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paris81 11-15-2009 08:49 AM

Trying to wrap my head around "naturally thin people"
 
Lately I've been thinking about how I just don't understand how everyone isn't overweight (I guess I mean in countries like the US, where food is overly abundant). I look around as I go through my day, and I just don't get it. Why doesn't everyone at the coffee shop have a fatty latte and a big yummy muffin or cookie? Why wouldn't you buy 3 bags of Christmas candy that seem to have taken over the stores and eat them all? You can! No one is stopping you! And the possibilities go on and on...

I just don't get it. I have to fight the urge to buy and eat so many different things, constantly. I'm always thinking about it, and I'm always faced with a new food possibility, and telling myself no all the time is so difficult. I just don't get how those who aren't overweight think!

Any thoughts? Any "normal weight" people behavior that baffles you?

bargoo 11-15-2009 09:06 AM

And what about those people who eat half a sandwich and turn down a piece of pie and if they do happen to get some candy, keep it for months. That is just the way they are. Not me , put a bag of candy in front of me and I will eat it. Or did, that is the reason I have to diet. We all have different metabolisms. Mine likes food, especially if it is sweet, cake, cookies , pies, ice cream, now that is my idea of the basic food groups !

paris81 11-15-2009 09:09 AM

Yes! Keeping the candy for months! I never understood those people who say things like "I think I have a bag of chips around here somewhere..." Because if there was a bag of chips in my house, it would either be full because I just bought it, or empty and in the trash!

Bargoo, you said we all have different metabolisms...do you think that plays a role? It's all so weird!

Mikayla 11-15-2009 09:11 AM

I have a cousin who doesn't eat cake on his Birthday because he "doesn't like sweets" He been that way since he was very young. So it really is just the way he's wired.

platformnine 11-15-2009 09:33 AM

I don't get people with perfect metabolisms who can eat all of the junk and not have any consequences. Case in point, my best friend - she hardly eats breakfast (much to my chagrin), eats something like a funnel cake or wings for lunch, and will have pasta for dinner. Whaaaaaat?

CanadianCutie 11-15-2009 09:42 AM

I think the whole nature vs. nurture thing comes into play here. So many of us grew up with unhealthy attitudes from our parents towards food, and that feeds into our choices and our control. Remember, everyone has vices, be it food, alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, shopping, the list goes on and on. It is good to remember too that just because someone is naturally thin does not mean that they are healthy.

It may be mean, but I always think it is sweet justice when someone who eats badly and never gains weight all of a sudden packs on the pounds. Hmmm, I guess I should qualify that. People who have done that who tend to make comments that losing weight is easy, "just eat less, etc"

ubergirl 11-15-2009 10:13 AM

I sometimes marvel at how different my attitudes are toward food and alcohol. I can take or leave alcohol-- if offered a drink I may take it and forget to finish it. I seem to know just when to say when if, for example, wine is being served with dinner. I know that for an alcholic those things woud be a daily struggle. For me, it's food.

JayEll 11-15-2009 10:44 AM

My partner is a naturally slim person. She has never had to diet, and her weight, although it's gone up since she was 20, just always stays right around 130.

I have watched how she eats. She seems to have a different attitude toward food than I do. Yes, she eats whatever she wants--but she doesn't eat past being full. I have seen her stop eating with half the food that was put on the plate still there. Also, she eats really slowly--no shoveling the food in. And when she does eat "treat foods" like ice cream, she usually orders a small cup. Not a cone, not a double or a triple. The reason isn't that she's "watching her weight," it's because that's all she wants... Get it? :dunno:

Jay

Lyn2007 11-15-2009 11:06 AM

The weirdest thing has happened to me over time as I changed my eating habits. When I go to a resuatrant or make lunch at home, I am one of those who order half a sandwich, or say no thanks to pie. I always order a small whatever, I often cut portions in half. Instead of 13 crackers because it is a serving, I take 6. And it is because that is all I want. Not deprivation, just realizing that a smaller amount is satisfying, or a piece of pie is not that great. In fact I have had a box of my favorite candy in my cupboard for a couple of months. I forget about it. I have had one piece but don't really think about it or care about the rest.

And I was always a person who, if there was a scrap of chocolate in the house, it was GONE. If there was a chip, I ate it. If I COULD have something, I had it. And now it is not just about weight. It is about a different mindset. So just know, it is possible to change the way we think and feel about food (although I admit it has taken me a very long time to get to this point, where it is no longer a battle daily).

JustBeckyV 11-15-2009 12:30 PM

It still amazes me as well. I do try to mimic those as well -- sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. It's a total mental game. I am hoping that same day like those I will be able to not worry so much about eating but eat yanno what I mean? Just be able to consume the food and not have it totally consume me.

dragonwoman64 11-15-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ubergirl (Post 3012946)
I sometimes marvel at how different my attitudes are toward food and alcohol. I can take or leave alcohol-- if offered a drink I may take it and forget to finish it. I seem to know just when to say when if, for example, wine is being served with dinner. I know that for an alcholic those things woud be a daily struggle. For me, it's food.

that's funny you put it this way, my parents had a liquor cabinet filled with bottles they got as gifts that stayed unopened for years on end. they just weren't big drinkers, maybe a screw driver on new years, or a beer or glass of wine at dinner or with friends.

food? forget it, my dad, though he never was really fat, could pack it away, and ate so fast you'd barely be able to see his hands moving (he is over 6 feet tall and a big guy, not fat though). in our house, if you had a dish of food at the beginning of the meal, it would be empty at the end. we didn't believe in not cleaning a plate (it wasn't uncommong to go back for seconds, then clean that).

it has taken me a lot of work to get my mind to the "that's all I want" point. and I screw that up sometimes too.

kaplods 11-15-2009 01:19 PM

My brother and I were each adopted as infants (we're not biologically related to each other, either) and our eating/weight habits are very different than our adoptive family. In our family, my dad has been thin and active all of his life (with a humming-bird metabolism due to the activity I'm guessing). After he retired he started getting some middle-aged spread (he started to look pregnant), which he lost fairly easily, once he stopped his cookie and icecream binges (he's a guy who all of his life, considered a dozen cookies or a pint of icecream a serving. It didn't catch up with him until he retired).

My mom (like her mom) started gaining weight in her mid to late 20's, the vast majority on her hips. She continues to struggle, and her weight tends to fluctuate between obese and overweight (she was morbidly obese for many years - but barely so).

One sister favors my dad. The only weight problem she's ever had, is after her third son, and even so she was only a pound or two over Weight Watcher's minimum weight for her height. She lost the pregnancy weight within three months. She's thin, active, and seems to be naturally so.

My other sister favors my mom, and started gaining weight in her mid 20's. She's more diligent, but she struggles to maintain a healthy weight. She's never been obese, but struggles between a healthy weight and overweight. Most of her weight is also in her hips and legs, like mom.

My brother has always been slender and extremely athletic. He went into the navy at 17. When he started training to be a navy seal (they let him go through all of the training, before telling him that he didn't qualify because of his eyesight) he started bulking up, and gaining weight (all muscle). Now that he's on disability after returning from Iraq he's gained a bit more, but still none of it looks like fat (he says it is). He's gone from the low end of a healthy weight to the high end of a healthy weight. He just has gone from lanky to "buff" - from basketball player to football player.

I started gaining weight at 5 years old, and was morbidly obese by the end of kindergarten, and super morbidly obese by junior high. I only approached a healthy weight once in my life (in highschool on prescription amphetemines).


We were all raised in the same family. I tend to believe there's a stronger genetic component than most people realize.

I'm not (as many people claim when genetics are mentioned) using it as an "excuse" to remain fat. If anything, realizing that there may be a genetic component has made me more willing to put in the extra effort - knowing that I'm not crazy or lazy - I really do have to work harder than some people (just as there are people who will have to work harder than I will).

UrthWurm 11-15-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bargoo (Post 3012875)
And what about those people who eat half a sandwich and turn down a piece of pie!

Haha, this comment made me :o. I'm guilty of eating half a sandwich (I get full very easily I've noticed now that I'm more aware of what I'm eating). The guilt part comes in when I eat that half a sandwich, am stuffed, and then someone offers me a sweet I can't resist. :D I normally eat it. I've been working on turning it down though. I can now usually equate eating goodies when I'm full with feeling sick. *thumbs up to that slow realization*


nelie 11-15-2009 01:40 PM

Honestly, the bags of candy don't tempt me and I'd say I rarely bought a bag of candy even when I had no inhibitions toward food. Once in a while, I'd buy some reeses peanut butter cups if they were on sale but that was it.

I've also never bought a cookie or muffin at a coffee shop. For some reason, that never tempted me. That doesn't mean I wouldn't get something insanely caloric as I used to really like frappuccinos but the thought of buying a sweet never occurred to me.

I also never understood the attraction of fast food places. Even as a child, I thought they were horrid (although I did use to love taco bell bean burritos). I figured people were desperate for something quick if they ate fast food and not something people did purposefully.

So I think we are all different, fat or thin. The thin either have crazy metabolisms or their brains keep them in check somehow. I have neither :)

Aclai4067 11-15-2009 02:07 PM

When I hear the term "naturally thin" I don't think of people who are thin because they naturally make good choices, I think of the people (whom I knew a number of in high school, but it seems very rare past age 20) who eat large portions of unhealthy food and don't gain weight. My sister is totally one of those keeps a bag of candy for months people, but I don't consider her naturally thin. If she eats badly, she does gain weight. But she doesn't struggle like I do to make the right choices and she eats much smaller portions than I do.

The interesting thing though is that the confusion goes both ways. While I don't understand why making the right choices is so easy for her, she doesn't understand why it's so hard for me. She has one of those go, go, go personalities; she's never been depressed. I've tried to explain to her how sometimes it's like you just can't make yourself do anything even if you want to. That idea was beyond her. She has had to lose weight before (like 15-20 lbs), so she knows that it doesn't just come off. She knows it isn't quick or easy. But when she wants to do something, she just commits and does it. She doesn't understand why other people aren't the same way.


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