Fibro Thread #14

[Happy Canuk]

Just starting a new thread.

[MemeToo]

Hi gals...sorry y'all aren't feeling so good! To have had 3 Rugrats all weekend I'm doing pretty good! My leg is still killing me but the rest of the "fibro areas" are much better!

About the 5HTP...I got it from www.iherb.com (http://www.iherb.com) It was $17 (plus shipping) for a bottle of 60 100mg Vegicapsules. I was about out the first of the week and went to a health food store here and bought another bottle and had to pay $23.95 for a bottle. $26 tax and all. They're cheaper at iherb. I'm going to order two or three next time and save on the postage.

Hope you all feel better tomorrow.

MEME

[This message has been edited by MemeToo (edited 02-25-2001).]

[Ally0306]

Meme...I think I will order it from there too. I found that site...like how they have all those articles you can read.
How many mgs are you taking??
Oh ladies...what a food kinda weekend I have been having. I bought Brannola bread. Tastes like sawdust....but worked like a charm.
Don't know what diet I want to play with this week.
I am having winter blues....

[MemeToo]

Hi gals...had a good (but tiring) weekend. I'm sooooooo tired! I lost the 2 pounds I gained last week plus 1/2 so maybe I'm back on track. Sure hope so, I feel so much better when I'm losing. (Plus I need to get this weight off my knees.) My right knee is still killing me...it won't bend and when I do have to bend it it hurts so bad. Yesterday at church I had to keep straightening it out and rubbing it so I could get up and walk when it came time to play the organ. Getting up the steps to the stage is hard, too...especially when there are about three or four hundred people watching you!

Ally...I bought the 100mg. vegicaps and I am taking 3 a day most days. Sometimes I forget to take the one at noon! :confused: Don't know why I'm so forgetful nowadays...must be getting old! :eek: I don't take them with food or anything...I take one when I first get up and another at noon and then the last one at bedtime. Can't tell they are hurting my stomach or having any other side effects. I'm sleeping a little better and the fibro in my neck, shoulders, arms and back seems to be quite a bit better so I guess it is working. Something is! May be partly due to the diet and water, too. Whatever it is, I plan to keep doing what I'm doing! The leg pain is enough (plus the fibro pain I have from overdoing...why do I do that...and the migraines)!

The sun is shining today...it is supposed to get up to 55 degrees...but is supposed to rain tonight and then there is a chance of rain every day this week! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//crying.gif Do you all hurt worse when it is raining.

Good day to y'all!
MEME

[Ally0306]

Hey Tootie....I gotta believe that sugar has something to do with all these problems.
I didn't crave sugar til I got this. And geeeeeee, I didn't become overweight til I got this and started craving sugar. ANd today when I was bored at work I did my body Mass Index and it said "be careful". Said I should weigh between 133-147. I think that is bull.... I HOPE to weigh 150. Not for emaciated thinness, but because I feel that would be a healthy and achievable weight. ANd according to sone dumb scale....it is not enough. Close, but no cigar.
So...I put my kids in there....5'10" and 170lbs. It said "be careful".
No wonder we all obsess about this. My dream weight isn't even thin enough!!!
Meme.....this 5-HTP and lots of vitamins are the only things I am on right now and the aching is tolerable. I am going to stick to this too and I think I will add a dose at noon too.

[Happy Canuk]

Hi. Hope everyone is feeling wonderful today. Ally, don't believe those scales. No wonder people are anorexic or bulemic. They want all of us to fit into this little mold - but it doesn't work that way. I have now lost 15 pounds and I feel really good. Still have a few more to go before I will be even a little bit happy (lol).

Remember when you were young, all the women that were old then (45 and up) were sort of rotund women. Nobody looked like a stick and everybody enjoyed eating. I don't know if sugar plays a role or not. My one brother thrives on sugar and he is pushing 59 and has hardly ever been sick - with anything. My other brother never ate sugar, but thrived on high glycemic carbs (bread etc.) and he is diabetic, has heart trouble, underactive thyroid, manic depressive - you name it, he has it. Myself, I love sweets - I take after my Mom. I try to limit them, and when I do have them, they ALWAYS start me craving for more and more and more. But I have no major illness either - only arthritis and FM. The Specialist for arthritis, informed me that it is hereditary in part, and my grandmother was very, very, arthritic - so you see - I take after her. She also lived to be 96 years old, in fairly good health (she also ate sweets and anything else she wanted, she was under 5 ft. tall, had 7 kids, had Perth's disease (one leg shorter than the other) and always had towalk with canes. Geez, she even used to cut of a piece of raw hamburger and eat it. That is when they used to leave it to thaw on the counter - and she never got ill. Her heart was good, no diabetes, strokes, or anything else. Makes one wonder just what the heck causes us to be the way we are. I think a lot is genetic.


Meme - glad tohear that you are feelig better. My knees are also really sore - don't know if it is fibro or arthritis that is causing it at this moment. Or just from the lower back (that is usually the problem), They feel like they are swollen and hurt like heck if i try bend them.

Phyllis - Glad to hear that you are so nice and warm. We have had a cold front the past week going to 30 below during the night. The day time temps are are 4 above. We are due to have a Chinook starting tomorrow and we shall warm up to about 42 above. Sure hope it comes. We have had snow - not lots, just enough to shovel each day. We now have more snow that we have had all winter. Oh well, the farmers need the moisture and hopefully we will get the spring rains. This is not a drought area at all.

I think I would like the swimming pool and hot tub. Good for the old bones.

Candice - Hello and hope you are well.

Anne

[MemeToo]

What causes fibromyalgia? A lot of Drs., specialists and researchers think it is viral. The thesis is that you get some type of virus, infection or flu and get pretty sick with it, then you (seemingly) get over it but start having muscle aches and pains that you didn't have before...this eventually turns into...you guessed it...fibromyalgia! But you don't put the two things together because they seem totally unrelated at the time and then years later, when you are finally diagnosed, you forgot all about having the viral thing a week or so before you started hurting. Plus, the pain is so mild when it first starts most people can't put an actual TIME on when it first hit them.

And most physicians will agree that stress aggravates it big time. As for me...I think arthritis is inherited but I don't think fibro is. As far as I know no one in my family, immediate or otherwise has ever had it!

So there you have it ladies...my UNOFFICIAL opinion! :D

I'm so tired...not even been hungry today. Had to make myself eat a little! That would be nice every day!!! (but not being this tired)

[Happy Canuk]

Here is some reading for you. It is kind of interesting and certainly has a different slant to it. Let me know what you think of this.http://www.add-fibromyalgia.com/


Anne

[MemeToo]

Anne...I read it...that's not me! I don't have enough of the symptoms.

[Happy Canuk]

Hi Meme, me either. I only had one symptom in the whole thing. However, I do believe that perhaps the endoctrine glands play a huge role in this. That may be why the 5HTP works - the Serotonin bit.

[MemeToo]

You are probably right. We have problems sleeping and serotonin is supposed to help that. I have been sleeping better most nights. I still have an occasional night that I don't sleep but it has improved. The Neurontin that I'm taking for my migraines has also helped that. That may be one of the reasons I'm feeling so much better...

My right leg is hurting so bad I can't even bend it today. I've been on the couch all morning. It is so swollen. I think if the swelling would just go down it would be ok. The Rheumatologist told me last year that was why it hurts so bad...swells up and presses on the nerves in there. I wish I had never had the surgery on that knee. The only reason I had it in the first place is because evertime I would start to get up I'd have to straighten it out and pop it first before I could walk. But I think the surgery actually made it worse! :mad:

[Ally0306]

I have heard of people trying ritalin for Fibro but I don't feel a need to get all amped up. That's what happened when I took Wellbutrin and I didn't like it. I'm not ready to be moving at that pace.
I am testing out high Fiber this week. Just don't feel like getting completely into the diet mode. BUT, if you decide that you are going to focus on fiber...it is just like any other diet. All the good stuff does not have fiber in it. No chicken wings, no cheese. Here's the feedback so far.....lots of fiber gives you lots of gas!!!
I am back from the grocery store zonked. Legs muscles hurt Sooooo bad. Now I know why my thin vegetarian friend spends so much on groceries. That stuff in the health food aisle is expensive. So, now I have to think about peak grocery shopping times. Found that if I go after work I am starved and buy too much. On weekends, I run into people I don't want to see in my sweat pants. After dinner means I will get way too tired.
May have to get up at the crack of dawn.

[Happy Canuk]

A POSITIVE THOUGHT

If GOD had a refrigerator, your picture would be on it. If He had a wallet, your photo would be in it. He sends you flowers every spring and a sunrise every morning.
Whenever you want to talk, He'll listen.
He could live anywhere in the universe, and He chose your heart.
What about the Christmas gift He sent you in Bethlehem; not to mention that Friday at Calvary.
Face it, He's crazy about you.

Send this to the people you care about. I thought this was pretty special, just like you. Pass this on and
brighten someone's day, and remember:

God answers Knee-Mail!

[Happy Canuk]

Hi. Boy, it must be my time to hurt big time. My arms, legs and stuff in between sure are aching. The muscles are sore and my skin is sore. Was even tired this morning, for the first time in a long time. It could have something to do with the weather - going from 30 below to 54 above in the space of a day!!!!!! The chinook blew in and warmed everything up. Supposed to hang around for a few days, but we could also get snow. It sounds like spring outside today. Water running everywhere. But changing by 80 degrees is a lot and I think hard on the system.

Meme, I hope your knee gets better fast. I also get those sore, sore knees, can't bend them, and really hard going up and down the stairs. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to give this fm to a 'normal' just for a day or two - they would know how we feel all the time. They would think they were dying if they had this much pain at one time :D

Candice and Phyllis - Hello. What are you two up to. Are your computers not working? Would like to hear from you and hope your feeling ok.

Ally - Last night I blew it. I ate a muffin, and then another, and then craved carbs all night long. Just wasn't satisfied with anything - except sweet and salty things. Had a few Cashews, tried to be good, but failed miserably :mad I was really mad at myself, and then I thought, hey, life is way to short for this - just enjoy this night, so I did :D

I have been running around the house in sweats for the whole winter and I was starting to feel so blah! So, no more. I have started to wear pants (albeit a little baggy, because of current weight loss, but not that bad) and nice shirts and I feel a whole lot better. Size really doesn't matter. I know some really heavy people, who dress so nice and the weight is secondary. I believe it is all an attitude. Because we are not living up the 'poster girl' look, we all feel unattractive. I think if we change that attitude (and it will change, because the baby boomers are mostly not looking like the poster girl any longer) and just put on things we enjoy wearing, regardless of size, we will be happier. I have a cousin who has now refused to diet anymore. She is just a round little thing, but who cares. She seems to be comfortable with herself and that is the main thing. I think I don't want to waste my life by worrying about being a few pounds overweight. I am by no means obese, so I should be happy. I am probably doing more harm by dieting, because only such a small percent of the population keep it off - the rest gain it back, plus more. I know this is not encouraging, but if we are eating and are as healthy as we can be, then the weight really doesn't matter. If we get enough exercise and finally enjoy who we are, we will be ok.

You can play the drum roll now, I am finished. This was my soapbox for the day :D

Hope you all have a good one.

[MemeToo]

I agree with that philosophy to a point but if I don't get some of this weight off my knees I won't be walking very much longer!

When I lose, I always feel better. I think what I eat has a direct bearing on how I feel. The more sweets and junk I eat the more I hurt! The more salt I eat the worse I swell. If I eat a lot of protein and salad type foods, I have more energy and feel better...and I'm usually in a better mood, too.

I'm not going to stop trying to lose the rest of this 30 pounds I need to drop!

My knee is still killing me! I have to go to the Rhematologist in Nashville Monday. I doubt it will do any good! Probably a wasted trip...but at least I'll get to do a little shopping! :D

[MemeToo]

I have had a plastic "booster" on my toilet seat for years. Ever since I had my last knee surgery and couldn't get up! :D And I use the handicap ones in public places. People look at me kind of funny but that's their problem...it's just so much easier! I also have hand rails around my whirlpool and when we built this house I wanted a basement but hubby wouldn't build it without a "lift". He is a tool maker and he left a hole in the floor...made it into a little closet like...built a cage like thing with a motor in the attic and viola...a "lift". Of course, I have my mops and brooms on it so I don't use it! Too much trouble to take them off each time! I use it as a "walk through" to go from my bathroom to the kitchen! Oh, and the dog sleeps on it, too! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif But it is there for when I'm really bad. I mostly use it to take laundry and groceries up and down. My Rheumatologist gave me a lot of good tips. One of them was never to buy a car with a "button" on the door handle. My hands are really bad, esp. the thumbs. I would have never thought about this, though, if he hadn't told me to always buy one with pull door handles! I put most of the stuff I use regularly within easy reach in the cabinets and not down on the floor. I have a couple of different methods to open jars. I designed my kitchen myself (designed the whole house myself and even drew the plans) and I put everything close together so if I'm on crutches I don't have to do a lot of moving around to cook a meal, etc. Half the battle with this stuff is learning to live with it!

[Happy Canuk]

Hi. Meme you are absolutely right. Learning to live with it is half the battle. Making things easier on yourself. So many people just complain and don't think to move a thing, that would simplify their lives. I am an organizer by nature. My daughter is just like me. It isn't a hard thing for me to do at all. I keep everything picked up, and the house always looks neat and clean. It isn't always so clean I am afraid, because, as you know, some days it is just not possible to do some types of cleaning.

Phyllis - I haven't given up. I was just ranting yesterday - I guess I felt a little left out of eating all the good stuff at the baby shower on Sunday. Wouldn't admit it however, until that posting yesterday. I am back on track and doing fine. In fact I lost another pound, so that has to be a plus.

I went and got my hair done today. Really needed a hair cut. Hairdresser told me I have such healthy hair and it grows like a weed.

Bad news for me. My Chiropractor was in a car accident on the weekend and crushed his foot, broke his wrist and broke some bones in his chest. Still in the hospital. Made an appointment with a different one today - will go Monday and see him. I sure hope he is good - nobody will be as good as the sick one, however. Now I must also find a masseuse(?SP) to look after the FM. I hope this guy recovers fast, and I sure hope he doesn't develop FM from the accident. That sometimes happen.

The toilet - yes, I need to get a bar for the bathroom. Won't do it here, but will as soon as I move, if there isn't one in there. When my knees are bad I really need the help getting up. I also use the handicap washrooms, Meme. I don't care. It just says they are for handicapped persons, doesn't say nobody else can use them! Plus, somedays, I am just as handicapped as the next guy.

Well, I must go make supper. Where do you suppose Candice is? Puter problems perhaps. Ally will probably be back tonight, and Lucky, if you are lurking about, stop in and say hi.

[Happy Canuk]

Hey, where is Candice. Haven't heard from her for days. CANDICE, are you ok. e-mail me and let me know if your computer is down, or if you are not well.

Meme - hope you are feeling better today. My knees were so sore yesterday, could hardly stand it, now today, they seem much better. Go figure - I don't understand it.

Phyllis - Losing weight might help my knees, but because I believe it is a FM thing more than arthritis, I am not so sure. This pain that I have been having for the past few months is not the same as the pain I get when arthritis kicks in. It isn't in the same area of the knee. It certainly does seem to be more muscle related, and it could very well be coming from the back - it usually is. I went walking this morning and walked 2 miles and I feel great - full of energy.

Where is Ally? Has she also given up on us? Hi Ally in case you are reading the posts. Hope you are feeling ok.

I think spring is on the way - sure feels like it the last few days. Temperatures of 50-54 above zero. I am sure that we will also have a few cold days and more snow, but all in all this is terrific. Also, feel more dozy. Do this every spring.

Hope you all have less pain and great days.

[Ally0306]

Hi guys. I was mourning the loss of Doug Flutie for the Buffalo Bills. Also a sore throat and kids on the computer.
I was reading about eating disorders again today on the computer.
It said anyone who is constantly on a diet probably has an eating disorder.
And this being my FIBER week (toot)....can't wait to see what I'll do next week.
I want to get a new improved body image. And it is not just my thoughts about me. I got a Plus Woman catalog in the mail....like I want to see really fat women in bathing suits. I hate to say it, but I might buy one if a thin woman was in it cause I would tell myself I would look like that in it.
But when you see someone who is really obese in a bathing suit...there is no denial. It is not attractive.
How do I get that picture out of my head?
I didn't put that picture in there...society did. But, I don't know how to get it out.

And I use the handicapped stall at work. Once I put on Out Of Order sign on it to keep the riff raff out...but I like the higher seat and the bar. Once in the regular stall I almost took the toilet paper roll off the wall leaning on it.
At home, I have the bathtub.
Glad it is Friday. Can sleep late tomorrow.
Talk to you later

[Happy Canuk]

Boy, what a time getting back to here. Hope the rest of you get back here as well. I guess it will be better in the long run. They shouldn't make these changes with my poor feeble brain.

Anyway, hope you are all well. Post so we can start again, ok.

Ally - Doug Flutie played in Canada first. He was a member of the Calgary Stampeders, and everyone loved him.

Anne

[Happy Canuk]

Come back. It's lonely in here. I'm hurting - arms and legs. Went to new Chiro today so back feels better. I miss you guys.

[Candicej]

I'm still having puter problems until my son can get here on March 15th for his BD to fix it! So It takes too long to post anything cause I have to delete may cache everytime cuase the hard drive is full of internet stuff. My son says that is all I can do until he gets here to delete some files since it is his old computer.

My anxiety is back big time....I tied to clean some today but it made it worse.....wish I could down size but don't know where to begin..if I had girls or DIL's they could help but my sons aren't much help!LOL

What is up with the new time on this site? I haven't been to bed yet..didn't sleep good the night before either.

Anne..I couldn't take that weather you are having...hot to cold to hot!

Helloooooooooo gals!:)

[MemeToo]

Hi...I'm back finally! couldn't get in for several days. Didn't try yesterday or Sun. Had a shower to give on Sunday and went to Nashville to the Rheumatologist yesterday...was gone 13 hours and pooped last night when I got home. Then today I had Jenna and Ross...poor little fella has tonsillitis again. I will have them both again tomorrow...no rest for the weary!!!

I'm sorry...can't write more...gotta get some sleep. Maybe things will calm down here one of these days!!!

MEME

[Ally0306]

Hey Guys. I can't handle change. Had to get my password cause I forgot it. Then still couldn't get on and almost gave up.
How is everyone?
Why do they change things around? Don't they know we have brain fog????
I am still focusing on Fiber. At first I had a "clog" for several days, now can't stop.
ALso have been reading about digestive enzymes. Anyone take those?
I am taking a break from getting on the scale.
This isn't always good. I can gain weight this way. But until the weather is better, I don't need any more disappointments.
Talk to you later.....

[Happy Canuk]

This site is a bit different - more like Clouds. Ally, you should have no trouble manurvering around in here!

Ally - In answer to your question about digestive enzymes - I take a Papaya Enzyme, much the same as the Pineapple Enzyme (Bromelin)sp?. Supposed to help with arthritis. I take so much stuff, afraid to quit any of it in case it gets worse. It is liveable now, but don't want it to get into a worse state, so will keep taking all the stuff and keep adding more. Hate meds, so have to do something(lol)

Phyllis - I am sorry that you are hurting- again. Funny how this dd works, isn't it? Feel better for a day or two, and then wham, hits you someplace else. Not fair. My arm keeps being sore, off and on. If I use the computer to much, then it really aches. It is the muscle - I can put pressure on it and it throbs!

Candice - Sure hope you get your computer fixed - soon.
I miss you when you don't post. I do hope that the anxiety you were experiencing has lessened for you.

Meme - How in the world are you doing now. I know you said you were so tired. You are not supposed to shop till you drop! Hope you are catching up on much needed rest. After that flu you had, you must still be tired. takes a while to get back to 'normal' - whatever that is for us. The little one, hope he is better. My son had tonsillitis from the time he was 3 until they took his tonsils out when he was 6. Antibiotics non-stop. After his tonsil came out, the kid was never sick. Also, he was a bedwetter - sometimes 2-3 times a night. I blame this on the meds he had to take as he had tonsillitis almost constantly. The day his tonsills came out, was the last day he ever wet the bed, so ....

Anyway, all, I hope you have a nice day - spring is around the corner (although my corner can be much wider than some of yours). Doesn't usually arrive here until April, but after the mild winter it sure seems like it has arrived already. Snow is melting - it has been 54 above the last few days. Phyllis, quit your laughing 54 is warm for here. I know you are having 70 and that is just about the perfect temp. Can't stand the heat either. Don't have airconditioning, so then you just about die. A couple of summers ago, it got to 95 - 100 and I thought I was going to die. Stayed like that for over a week. Thank God the lake washere is all I can say!

Bye for now, Anne

[MemeToo]

I stay tired...don't know if it is getting over the flu or the meds or just doing to much and not getting enough sleep...or maybe a combination of everything...but it is not a good feeling. I had to teach until 8 tonight, Hubby is home again tomorrow...he is on 4 days a week...no work at the shop, I have to teach tomorrow night plus go to one of those stupid Pampered Chef parties at 6:30 (I'd skip it but it is at my D-I-L's). Then Sat. I will have to clean and get in groceries. Then I have church Sunday morning and night plus a "soup supper" at 4:30 and I have to making cabbage beef soup for that. Then Monday it starts all over again. Hey, I just realized that next week is Spring Break Week in Putnam County...that means I have the week off from teaching at night!!! Hooray! Well...all but Monday night. Have to teach Mon. to make up for missing when I went to Nashville this week. But...I'll take what I can get! I hate working until 8 at night. I'll be glad when baby Jenna gets in preschool. Then I can move my students up and get through earlier. Anybody got any good ideas on potty training? The preschool won't take her until she is potty trained. She likes to SIT on the potty but she just sits...doesn't do anything.

It is warmer here...up in the high 50s today. The trees are budding out. I need spring! It is cold tonight though, going down to 30, and supposed to only be in the 40s tomorrow. 70 is too cool for my liking...I like it better when it is in the upper 70s (and sunny)!

I was chosen as a Mystery Shopper for Shoneys...isn't that neat? I get to (or should I say HAVE to) eat there once a week for free! Just have to fill out an electronic form andsubmit it for each time I eat. They said the job could last from one to 9 months. I think it will be fun and we eat out 3 or 4 times a week anyway! (usually 4) I'm looking into "Mystery Shopping" for some other places. Some of them have you buy merchandise and then you get to keep it. And some just pay you a flat rate for "shopping" certain stores...even for just getting estimates for tires and such. (I really need another job, huh???) :D

Have a good weekend everyone!

MEME

[Candicej]

Well I am finally figuring out this new site..change and I don't get along well but I like it after I get used to it!:)

Meme.you do way too much already!

Anne..anxiety is not as bad today and I got to walk on the TM:D

Ally..I have been having bouts with my colon as well..hasn't happened in a long time but it is here now! I was walking the TM and had to run to the potty!!!!!!!!!:o

Toots..Lots is better....but we just have to get used to it with our Fibro fog :smug:

One more week untill my puter gets worked on!;)

[Candicej]

This is for you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smug:

[Ally0306]

How do you do all that image stuff??? I am so computer illiterate!!
And I got a note on my E-mail to say that Tootie had responded on this thread. That is kind of cool.
Meme...I want that eating job. Something I could be really, really good at.
I would like to be a restaurant critic but to be honest I don't want to eat at places with too many forks and where I can't pronounce anything.
I am still playing with fiber and thought I really hit pay dirt and...I got my period. That was why the flood gates opened.
I felt so nice and thin...and then realized it was just my period.
But, the more I read about this enzyme stuff and then about Candida yeast...I realize that my weight gain may have a lot to do with how I am just not digesting food well.
Well...I ran out to see Doug Flutie on TV. He's moving to San Diego ( and so are my loyalties) and now I forgot what everyone was talking about.
Well...I'm glad we are all back and talking and next time I will remember what it was I wanted to say...

[Happy Canuk]

Candice neat image. Next week I will ask where you went on this board to get it.

Ally - get the book called The Yeast Connection - excellent. Brain fog is caused by canididas (sp). Had a whole program I was on when I had it. Yeast in the blood stream. Will talk more about that next week.

Meme - Great job. I want it to. That is what mystery shoppers do. Is it hard work? I see ads for that all the time.

Phyllis - hope your well

Have a good weekend. Talk to you all on Monday. Going to Edmonton to babysit my granddaughter.

Anne

[Candicej]

If you are readng this don't post here....I started a new thread! :smug:

[tootie]

Hi guys!what is GMT? I thougt great mountain time: but what mountain?
Feel sooooo stupid AND tired. Was watching "it's as good as it gets" and in between a little dosing off, I missed key parts to the story so I "didn't get" it.
What was interesting is, that there are such people in neighborhood eating places, just like Jack Nicolson, and Helen Hunt, but they never look that glamourus.
In fact, in my daughters little soda fountain/cafe in Forest Hills NY, people come in by the clock and order stupid things day after day. Sometimes they don't show up and my daughter thinks they died or went to the hospital.
But I don't think you would want to make out with the one who displays compulsive behavior disorder. Usually, those guys don't look like Jack. They look like they can't dress themselves ie:their pants come up under their breast bone and their zippers are half undone.
Honest to God, the busboy saw one fellow {who is a retired Engineer and acted like Jack} pee-ing in the bathroom sink. At times, his brother comes in to have lunch with him and is a professor at NYU.{so go figure}
But not for all the tea in China would I want my lovely daughter to end up infatuated with the local gay artist or the retired excentric, even if he looked like Jack N and was situated with nice bucks.
Well a little humor here and there rather than telling you how bad my leg pain was last night!
Did any one of you guys get such pain that you left your shopping cart in line and walked out?
That's me last night and then no sleep.
happy sunday to all.

[Candicej]

Tootie...you can change your time...just go into profile click on edit options at the top and find the time then click the time zone you are in! That's it!

[tootie]

Hello ladies; I guess everybody is getting ready for the warmer weather or that school is off and you are too busy with the kiddies.
Being retired and living by my lonesome I guess I have more time on my hands.

Have been visiting the sugar busters site and I must say there were a few interesting postings , that either made me laugh or get hurt.
One fellow who sounds like he doesn't have a weight problem called the people over there members of a "cult" and indicated that to lose weight ALL you had to do was cut back on what you eat and presto you would lose weight. he referred to the "oink" syndrome as if all we did was ignore the ADA diet instructions and over eat on cookies and cake etc.

At first I thought HMMM, this is what a lot of people think about fat people or overweight people.So how to handle this for my own 2 cents worth. So I decided to have fun and you know what it was good for me. I didn't hurt anybody's feelings {I don't think} but to those I did I appologized and went on my weigh!!! pun!
Today is bright and sunny after such terrible storms all of yesterday that made me hurt all over this is nice.
need to get a life and get out.
not to easy to do this!
hope you are having fun with family.

[Happy Canuk]

Phyllis, we are on a new thread. #15. Go back to the board and get on it with us. I have been missing you and asking about you. Come over and catch up.

[MemeToo]

Hey Phyllis, if you can't find the new thread (I had trouble with this new forum!) scroll up to the top and click on "general", that will take you to the Main Forum List...click on Dieting With Health Problems and that will take you to Our Forum...then you can just click on Fibro thread #15. I liked it better when they were all in the pop up box at the bottom of the page!