Fibro Thread #12

[Candicej]

Hi :)

I'm sooooooo upset!!!!! I sent notes out in all my Christmas cards that my mom
has alhzeimers and family members should contact me..not her..if they have
family news. Well they didn't and my favorite uncle passed away and my whole
family missed it cause they called and told my mom to tell us all! She can sound
so normal on the phone sometimes that people think they can trust her with
info..that is why I sent my address and contact info to them all! Duh!!!!!!! Anyway I
have my cousins phone # so I will try to call her tonight to extend my sympathy
and explain things! It was not close enough for me to go, especially with this
weather but the rest of my family is much closer and would have gone! Enough of
that..just had to vent!




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Candice~the late night owl~

[Candicej]

Here is Ally's Post from the other thread we must have been posting at the same time!

never had a mother-in-law. My beloved's mother died of cancer when he was 20,
but I suspect that he needed another mother in me and that was part of our
problems.
Tootie, you sound like a sweetheart, but you KNOW...that is part of our
problems. We are driven people, but seemingly driven to put other's needs before
our own.
Best thing is confrontation. Sit down with your son and his wife and get things off
your chest.
Meme...glad for a nite without terrors. I used to pray for those myself.
And now I can't remember who posted last on the weight loss of 2lbs. But I am
envious. I have hit a plateau quicker than usual. I had so many cravings and
came uup with a theory.
When my son had the flu, I think my immune system went into double overtime
to keep my system as healthy as it can be. And you know our immune systems
are working double time as it is thanks to Fibromyalgia. And if you are burning
the midnight oil in your immune system your body THINKS it wants sugar. It
thinks it is starving from all this work it is doing.
Today I felt pretty good. A relaxed weekend. Found off sugar urges but ate Fritos
during the SuperBowl.
And I slept well.
So, I am not starving right now, but as soon as I get the aches, I immediately
want sugar.
What do you think?

[MemeToo]

Boy it is quiet in here...could hear a pin drop on carpet!

Windy here...blow you away nearly. Rained almost all day yesterday and chance again today and tomorrow...doesn't help this fibromyalgia and arthritis any!

Jenna slept in her bed again last night...but wouldn't sleep in her bed here for her nap yesterday. I'll try her again today...don't know what THAT is about. She is eating a little better...not much but we'll take what we can get. I was really worried about her last week. Tootie...she won't be 2 until next month. She still doesn't talk much so can't tell us what is wrong. Her daddy stayed home with her Sun. morning and when Paula called after church to see what he wanted her to bring home for lunch he said it took him most of the morning to figure out what tot tots were! (She was wanting Pop Tarts) http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif MEN! Most of them don't have a clue when it comes to kids! I'm just so happy she is eating something and sleeping now!

I'm still not over the crud...just tired all the time, too. My neck, shoulder and arm is killing me. But at least my knees are better.

Hope you are all feeling better...Candice...hope you are not still down. tootie...hope your wrist and all the other body parts you strained when you fell are healing. Happy and Ally...hope you are both doing better, too! Hang on a couple more months...spring is coming (I hope!)

[Happy Canuk]

Hi all. It is cooler here today. Had a bit of a sleet storm last night. Lasted about 1/2 hr. then was gone. Still above zero, but just barely.
Meme - is it still raining? I don't like it when it rains for days on end. Hate the cloudy weather. Here when it is cold, at least the sunshines. The cold can be looked after by warm clothes and warm houses, but for how much longer one wonders. Has your heating bill been high this winter? Is gas expensive?

Tootie - I sure hope you are feeling better and that the fall didn't damage anything else. Usually shakes you up pretty good, however, and things just hurt for a long time after. I hate it when I fall!

Candice - Did you get the rain or ice you were expecting? Or was it more snow. Something about the shovelling. Only had to shovel the walks a few times this winter - not me personally. Gave that up long ago, as throws my back out each and every time. Hubby gets the pleasure.

Ally - I seem to have a memory like a seive. Can't remember what you wrote. Thought I had that all down, but apparently not. How the heck are you? Hope your diet is continuing to go well. I am doing ok on the Formula and enjoy the meals, so am still motivated. I just hope it continues. I am now into week 3 and seems to be going ok.

Lucky - I sure don't know where you went. I hope that you are ok and have just left us for a short time.

The weather here is changing a bit, and I ache big time in my arms and legs. It is a funny thing, the arthritis seems to opposite the FM, keeping me in continuous pain. Meme, you know what I am talking about.

Take care ladies, and have a good evening.

[Ally0306]

I should sell out my body as a barometer. I layed in bed this morning and knew it was raining before I heard it. DIfferent ache than when it is snowing, and different than when it is freezing.

I have a friend at work also dieting and today we were talking about how we have been depriving ourselves of the amount of food we want almost all our lives. I think the only time I am not hungry, or thinking about food, or wishing I could have more food, or pretending that I am full when I could eat 5 more pieces of pizza is when.....I am in a new relationship and I am totally infatuated.

So, our new diet technique may have to do with singles bars.

HOwever, I can't drink anymore. I'm heavier than I've ever been and don't know if I can fake a "come hither" look.

I want the dieting effects of being in love, but don't want to turn into a Stepford Wife..."Why yes, please bring me your dirty laundry".

I remember the day my pregnancy was confirmed. I must've gained 10 pounds that day. A legitimate reason to eat for two. And when I found out I was having twins.....

I need to learn to desire less food. Got any ideas?

[Happy Canuk]

Hi Alley. I also could be a barameter. Make a **** good one too. The other afternoon my arms and legs started to ache for absolutely no reason. They really hurt, didn't even feel like being on this computer. That evening, around 8:00, a wind and sleet storm went barreling through. Lasted only 1/2 hr., and the pain was basically gone the next morning when I woke up. Weather is nice again. Heading for 42 above tomorrow. January went down in history here, as the warmest ever. I remember back 32 yrs. ago, January went down as the coldest month ever. Never got above zero once the whole month. That was the month I had my gallbladder removed, so at least I got to stay in out of the cold.

Now Alley. What is this about men? You want one? I think a goodly portion of the population would be glad to donate a man to you. Might not be exactly what you are looking for, but nontheless a male.

This might sound stupid, but I don't think you can replace "love" with food. I know that food fills a void, but when it comes right to it, we all(over) eat for different reasons. I also know that when we blah, we want nice creamy type foods - all the rich, dessert things. I am sitting here trying not to get up to make a cheesecake. It is, however, a recipe from The Formula, so it would be within my guidelines. Why are you hungry? Are you still zoning? What do you get to eat in a day. Maybe you are not eating enough. On The Formula I am not hungry, although, sometimes, I do get a craving for bread, but it leaves. I look forward to eating a Balance bar in the evening(snack), just because they are a bit sweet. I think you said you were afraid to eat them because they might trigger your carb. cravings. They don't do that to me. They are low glycemic (fructose) protein and fat, so you get the feeling of being satisfied with having something sweet.

Meme - are you ok? Not hearing much from you. No novels. I'm sorry, I thought Jenna was almost the same age as Ashley. When she was 1, boy she would scream when she had to lay down to sleep. I mean SCREAM. Have no idea what was wrong with her, and her mom just left her to cry to 10 min., then went into see her, and let her cry again for another 10 min. They worked on extending the time to 20 min. (That just about drove mom and dad crazy) and soon she just went to bed. Now no problems with going to bed at all. She hits bed by 8:00 p.m. and sleeps until 8:30 a.m., unless she has to go the babysitter, then she is up by 6:45 a.m. Hard life these little guys have, and you know, I can't remember if my kids did that or not.

I hope that you are over the flu. Sure don't want to get that going along with the other things, so hope everybody who is sick just stays away from me.

Phyllis - How ya doing? You ok. With web tv,(is that what you have?), can you get downloads from the net? I am not familiar with how that works, at all.

Candice - How are you doing? Still exercising? I am still walking, although my legs ache when I do. But I am starting (again) just slower. Walked for about 20 min. this morning and will go again on Friday. May increase to 25 min. Don't want to overdo it, or my knees will start that hurting again, and I am fed up with so much pain.

Are any of you watching the Survivor Part 2?

Well, hope some of you post tonight. Have a good evening.

[Ally0306]

Hi Happy....Quiet day here. Hard to get to any site tonight, must be everyone in my corner of the world is surfing tonight.
I read a book about personality types and found myself defined so well as a GIVER. I define myself by the relationships I am in. I would assume the loss of my most recent boyfriend has caused me some truama in terms of weight. I have had men in my life since I was a teenager who have helped define how much I could weigh. Without the need to stay slim and trim for my man, I am sort of at a loss. Like an uncaged dieter.
I think most of my life has been spent on a diet, a world of denial and deprivation. But the incentive was always the feedback and approval I got in relationships. Now, I am commiserating at work with other women in their mid forties...some still married, but the incentive no longer there. We are all getting sick of the deprivation factor. ****. The Zone is like any other diet....remove all those comfort foods and concentrate on healthy eating. The hunger is there....I have found myself making HUGE salads as though more lettuce will fill that hole. Today at lunch I thawed a bowl of Chicken Gumbo and ate it and went back to work satisfied. But also knowing that it was out of the Zone. It was warm and spicy and rich.
I think I have dieted my whole life for the approval of a man and now I don't know who I am anymore.... But I do know that what I see in the mirror scares me. I feel like I woke up and found myself middle aged and fat. How'd that happen?
I feel like I need an emotional carrot. If you lose 20lbs, you will find Mr. Right.
And I don't even know if I want a man.... I'm just starting to get to know myself. Don't want to blow that.
It's too early for PMS....but I feel like I have it.

[Happy Canuk]

Hi Alley. You sound so down on yourself today. You are who you are in your own right. You are a mother who loves her kids, and busy with work. It makes sense that you would want someone in your life, just for you. I, myself, have always been independent. I have also been lucky enough to be married to a wonderful man for 27 years. I have friends who are divorced and want to meet a man so badly that sometimes, I worry about them. Men are people to - they have the same hang-ups and fears as we do. You know the saying 'Once bitten twice shy", well that applies to both sexes. I am sure that you will meet Mr. Right - but not at the bar. Those are usually guys who want a one nighter.

Boy am I ever off on a tangent. Keep plugging along on something, and write your worst fears here - we will try look after you as best we can.

Take care, Alley.

[MemeToo]

I don't know who I am either and most days...I don't want to know!!! I look in the mirror and think...who are you? I usually define myself in relation to others...somebody's wife, somebody's mother, somebody's grandmother, somebody's teacher and on it goes. But who am I REALLY! Mind boggling questions, all!

I am a 53 year old woman (soon to be 54) with the crud/cold/virus/flu/whatever right now...thought it was gone but it came back. I'm tired of being sick and sick of being tired!

[Candicej]

Hello Ladies :)

I'm not getting much of anything done these days!LOL Pulled another all nighter and not to bed yet! What is up with that??????

Hope we all get to feeling better soon! :)

My son was here today to help with something on the computer and my brain is being dysfunctional!!!!!LOL http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif (I know..I know...nothing new!)

How can you all WRITE SOOOOOOO MUCH :p

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Candice~the late night owl~

[MemeToo]

Candice...it hasn't been so very long ago that YOU had a looong post!!! Did you forget that one? :D My brain has always been dysfunctional...

Jenna is back to her old self again. Eating and sleeping normally THANK GOD!!! And I mean that literally...I truly believe it is because of prayer! You wouldn't believe the turn around in that baby in the last few days. She is back to being her old sweet self...happy and content!

Now...if I could just get back to being MY old sweet self. The crud/whatever is some better. I have had a headache for 3 days now but it feels like it is finally backing off, too. So maybe I'm on the mend...with everything except the fibro and arthritis, anyway! The Drs. office called the other day and told me the blood tests I had done last week showed that my blood count is back down again...I could've told them that! Guess I need to load up on protein again...but all I've been craving lately is carbs!

Did any of you see Oprah's show Tues.? She had Dr. Phil (McGraw) on there and I've heard rave reviews on the show...was about facing issues on why you are overweight or something like that. He is supposed to tell you what to do to lose it next Tues. I missed this week...want to try to catch it next week, though.

How's everyone's diet going? Mine is going going gone! I'm back on track now, though. (I hope!) I haven't been able to exercise because of my knee, haven't been able to Oxycise because of my cough and haven't been able to focus on losing weight because of all the "stuff" going on around here...but...hopefully, I'M BACK! I'm going to try to Oxycise tonight, at least see if I can do it without coughing. I have Jenna, of course, plus I will have Ross (4) after preschool as my daughter has gone to Kentucky today, then daughter and hubby will both be coming in around 6 or 7 for dinner...and during all of this going on I have piano lessons scheduled! Don't know how I'm going to juggle it all and I may be too tired to do anything else but go to bed!

Hope I didn't write another "novel"!

MEME

[Ally0306]

Oh God, I almost tooted in my pants. That was a good one.
See, that is what I am scared of . Getting back out in the dating world and finding someone with his dicky in a sling.
I continue to read my book on Enneagrams. If I am a Giver, I should find someone who understands that I tend to lose myself into trying to figure out who THEY want me to be and that what I really, really want deep down is for the person to treat me like I am treating them.
In other words, all the giving I have done in past relationships is done for a reason. I'm not just a doormat. I want something in return and when I don't get it, I get manipulative and distant and I strike out on my own.
But as I spend this single time in rumination and I look in the mirror and try to figure out who I am....it's that old fat lady looking back at me that is driving me nuts. I wish I could look at her and find contentment, but I look at her and want to cringe.
I think I am going to try a different diet next week and try to peel off a few pounds. I get this way in diets when I feel like I am depriving myself of every food I love and am still not losing weight.
I have yo-yo dieters syndrome. I don't need much to keep me alive at this point. I have slowed my metabolism down to slug level.
Meme...I like that Dr. Phil too and if I remember I will tape Oprah next week (and that would mean I have to study the timing instructions starting right now). BUT, I like Dr. Phil cause he is a real guy, chubby and bald. If he knows why we gain weight and why we can't lose it and how to rectify that.......how come he is bald and chubby?
Ahhhhhhhh. He has gone beyond that. He likes himself the way he is.....

[Candicej]

Ok gals.....clean up your act! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif Leave it to the single gals to talk about the implants and things falling off!

Tootie..you could have pulled a Lorrane Bobbit!LOL

Meme..you tire me out just thinking about your plans! Glad Jenna is ok!

I have never written a loooooooong- loooooooong post!LOL


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Candice~the late night owl~

[Happy Canuk]

Hi Fibropals, How are you all doing today? We are having spring here, I think. It is 52 above and the sun is shining and it is an absolutely beautiful day. So far we have not had winter. It makes one feel good when it is like this. This is called a Chinook, a warm westerly wind (not gale, just a light wind). Unfortuneatley, lots of people have been known to commit suicide during Chinooks. They are most prevalent in Southern Alberta, but Central Alberta gets the tale end and we rejoice.

Candice dear - Tootie is single and so is Alley. Meme lives with Viagra Man and I am not sure about you - or me (lol)How are you feeling these days. I started walking and have been going twice a week to a gym to do so. To slippery outside, plus I get to have coffee :D Next week, if my knee holds up, I may increase it to 3 times a week. Also have been doing stretching exercises, but now my back hurts today. I have to remember to go slow (very,very,slow) with them or else I will not be walking at all next week.

Meme - Thank goodness Jenna is back to normal. How in the world do you do all that. If I have company for the weekend it takes me 2 days to get over it. I could sleep and sleep, and then midweek I wake up and feel not so bad.

Alley - I sure don't know what I would do if I got thrown back into the dating game. Probably nothing - I don't know if I could be bothered with that game again. Hopefully, I will never need to find out. My Dad died when he was 59 and my Mom was 58. She lived her life alone and happy and she passed away 1 month before her 82nd birthday. When she was 78 she had to go to a nursing home, as she had Alzheimers Disease, but until then she had tons of friends (lived in a seniors apartment, not retirement home) The only difference between this apartment and a normal one was that the rent was a lot less, and they checked on everyone everyday. Asked her why she never wanted to meet someone else, and she just said no, she would just compare them to your dad and that wouldn't be right.
So, I will probably be like my Mom.

Phyllis - Do they have senior apartments where you live. My Mom was 65 when she moved into one. She always felt safe and happy there.

Well another novel for poor Candice to read. http://www.arthritis.ca/programs%20and%20resources/news%20magazine/1988/fibrositis/default.asp?mode=static Hope this works. It is quite a good article on FM.

[Ally0306]

Happy Ground Hogs Day.....believe it or not this is my wedding anniversary. Makes sense.
I remember when I was making my final decision about whether or not I could make the marriage work. A marriage counselor told me that if the marriage continued it was because I was willing at accept that nothing would ever change. I continued at that pace for another two years, then called it quits. I remember single friends warning me that the single life ain't all that great. Too many women, too few decent men. And all men want to choose the prettiest, youngest. Not too many wanting to step into a ready made family. But I took my chances. Said being single was better than living in misery. Have to remember that. This was a choice I made voluntarily. I had a long term boyfriend, surprisingly....but he could not be relied on, he wanted to rely on me.
So...this void is something I wasn't prepared to fill.
I seem to be filling it with preoccupations of food.
I decided that tomorrow I am going to a dept store and am buying some jeans in a size that fit me. Too bad I can't trade all those size 12s in my closet. SOme weekends I choose to stay home cause I am only comfortable in my sweat pants.
I have got to get out of the house. Not in search of men, in search of me.
I think I am going to make a big pot of chicken soup. Eat that and salad next week. I do much better if the meal is all prescribed. No choices.
I have been tweaking and increasing my ZOne portions. I can see this as a lifestyle for eating, not for dieting though.
Have a nice weekend girls.

[MemeToo]

Hmmmm...."viagra man" must go to the pharmacy tomorrow for meds...asked me tonight if he needed to get his viagra filled...I said, "not for me!" He then said, "well...if I get it filled it will be for you!" I sweetly replied, "like I said, not for me!" :rolleyes: If something happens to him before it does to me I don't think I WANT another one! Maybe I'll turn Lesbian and find a woman who love to cook, clean and do laundry (but hates sex!!!)

I did GREAT today...and yesterday, too. I'm so glad to finally be back on track with everything. Jenna is eating and sleeping normally again and my crud/whatever is getting better and I feel like I just might be able to get back to the business of losing weight. At least it will be easier to focus on it anyway. Do any of you have an exercise ball? I bought one tonight...hubby and I tried it out a little after we got home...it was sooooo funny! We were "rolling" all over the living room! :rolleyes: I'm almost afraid to try using it when I'm home alone...afraid I'll be like the woman in the commercial: "I have fallen and I can't get up!" :eek: I also bought a Denise Austin Pilates/Yoga tape. I'm "watching" it now. It looks like I'm going to be able to do the first part of it...even with my bad knees...it is in two 20 minute segments. The second 20 minutes looks too hard, though. I can't believe I'm actually "excited" about exercising!!!! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//insane.gif

I'm planning another perfect day tomorrow. I'm making cabbage beef soup and going to try to learn some of the positions on that ball and do the first part of the new tape. Oooo, I'll be sooooo sore Sunday...hope I can still play the organ pedals! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif Actually, I know better than to try to do too much with MY body...I'm going to "ease" into these things. Just a little at a time! I don't want another set back!

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend!

MEME

[Candicej]

Hello :)

Glad I'm not out in the singles scene these days!

Meme...I have one of those big Swiss exercise balls ...is that wehat you are taliking about? Can't use it in fron of DH..he gets ideas! http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif

Hey if you find that woman who loves to cook, clean and hates sex ask if she has a sister!LOL ( just incase DH croaks) Lots of money would help too!

Anne..keep up the walking.how is the eating going?

Candice

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Candice~the late night owl~

[Ally0306]

OK girls. I actually have friends who have taken that walk on the wild side after relationships with men have ended so terribly. I refuse to even let them get too graphic in the sex dept, (curtains shut, my open minded nature shows only a film of Clint Eastwood in my head) but they talk about relationships as being the same old stuff. I know GIVER women who end up with BOSSY women. We GIVERS still do the laundry, shopping etc. Not the life for me....

If I am going to be a GIVER, I better end up with Clint Eastwood, or at least Bob Dole and his Viagra. I can't tell you how many married women tell me what you are saying. If they lost their beloved, there would be no search for a new man. My mother said the same thing when her man took off for Florida when she was in her mid fifties.

I just keep thinking I am too young to say nevermore.

I am giving myself a break before heading for a more restricitive diet, but it is cold, snowy and windy. Oh do I ache today. Terrible. ANd I don't have anything exciting to eat. Right now I have to have Oat bread and low fat ham. Isn't that funny???

I will hit the buttered popcorn before long.

[MemeToo]

Hmmm...twin Lesbians...now THAT just might be hard to find!

Ally...talk about Dole's viagra...have you taken a good look at ole' Clint lately? He'd probably have to have TWO!

Yes...that's the "ball" I'm talking about. MY hubby better not get any ideas...might have HIS dickey in a sling like tootie's hubbys!!!

Wouldn't we all have a "ball" if we could get together some weekend??? http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif

[Ally0306]

I know it was not in a sling, tootie. But if it is only for looks...what is the point??
And yes, Meme....Clint is showing his age BIG time, but that is where I feel I might get some feeling of superiority. He was quite a ladies man. I read Sondra Locke's book...The Good, the Bad and the Very Ugly. I don't feel sorry for her, tho. She can at least write a book and gain public sympathy and money for her effort. Who will read about me and my beloved who is ADD and my last boyfriend who also had an attention problem...he couldn't pay attention to just one woman?

How do you know if you are having a mid-life crisis? Does it have anything to do with not being able to sit down and settle down and constantly having to forage thru the fridge? That's been my weekend. Yesterday was Soooo cold and I ached in every muscle including my upper arms for some dumb reason. Today the weather is warmer and I walked my dog and slipped on melting ice. Almost did a Tootie.
I am cooking a witches diet brew of chicken soup. I am cleaning out the fridge(by eating everything) of all dangers.
I went fatty pants shopping and couldn't do it. I think I could probably fit nicely in a 16W. However, the jeans start at 22. Regular 16 look too tight.
I must find another store. Ya know...in the really expensive department stores, the clothes run so much bigger cause rich women can afford to pay more to make themselves "think" they are thinner.

[Candicej]

http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif

You gals are just too funny..I just about wet my pants!LOL

Just what we need Meme..a bossy woman!LOL NOT!

Dickey in a sling..sounds like a drink..no don't go there...that is Monica's thing!

Still eating on program and got a slow walk on the treadmill in today but no ball exercise!LOL Meme he really does like that ball! I could just see you and your DH rolling around the house on the ball!!!!!

I think you can find the original program somewhere on this site....I saw it once..but can't remember where!

Gotta get some http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//sleep.gif




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Candice~the late night owl~

[MemeToo]

Well...I lost 2 1/2 pounds last week. http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//spinning.gif It's about time I started down again! I actually lost more than that but last week the stupid scale said I'd gained a couple. I swear, sometimes I think that scale goes through mood swings!

As far as the thingie in a slingy...sounds like a dumb procedure to me. I mean, at least women who have breast implants can show off their new "flesh" under their clothes. If men show off under their clothes it just looks vulgar! ('course, I've seen some women's boobs that meet that criteria!!!) Tootie, just WHO was your hubby trying to impress anyway? :confused:

As for the rich, workaholic, lesbian twins, I've decided to just hire a housekeeper if something happens to my hubby before it does me. That way, I can boss her around and not have to worry about her looking at me funny! :eek:

Meme

[Happy Canuk]

Hi Fibromites. How is it hanging (lol). From the sounds of some of the posts, it needs a sling :D. Boy, what some people don't go through to try to reach perfection, and then find out - oh gee, we are still imperfect. I don't even bother - like being just the way I am. Had a busy weekend, so was not able to post, but I'm glad to see that the rest of you did. Was so nice out yesterday, went for a nice walk on the lake. This seems to confuse my granddaughter - the fact that the lake (all ice) is the same lake she plays in during the summer. I guess maybe this year she might put it together. Well guys I have lost a grand total of 11 pounds in the last 3 weeks. I love this diet - don't feel deprived at all, and my pot belly (which appeared about 4 years ago) is going down, down, down. I attribute that to the fact that I am not eating bread or really starchy foods (like potates, rice etc). I think those type of carbs really bloat me. So feeling really good, lots more energy as well. I am baking a cheese cake right now. I can have that for dessert or a snack - with a little fruit on it. Get to eat protein, but not tons, veggies, fruit - right now all the ones that are low to meduim on the glycemic scale. Also nuts which I love and cottage cheese etc. So I'm doing ok and happy that at last I have found SOMETHING that works.

Good going Meme. I hope that the loss was from dieting and not from being sick. Not so good to lose weight that way.

I used to co-own a mobile clothing store for Seniors and we would go to nursing home, auxillary hospitals and lodges. One little lady was looking and wanting to buy a dress. I asked her what size she was and she said she had been a size 22 but didn't know right now, because she had been sick and lost weight. Well, she hardly fit into a size 6. Needed that,only because her waist was a little thicker (you know, we all have that problem). I told her it was a good thing she didn't start out as size 6 or she might not be here right now. She laughed and agreed.

Meme - about all those clothes (size 10?) that you have in your closet. When you have lost enough weight, watch the waist. Lots of women (I was only in my early 40's then) 50+ have thickened waist's no matter how active. One of natures little jokes, I think.

Well Candice. If you don't have antivirus protection on your computer, you are smart not to open attachments. I have had that hahaha - snowwhite and the seven dwarfs-the real story - virus 3 times now. Norton picked it up and I got rid of them. Scary though - especially the first time. Never had a virus before and wasn't sure what to do, but followed the directions and lived through it just fine. The next time they appeared, my husband was in the mail, and said that hahaha thing is back, so we just deleted them and ran a virus scan and all was ok. Sorry if I forget and send you stuff with an attachment. Just ignore and delete.

Alley - What a gal. Metinks, you are actually full of highjinks. Eat everything good, and then get back at it. It is so hard to stay on anything when you are feeling down and hurting. That book that you are reading - it sounds kind of interesting. I think most fibromites are givers. However, not all givers get FM. My Mom was the most giving women on the planet. She just loved to help others, expecting nothing in return. I miss her terribly. It is 5 years ago on the 18 Feb. that she passed away, and I guess I always get kind of 'weepy' when I think about it. She was loved by all her kids, grandchildren (who she had a great relationship with ) and her friends and family. Oh well, nothing to be done about it - I guess I must be a big girl, but really, she was my best friend. Just listen to me, going on and on. Sorry.

Tootie are you feeling better. Are you at last getting the 'hang' of it (the cast, I mean).

Well keep warm, happy and pain free ladies.

[Ally0306]

Ouch, ouch, ouch. I am not on your weight loss wave. I am so jealous.
I am intelligent...I really am. But this need to lose this weight is becoming compulsive and overwhelming. I am falling into my old unhealthy habits because they are tried and true. Starve and one will lose a few pounds. I need to feel my belly going, down, down, down too. I need some immediate feedback or I get too angry over depriving myself and still not losing.
I am also smart enough to know that I have chiseled my metabolism down to where I need so few calories to survive. I used to go weeks and weeks eating just soup and a piece of fruit or a raw veggie. I lost weight but then would also hit a plateau where my body adjusted to that weight. And then I would start to eat a little more, would hit pig out stage and then starve again.
So when healthy eating doesn't make me thin...I hit the soup diets. Not that chicken soup isn't OK food....but if I only eat two bowls of soup and some raw veggies, I am going to become exhausted.
Mid life crisis. That's what it is.
No 16W isn't circus fat lady....but when I hit a size 12 I thought that was as big as I would ever allow myself to be.
It's perception, and I don't have a good one right now.
Happy......A GIVER doesn't do anything without wanting something in return. That's my problem. I never get what I want. A GIVER makes themselves into what they think another wants them to be.
That's why I might be having problems. I have let men tell me who I am. Without them, I'm trying to figure that out.
My mother gave unconditionally too. I used to think I did that...but HEll hath no fury like a woman who gives and gets diddly in return.

[Candicej]

Ok girls...Try this :)


What's your new name?????????
Sometimes when you have a stressful day or week, you
need some silliness
to break up the day. Here is your dose...

Follow the instructions to find your funny name.
The following is an excerpt from a children's book,
"Captain Underpants
and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants", by
Dave Pilkey. The
evil Professor forces everyone to assume new names...

Use the third (3rd) letter of your first name to
determine your NEW
first name:

a = stinky
b = lumpy
c = buttercup
d = gidget
e = crusty
f = greasy
g = fluffy
h = cheeseball
i = poopsie
j = chim-chim
k = flunky
l = booger
m = pinky
n = zippy
o = goober
p = doofus
q = slimy
r = loopy
s = snotty
t = falafel
u = dorkey
v = squeezit
w = oprah
x = skipper
y = dinky
z = zsa-zsa

Use the second (2nd) letter of your last name to
determine the first
half of your NEW last name:
a = diaper
b = toilet
c = giggle
d = bubble
e = monkey
f = barf
g = lizard
h = waffle
i = cootie
j = girdle
k = potty
l = liver
m = banana
n = rhino
o = burger
p = hamster
q = toad
r = gizzard
s = pizza
t = gerbil
u = chicken
v = pickle
w = chuckle
x = tofu
y = gorilla
z = stinker

Use the fourth (4th) letter of your last name to
determine the second
half of your NEW last name:
a = head
b = mouth
c = face
d = nose
e = tush
f = breath
g = pants
h = shorts
i = lips
j = honker
k = butt
l = brain
m = tushie
n = chunks
o = hiney
p = biscuits
q = toes
r = buns
s = fanny
t = sniffer
u = sprinkles
v = kisser
w = squirt
x = humperdinck
y = brains
z = juice

Thus, for example, George W. Bush's new name is
Goober Chickenshorts.

To be fair, we should publish Al Gore's new name,
too: Lumpy Burgertush.

Now...what is your new name?????? Mine is ZIPPY DIAPERSNIFFER http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif

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[tootie]

Dinky Diaperchunks!

[Happy Canuk]

OK Candice. Mine is ZIPPY COOTIESNIFFER.

[MemeToo]

Candice...I can't believe you did that...that was a v e r r r r y l o o o o o n g post! :D

You guys have way too much time on your hands!

I actually took time out of my busy day to figure out my "stupid" name! It is......

Are you ready???


OK...here it is...

Zippy Diapersquirt.
Can't believe we have the same first name and the first half of our last name. Wonder if we are kin!

OK...enough "fun" :rolleyes: for one day...gotta get back to work. Spent most of my morning telling my mom off...now have to work off some steam! She is killing me...slowly but surely! Plus...Jenna is having a "typical-terrible-two day"! So far she has emptied a whole box of kleenex all over my living room, torn up some books and turned over a lamp! I'm going to give her lunch and put her to bed!!!

MEME

P.S.

A friend of ours died from cancer yesterday. She was only in her 30s and left behind a teenage son who now has no one but his grandmother...his dad died from cancer last year! Their situation is so sad...the grandmother (who is a really good friend of mine) is also sick and on dialysis. You may remember me telling you about taking food to her house when she was sick before. She is raising 3 foster girls she adopted before she and her husband divorced. (long story!) The girls are all teenagers now, too...so she will have FOUR teens in the house and she is too sick to work! And I think I have it bad...makes me ashamed of myself when I think of how GOOD I actually DO have it!

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[Ally0306]

Oh my, did I have a chuckle. My name isn't as good as yours...Poopie monkeybuns.

And then I read your psot Meme. Guess I needed to hear that. I just sat here after arguing with my kids from the second I got home, it has become our standard way of life. I cried, my contacts are all cloudy. My kids are so used to this kind of banter that they don't even notice... I felt all sorry for myself...the burden of twins, teens at that.
And then I read your post about an orphaned teen and just want to cry.
Can't imagine it.
Wish I could give my kids perspective about how good they have it.
I assume these teen years are all part of the job. I used to just do things to avoid fights and arguments. Now, I am incensed. Enough. Not fair. I am too tired to be doing all this.

Well, enough self-pity....and thanks for the dose of reality Meme.

[MemeToo]

You're welcome Poopie monkeybuns http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//lol.gif

[Happy Canuk]

Zippy Diapersniffer, Zippy Diapersquirt, Dinky Diaperchunks, Poopy Monkeybuns - not one of them seems as awful as Zippy Cootiesniffer(lol). Well Candice, that was quite enlightening that is for sure.

Hope you ladies are all feeling well today. I made a New York Style Cheesecake the other day and it turned out pretty darn good. Made with lite creamcheese and lite whipped creamcheese. Supposed to use non-fat creamcheese, but that has never been approved in Canada, so had to improvise and use a little more fat. Not quite within the 40-30-30, but pretty close. Uses fructose for the sweetner and has non-fat sourcream in it. Was really good. Even my hubby likes it. Actually, he really likes my diet. Says it's like eating out everyday.

I did cheat this past weekend (1st time in 3 weeks) and went to the Dairy Queen and had a Skor Blizzard. Was surely worth it. Got back on track again, so no serious damage.

Candice, I was meaning to acknowlege your post about your family giving messages to your Mom. People used to do that with my Mom as well, and she would get everything so mixed up (past and present) that you never knew for sure what was happening. After you tell people, however, you would think they would get in touch with another family member, expecially in cases of death etc. I was pretty lucky, because my Aunt lived not to far from my Mom, and she always told us anything pretaining to our family.

Meme - Are you still stressed from the fighting with your Mom. That is something I don't ever remember having to deal with, thank goodness.

Phyllis - Didn't hear much from you yesterday. Hope you are feeling ok. Sure glad to hear about the car. FREEDOM !!! How is the arm doing, without the cast?

Alley - Hi. Hope that you are not hurting so badly.

Ladies I am posting a little "test" from the First magazine. I will tell you now that I am a type B personality. Let us post those as well as our new names.

This little quiz was in the First Magazine and I thought some of you might be interested. Have fun.

Like it or not, your personality affects your health, say scientists in the hot new field of psychoneuroimmunology, the study of how emotions affect the immune system.

Based on how people respond to stress, they've discovered three distinct personality types: Type A is impatient, aggressive and competitive, and has been linked to increased risk for heart disease. Type B's are more balanced and handle stress quite well. And Type C's suffer a great deal of discomfort trying to please others, often saying "yes" when they want to say "no". Type C's, psychoneuroimmunologists have discovered, are more prone to cancer.

But there is a second factor in the stress equation: whether we view situations as positive or negative. And, say the experts, to make stress work for you, it's necessary to change one - or both - of these factors, because Personality+Perception=Stress Response.

Take the test, then follow the strategy that's right for you.

DISCOVER YOUR STRESS PERSONALITY

To discover your personality type, write down the response that best describes you:

1. You've finally made it to the front of the checkout line, when a woman with only three items asks is she can go next. You say:

a. "no". You're in a hurry too.
b. "sure". What's a few more minutes wait.
c. "OK". You don't want people to think ill of you.

2. Your're in a very fancy and expensive restaurant where the waiter is obviously ignoring you. You:

a. loudly demand service, getting so angry you don't enjoy
your meal.
b. complain to the maitre d'
c. stew silently to avoid creating a scene.

3. At the dinner table, you have a tendency to:

a. eat fast and leave the table immediately.
b. enjoy the conversation and your meal
c. find your food has gotten cold because you've been waiting for the others.

4. In bed at night, you:

a. think about everything that went wrong that day.
b. drift off to sleep in a reasonable amount of time.
c. obsess over everything you have to do the following day.

5. You're driving down the highway on the way to work and another driver cuts you off. You:

a. honk your horn and curse at the other driver at the top of your lungs.
b. take a deep breath and feel grateful you didn't have an accident.
c. resolve never to drive in the fast lane again.


If you have mostly:
A's - you're Type A (aggressive).
B's - Congratulations! You're Type B (Coping well) and don't need to change your stress response.
C's - You're Type C(submissive)

Stess A Strategy - MASTER THE ART OF MEDITATION
It can reduce the risk of heart attack for TypeA personalities.

Researchers from the University of California found that sujects who meditated twice a day for 20 minutes decreased the thickness of their artery walls, a measure of heart disease. You can begin by meditating as little as five minutes twice daily, gradually increasing each session to 20 minutes or more:

1. Sit comfortably with your spine erect, feet flat on the floor. Inhale for a slow count of eight, hold for two, exhale for eight and hold for 2. Do this until your breathing becomes rhythmical.

2. When all the tension has left your body, you're "centered" and ready to intone your mantra, a word or phrase repeated over and over. Pick something that has meaning for you like "peace" or "love". Many people use "Om" the Hindu word for affirmation. Slowly repeat your mantra, over and over. When you feel a warm inner glow and no desire to think of anything else, you'll know you've reached the meditative state.

Stree C Strategy LEARN TO ASSET YOURSELF!
For Type C's, affirmations can lower the risk of cancer.

Experts believe that Type C's stress response - suppression, denial and avoidance - leads to a weakened immune system, lowering their natural resistance to cancer. Type C's must learn to assert themselves and affirmations can help. Once the subconscious accepts something, our conscious mind works to make it a reality. That's why affirmations are so powerful.

1. For the subconscious to accept an affirmation, relaxation is a requirement. Follow step 1 (Under Master the are of Meditation - A type above), but instead of using a mantra, slowly repeat your affirmation (a sentence stating your goal) over and over.

2. To be effective, affirmations must be personal, positive, and present tense. Don't say: "Others should stop taking advantage of me". "I will not let others take advantage of me" or " I will stop people from taking advantage of me. Instead, tell your subconsious: "I stand up for myself". For quick results, practice your affirmations twice a day - each morning and night.

[MemeToo]

Zippy Diapersquirt here...TYPE C...on the way to becoming a B! I KNOW I need to be more assertive and as you all know...I've been working on it!

My cold has gone down into my chest. Didn't sleep much last night for coughing. I spent all morning cooking for the family of the girl who died. You wouldn't believe all the food I made. I had to have it at the church by 11 a.m...just barely made it. I took a 5 qt. pot of creamed potatoes, 2 1/2 qt. cassarole of green beans and the same of mac. & cheese, a 3 qt. spaghetti cassarole and 2 pies. Plus, I put enough of all that back for our dinner tonight and put chicken in the crock pot to BBQ. Now I have to go clean up my kitchen and go BACK to town and buy stuff for a Valentine's Party Sat. night. Was too pooped to go while I was out. Had to come home a rest a little first. I'd wait until tomorrow but it is supposed to rain big time...probably why I'm hurting so bad!

What do you mean "am I STILL stressed about my mom?" I STAY stressed about something all the time!!! :eek: My back and legs are killing me...don't know how I'm going to make it through the rest of this day. Supposed to buy candles and party goods, have lunch with daughter, finish dinner and go to the funeral home...plus I have baby Jenna! My life makes me tired just thinking about it...I need a vacation!

Later!

MEME

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[Candicej]

Zippy Diaper Sniffer here!LOL

Ally....I like Poopie Monkey buns....as a name that is!LOL Wouldn't want them!

Anne...some of those questions depends on the circumstances!!!!!But I'm a combination of A and C and don't see anything changing!

Meme...I thought for sure you were and A!!!!!

Phyllis...My DH sells Chrysler!

What do you all use for Computer Virus's?????

We have three Zippy's here!LOL Zippy is not how I would describe myself..snippy maybe! :D

Got a headache and had trouble getting into this thread again! :mad: Had my hair trimmed today too and she used too much hairspray and the smell is bothering me! Also very rainy and damp and a cold front pushing through.

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[Candicej]

Meme Starting a new thread...this one is 2 pages!!!!!!!!!! :)


http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//sick.gif :eek: http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//dizzy.gif :mad: http://www.3fatchicks.com/ubb//umm.gif :D

Mixed Feelings!!!!!!LOL

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