Kaplods Thanks for the tvp suggestions. For years I have been buying yves just like ground. Even on sale this is much more expensive then tvp and has much more sodium. I saw Bob's tvp on sale for 2 something and got one pack. Now to make it and figure out how to get a similar texture to the just like ground. I will try on it's own as I do not eat much meat anyway.
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