, he was born with a congenital heart defect called Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. Basically, he doesn't have a left ventricle. He's had 3 open heart surgeries(he's 3), and they have replumbed his heart so that his right ventricle does all the work, and it's like he only has half a heart now. Anyway, don't freak out until you know what's what. I know several people who have murmurs and nothing is wrong. My half sister has mitral valve prolapse and a murmur, she only takes medicine for it. And of course, before any dental work(including cleaning), you have to take antibiotics.

Well guys, I feel really crappy. I am up 5 pounds!!!!! We went on vacation to Pensacola Beach Friday. Friday I did okay with the eating and all hell broke loose after that! I ate more than I've EVER eaten in my life! I couldn't stop, I just ate and ate- and of course, all bad. Too ashamed to tell what all I consumed. Just when I was doing so good, too. Well, I'm back home and back on track. Even exercised to my 3 mile tape today. But it wasn't worth it. And although, I'm back on plan, I'm eating too much. I feel hungry all the time. See what sugar does to ya?!! I learned a lesson the hard way. Anyway, the damage is done, and it's a new day. I would post my lunch today, but I'm embarrassed at the amount I ate, although legal. I'll be glad when these sugar cravings go away.

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
07-24-2003, 06:32 PM
GOOD AFTERNOON BUDDYS! :wave:

Just home from the squashing...the nodule showed up on the films. The Tech felt around and said it was just under the skin and she could feel under it so it's not deep...Of course, she told me that she's not a Doc and wants me to have it checked.
I'll do that with my gyno....it's about the size of a pea. Might as well have it removed just to be safe...I'll keep you posted.

ROSALIE...So glad to hear that you don't do the bowling in the heat of the day. We have a court here in Sarasota for the Canadians and the English that come for vacation...I remember from when I was just a little girl, we would go and watch..Looks like fun, but it's to damn hot even after the sun goes down here to try it out!

TEENSY...my Brother was diagnosed years ago with a murmor and it has never given him any problems. He 's a very active person, so I imagine that if it was gonna do anything, it would have done it by now. Let me know how the testing goes...we don't want it to interfere with our BAR HOPPING!

HEART...How's BOOGIE....hope he's feeling good and enjoying
the summer...

MONET....you've just gotten TOO BUSY!!! SLOW DOWN...we miss you and your daily posts!

GATOR....glad to hear your DOD is going good...goot thoughts still coming your way....Can't wait to see the pictures....

BEACH....so glad your noggin is better...

PANCHO....I promise to get this checked....thanks for sharing your story with me...

LadyV....don't worry, you'll catch on to our craziness around here and be right in the middle of it before you know it!

WOODFROGS.....CONGRATS on the loss....keep it up girl!!!!

Well...time to feed the FURBABY

Later

BOB

beachfan37
07-24-2003, 11:03 PM
Hi ALL I feel much better and am even up to getting on the computer. At work I have a screen that filters out the light so it doesn't bother me there but at home I haven't bought myself one yet and should!

Sugar - Welcome to the board. SB has been successful for me. I actually lost 90 lbs but didn't do a great job of sticking to it as a way of life gained about half of it back before getting my head on straight and starting over. This time I am close to 20 lbs lost and am committed to making it a way of life. For me, I have to watch the amount I eat and walk to lose weight.

Gator - How did you get into the butterfly garden. I love them and try to plant flowers that will attrack them. The other day the prettiest biggest butterfly I had ever seen was outside my front door. Of course I don't know enough to tell you what kind it was!

BOB - I have to do the female doctor in 2 weeks. Mine is always an all day ordeal because of past history and my mom having ovarian cancer. I get the boobie smash and ultrasounds etc. What a pain! (in more ways than one)

Woodfrogs - Congrats on losing this week.

Jack-k - HAVE A GREAT TIME ON YOUR VACATION. We will miss you. I like the good drinks too. One way I think I did ok was to limit myself to one good drink a day.

Teensy - Hearing that your heart has problems is always scary. I was born with a hole in my heart and am still very active and actually very healthy. The advances in cardiology these days is astounding! You'll be fine. I'm thinking about you!

Lady - You'll figure us all out quickly and the SB plan. Glad you are here.

Pancho - I know how it feels to have a little one with a cold. They are miserable and you are too. Even now with 2 teenagers, when they are sick, we are all miserable!

Monet and Pancho and Heartmom - One thing that helps me get over the sugar high is to have almost all carbs for 1-2 days and not worry about the portions. This usually cures me and I get back on track...except when I hit goal weight and went crazy but you can't count that can you? :o Just don't do what I did and stop coming to the board. I think that is why I had such a hard time. I was hiding from DEBBIE and myself and everyone else here. :dizzy:

Rosalie - You've done a great job with the board this week. :bravo: :cp:

Rosalie and Gator - Your meals make my mouth water. I am just not that great a cook and seem to take the easy way out. You both are starting to inspire me to get more creative.

Hope I didn't leave anyone out. When you've been a way even for 1 day it is hard to keep up!

Several people commented on how my family walks with me. We've really started to make it a family tradition with the teenagers. When they are little you see them all the time (sometimes too much) but then suddenly all the family time goes away. We eat out one time a week together and go walking in the evenings. The other thing is that even though they don't have a weight problem, the teens were eating pretty unhealthy. Now they tend to eat like I do and really think about what they are eating. My son is a sugarholic but he is getting better. My daughter also is a dance so she needs the energy that eating this way gives her. My hubby...needs to lose wt and is trying but he loves food :(

Well have to run. Am being visited by 5 teenage boys who are spending the night!

222/177/140

Sugar Sherry
07-24-2003, 11:33 PM
Hi Everyone!

Thank you all for all the info and support! I can already tell that this board is a lot of fun :) So much better than talking about what kind of cheese you ate with your meat, ha ha
Anyway just wanted to pop in and say hello and thanks!
Sherry

cherylco
07-24-2003, 11:41 PM
Toni48

5 and a half pounds is totally awesome!! Good for you.
Made the skillet pizza tonight. Was delicious.

GhostDeen
Way to go on those 2 pounds!

Sugar Sherry
Glad you made it over. You have your info correct! The book is confusing. I found it was good to read it once straight through, then I've re-read certain chapters of the book over and over.
The fruit thing is to avoid stomach upset. Because fruit can ferment in your stomach the recommend eating it on an empty stomach or 2 hours after a meal. I eat it whenever cause it doesn't bother me.
The more you need to lose it the easier it seems to come off. I lost like 3 pounds a week for a while. My pound losing has slowed down but I've been losing inches so I'm happy. Everyone is different.

woodfrogs
Good for you! You Ex-Atkins chicks are doing fab!

beachfan
I hope your migraine goes quickly. I know how painful they can be :(

LadyV
Way to go on passing up the candy bar! One day at a time!


Pancho
My dh made a big ole bowl last night too. Popped corn is ok once in a while.

BOB
I quit smoking after about 15 years. It's been 4 years and I LOVE not being a smoker! It's like being let out of prision!
My mom quite after about 40 years. She swears by this board
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/76750

The site has some great info
http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/intro.htm

GhostDeen
07-24-2003, 11:46 PM
I just made the cobbler recipe from this board -- it is wonderful! I used blackberries, blueberries, peaches and apples and stone ground whole wheat flour and it is heavenly. I know what I'm having for breakfast tommorrow! Just wanted to share and encourage everyone to try this awesome recipe!

Rosalie
07-25-2003, 01:22 AM
Hi Everyone

This will just be a quickie. I forgot to post my lunch yesterday so here's what I had: 2 cups of mixed veggies stir fried with an onion and cumin seed and a 6 oz. turkey breast. To-day I had a can of kippers, about 6 oz, with cucumber in vinegar. I usually have more veggies but was in a rush to-day after getting up late. And it was about 2.30 before I ate lunch. For dinner tonite I had beef stroganoff - bought precooked - with egg noodles and green peas. Had cooked apricots, prunes and almonds with my breakfast this morning. I had this with couscous. I just soaked 1/4 cup of couscous in about 6-7 oz of boiled milk. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes then it is ready to eat. I assume this is legal. I did look for whole wheat couscous but have not been able to find any. Anyway it makes a change from my usual oatmeal or oatbran.

Monet - Hope you get a good sleep tonite and feel perked up in the morning. Those early mornings can certainly do a number on you, particularly when you aren't used to being up and out so early.

Heartmom - Sorry to hear about your weight gain. I know how hard it is to stay op while away. But I am sure once you get back op those pounds will fall off. If you are feeling hungry all the time maybe you are eating too many high glycemic starchy carbs. If you can concentrate on trying to eat more low glycemic foods, like veggies, fruit and beans/peas/lentils etc maybe that would help to curb your appetite. JMHO.

Ghostdean - Glad you liked the cobbler. That sounds like a delicious fruit combination. Yum yum.

Sorry I can't respond to you all at this time. I really should be getting some shuteye. I have to be up early in the morning as I am going to the casino. Don't plan on spending much money but the bus ride and buffet lunch is free so I can afford to spend a little.

Goodnite all.

Marie.

Teensybean
07-25-2003, 01:50 AM
Just a quickie, with a big Thank You, to all of you for the great support on the cardio thing. I don't think I will worry quite as much now. Everyone just kept saying "Lets wait and see what we find." You people have put me at ease. Now I am not as scared as I was!! Thanks again.

Lunch today--1 slice homemade WW bread, 4 oz Turkey Breast, 1 slice 2% cheddar, 2 tsp mustard, 1 leaf lettuce, 4.8 oz Red Pepper, 1/2 c zucchini.

Those darned old scales showed me down 2 pounds this morning....go figure. Why today, and not WIW?? Will check it out in the morning!!

Am very tired tonight, so will wish you all sweet dreams......

Pancho
07-25-2003, 12:07 PM
WOW, am I the first one on this morning? It's almost 8:00 here in Arizona; where is everyone at?????

We are going to stay close to home today. My daughter still has this cold. I am going to try to do a Tae-bo tape and a arm & ab video when my baby takes her nap; I hope she takes a long one.

I had a small bowl of cantaloupe early this morning, and just finished a Blue Bunny Yogurt w/ gram's granola. Not sure what's for lunch, but I am going to make Amy's Whole Wheat Pizza for dinner (found it at Sprout's Farmer's Market); can't wait to try it. We will have that with a big salad.

Gator: 3 miles; that's GREAT! Your menu looks awesome too. I assume you got your cable fixed, since you posted. I am glad to hear that your dad is doing alright. I'd love to see the butterfly pictures once developed.

Monet: One step at a time is the best way to get back on track; you'll be there soon.

heartmom: Sorry to hear about the weight gain. It sounds like you knew you were being naughty! Good luck getting back on track, and getting that nasty sugar out of your system.

beach: Good advice; this board is very motivating. I think I am more in line on Tuesdays (normally), knowing that weigh-in-Wed. is the following day. It is nice to be accountable; just like going to those Weight Watcher meetings. It's so great to hear that you try to find as much family time as you can in these crazy hectic times. I started crying the other night, and my husband asked me what was wrong. I told him that after this year (Kindergarten) that the school was going to have our daughter more hours out of the day than I will. It's is going to be very hard for me to be away from her for that long. I know a lot of people wish the summer away to get their kids back in school. I savour every minute of it (at least for now...Ha).

Sugar: Hello; glad to see you are popping in. You will learn so much by just reading the posts everyday. So, what kind of cheese did you have with your meat? I actually ate bacon and eggs for breakfast yesterday (the first time since going off Atkins, I think).

Well, everyone have a great day. I should be able to check in later since we will be homebodies today.

Take care.

GatorGal
07-25-2003, 01:04 PM
Hi everyone. I got my 3+ miles in today. Actually, the day started out with a "birth." Two of the butterflies emerged from their chrysalides and I took the cage out to the garden so if they decided to fly away while I was away, they wouldn't be caught on the porch. I took some pix with my 33mm camera and some with the digital. The difficulty with the digital is that it is very hard to tell if the pix is in focus or not. I did get one picture, which I took at the lowest resolution. But, even after I cropped it, it still is 199 KB. So I e-mailed it to Quilter and asked her if she could fiddle with the resolution and bring it down enough so it could be posted on the board. There are still 3 chrsalides that have not "hatched" and I expect them to do so tomorrow or Saturday. So more pictures. I am also raising some monarch butterfly larvae (caterpillars) which make beautiful chrysalides. I will try to get a picture of them, but it will be 1 or two weeks before the caterpillars pupate.

After all this--my walk and fussing with the butterflies, it was 10:30 before I had breakfast:
2 scrambled eggs, 1/4 C cottage cheese and 1 fresh peach.

The cable guy came this morning and hopefully fixed the modem. He said it was a loose connection. So, I hope I don't have any more problems.

sef
07-25-2003, 01:37 PM
HiedieHo All!

Still OP. Have been very busy. Have not deserted! Today is clean house day, do wash day, etc.

Will check in later when I have to take a rest.

Take care

Shirley

BOBatwork
07-25-2003, 02:11 PM
Here's my contribution to Friday Funnies:
Don't ya just love a smart ***!
Subject: Snappy Answers
Snappy Answer #1
A flight attendant was stationed at the departure gate to check tickets. As
a man approached, she extended her hand for the ticket, and he opened his
trench coat and flashed her. Without missing a beat she said,"Sir, I need to
see your ticket, not your stub."


Snappy Answer #2
A lady was picking through the frozen turkeys at the grocery store, but
couldn't find one big enough for her family. She asked a stock boy, "Do
these turkeys get any bigger?" The stock boy replied, "No ma'am, they're
dead."


Snappy Answer #3
The cop got out of his car and the kid who was stopped for speeding rolled
down his window. "I've been waiting for you all day," the cop said. The kid
replied, "Yeah, well I got here as fast as I could." When the cop finally
stopped laughing, he sent the kid on his way without a ticket.


Snappy Answer #4
A truck driver was driving along on the freeway. A sign comes up that reads
low bridge ahead." Before he knows it the bridge is right ahead of him and
he gets stuck under the bridge. Cars are backed up for miles. Finally, a
police car comes up. The cop gets out of his car and walks around to the
truck driver, puts his hands on his hips and says, "Got stuck, huh?" The
truck driver says, "No, I was delivering this bridge and ran out of gas."


..and finally #5, THE TEACHER Snappy Answer OF THE YEAR A college teacher
reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam. "Now class, I won't tolerate any
excuses for you not being here tomorrow. I might
consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury or illness, or a
death in your immediate family but that's it, no other excuses
whatsoever!" A smart-*** guy in the back of the room raised his hand and
asks, "What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete
and utter sexual exhaustion?" The entire class does its best to stifle their
laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher smiles
sympathetically at the
student, shakes her head, and sweetly says, "Well, I guess you'd have to
write the exam with your other hand."

Teensybean
07-25-2003, 04:43 PM
Well, ladies, I am going to call it official.....I am now at 168 instead of 170!! For two days now!!

Been really busy this morning. Mowing the lawn and trying to get everything watered good. We are burning up here!! We are leaving first thing in the morning for an overnighter. We go up to Ione every year for their "Down River Days" Just a very small town celebration... parade, booths for the kids, lots of food stands! ( I am taking my food with.)

Brant has a rodeo tonight that is under twenty miles away, so I am going with my sister who is visiting from Elko, Nev. We will take her two children and see if he can win again this year. He won 1st at this rodeo last year!! And most of his family was there to see it.

Question: how bad is it if I want to eat a couple of roasted beets? Ours in the garden will be ready soon, and I just want a taste.

Gotta get back to work. Will try and get in a few replies before I leave tonight!!

Pancho
07-25-2003, 05:34 PM
Just a quick F.Y.I. for those of you who don't mind eating splenda sweetened products, such as Blue Bunny ice cream and Blue Bunny yogurt.

If you go to www.splenda.com, at the bottom of the page it says Products Sweetened with Splenda Brand. If you click on that, it will show 6-8 featured products....but if you click on the "view a complete listing," you will get a 30-page listing of items sweetened with Splenda. I am excited to know that I can have a cup of hot cocoa this winter with my daughter (Swiss Miss Sugar free).

Anyway, check it out if you'd like.

Take care!

heartmom
07-25-2003, 05:51 PM
Well, I'm down, just a little though around a pound or a pound in a half. Wonder how long it will take to get the rest of these vacation pounds off... Anyway, for lunch I had Grilled Chicken Bacon Ranch salad from McDonald's and Diet coke. I bought some red grapes the other day- are they legal? They sure are sweet.

The Quilter
07-25-2003, 07:05 PM
Hello Everyone!!!

I survived my week with my college girlfriends. We call ourselves the Magnificent 7.1 (We were 7 but added one, so we had to change our version number.) It was great! I'm pooped. I ate like a food fool. I'll pay the price at that WW scale on Tuesday night.

I received a beautiful image from GATORGAL and I'm going to try and post it here. Cross your fingers!!! Here's the info that goes with the picture.


FROM GATORGAL:
This is a newly emerged Eastern Black Swallowtail butterfly, which has
been out of its chrysalis for about 10 minutes. It's wings are still
very soft and it is not capable of flight yet. It will rest and let
its wings harden for about 1-2 hours before it flies away. It has just
crawled out of the cage I built for raising the caterpillars and I
think it saw me with its compound eyes, because it crawled all over the
box away from my position. It's sister (or brother) also emerged about
10 minutes earlier, but is resting on a branch that is in the cage.
These butterflies lay their eggs on parsley, fennel, carrot or other
such plants, because that is what their larvae (caterpillars) love to
eat. I will post more pictures when I get my 35mm film developed.

THE BIG ORANGE BABE
07-25-2003, 07:07 PM
EVENING EVERY BUDDY!!! :wave:


Dark and stormy over here on the west coast of FLA....had a terrible storm already this afternoon with hail!

CHERYL....thanks for much for those links...I haven't look yet, but have opened both in two new windows to check them out.
It's hard, but I'm hoping for good results like I did two years ago.
Didn't have a bit of trouble...so keep your fingers crossed for me!