For the sake of Gerechtigkeit…
18Nov2008 Filed under: General Author: iconisedghosti must report a splurge lats night. Well, i was hungry when i came home from training and so i tried to have a cup of tea and a biscuit since i was close to the limit calorie wise already. But that didnt work, so i figured if i was hungry then i should eat something. So i had some toast. Which lead to cheese, chocolate, crackers, and biscuits >.< Ouch. Well, today is a new day so i am moving on. I also start my new job today, yay! Time to work my way out of that overdraft 
sterling
November 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
It happens, hope you enjoyed it and had a good day today. Is a biscuit a biscuit or a sweet cookie in NZ? Good to move on, no need to dwell.
Cool on the job! Money is good sometimes.
sterling
November 18th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
If a biscuit is a cookie what is a biscuit? A cookie?
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 2:13 am
you confuse me with your biscuit biscuit business! Isnt a biscuit just a small cookie technically? Here biscuits include ginger nuts, short bread, hobnobs, most things biscuit-like that will fit in your tea. I guess if its too big to fit in your tea is more likely to be a cookie. Like, a cookie-time cookie is a cookie, not a biscuit. Is it the same where you are? Does that even make sense? I mean, you can refer to crackers as biscuits cant you, but here thats far less commonly used. Biscuits are almost always sweet here. I dont think ive heard any kiwi refer to crackers as biscuits.
Money is always good >..< Ah well, its better than nothing. At least it stops me binging!
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 2:15 am
what the dickens, it cut out part of my last sentence. It should read:
money is always good, but since i am just an xmas casual on minimum wage its going to take a while to eat into that over draft.
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 9:08 am
A biscuit here is a sort of bread, served warm, like a dinner roll - the difference is that you don’ use yeast to make it rise, but baking soda. It’s not sweet in the least. When my mom would make them at home she’d use a water glass to cut them (so about 2 inches across) and they rise about an inch and a half.
Biscuits are commonly eaten with breakfast, jam and butter, and greasy dinners like fried chicken. http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/ProductImages/bakerymix/Biscuit1.jpg
Cookies are all cookies, sweet little things.
Interesting!
So you dunk cookies/biscuits in your tea? Here, cookies are usually dunked in a glass of milk. The only tea I drink is iced.
Also, must be an American thing, cookies are usually pretty large and sweet, even store bought cookies. Big and soft, like the size of a saucer. Smaller cookies, like the ones I suspect you’re describing (never had a gingernut or hobnob) are usually homebaked and given in a tin at Christmas. Hard cookies, like biscotti, are less popular but commonly served at coffee shops to dunk in coffee.
Well, well, this has been interesting!
I never knew biscuits and cookies were so complicated.
So, do you guys eat our version of biscuits?
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Are kiwi fruits still kiwi fruits in NZ?
LOL, I’m just having fun with you!
iconisedghost
November 19th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
no in NZ we cal them chinese gooseberries
just kidding, they’re kiwi fruits. Although interestingly we refer to them less often as just “kiwis” than i think people in the US do. Hmmmm
Your “biscuits” look a bit like scones (do you have scones in the US??). We have scones….but i dont think i’ve ever heard of someone making “biscuits” the way you described…
You’ve never had a gingernut!! :O Oh my god they are the best things ever. 39 calories a pop and if you dip them in your tea then your tea tastes spicy when you drink it. Hobnobs are more British but we can get them here, they’re like a digestive biscuit/cookie. Biscotti is probably the same here, you would only have that served at a coffee shop or restaurant.
We have this cookie shop here in the city…whats it called, im sure its american based…Mrs. Someone’s cookies and those are what i would consider cookies, really big soft almost chewy things.
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I have never had a scone. It sounds fancy, yet crumbly yumbly. The photos I searched look like a biscuit, but seem to have dried fruit or something in them. So are scones sweet?
Back to biscuits… here in the Midwest US, a popular breakfast dish is biscuits and gravy. Mmmm, sausage gravy poured over a biscuit, delightful. What do kiwis like yourself do with scones? Dunk them into tea?
I want a gingernut. I will look into this, find myself a recipe. Try this cookie out.
I don’t know why I love this conversation so much. It tickles me thoroughly.
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I want to add, that when I make the gingernut cookies and eat them that it will be your doing. The first cookies of the year for me, YES!
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
i think the pictures you found are scones then…. You have gravy for breakfast?? Wow that sounds really odd! Are your biscuits kind of like a denser yorkshire pudding then?
Haha i laughed outloud at dunking scones in tea
Scones are like hard, dense muffins sort of, so it would be odd to dunk them in tea 
They can be sweet or savoury- you could have date scones, and have them with whipped cream or butter etc, or you can have cheese scones which you probably wouldnt have with whipped cream 
maybe this link will help, it has a recipe for scones maybe that will help clear it up (the page it has on kiwi slang is good for a laugh too 
)
http://www.jos.co.nz/particularly-kiwi-kiwiana-scones.htm
this site here has examples and descriptions of “kiwi” biscuits
http://productsfromnz.com/browse_3164
You must try a ginger nut! They are quite hard, so be careful when baking that they dont become too hard otherwise they’ll be inedible unless you soak them in tea for ages.
If you are super keen, im sure there are stores in the US that sell kiwi food stuffs. There is in britain i know, and im pretty sure that there is in LA so i dont see why there shouldnt be. Of course, sampling biscuits isnt going to be excessively good for your weight loss
This whole conversation cracks me up. Wait, do you have pavlovas over there??
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
What the hell (I tried typing *uck but my comment was rejected) is a pavola? (sorry, i had my first margarita of the year tonite)
Biscuits are utterly unlike scones then - an American biscuit is served warm and is soft yummy salty goodness. Yes, unhealthy Americans have sausage gravy (pork innards mixed with flour and butter ((cow juices))) for breakfast.
What the hell is a yorkshit pudding (tried *uck again, sorry, margarita speaking again)? Pudding here is sweet and made of gelatin and milk (HORSE MARROW OR SOMETHING) (oops, caps).
What’s a centimeter (referring to recipe for scones, just kidding, there’s Celsius measurements on the reverse of our rulers)? Like a fingernail’s breadth? And Celsius? My god, there’s certainly an ocean between us!
I am going to make gingernuts and gorge myself on them. Screw this weight loss business, it’s dull. (Just kidding, margarita again, but I will partake of gingernuts)
I don’t think NZ food is sold around here. All I know of NZ is what I gleaned from the novel The Thornbird (great stuff, where she does the priest) and the movie The Piano (which was decent too) which I believe was filmed there. Everything, I imagine, is lovely green. Sadly, NZ is not known much in my part of the world - Illinois, US. We’re a stupid cornfed inbred people.
LA is like thousands and thousands of miles away. Zillions. I would have to ride multiple planes for many hours.
Agh, I don’t think I’ll blog tonite. I’m fawking incoherent practically.
And see, you thought I was the reborn Mother Theresa of diets.
But - BUT - I stayed within my calorie range. So my halo is just bent, 6 margaritas or not.
Margaritas are healthy, hell yeah! All that vitamin C.
Do you have margaritas there?
This convo makes me so happy I checked in on it while tipsy
:)
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
You can see this fat girl LOVES food. Fawking LOVES food! ‘Specially when drinking margaritas.
Sidenote - it is so hard to go to a Mexican restaurant and eat soup. SOUP. I saved my calories for limey, sweety, alcoholy drinks.
PS- I will hate these posts tomorrow, so delete them, will ya?
sterling
November 19th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I am totally laughing at myself. I can only hope you find me as amusing. I am my biggest fan (as my friends and fam like to say).
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
6 margaritas
lol, that explains the colour of your post
A pavlova is like a big meringue cake thing, covered in whipped cream and fruit. Contrary to the belief of Australians, it did originate in New Zealand (damn Aussies, stealing our sh*t). If you google image search for “kiwi pavlova” you’ll see what i mean. its kind of light and fluffy and you can eat heaps of it without getting full
Sausage gravy is pork innards mixed with flour and butter?? I was imaging it being like instant gravy but that had some kind of sausage flavour! Ok, American breakfast foods are seriously weird
Lol “oops caps”
pudding here is usually sweet (although we refer to “dessert” as “pudding” sometimes, dunno if you do) but a yorkshire pudding is like a little savory thing you can soak up gravy with. You usually have it with a roast. Its made from some kind of batter, and is infinately hard to get to rise.
An inch is 2.5 centimeters i think. You have celcius measurements on your rulers? Over here, we use thermometers for measuring temperatures
I dunno if everything here is stunning green, but quite a lot is. F*cking garden, one warm spring rain and everything goes nuts. Except the plants you want to grow, they rot in the warmth and the wet and die. Of course. I suppose your part of the world would not have much need to know of NZ. Other than its tasty goodness.
Yes we have margaritas here
We even distill our own vodka :O Its called 42 Below, can you get it in the US? It was supposed to be quite a famous brand, but theres famous and then theres FAMOUS of course.
If i was tipsy, i would definately check this convo
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
i am laughing my ass off, seriously
what the hell? Soup? Are you serious, i didnt even know mexicans made soup
Iconised Ghost
November 19th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
hey do you watch flight of the concords? can you even get it where you are?
sterling
November 20th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Oh no! I meant centimeters on the rulers! How stupid of me. ;(
No, I have never heard of this pavola thingy until now. It doesn’t look appealing to be honest (and I try my best to be open minded). It appears to be sort of a meringue/ cream pie thing? Ours are typically banana or lemon flavored. But you can get full easily off of ours as it’s made from 40% heavy whipping cream.
So, a yorkshire pudding is savory? I’ve always wondered. That’s pretty much what I imagined from my readings of Charles Dickens, as the dreary orphans always eat it with mutton. The only ‘off’ puddings we have here are bread puddings, but the smooth and creamy milk based puddings are what generally comes to mind.
Yeah, from what little I’ve learned (?), NZ is humid and green.
I have never heard of 42 Below. Huh. I like vodka quite a lot. My brands of choice have always been Grey Goose, Ketel One and Skye - in that order. Dirty martinis up.
Yes, soup! A tomato based soup with cilantro and shrimp. Leaves quite a few calories for drinking. Margaritas here - I prefer on the rocks (iced) with salt.
Flight of the Concords? No, never heard of. But remember, I am culturally retarded and don’t participate much in popular culture.
sterling
November 20th, 2008 at 12:05 am
PS - A real and genuine Mexican woman served me that soup
sterling
November 20th, 2008 at 12:06 am
PPS: I only ate 1/4 of it to ‘conserve my calories’ for the pitcher of margarita goodness.
sterling
November 20th, 2008 at 12:09 am
PPPS: A lot of people like margaritas blended with ice, sort of a smoothie. On the rocks makes it so much smoother and easier to drink. Do you guys use the term ‘on the rocks’?
US FYI - a Cadillac margarita is made with all premium liquor. Standard is made with well (generic) alcohol. I drank well margaritas - the economy and all, pinched wallet.
Iconised Ghost
November 20th, 2008 at 12:11 am
oh that makes more sense, i was wondering what kind of strange measurement system this was, measuring heat with rulers, or lengths with degrees…
I guess its kinda like a meringue/cream pie thing…but not really. Its like…you have little meringues right? Little blobs? Its like a giant one of those with cream on the outside. Its very light, not at all dense like a lemon meringue pie or anything.
Yup yorkshire puddings are savory. Funny, i always thought bread puddings were made out of offal, like the bread basket or something! Unless its like a bread and butter pudding? Which ive only had once in Australia so it may not be representative. But it was nice.
NZ is pretty humid and green…apart from when its snowing and white >.< i guess we have a lot of different kinds of areas that look different. Christchurch is very pretty, looks very English-ish, Milford Sound is very green and lush and humid, Queenstown gets the snow etc. Depends how far south you go probably as to how green it is
Hmmm maybe they meant 42 below was world famous in NZ
Personally, i prefer daquaris (sp??) and of course, shots. Failing that, rum is always the drink of choice for me
Flight of the concords was a kiwi made comedy programme about 2 kiwi guys who form a 2 person band and go to the US to make it big. They made a pretty good go of it, but personally i think their live stuff was better. One of my ultimate favourites is their song Hiphopopotamus vs. Rhymenoceros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s&feature=related Dunno if it appeals to an american sense of humour, but you never know. It tickles me
Iconised Ghost
November 20th, 2008 at 12:13 am
how do you know she was genuine? Maybe she just wears a lot of tanning moisturiser
I know what you mean about drinking on a budget- who cares whether its standard or high quality, ur just going to throw it up later anyway 
Iconised Ghost
November 20th, 2008 at 12:15 am
“jenny” and “she’s so hot BOOM” by flight of the concords are also some of my favs
Iconised Ghost
November 20th, 2008 at 12:15 am
folk parody! thats what they are
sterling
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 pm
My husband and his brother are in complete love with Flight of the Conchords I’ve just found out. Seems it is on HBO. I don’t often watch television with him - I had no clue!
I could better get into it if it weren’t filmed live (did a cursory check through the other videos, didn’t have a ton of time). Laughing people distract me from humor, odd I know. All I end up hearing is the laughter.
Iconised Ghost
November 24th, 2008 at 1:02 am
they have a show that isnt live, i didnt find it as funny as theier live stuff personally though. How weird that the laughter distracts you! Do you go to live comedy shows then?
sterling
November 24th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Oh god, no way. I’ve never been to a comedy show. That laughter skeeves me out. I never laugh at the appropriate times either, get the giggles at the stupidest things. What a cold, cold person I am, shying away from hugs and crowds of people laughing
My sense of humor is off. Really off. I can’t think of a comedian I find amusing. I’ll think on this - I’m sure there’s SOMEBODY I’d go see. Will report back in.
Iconised Ghost
November 24th, 2008 at 1:43 am
I hate laughing at inappropriate places, especially when you go to the movies, and its supposed to be very serious. For some reason, a lot of people taking something seriously at the same time is hilarious
there must be someone that makes you laugh! What about Billy Connolly?
sterling
November 26th, 2008 at 2:01 am
WHO is Billy Connolly? Am I missing something great???? I’ll check him out.
I have laughed out loud at books by Augusten Burroughs. That’s all I can think of so far.
I’m so pitiful.
Iconised Ghost
November 26th, 2008 at 3:28 am
:O I cant believe you just asked who Billy Connolly is! Go youtube him!!
I think ive heard of Augusten Burroughs, but i havent read anything by him…