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		<title>By: moonfairy</title>
		<link>http://www.3fatchicks.com/diet-blogs/kelly/2009/06/24/huge-vent-maybe-some-bad-language-but-have-to-write/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>moonfairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kel, you vent all you want.  it's perfectly OK.  i have a pretty bad potty mouth but i hold back on this site b/c i don't want anyone to think about how rude i can be.  it's refreshing to hear someone else vent!

as for DS...did you check the computer for any chat msgs from him telling his friend that "u suck"?  LOL. 

as for the boss...EXACTLY!  when did i become my boss' slave?  feeding, cleaning up after, taking to the vet, arranging for adoption for his cat?  when did i become his gf's slave?  book airline, book hotel...but it has to be f-ing hotel in italy where a bloody nun stayed at before the age of dawn.  like, seriously?  come on!  you should shove a pretzel in your boss' mouth.  LMAO.  i'm crazy, i know.

as for the kids...i agree.  mine ask for stuff all the time and i just say nope, i don't have the money.  you'll have to wait until pay day.  but ask them to buy an ice-cream from their little stash...they seem to forget that they have money b/c we give it to them otherwise they'd have nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kel, you vent all you want.  it&#8217;s perfectly OK.  i have a pretty bad potty mouth but i hold back on this site b/c i don&#8217;t want anyone to think about how rude i can be.  it&#8217;s refreshing to hear someone else vent!</p>
<p>as for DS&#8230;did you check the computer for any chat msgs from him telling his friend that &#8220;u suck&#8221;?  LOL. </p>
<p>as for the boss&#8230;EXACTLY!  when did i become my boss&#8217; slave?  feeding, cleaning up after, taking to the vet, arranging for adoption for his cat?  when did i become his gf&#8217;s slave?  book airline, book hotel&#8230;but it has to be f-ing hotel in italy where a bloody nun stayed at before the age of dawn.  like, seriously?  come on!  you should shove a pretzel in your boss&#8217; mouth.  LMAO.  i&#8217;m crazy, i know.</p>
<p>as for the kids&#8230;i agree.  mine ask for stuff all the time and i just say nope, i don&#8217;t have the money.  you&#8217;ll have to wait until pay day.  but ask them to buy an ice-cream from their little stash&#8230;they seem to forget that they have money b/c we give it to them otherwise they&#8217;d have nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some point your kids will learn they have a wonderful parent and a stable household - a lot more than other kids might have.  Not unusual t be self-absorbed as a kid (I know I was, and still am, LOL), so hopefully the realization comes as they mature.  

Sorry your boss is a jacka$$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point your kids will learn they have a wonderful parent and a stable household - a lot more than other kids might have.  Not unusual t be self-absorbed as a kid (I know I was, and still am, LOL), so hopefully the realization comes as they mature.  </p>
<p>Sorry your boss is a jacka$$.</p>
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		<title>By: majestichollyhock</title>
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		<dc:creator>majestichollyhock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Kota. I agree, with realizing "mistakes" in the past and then moving forward. it is all life school.

HUGS Kel. Hope today is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Kota. I agree, with realizing &#8220;mistakes&#8221; in the past and then moving forward. it is all life school.</p>
<p>HUGS Kel. Hope today is better.</p>
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		<title>By: loosingme</title>
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		<dc:creator>loosingme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Vicki's comment, and ya, she said what I said, but better.  12 to 18 is hard, no doubt.  It might help to get a book about teenagers and the way they think....my mom got me one when I was going through a real rough patch with dd, and it helped....but I am sure, NOT having another parent to bounce this stuff off of, or stand by you, makes it that much harder.  I feel sorry for my mom having to go through it alone....but it can be done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Vicki&#8217;s comment, and ya, she said what I said, but better.  12 to 18 is hard, no doubt.  It might help to get a book about teenagers and the way they think&#8230;.my mom got me one when I was going through a real rough patch with dd, and it helped&#8230;.but I am sure, NOT having another parent to bounce this stuff off of, or stand by you, makes it that much harder.  I feel sorry for my mom having to go through it alone&#8230;.but it can be done!</p>
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		<title>By: loosingme</title>
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		<dc:creator>loosingme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awe  HUGS!  You simply cannot make a teenager ( cause ya, he is there) understand the value of money by words.  One day, he will get it.  But even my best kid, the saver, the one who I always thought understood things cost money and sometimes you  have to wait and save up and the difference between WANTS and NEEDS....has seemed on occasion to forget this.  Teens have a "I want it now attitude to life",  an "i am entitled to get what i want" attitude and that is just how their brains are wired.   

sorry about the boss stuff.  Ya, that sucks.  Crappy place to have to be in!!  

hugs, hugs and more hugs!  Your baby is growing up.  Welcome to the wonderful world of hormonal changes!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awe  HUGS!  You simply cannot make a teenager ( cause ya, he is there) understand the value of money by words.  One day, he will get it.  But even my best kid, the saver, the one who I always thought understood things cost money and sometimes you  have to wait and save up and the difference between WANTS and NEEDS&#8230;.has seemed on occasion to forget this.  Teens have a &#8220;I want it now attitude to life&#8221;,  an &#8220;i am entitled to get what i want&#8221; attitude and that is just how their brains are wired.   </p>
<p>sorry about the boss stuff.  Ya, that sucks.  Crappy place to have to be in!!  </p>
<p>hugs, hugs and more hugs!  Your baby is growing up.  Welcome to the wonderful world of hormonal changes!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: TawnyaInControl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TawnyaInControl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha... I remember leaving posts that I thought maybe I shouldn't have in the past! The first time around, I vented so much about my sick dysfunctional upbringing. Looking back, I realize THAT'S WHY I WAS FAT! It's all one huge process. Glad I did it/do it.

Chemical dependencies screw belief systems up big time. Chemically dependent family systems are more common than not. You are SO NOT alone--great idea to vent about it.  I think writing is neat aid to our processing--we think a little more about our words. It's nice here at 3fc that you can get feedback and e-hugs! :)

*hugs*  =D
Tawnya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230; I remember leaving posts that I thought maybe I shouldn&#8217;t have in the past! The first time around, I vented so much about my sick dysfunctional upbringing. Looking back, I realize THAT&#8217;S WHY I WAS FAT! It&#8217;s all one huge process. Glad I did it/do it.</p>
<p>Chemical dependencies screw belief systems up big time. Chemically dependent family systems are more common than not. You are SO NOT alone&#8211;great idea to vent about it.  I think writing is neat aid to our processing&#8211;we think a little more about our words. It&#8217;s nice here at 3fc that you can get feedback and e-hugs! <img src='http://www.3fatchicks.com/diet-blogs/kelly/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*hugs*  =D<br />
Tawnya</p>
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		<title>By: kotapaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>kotapaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as if my post wasn't long enough, Congratulations for venting rather than eating.  Profanity has no calories, so have at it if it helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as if my post wasn&#8217;t long enough, Congratulations for venting rather than eating.  Profanity has no calories, so have at it if it helps!</p>
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		<title>By: kotapaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>kotapaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((hugs)))  I've got a few things in common with your upbringing and have much empathy.  Like you, I have tried to be the best mom I can be and my kids want really for nothing.  It is VERY HARD IMHO to teach kids to be appreciative and to know the value of a dollar.  It was my biggest struggle raising kids in, what I consider, affluence.  We aren't rich.  We work a lot.  But we have a lot I think.  Ages 12 to 18 was tough.  The gimme this and gimme that was tough to battle--often they didn't want to help/work at all.  Just acted as if they were entitled because we Had It, so they should Have It.  Hang in There.  Most of all, don't take their ungratefulness too personally.  Totally normal for adolescents to be self-centered...and they are masters at pushing our buttons...ever since they learned to coo and pump their little fists and feet at mom while she was leaning over the crib...!  :)  TV and the Gimme Culture is also tough to battle.  Land of Plenty...Best Buy, The Mall, ETC.!!!  

I made chore lists for my kids and I caught crap from them about it off and on for years..."We're slaves"..."ALL we do is WORK"... Etc.  They are very good at using words like NEVER, ALWAYS, FOREVER, etc. along with much eye rolling, hair flipping, dirty looks, etc.  The kind of behavior you just want to slap into next week...but you hold back.  And decide to withhold privileges and luxuries.  Sigh.  It is a constant battle.

However, it does pay off in the end.  DD thanks me quite often for teaching her well, making her work, handling money, etc.  

I think when the kids were 12, I made them work 1/2 hour to 1 hour after school and four hours on Saturday or Sunday--depending on their extracurriculars and homework load.  They were paid.  And so began the managing $, buying stuff lessons...  "Is such and such worth four hours of your time working?"  Etc.  

And LT, my daughter says that she is ashamed for her poor behaviors in her "youth".  I tell her not to be ashamed for realizing her behavior was ungrateful, but to be proud that she now knows the difference.  I tell her I didn't expect to parent without pain anymore than I expected birth to be without pain.  It is what it is.  (But Kelly, some days you want to pound their butts into the ground and slap the smirk off their faces...!)  

One of my favorite lines Kel was to tell the kids, "Hey, you didn't come with an owner's manual.  I'm doing the best I can.  If you don't like the job I did when you are a finished product, feel free to raise your kids however you want..."  LOL  Probably didn't make a pinch of difference, but it made me feel better....

As for the boss.  What a turd.  You are the GO TO gal, the fixer, the doer, so he picks up the phone and calls the person who gets the job done...even if the job isn't yours to do...it's a back handed compliement.  However, hope you are able to set some boundaries so he doesn't abuse your good nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((hugs)))  I&#8217;ve got a few things in common with your upbringing and have much empathy.  Like you, I have tried to be the best mom I can be and my kids want really for nothing.  It is VERY HARD IMHO to teach kids to be appreciative and to know the value of a dollar.  It was my biggest struggle raising kids in, what I consider, affluence.  We aren&#8217;t rich.  We work a lot.  But we have a lot I think.  Ages 12 to 18 was tough.  The gimme this and gimme that was tough to battle&#8211;often they didn&#8217;t want to help/work at all.  Just acted as if they were entitled because we Had It, so they should Have It.  Hang in There.  Most of all, don&#8217;t take their ungratefulness too personally.  Totally normal for adolescents to be self-centered&#8230;and they are masters at pushing our buttons&#8230;ever since they learned to coo and pump their little fists and feet at mom while she was leaning over the crib&#8230;!  <img src='http://www.3fatchicks.com/diet-blogs/kelly/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  TV and the Gimme Culture is also tough to battle.  Land of Plenty&#8230;Best Buy, The Mall, ETC.!!!  </p>
<p>I made chore lists for my kids and I caught crap from them about it off and on for years&#8230;&#8221;We&#8217;re slaves&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;ALL we do is WORK&#8221;&#8230; Etc.  They are very good at using words like NEVER, ALWAYS, FOREVER, etc. along with much eye rolling, hair flipping, dirty looks, etc.  The kind of behavior you just want to slap into next week&#8230;but you hold back.  And decide to withhold privileges and luxuries.  Sigh.  It is a constant battle.</p>
<p>However, it does pay off in the end.  DD thanks me quite often for teaching her well, making her work, handling money, etc.  </p>
<p>I think when the kids were 12, I made them work 1/2 hour to 1 hour after school and four hours on Saturday or Sunday&#8211;depending on their extracurriculars and homework load.  They were paid.  And so began the managing $, buying stuff lessons&#8230;  &#8220;Is such and such worth four hours of your time working?&#8221;  Etc.  </p>
<p>And LT, my daughter says that she is ashamed for her poor behaviors in her &#8220;youth&#8221;.  I tell her not to be ashamed for realizing her behavior was ungrateful, but to be proud that she now knows the difference.  I tell her I didn&#8217;t expect to parent without pain anymore than I expected birth to be without pain.  It is what it is.  (But Kelly, some days you want to pound their butts into the ground and slap the smirk off their faces&#8230;!)  </p>
<p>One of my favorite lines Kel was to tell the kids, &#8220;Hey, you didn&#8217;t come with an owner&#8217;s manual.  I&#8217;m doing the best I can.  If you don&#8217;t like the job I did when you are a finished product, feel free to raise your kids however you want&#8230;&#8221;  LOL  Probably didn&#8217;t make a pinch of difference, but it made me feel better&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the boss.  What a turd.  You are the GO TO gal, the fixer, the doer, so he picks up the phone and calls the person who gets the job done&#8230;even if the job isn&#8217;t yours to do&#8230;it&#8217;s a back handed compliement.  However, hope you are able to set some boundaries so he doesn&#8217;t abuse your good nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for your support ladies.  I came back thinking maybe I will delete this, I bitched too much about my past ... but then I thought, ehhh, may as well leave it.  It is part of who I am and what made me ME.

Went to gym, completed W2D1 C25K and my weights.  Drinking 3rd bottle of water now.  Coloring hair.  All is okay.

Hugs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for your support ladies.  I came back thinking maybe I will delete this, I bitched too much about my past &#8230; but then I thought, ehhh, may as well leave it.  It is part of who I am and what made me ME.</p>
<p>Went to gym, completed W2D1 C25K and my weights.  Drinking 3rd bottle of water now.  Coloring hair.  All is okay.</p>
<p>Hugs!</p>
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		<title>By: majestichollyhock</title>
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		<dc:creator>majestichollyhock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))

Glad you could let it out here!!</description>
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<p>Glad you could let it out here!!</p>
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