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Old 12-26-2009, 08:06 PM   #31  
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Lamb, I was jumping around the different threads and saw that you ran four miles...that is just fantastic!! I have been saying for quite some time that I should start running again, but 1) I do not get to the gym much, 2) I don't walk outside with a friend like I used to, and 3) I feel like I wouldn't be able to propel myself! I do know its do-able...how did you start?

I will try to go to an exercise class tomorrow, one that I really like. It starts at 8:15, so I'm hoping to have had my 2 cups of coffee before!!

Enjoy the rest of your weekend, everyone!
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Chubster, boredom eating is a biggie for me. If I'm bored I always come to the stupid conclusion that food will entertain me. I wish I could unlearn that response.

What I learned this Christmas - I'm nearly at my goal and I have just discovered that, although I have good habits, the old ones are strong and insistent. I hate to say I've realized in the last 24 hours that I will always be having a fight in my mind to be good. I snuck a white chocolate pretzel this afternoon when no one was looking. Heavens, what was that about??? So the cals are logged but still, it was so much of my old habits but there it was again. That actually was pretty depressing.

Pres, 1 pound versus 7 pounds. That is beyond awesome. You did great and it is not easy. Food this time of year is around every corner.

Newleaf, I think it's neat about your family's holiday arrangements. Soulds like a perfect solution. Ebay last minutes - I use esnipe. I love esnipe. Only once did their servers fail on an auction about 3 years ago. It's very cheap to use.

Lamb, I'm not a betting person but I'd bet that it was the boredom not the sugar. Alas we're on the 40s board, so there are at least 40 years of food entertaining us to try to undo. I know I'm not succeeding at that. I just keep fighting it and I'm figuring that's all I can do.

Petra, outlet shopping sounds fun. I wish I could join you. I haven't seen NJ in 2 decades. I was born there. Last time I was there was at Atlantic City and swam along the boardwalk (as I said, not a gambler). It sounds like you got the perfect book.

Helmet - I do wear, nearly always. But (are you all sitting down) my helmet doesn't match my new ski outfit. I know, stupid... I will be wearing it from now on because DD gets tired way before me. When she does, that's when I'm set free on the slopes and when I'm in danger. I'm with Petra that my brain is too valuable to waste. I just know on the bunny slopes, if I fall it will be going at tortoise speeds. I just went up to hare speeds on Thursday and that's when I felt so guilty because of my promise. The promise was made while biking as I was flying over the handlebars. I'd tucked my head to my right shoulder and rolled toward me left to protect my head. Up until the bunny slopes, I'd kept the promise. BTW, DH said he'd paint my helmet again if I bought more pink pain (He'd sprayed it the first time from black to light pink. Now it needs hot pink).

We snowshoed at Crater Lake today and it was gorgeous as usual. I didn't post pics since it looks like the last set from November. My elliptical is angry, making noises. DH will look at it after DD and DGS leave tomorrow. I figure if it is out of commission, I'm going to call gyms in town and see where I can get a 30 day membership while it is repaired. Or I'll wear it out (still under warranty) until my surgery and have it out of commission while I'm off exercise for 6 weeks. I think it's entertaining that I've mapped that all out. Couch potato was one old habit I was able to break with success. Four years of being an exercise maniac hasn't let up. So is there hope for boredom eating????

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chubster, since I'm prediabetic and the weight loss is really not happening I would love to check out the plan you're following. I need to really find a plan to get this weight moving and get back into the gym. tired of standing still!
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WLW...here it is in general, and then tomorrow I can give more details if you need it:

Baiscally its 5 small meals (B, L, D and 2 snacks) a day. Do not let more than 5 hours go between eating...its to keep the metabolism burning. Drink lots of water. For the first 2 weeks, no starches or grains. I told the nutritionist that I could not give up my glass of wine, so he's allowing 1-2 glasses a night, no more than 4 nights a week...pretty generous, I thought. Also, he is giving me 2 meals a week to eat whatever I want.

Each meal or snack consists of protein, carb (being fruit or veggie) and a little fat. Portions are what most people consider normal, and so far they have left me full but not stuffed. Also, I find by the time 3 hours have gone by I am hungry for my next meal. I've been drinking lots of Crystal Light with extra lemon juice (learned from my Diet Center days) to keep my belly full.

Proteins are lean meats, egg whites, tofu, low fat dairy.
Carbs are fruits and veggies, though nothing with a lot of sugar.
Fats are good oils, nuts, flax seed. A serving of oil is 6 peanuts, literally!! That was a shock to me. Otherwise, 1 tsp of oil...I'm sure you know the ropes!

He wants me to do 30 minutes of cardio 5x a week...so far I have not done that. Also, weight training 2x week.

Any other questions, let me know...I'll post tomorrow.
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Well whatever calories I saved yesterday I made up for today. I'm down here at the beach to celebrate Christmas with my brother-in-laws family which is huge. He is one of 8 children. They have this huge dinner, and a gift exchange and lots of alcohol. I stopped at one glass of wine as usual but I did my bet to estimate calories for today and this is the only day all month I have gone over 2000 calories! YIKES. As long as it's the only day I do that, I guess we are okay. As usual, I skipped dessert. They had a cheese tray as an alternative and I had a few samples from that instead. Nice alternative but not good on the calories.

I think my over eating is a mixture of emotional/boredom and true sugar addiction. Something truly bizarre happens with me and sugar that I almost can't explain. It is almost like my brain has been hijaked. I have to say, I did pretty good with that dark chocolate bar but in general, I avoid it. I've been down that path enough to know where it leads and I think I'm kind of making peace with that. I really don't feel like I'm depriving myself anymore. It's just an acceptance. I do also find that I eat out of boredom and have to watch that as well. I guess we all have that problem.

Newleaf-I have a strange situation too. You know I was not raised by my biological family. My biological father was Jewish so I have a VERY Jewish last name. In fact, I have never met anyone else with my last name who is not Jewish. I didn't ever know my biological father very well so I didn't know much about that part of my family. After he died, I became kind of interested in learning more about it. Visited the synagogue a few times, did a lot of reading. Nice you get to celebrate both holidays though-no Chinese restaurant and a movie for you today.
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I think my over eating is a mixture of emotional/boredom and true sugar addiction. Something truly bizarre happens with me and sugar that I almost can't explain. It is almost like my brain has been hijaked.


Petra...me too...same exact thing!! Brain has been hijacked. What is that?? I can never talk myself out of bingeing. Have you had any success in controlling it? Alas, I have not....
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Chubster-the only thing I have found that works is abstinence. Just like alcoholics. I just don't start cause I know where it leads. I have literally eaten an entire package of oreos in one sitting before. There is nothing else that I will eat like that-not salty things (like chips), not fast food, and I don't otherwise have an addictive bone in my body. I have rarely been drunk in my life, I've never used drugs. I do go to the casinos near where I live occasionally but I decide in advance how much money I'm willing to spend, take that with me in cash and once I'm done, I leave. It is only sugar but once I start-look out. It may be weeks before I can get myself back under control. Sugar has sabotaged every single attempt I have made at successful weight loss. I know that abstinence is a major key to my success. If I really want this, I have to let it go.
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New Leaf- interesting background. My son's friend celebrates both - a divorce, so one side celebrates one way, the other celebrates the other way!

Maggie- sorry you haven't been feeling well. Sounds like you're feeling better - good news.

Chubster - c25k.com or the c25k program can be found on CoolRunning.com - it starts you off as a non-runner and you gradually increase - it's a run/walk program until you're fully running. You can also just do a walking program Good luck to you. I'm training for my first 1/2 marathon (13 miles) in March - so now i'm on a program out of a book called "Marathoning for Mortals"

Marie- that's great that you've made such a big change in your exercise patterns over the years, and I've never snow shoed before - does the snow crunch under your feet? is it like hiking, or how does it feel, since your "shoes" are much bigger - do you have to walk differently?

Petra- i know that addiction...it's as numbing and soothing as taking drugs..sugar/chocolate...kay sheppard has two great books on food addiction, and there's a book called Eating in the LIght of the Moon that was very helpful to me -over the years. Just as some struggle with things like alcohol, i'm like that with sugar/some starches too...literally can pacify by body and mind, and sooth shaking hands, etc. My problem is like many addicts, it's easy to trade one addiction for another - for me if i wasn't eating, i was shopping to heal feelings --if i didn't shop, i'd eat -- like therapy almost. I don't do drugs, and I drink about 2 drinks a YEAR - food was always just my drug of choice.
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The lonely thing....it's funny because i'm alone during the day often, and love it. I guess my brain puts a bigger significance on the holiday. Thankfully all those feelings have passed and I didn't cave at all, which i'm proud of. That's a big change for me -- and I'm grateful i'm relearning to deal with my feelings - by NOT using food as the answer.

Feel back to myself and happy. Did a 2.5 mile run on Christmas night, since it was on my schedule...tomorrow have a 2.5, and Wednesday my long run bumps from 4 to 5 miles now. Nervous, but I'll do my best..it's all I can ask of my body.
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PresMaggie – I’m sorry that you haven’t been feeling well, and extra busy to boot! Hopefully the nice weather was a boost… Up 1 over the holidays is not a big deal, you have done great!

Chubster – Glad you’ve found us… I work from home, too, so I know the lure of the kitchen! Probably recommitting to exercise is key. At least for me, if I’m not exercising, I’m not losing. It’s not just the extra calories that exercising burns, but also just the whole mental mindset that exercising puts me in. It sounds like you have a great plan; you’re on your way! How was your exercise class this morning?? I was still snoozing at 8:15am…

Marie – I’m right there with you. I feel like I will always be fighting this battle. But I also think that it’s the acceptance of that fact that has enabled me to stick with it, rather than just giving in. Your exercise tales are always so inspiring; you have truly made a new life for yourself! When I was a kid, I used to have to wear snowshoes to hike over the hill to feed my pony, which we kept at the neighbor’s barn. So we did it out of necessity, not fun. But I do have memories of it. I can’t decide if they are fond memories or not! LOL! I seem to remember being cold and crying. Which sort of defines all my childhood memories of being outside in the winter. Hmm, is it any wonder that I like to stay in as an adult??

Petra – It’s all a balancing act; it sounds like you have done great overall with all the holiday temptations! I’m with you on the sugar addiction; junky sugary candy is my downfall. I feel it calling to me as I walk through stores. I have to forcibly tell myself no. Because like you, I know where it leads. I’m still living with where it led after having a miserable “Halloween season”. I think this predates your arrival on this forum, but I had gotten down to 160, but more reliably 163, and here I sit, 10 pounds heavier thanks to the Halloween derailment that I allowed myself. Ugh. Interesting about the Jewish history in your family… it sounds like you have a wonderful approach to your blended histories, blended families…

LambChop – it sounds like you have really stuck to it through the holidays! You are doing so well with your running… I’m so excited for you to do that ½ Marathon; imagine how great that will feel!!

Me – nothing to new to report. I did 20 min. on the stairmaster yesterday, which was a goal to get to. I am working up to 40 min on it, and then will start increasing intensity of the programs and levels that I choose. I really think this will be my best friend for hauling my butt out of the canyon in October. I’m doing a total of 40 min. of cardio, making up the remaining minutes on the treadmill. Once I get to 40 min. on the stairmaster, then I’ll start alternating with endurance building on the elliptical. I really do enjoy having an exercise “reward” that I’m working toward (ie, the canyon hike).

I did well on food yesterday, and my weight is down a little bit. I’m working hard to make this a good week and to start the New Year on the right foot.
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Newleaf, I’m chuckling at the concept off hauling your butt out of the canyon. Nothing like a big goal, huh? And I know what you mean about childhood memories and the outdoor winters. I’m petrified of frozen water in the winter. I lived on a lake and my parents thought it was FUN to ice skate and cross country ski on the frozen lake. To this day I’m terrified of frozen bodies of water. I got into snowshoeing for the beauty of Crater Lake and now I just love it. I found my hatred of winter has diminished by having skiing and snowshoeing in my life. If I didn’t, I used to hibernate all winter and was miserable.

Lamb, snowshoeing is quite a bit harder than walking. You have the weight of the shoes and the deep powder. The snow doesn’t crunch unless is it crusty on top and you bust through. Shoeing uses about twice as many calories. I bought women’s snowshoes that are designed for a woman’s hips. It was a great investment as I walk very normal.

Petra, one higher cal day isn’t a problem – ever. The problem stems when it creates a day after day train wreck. When I realized I could get back on track, I’m not nearly as fearful of going off for a day.

Chubster, you sound like you have a good, well balanced plan. Now just get on the exercise wagon and you will be set. Exercise is the only really easy part of my lifestyle. I love it – it enabled me (as well as other psychiatrist recommended non-drug changes) to get off all my bipolar meds except a ¼ dose of one. How amazing is that? I truly don’t exercise for weight loss. I do it for my mental health. That’s why I’m up to four years of exercise and only 15 months of weight loss.


WLW, you can get the ticker moving. As everyone says, if I can do it, anyone can. I have a nearly dead metabolism. I’d long ago given up losing weight. But I decided I had to be healthy, that I loved life too much to stay fat. I didn’t like getting old and no longer being able to ski, rollerblade, snowshoe, hike, etc. So my logic said I couldn’t stop the clock of getting older but I could fight like he!! To get rid of the fat. So if I can do it, I know you can too.

I am ready for my company to leave. I love DD and DGS but the custody fight has changed DGS and not for the better. The mother has no concept of discipline and he’s become an arrogant, fearful 3.9 year old. It’s odd. Because DD only gets him occasionally, she doesn’t want to spend any of the time upsetting him because she can’t undo what the mother is doing 99% of the time. So DD is depressed because she has so little control and can see the future as it pertains to her son. Basically it’s too much drama for me. It’s depressing and depressing means I want to munch. So I need everyone to go home. Most of the time was really wonderful but the undercurrents can’t be ignored. So I want to share one of the mother’s lovely doings – she told DGS that sledding is scary and dangerous. So yesterday’s sledding/snowshoeing adventure was a bust. He’s scared of snow and water in his face because she insists it is wrong. So as I said, he’s become fearful of normal things. How I’d like the judge to spend a day with this precious child that’s on a path to mental fragility. Also DGS says mommy yells at him a lot. OK, enough of my frustrations. Watching a train wreck is very sad.



And tomorrow I have to go back to work for 2 days.


On a happy note, DS and soon to be DIL are getting married on Thursday in Tahoe. That will be wonderful and great! Plus I get to ski for 2 days.


Time to make waffles for DGS as his mommy doesn’t know how and it’s his favorite food.

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I'm glad to read everyone is doing great and moving forward on their goals! (((HUGS))) to all that need it!

Hope you all had a great Christmas/Hanukkah/Festivus/whatever you celebrate season!

Can you all believe that the new year is right around the corner?

I think we are all finally healthy in this household. Well, wait, the husband just said his throat is very sore.

I've been debating cutting down on my carbs.. I've never really done anything like that before. I'm a calorie counter but have noticed lately that the on the days I eat too many carbs I go out of control crazy person eating! Anyone have any input on that? Maybe I need to make sure I eat protein with every meal?
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Marie, that just sucks, watching your DGS going off in a direction you don't like and having so little influence on the process... I'm sure that is very, very difficult...

Cassieroll, I have no input on carbs; that's not something I've ever watched, but I'm sure you'll get some great advice by people in the know! I'm glad to hear you're all feeling better. Hopefully DH's throat will feel better soon!

I'm working on cleaning the first floor of the house today. DH and the boys went to NC for the Pitt bowl game and are driving home today. I know it will make my DH really happy if the house is clean... So... the living room, kitchen, and dining room are done, the laundry is all folded, the oven is in the process of cleaning itself. I'm planning to have lunch, clean the bathroom and the mudroom. Then vacuum. We won't talk about the office; it's a mess. But the door closes really nicely
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Marie-I'm confused. Isn't your dear daughter, your dear grandson's mother? Who are you referring to? I really view this whole weight loss/maintenance process much like staying sober since we are talking about addiction today-I will be in recovery the rest of my life. Like they say in AA-your always just 1 drink away or for us 1 cookie away or 1 meal away or whatever it takes to derail you.

Cassie-I low carbed for over a year and lost 65 lbs. I followed a program called protein power. It is actually the longest I have ever stayed on anything and the most successful I ever was at weight loss but it is difficult to low carb forever. I actually know quite a bit about it including details about several different programs if I can answer any specific questions. I do have my biases though and I'm not a big fan of Atkins. Not because its not a good diet plan but because people tend to approach it as "a quick way to lose weight" and not as a lifestyle and nothing will work unless you adopt it as a lifestyle. I started my regaining my 65 lbs after eating a chocolate chip cookie at the mall (see my comments above). I still remember eating that cookie. Wasn't worth it.

Heidi-you can come clean my house when your done

I'm enjoying my book but I don't think I will ever look at food quite the same way again. It will definately discourage me from eating fast food which I don't do now anyway.
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Petra, ah so you caught the deviation from the normal... DD was born my DS1. She is biologically DGS's father. The change was completed this past year, surprisingly at her ex-partner's urging about 4 months before she took off with their son. So far the court/judge has been very supportive of my DD and not of the ex, but hasn't made any changes to who currently has custody (ex). So now it's a battle and it shouldn't be. DD wanted to split amicably and the ex's family is acidic and pushed for a nasty fight. So now we live with the repercussions.

About never eating fast food/ processed foods or whatever - about three years ago I started paying attention to all the dire warnings and realized that it wasn't even safe to breath in. So I went for the ostrich approach and don't pay attention to the gloom. I do know what foods make me feel mentally healthier so I choose those. Apparently not this weekend as the garbage inhabiting my house is too much temptation. Everyone leaves in 3 hours - and the garbage goes to the street, carrying all the bad food. DH won't be happy with that but he'd lost 10 pounds and perhaps he might thank me...

BTW, he thinks the maintenance cleaning and lube on my elliptical fixed it. If not, it still has 1.25 years in home service so I'm much happier about it now. DH and I escaped for an hour and took the doggies on a 3 mile hike. That was really nice.

Cassie, I'm not a low carber either - just counting calories. Like Petra said, low carb isn't something I could do for life so I needed to lose weight eating what I like but in moderation.

Newleaf, thanks for the graphic word. You made my whole face smile, not just the mouth. It does suck. Not to mention that the closing door comment. You are quite entertaining and I adore you.

So now that the facts are out about my family, here's a link to my blog and the Christmas picture we just took. http://apps.mariesdogs.com/blog/

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I hope you'll all forgive me for not addressing each of you separately, and for not writing as much as you do!!

Let me just say, that low carb DOES WORK! It works for weight loss and it works for suppressing cravings. I was once on a plan where I had one "starchy carb" (i.e. baked potato, brown rice) every other day. That works really well because you still get your carbs, which keeps you from getting too tired and gets that seratonin (or whatever happy chemical) flowing in your brain. Just make sure they are not processed or white carbs. Also, keep in mind that veggies and fruits are carbs, and you need lots of those (though not fruit that is real sugary) regardless of the diet plan.

The plan I am on now calls for NO starches or grains for the first 2 weeks. I already went to the movies 2x and had popcorn (no butter). Since I rarely go to the movies, I figured it was okay, especially since the nutritionist said I could have 2 meals a week of whatever I wanted...so popcorn was it! BTW, I LOVED "It's Complicated"

Lamb, thank you so very much for the c25k info and for giving me the inspiration to go to the gym. I did not go to the 8:15 class, but I did get on the treadmill for 30 min for a walk/run. I was so proud of myself...so thank YOU!!! Since it was not so bad, I will aim to go for the next 5 days.

I'm looking forward to starting the New Year with all of you...I'm feeling so inspired and pumped up with all your positive energy. Thank you.
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