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Old 04-13-2014, 08:50 AM   #16
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http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/...cate-shanahan/

Here is a podcast I just came across making similar points. So there is a growing movement saying not that calories don't matter. But they are not going to help you or at best many will have short term success only until you get other things right first. Not asking anyone to accept it, just providing resources.