[shellerooskie]

I am finding that some days, I have a hard time reaching my goal target of 29Points Plus. I understand that 29 is a "target" but some days I am getting 20 PP because I am eating more fruits and veggies. Are some of you also experiencing this?

[fitbyforty]

Are you getting in all your good health guidelines?

[shellerooskie]

Yep- I am doing really good in my guidelines. I use the etools and also make sure that I am checking off my dairy, veggies, etc boxes to make sure I am staying in the guidelines.

[Koshka]

Yes, I am having trouble meeting my 29 points. I have had a few days where I am really low. Part of it is that I haven't been eating out much. I am lately getting closer to 29 points eating some of the snacks and stuff that is healthy but a little bit higher points (nuts for example).

[seagirl]

29 points plus fruit are about 1200 calories, so if you are only eating 20 points, you might only be eating about 800-1000 calories per day.

Check your portion sizes and enter your foods into something like sparkpeople for a day or 2 to see if you are getting adequate calories.

Missing 1/3 of your points for the day is something to look at, as the plan is designed for you to meet them.

Changing to full fat dairy, eating egg yolks instead of just whites, eating nuts or nut butters during the day and adding things like avocado are a good way to increase points.

If you post some sample days, you might get some good feedback too.

[shellerooskie]

Thanks! I am going to enter my food into both the WW site and sparks people to also check my calories. I never thought of double checking myself.

On the old plan I was really doing well. We switched over to the Points Plus Plan and I have been eating more fruits in addition to keeping about everything else the same. I have been getting really full on this new plan.

Adding nuts and changing from egg whites to regular eggs should definately help.

[harobed]

Seagirl -how did you determine 29 points is about 1200 calories? Even with the formula change, I don't see it being that much different from the previous formula and while I haven't done a spreadsheet up yet, I'm fairly sure that the 29 points is closer to the 1400-1600 calorie range.

[thinner]

i dunno. i know i've double counted some days and come up with 1000-1400 with no fruit. someone somewhere said that ww figured you would eat about 200 cal per day in fruit. and ww posts somewhere that the plan is based on 1200 cals a day. for an "average" woman? dunno. and they expect you to eat your weekly points, about 7 extra a day. so the minimum they would expect you to eat per day are the 36 points. however many calories that is. i've seen people ballpark it as one point is anywhere from 35-50 calories. so that could be 1260-1800, plus fruit?

i just know that i have to keep my total calories to about 1600 or i wont lose even exercising most days of the week. i've had fewer calories almost every day on ww. i lost the first two and a half weeks but now gained .4 pound back, though i did eat more and miss one day workout this past week. and, one day i didn't even eat all my points! it's possible that my body has already plateaued from the calorie restriction the past three weeks, eeeeeks

[thinner]

i'm with the others who say they don't understand what happens when you are eating the 'minimum' 29 points and then you lose and stilllll eat the same 29 points? that i don't get. i'm not sure that the plan has been around long enough to have enough known results from doing that. supposedly they've been testing it for a few years and people lost on it. i know other people who say they are losing on the new plan and are not hungry. well i've been extremely hungry. lost for awhile but not this week. so, i'll see.

[Koshka]

Seagirl -how did you determine 29 points is about 1200 calories? Even with the formula change, I don't see it being that much different from the previous formula and while I haven't done a spreadsheet up yet, I'm fairly sure that the 29 points is closer to the 1400-1600 calorie range.

Not really.

Well I personally keep track of my points and record all my calories eaten.

For the last 3 weeks below is shown total calories eaten (includes zero point fruits and veggies), points eaten, and calories per point (by dividing points into the total calories so this calories per point includes the fruits and veggies that I ate). Average calories per point was 40.81.

1000-24-41.7
1130-27-41.9
1160-25-46.4
1370-32-42.8
977-26-37.6
1043-26-40.1
1171-28-41.8
980-25-39.2
1040-22-47.3
1130-30-37.7
1150-30-38.3
1041-26-40
1100-29-37.9
1195-30-39.8
1171-29-40.4
1120-29-39.7
1110-27-41.1
1150-29-39.7
1000-24-41.7
894-21-42.6
1095-27-40.6

On the days that I ate exactly 29 points, I ate 1150, 1120, 1171, and 1100
calories. My highest calorie day was 1370 calories which was 32 points.

I will say that I eat way more veggies than fruit. I'm not a big fruit eater and can't stand bananas. So most of my zero point veggies/fruit is for very low calorie veggies. I eat salads, for example. For someone who eats a lot of the higher calorie fruit then their calories per point could be higher.

Thinner -- as you can see eating 29 points is about 1150 to 1200 calories depending on what you eat. I think they believe that it wouldn't be good to reduce the minimum much below that. I've averaged about 1100 calories a day and I haven't been hungry but I don't think I would want to go much below that on a regular basis.

Also while you can eat your 49 points a week I don't think they necessarily expect that you will eat all of them every week. They do say that you can lose doing that but common sense says that if you do you will lose more slowly. Since I gave up eating all my weekly points I've lost much faster.

[harobed]

Thanks for doing the math - I'm surprised by it, and will try and keep a running total myself for a bit - I had always ball-parked it based on the "divide by 50" for points, without really taking the other stuff into account as the fat/fiber would mostly balance things out.

In the old days, when I dieted strictly by calories, I did about 1,000 a day. That was before I even knew to watch fats, etc.

But even in those oldest days I would write down everything I ate - and I laugh because I've been dieting / watching enough years that I still know the calories for just about any "real" food. (Although not its nutritional break-down / make-up.)

[Mrs Mom]

Hello, I have had the same problem. I just started back this week and our family life has been busy, not getting home until after 9. I don't feel like eating much then. I don't know enough about the points of different foods to venture to the concession stand yet. Cereal, greek yogurt, bananas and peanut butter were my go to food for the week nights. Overall, I am pretty satisfied, I just hope it works!

[Robin]

I would think that being 9 points under is not good. The points figure in the fact that you will also be eating fruits and veggies. Are you eating enough carbs? I am allowed 33 daily points and I usually eat all of them, but that is probably due to my snacks. Sometimes my snacks are those quaker mini rice cakes or blue corn chips for 4 points, so maybe just add in one more snack like that...one that isn't fruit.